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iOS 10 was released to the general public in the middle of September, and while months have passed, no jailbreak has yet surfaced for Apple’s latest mobile operating system.

Whether or not a jailbreak is coming continues to rattle the minds of hobbyists and tweak developers alike, but with all the rumors buzzing around and all these software updates seemingly launching left and right, will another jailbreak actually see the light?

Jailbreaking in history

Ever since the jailbreaking scene was outsourced to teams like Pangu and TaiG, jailbreaks have been far more secretive and launch dates haven’t really been set in stone. The last time I remember hearing an ETA for a jailbreak release was back when the evad3rs were still jailbreaking iOS.

Pangu and TaiG each seem to like surprising the jailbreak community, as they appear to launch jailbreaks on completely random dates based on when they feel the best time to release a jailbreak is.

With no rhyme or reason to their methods, at least from our point of view, it’s hard to put a pin on the calendar for when a jailbreak should be expected, but so far they haven’t let the community down, which means they’ve got a lot going for them.

Jailbreaking now

Without a doubt, the jailbreak community is shrinking. The body of people who jailbreak today is significantly smaller than it was years ago, and that would be because Apple is finally bringing a lot of features over to iOS that should have been there from the start.

Although no feature Apple brings to the table will ever truly make your device as free and modifiable as jailbreaking will, a larger number of average users have been convinced that they don’t need to jailbreak anymore.

With fewer users, the jailbreak is becoming less profitable, and many talented hackers are more attracted to profitable bounties on their valuable exploits rather than working on building a jailbreak. This doesn’t stop a few inspirational teams from coming through time and time again, however.

The last jailbreak launch was for iOS 9.3.3 and was released thanks to Pangu, but within a couple of weeks Apple launched iOS 9.3.4 to patch the exploits; this dealt a checkmate to the long sought after jailbreak.

Today, Apple continues to launch frequent software updates that patch security vulnerabilities and exploits, some expected, and some unexpected. These rapid software update releases are making it harder for jailbreak teams like Pangu or TaiG to come up with a jailbreak that encompasses all of Apple’s latest firmware releases, which is the ideal goal of any jailbreak team to ensure as many people can benefit from the release as possible.

Pangu could hypothetically have a jailbreak for iOS 10 right now, however releasing it now would be futile as Apple may have patched it in iOS 10.1 or could already be in the middle of breaking it in the upcoming iOS 10.2 release.

Unfortunately, there’s no way to tell until iOS 10.2 goes public, and by then, many people will have already updated to iOS 10.2, so releasing an iOS 10-10.1 jailbreak would be seemingly pointless to Pangu.

Is a jailbreak still feasible?

Without a doubt, iOS 10 can be jailbroken. A number of hackers, with the most notable being Luca Todesco, have demonstrated the feasibility of jailbreaking iOS 10 despite Apple’s KPP (kernel patch protection) software that was supposed to put an end to jailbreaking.

Since we know it’s possible to get around Apple’s KPP security, it’s hardly doubtful that a jailbreak could be released in the future for iOS 10, but picking the right time to launch is a very important part of the whole process.

Pangu did once express their interest in jailbreaking iOS 10, but because they operate behind closed doors, there are no real-time status updates about the progress of a current jailbreak nor is there any word of when or if they are planning to launch one.

Users are also putting a lot of pressure on jailbreak teams because they’re not very big fans of the semi-untethered jailbreak. Users want an untethered jailbreak so there’s no headache in rebooting their devices, but software constraints and exploit limitations have tied many hands.

The wait affects everybody

Not only are the jailbreak teams feeling the hurt by Apple’s swift way of keeping the jailbreak down, but so are the Cydia repositories, jailbreak developers, and the jailbreak hobbyists.

The Cydia repositories are important to mention because they’re the driving force behind the Cydia store. Although a jailbreak is so much more than just installing jailbreak tweaks, it goes without saying they’re are one of the main sources of enjoyment out of it.

Since a jailbreak hasn’t been released for quite a while, Cydia repositories are hurting. They’re not getting a whole lot of traffic and the amount of ad-driven revenue for them is going down.

Jailbreak developers are another of the important driving forces affected by the lack of a recent jailbreak. Since a lot of higher profile developers have already left the community to move on to bigger and better things where they can earn more of a profit, Cydia has largely become a place for beginner developers to start their programming portfolio.

As you can imagine, this means a decline in releases of higher-quality jailbreak tweaks, like those of IntelliScreenX, MyWi, etc. All of these were premium tweaks at the time, but Apple has pretty much phased them out with features of their own, and without those higher-profile developers in the scene anymore, highly-original jailbreak tweak ideas are just super hard to come by these days.

Even beginner developers who are taking interest in learning development or utilizing the jailbreak as a means of making hobby income are feeling the burn because jailbreak tweak piracy is just so insanely high that it takes the motivation right out of the developers to do any work for the jailbreak community at all.

Overall, the troubles involving the developers and repositories cause a domino effect for the most important group of them all: the jailbreak hobbyists themselves. These are the people who jailbreak just for fun and like modding out their iOS devices.

Without a jailbreak, hobbyists are losing faith in the community and leaving it behind. There are still a number of loyal jailbreakers using iOS 9, and even some on iOS 8 or iOS 7, but most appear to be more interested in getting with the times and using iOS 10 on Apple’s latest iOS devices.

This decline in users is sucking dry the motivation of experienced developers to continue developing for the jailbreak community, despite the very small few who are still hanging on and updating their older projects.

But despite all declines, I don’t think it’s the end of the jailbreak community, just yet. Even if we don’t see a new release any time in the near future, those who are still jailbroken right now will probably keep what they have for the sake of enjoyment and will continue to do great things with it.

Will we see a jailbreak again?

It’s hard for me to deal an absolute answer to this question because I could so easily be right or I could so easily be wrong based on the pivotal facts I have to work with, but I think we will probably see some sort of jailbreak again in the future.

Following the advice of iOS hacker Todesco, you can increase your odds of having a jailbreak in the future by staying on iOS 10.1.1, rather than updating to iOS 10.2.

Although it seems bleak for the jailbreak community and it might not be around forever, there still seems to be a strong base of interest from true hobbyists who like modding their devices with themes and other cool stuff.

In addition, jailbreak teams aren’t solely interested in providing Cydia to jailbreakers. There’s a whole ring of jailbreak users in China that use the jailbreak for other purposes that we don’t want any hand in, and that’s piracy.

The PP alternative app store you’ve seen bundled in with so many of these jailbreaks in the past is used for this, and because there’s demand for this kind of service in certain parts of the world, supply and demand rules it will be made.

It’s sad to think that one of the things keeping the jailbreak going is something as dark as piracy, but fortunately there’s always a way to opt out of having the PP alternative app store installed on your device when you do jailbreak with any of these tools, as we always advise you do.

What’s your take on this? Share in the comments below!

  • Osama Hamdy El-Sharnoby

    Apple need to step up their game, make their software a bit more flexible and customizable, learn from the brilliant ideas found in the jailbreak community and then we won’t need jailbreak anymore!

    • Sohail Wahab

      Even if Apple brings every jailbreak tweak and whatever as a feature, they won’t give us the apps on the AppStore for free. I need jailbreak to get the ridiculously high priced 200$ and 100$ apps that I need as a medical student for free. That’s what I want. Besides, there is always something missing with the new iOS. We need the Cydia anyways

      • Poporopo00

        As a developer i can tell you that you don’t understand the amount of work neede for those apps.

        Pay for them!

        That is not the purpose of the Jailbreak.

      • Diego Milano

        Totally agreed. I like the fact both AppStore and Cydia paid tweaks are very affordable. Here, I do agree that if you can spend USD 800 – USD 1200 on an iOS device (you name it), spending a couple more bucks in jailbreak tweaks or even apps from the AppStore is something you can afford.
        I’m very happy on iOS 9.3.3, honestly; and also iOS 10 doesn’t bring in a lot into the picture.

      • Straightshoota

        I don’t use jailbreak for pirating just for a few small customization items. And UI changes. But IMO  made it easier for people to pirate apps when it added side loading and certificate loading. Now with that any idiot with a mac can sign and install an app for use. I always thought that was more backwards thinking than giving the user more root access to the actual hardware which is truly what jailbreak was born from.

      • Matt Perkins

        He understands, he just doesnt care. He’s prolly one of those people who torrent paid software instead of paying for them. Yet he doesn’t seem to understand the actual dangers of downloading cracked apps on iOS. There isn’t AntiVirus on iOS like there is on Windows. So if he gets malware, he won’t have a way to remove it. He is better off with Android which actually offers AntiVirus. And unfortunately most jailbreak to download cracked apps/games. I jailbreak now mainly for themes.

      • Skyline83

        Yes there is a way to remove a virus from iOS! Just have it restored it only takes 5 to 10 minutes to have things put back if you had it backed up! Cheers!

      • Scott Curry

        This guy has obviously never factory resetrestored an iPhone before. 5-10 minutes…lmao. Sure pal.

      • Skyline83

        Are you suggesting it takes more? Case I restored hundreds of times and never took longer then that and that’s even with the back up.

      • Scott Curry

        No suggesting anything. I’m flat-out STATING that it takes longer. A full factory defaultrestore from back up takes 15 minutes MINIMUM. That is, unless, you have nothing in your backup that you’re restoring from…

        The only way you’re going to prove me wrong here is to post a video of you factory defaulting, then restoring your phone from backup with a stopwatch right next to it the whole time. Otherwise, GTFO of here with your lies and BS.

        Thanks, and have a happy new year Junior…

      • Skyline83

        I won’t be proving anything to an idiot. You’re not worth my time! You’re a spec of a freaking mosquito shit… You’ll just fade away and so will all your rude, pathetic comments while I will continue to restore all my iPhones in 10 minutes or less. Bye.

      • Scott Curry

        lol all I heard was…

        ‘Blah blah blah I can back up my statements blah blah blah’

        Nice try Sparky. You lose.

      • Skyline83

        Whatever keeps you from peeing in your pants at night… You’re too stupid to hear anything.! Now wipe that drool off your face and go back to sleep. Bye I said.

      • Scott Curry

        Didn’t you already concede? Now you can focus on growing a brain and when you finally grow that brain, teach it how facts work. (Hint: You need to be able to back them up with proof when making such outlandish claims.)

        😉

      • Skyline83

        Why should I take your opinion seriously? But would recommend trying mentioned above for yourself. It’s one thing to be giving people advice but living up to it yourself is the real deal.

      • SpideyRules

        Hello again Trolly McTrollerson 😉

      • Scott Curry

        So let me get this straight…

        You want a jailbreak so you can pirate? We don’t need your kind around here, and you can GTFO at anytime…

      • Diego Milano

        Haha, you really need to chill out for once, man.

      • Scott Curry

        Here’s a quote directly from his post:

        “I need jailbreak to get the ridiculously high priced 200$ and 100$ apps that I need as a medical student for free.”

        Still think he’s not trying to get pirated apps? 😛

      • Diego Milano

        Tsk, yeah, you might be right. I still believe that if people can afford such a pricey device, buying apps should be an option.
        I never used my jailbreak to gain access to pirated apps; honestly I don’t even know what repo hosts them.
        But instead of raging, we should encourage people to spend a few bucks instead of pushing them out of the community, otherwise they’ll bring the habit to other communities and that doesn’t fix the problem.

      • Skyline83

        Fu*k, just shut up! Are you the FBI or something if he wants to pirate, the fu*k, let him do so! It’s up to those who he pirates against to press charges not you!

      • Scott Curry

        Wow. Looks like I hit someone’s nerve…

      • Skyline83

        It’s his device and his life after all right?! I’m against pirating but that doesn’t mean I’m going to run around telling people how to live their life! If he wants to pirate let him pirate! lol I’ll pay for mine since I have a sense of decency! But we are all free! Unless they want to kill or rape someone – that’s different.

      • Scott Curry

        So let me get this straight. Some laws are ok to break but not others? That’s what you’re saying here, right? Theft is ok, rapemurder is not.

        Let me ask you this: How would you feel if you spent a couple of years developingbuilding a new car, then someone just steals it? I doubt you’d be thinking ‘well, at least he didn’t rape me’.

        You can’t sit there and say ‘I’m against pirating’ then defend the pirates.

      • Skyline83

        No they’re not ok to break but it’s none of your business what he does in his own time! And yes stealing software from a developer that chooses not to any anti-pirating code in it is different from committing murder and rape and caries different punishment all together! And like I said if developer of that software has an issue with him stealing then he can take him to the court of law but you are not a developer that he steals from snd neither you are an FBI so chill dude! I’m not even sure I’m talking to an adult here your comment really begin to piss me off. I don’t have anymore time for your stupidity!

      • Scott Curry

        ‘Chooses not to any (grammar incorrect) anti-pirating code…’? Really? You’re an expert on the specific app he’s pirating, even though he didn’t specify which ones they are? That’s amazing!

        Had he kept it private, you would be right. It wouldn’t be any of my business. However he came to a public forum and posted it publicly. That makes it the business of everyone here.

        YOU can condone piracy all you want, but some of us have morals and respect others.

        Thanks for playing!

      • Skyline83

        I don’t condone piracy and don’t know where you’re getting this but what I’m saying is you are not a developer and he is not stealing from you so wtf? You going to attack everyone who may be thinking of stealing? And yes I’m not an expert in building software but do know that things can be done where one installed a pirated software will have it useless do to the software calling home server and validating it with records on file or many other ways that can be implemented. It’s like knowing that someone can steal your car but still leaving it unlocked to make easier for them to steal.

      • Scott Curry

        It doesn’t matter if he’s not stealing from me directly. I’m not the type of person to sit idly by and watch a crime be committed and not speak up. Kinda have this strange tick called ‘humanity’ that I know isn’t very common, but I do suffer from it. It’s a burden.

        And yes, things can be done to TRY to prevent piracy, but NONE of it is an ironclad guarantee. If there was such a thing, do you think Microsoft, Apple, Symantec, Paramount, Sony, Warner Bros, etc., etc. would still get cracked and pirated?

        No matter what preventative measures are put in place, someone some where will find a way to bypass them. But you want to blame the developer for not being diligent enough? Are you also the type of person that blames the rape victim for dressing like heshe wants it? That’s what you’re doing here. You’re defending the offensive party while blaming the offended party.

        Even if I leave my car unlocked, with the keys sitting on the hood, it’s still the thief’s fault for stealing it. It would be stupid on my part, but it’s STILL the fault of the person breaking the law.

      • Skyline83

        Humanity lol the f**k?! You’re as far from it as that guy is from actually stealing something and saying you watching him steal something is just a laughable matter! The only thing you and everyone else is watching right now is your own stupidity!

      • Scott Curry

        You got me here. Your response is so incoherent that I can’t reply with anything…

        https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4db5d8889309d179dc6c90f09d945af8f6d119fc0551ac48c3d4995c34e394a7.jpg

      • Skyline83

        You can’t reply anything cause it makes too much sense but you are too ignorant to accept it!

      • Skyline83

        You going to call yourself stupid for leaving your car keys on the hood but you can’t call developers stupid for leaving the software wide-open for hackers to get? Well I can and will. That doesn’t mean stealing is right but not taking measures to prevent it isn’t either!

      • Scott Curry

        Again…how do you know the developer left it wide open? What information do you have to backup that claim?

      • Skyline83

        If he’s able to get it on Cydia and use it without being detected then it’s wide open! It’s that simple.

      • Scott Curry

        That’s is such an idiotic response and has no merit whatsoever. I can get Windows and use it without being detected. Does that mean it is also wide open??

      • Skyline83

        Idiotic response – your opinion so no big deal. Can you get windows? I don’t know probably not but if you won’t let off this shit of jumping people’s comments with your disrespectful replies then a hemorrhoid is what you will get for sure! Relax dude, go get a life! I don’t have anymore time for your stupid sh*t! Bye!

      • Scott Curry

        I see you can’t answer a simple question regarding your horrible logic.

        You’re as bad as the pirates for condoning and defending their action. You, sir, are a gutless coward that blames victims for not protecting themselves against the evils of the world.

        That’s just pathetic and sad…and I pity you.

        Bye Felicia.

      • Skyline83

        Yeah Yeah Yeah! Blah Blah Blah!

      • Diego Milano

        Dude, why did you spend so much time replying to this guy? Just check his profile, the level of his responses are the same across the entire Disqus platform. He takes it up on everybody, everyday, every time. Don’t waste your time.

      • Scott Curry

        I was bored…lol

      • Diego Milano

        Hahaha!

      • Mark S

        You don’t NEED free apps. If you can afford to go to medical school you can afford apps. Otherwise get a job and pay for them or have the parents pay for them.

      • Elias Chao

        I don’t understand people who buys ~$800 phones and they don’t want to pay even a dollar for apps.

        Because of people like you, others think iOS jailbreak is all about piracy. Shame on you.

      • Micke på taket

        Wtf , pay for your apps you cheap Charlie MF..

      • Matt Perkins

        If you’re looking to get paid apps for free, you’re better off with Android rather than iOS. Not only does jailbreaking destroy the sandboxing used to protect users from malware, but there’s also no AntiVirus for iOS. So downloading cracked apps can install malware and you won’t even know it’s on your device. Android might be less secure but it’s better for those who refuse to pay for apps/games considering it has AntiVirus. Jailbreaking is best for those who are looking to add functionality to their devices and whom stick with the default repos that come with Cydia.

    • Scott Curry

      I think a lot of the point of this article is that Apple IS stepping up their game, but not the game you want. They’re stepping up their OS security. If you don’t like the software, go try an Android device. Otherwise, take it for what it is and stop complaining.

      • Diego Milano

        Relax, he isn’t complaining here, rather just making a point which I believe is the same most of us using a jailbreak have.
        The reason why we still stick to iPhone and iOS is the same reason why we are not willing to move to Android, especially after we keep reading how unstable, insecure (there was an attack this week), and low-performing it can be in comparison to iOS.
        Flexibility and customization has nothing to do with security, that is what he’s pointing out; it’s a well-valid and well-motivated opinion, rather than a complaint.

      • Scott Curry

        Flexibility and customization absolutely have to be considered when it comes to security. Case in point: Remember when you could embed malicious code in JPG’s? (You still can.) So how would you feel if someone embedded malicious code into a theme, such as the icons or the background picture? What I’ve found to be the case is that most users, while heralding iOS’s level of security, also want to drop that level lower just so they can have a custom icon or font…

      • Diego Milano

        Haha, that’s true, it is indeed a bit hilarious. Jailbreak does decrease the level of security in your device, although it also depends on what you do with it and what tweaks or libraries you have installed.
        I would say Apple can still exercise a better level of customization without compromising security, if and only if they do it the right way. But that being said, iOS will always be iOS, that is what makes it the most efficient and highly-performing system in the market (mobile-wise).

      • YaBoyLilMayo

        Hold this L

      • Scott Curry

        What does that even mean??

      • White Michael Jackson

        Dont bring that worldstar ish here lil nigga.

      • YaBoyLilMayo

        Bruh stay yo ass on ws I come here to escape u niggas

    • Charlie Collins

      If you’re after flexibility and customization go to Android. If you haven’t been able to figure out Apple does things it’s way and only it’s way, shame on you.

      • Osama Hamdy El-Sharnoby

        Take it easy pal!

  • Lordrootman

    Sabastian need to go vacation outside the country and we are going to have jaillbreak just stayed like a week or two

    • Diego Milano

      Why? You think iDB is the only blog out there which would release the news?

      • MMA Rules

        You didn’t understand what he said, what had happened in the past is that everytime Sebastien have been gone on vacation a jailbreak gets released

      • Diego Milano

        If he always goes on vacations around the same time of the year, yeah, it’s possible.
        I just hope when we get a jailbreak, that it supports iOS 10.2 and that it is at least semi-untethered (tethered jailbreaks are a no-go for me).

  • Rondog

    Actually if we got a jailbreak for 10.1.1, we DON’T need to update to 10.2, which I’ve already tried and I can DO MORE with a jailbreak on 10.1.1 than 10.2 So I really think that ( pardon my words ) if we’re dumb enough to update to 10.2 then it’s our own fault. A jailbreak is way BETTER if we like our devices the way we like them, and not the way apple wants us to have them. All we have to do is Lay Off 10.2, that is if there was a jailbreak for 10.1.1 of course. We know apple is screwing with us by coming up with all those betas, they just know that there’s a jailbreak out there just waiting to happen.

  • Lordrootman

    Quick question
    I’m on 9.0.1 6S+
    I recently upgrade to flex 3
    Since then when I restart my phone it shows keyboard but after entering password there’s no way to hit enter,go or return that side of keyboard is hiding
    Only way to get my full keyboard is in safe mode I try to uninstall a lot of tweaks and downgrade to flex 2 but still the same problem
    I just uninstall flex for now
    I need help

    • Digitalfeind

      Uninstall all versions of Flex. Download iCleaner and clear the cache of the iphone. If it is Flex do not download be careful of what patches you download and what you tweak yourself.

    • Lordrootman
      • Jayy

        I would try one of those tweaks that srinks the screen down for one handed use as a workaround. Try something like “OneHandWizard” just so you can press the (go, return, enter) key. I may not work, but it never hurts to give it a try.

  • Chris Chedrawi

    A very enjoyable read! I don’t think the jailbreak community is quite dead yet (or maybe because I still see some life in the related subreddits), but it would be nice to get an iOS 10 jb!

  • 7000rpm

    Nice

  • Skyline83

    iOS 10 needs a jailbreak more than any other version if iOS. I obsolutly hate it! All the shit they added to the messaging Is nothing but a cluster all those live images and other wiggles are pointless/childish just like apple itself is becoming! Whoever they have working on iOS should be fired! Removing slide to unlock is stupid especially when pressing a home button activates Siri since fingerprint doesn’t always work fast enough and having to hold it a bit longer sometimes activates Siri. It’s so annoying! I can just see me using a swipe to unlock tweak in future. And the issue with using Siri to call after you end a conversation and realize that you don’t just have a button to hang up but instead have to press at the top of the screen first and then it will finally bring the phone options which should’ve always been there. I can go on! Apple likes to f**k with us and block our right to downgrade own devices! How many other manufacturers you know that do that? Filthy rotten apple! They’ve changed so much from the early days! But yet I don’t k is why I still hold a 1,000 dollar iPhone 7plus In my hands?! Really getting tired waiting for a jailbreak! But that’s the only hope for this new iPhone 7 plus of mine, only chance to actually enjoy it!

    • Scott Curry

      Wow now THAT’S a rant. Question though…

      If you hate Apple so much, (to use your own vernacular) why the F**K do you own an iPhone?

      • Diego Milano

        I can see you really are spot-checking these type of bloggers based on all the messages I’ve read from you.
        I do agree that they’ve added a lot of junk and useless stuff to iMessage though, but I think what Apple is doing here is following the social trend from other messaging apps such as WhatsApp and Messenger, which curiously are both owned by Facebook.

      • Skyline83

        Because hardware and software are two different things, besides they did change iOS dramatically in the newest version! So if I didn’t purchase the latest iPhone, I would have a reason to complain but since I did spent over $1,000 on it by god I do have a right to voice my opinion! Peace.

      • Scott Curry

        You chose the phone. If your choice isn’t based on all factors, including both hardware AND software, then that’s your choice to make an ignorant decision. Sure the first amendment gives you the right to voice your opinion, but doesn’t make it automatically intelligent or though…

      • Skyline83

        The last thing I want to hear from you is on intelligence I would rather trust a monkey in that sphere than you so no worries there! Rather I make my decision on all factors or just one isn’t for you to judge especially due to the lack of intellect and human decency on your behalf. That’s one! Secondly, not like there is a better alternative out there so I have to base my choice on the most important factor in my opinion and sattle for the lesser of two issues! But there is nothing unintelligent in expressing my concerns in regards to the issues that very easily could’ve been resolved if per say there was a way to downgrade or simply customize to disable certain clusters in iOS 10. Third, my device will see more than just iOS 10 installed on it and with that said what guarantees you can give that Apple won’t fix the issues I’m having at this moment? You haven’t thought about that when you asked me why I made a decision based on just hardware factor did you? And you going to question my intelligence? Seriously? I mean it’s like if i work in a facility that isn’t insulated very well and I have an issue with being cold during winter months doesn’t mean that I would rather do my practices outside ether! Being an open minded human being I see issues and I voice my opinion cause if we keep or mouth shut we can’t expect anything to change! Think before you say something that makes zero sense!

      • Scott Curry

        Switch to decaf dude. Seriously.

        A. No where in my response did I insult your intelligence. I said ‘ignorant decision’. Ignorant means uninformed. Look it up.

        B. I said that your RANT was unintelligent. I said nothing about you as a person.

        However, with your reading comprehension being so sub-par, I am now…

      • Skyline83

        Who are you to tell me that I am making an ignorant decision? Wtf do you know?! This really does automatically make you very intelligent! Lol NOT! More like automatically stupid! And yes if I consider iPhone just based on hardware that itself does not constitute an “ignorant decision” in anyway! Because today it’s iOS 10 and it’s issues and tomorrow it’s iOS 11 improved but my hardware is still the same and hey at least it won’t explode next time I board a plane! “Ignorant decision” shut the f**k up!

      • Scott Curry

        Wtf do I know? I know what you ranted. It’s there. Just scroll up a bit. 😉

        You bought something based on having one part of it being superior. It’s the same as if you bought a car just because it had a better engine, but you hate the interior and the way it drives.

        I think that sums up ‘ignorance’ perfectly.

      • Skyline83

        Does it sum ignorance in anyway if there is not a better choice of car to buy and when you have to just settle for the lesser of two issues? Did I buy it for you? No and No! So shut the hell up! I made my decision based on what works best for me not you therefore you have no freaking reason to judge my decision! Ignorant or not! Jumping someone’s opinion or decision, without having any clue is nothing less then ignorance itself!

      • Scott Curry

        You senselessly ranted (and still are) and publicly posted your opinion. This makes it public fodder. I am on the Internet and can judge all I want, since YOU put it out there.

        But to use your own logic against you: Did you buy it for me? No. But did you state your opinion to me? Yup. Granting me the opportunity to judge, respond, etc as I see fit.

        If you made your decision for you, then congrats. Want to bitch about it? Be prepared to get called out for the idiocy of doing so.

      • Skyline83

        You call it a rant I call it an opinion and yes it is public and I guess if you’re an idiot then you going to start attacking people for their opinions and call it a rant but I don’t give a shit you’re not a decent individual based on your senseless replies so you can wack your head against the wall all you want and jump people for something they said but at the end you’re a disrespectful moron and that’s it!

    • Diego Milano

      Scott may have a valid point on what he’s saying though. I think at the end of the day, iOS is more than just iMessage and a home-screen.

      • Scott Curry

        Thanks Diego. It’s even better than I’m a recovering JB’er… 😛

        I just haven’t seen the need for it as much lately and I’ve been using iOS 10 without really missing it.

      • Diego Milano

        Damn lucky you!

      • Skyline83

        Scott may only have a valid pointless criticism but zero common sense! Read my reply above

      • Diego Milano

        I don’t think “valid” and “pointless” in the same sentence make much sense though. There is no such thing as common sense if you are judging an entire OS just by looking at their texting platform or their assistant, Apple doesn’t sell millions and millions of devices just because of these.
        In any case, this is an old post so I suggest you move on, people have the right to speak their mind, whether you like it or agree with it or not.

      • Skyline83

        Did I only mention messaging platform? Snd did I ever say it wasn’t right for everyone? No I didn’t! You people need to just shut the f*k up and move one just like you said! And stop jumping people for just expressing their opinions! Questioning my intelligence and decency based on my opinion on the iOS 10 is stupid as we all are different and do think differently about things but it doesn’t make someone stupid or unintelligent if they simply disagree on something! But Scott did attack me by calling me almost an idiot for my opinion which does not speak highly of him at all and for you to jump in and say sht like he has a valid point isn’t very cleaver ether! Because trust me I dint buy my iPhone 7 plus jusfor iOS 10 but also for many further versions of iOS which more then likely will changed and hopefully to my satisfaction. I really didn’t have issues with previous versions of iOS but even if I bought my new device solely to sort of test apple’s new mobile OS just to get my opinion out there, that does not constitute an unintelligence or idiocy just like it was expressed by Scott. Additionally If it’s an old post and doesn’t interest you anymore why bother replying to it! Valid, pointless does make sense if someone sarcastically pointing out one’s unprofessional commenting! You said valid point and I said valid pointless in regards to the whole comment it self! So chill.

      • Diego Milano

        I’m chilled, and your message is too long and full of pointless anger and rampaging, I don’t even have time to read this, sorry.

      • Skyline83

        I thought you said this was an old post and we should move on?! Did you change your mind or something? Bye! Have a nice day!

      • Diego Milano

        I think you’re aiming at me but I’m not Scott.

      • Skyline83
    • Ria1979

      In my experience Touch ID is too fast and slightly slower recognition would be welcome.

      • Diego Milano

        I thought there was a tweak to customize this?

      • Blip dude

        The thing is a tweak shouldn’t be necessary to slow down Touch ID’s responsiveness. The fact that I have to jailbreak just to be able to customize just one small detail in iOS is a fine example of a few people’s frustrations with Apple.

        I also find it so f****** stupid when others simply say stupid s*** like “go to Android if you don’t like it,” because clearly everyone has the desposible income to drop out of an ecosystem to another one (not targeting you, just generalizing).

      • Diego Milano

        I know you’re not targeting at me, don’t worry (and even if you die, it wouldn’t make any difference, so don’t worry

      • Diego Milano

        The thing is, I actually thought they had fixed this?

  • Eliijah Moss

    Jailbreaking is an “acquired taste.” I can’t stand when people use the word need. You do not need a jailbreak. Just like you do not need to complain about not having something when it was not yours to begin with. I can’t wait until jailbreaking stops. Hopefully it will wake up you ungrateful people.

    • Diego Milano

      As mentioned separately, there will always be a jailbreak available because that’s what hackers get satisfaction from, but the time it takes for every new jailbreak to appear may affect more those tweak developers than the hackers themselves.
      I agree that waiting for a jailbreak is beginning to turn into a self-imposed wait sentence that directly or indirectly keeps [some] users stuck in older iOS versions and THIS is what should be a concern to Apple because it means there are still some users out there with devices still exposed to security vulnerabilities.
      Just my thoughts on this. 🙂

      • Every iOS has security vulnerabilities. Remember, at some point those older ones were new and yet here they are with security holes.

      • Diego Milano

        That’s right, you said it yourself!

    • Boaz van Veen

      i NEED a jailbreak, or my cosplay costume has a function less(activator) or you can still say we dont NEED a jailbreak, but then again we do not need a smartphone either.

      • Eliijah Moss

        There are a lot of things in this world that we do not need. We have programmed into our brains the things that we want as things that we need. You do not NEED to make an over tech. costume either. You would like a costume that does not need activator to make it work.

  • Jason

    I have a question I have iOS 10.1 iPhone 7 plus. I’m cornering if I have to update to 10.1.1 as I’m aware of 10.2. Should I stick to 10.1 or 10.1.1? I wouldn’t know if Apple would stop signing 10.1 near future. So I wouldn’t be stuck. Any suggestion what firmware I should go to? Thanks!

    • I think you would be okay to update to iOS 10.1.1. Luca Todesco vouches for 10.1.1, so I’ll go with what he said!

      • Jason

        Thanks! Will do.

  • Franklin Alvarado

    I am currently on IOS8, would it be possible to update to 9.3.3 and jailbreak it?

    • Unfortunately, Apple stopped signing iOS 9.3.3, so there’s no way to get to it.

  • White Michael Jackson

    Im actually tired of jailbreaking. That said my iphone 6 is jailbroken on 9.0.2. My phone is fine. If a jailbreak does come out for ios 10 i wont bite. The tweaks i use are getting more useless as time goes on. The only one I can think of that useful is activator

    • Diego Milano

      When I got my iPhone it was running the same version you are as well; as soon as I could upgrade to iOS 9.3.3, I rushed; I don’t regret it, it’s much better from a performance standpoint as well as stability, but I agree it’s not a deal-breaker.

    • Andy Akins

      I’d be cool with leaving Jailbreak if they brought activator & SBprofiles to iOS. I can’t believe a system that was on Nokia phones [Profiles] doesn’t exist naturally on iOS. I don’t want to trigger a bunch of toggles just because I went home or got in my car. Also, my home button just went out.. without activator my phone would be done for and I would need to fork out a bunch of money for repair. Screw that.

  • Dasy Bao

    I confess that the Jailbreak is dying.

    Antony Bouchard, do you have a way of contacting Luca Todesco, to explain him he’s the onliest to stop the death of the jailbreak by helping jailbreakers teams?

    Of course jailbreaking is not allways a question of piracy
    I have been Jailbreak fan since IOS 5.0.2 because of iFile, the app that Apple will never copy.

    I helped to set up the Tor installation for IOS 9 Jailbreak. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/960f4372eca6c4dce7f8609ddb67eb5275753108de75792c844d75b613e4f3c8.png

    I hope there is sometime a usable jailbreak. I don’t believe in Santa Claus. Only in the Jailbreak.
    I keep my fingers crossed

    • Diego Milano

      In Pangu we trust. Amen.

  • h4rr33

    How about the fact that any new JB will only be for 64 bit devices? That’s not worth mentioning ? That’s are more 32bit iOS devices in the world.

    • Diego Milano

      Hmm, 32-bit devices take up more in numbers than 64-bit devices? Well, even if that were the case, it’s time to upgrade. When it comes to iOS devices, it’s definitely not a good idea to stick to old devices, simply because the newer app versions being released eat up a lot of RAM and CPU and some won’t even run on older devices.

      • h4rr33

        Sure, tell that to Apple who is selling refurb iPhone4, etc. in India, etc. Point is there are more 32bit iOS in the world. They don’t just magically disappear after every new iPhone which has sold less than any of those 32bit iterations.

      • Diego Milano

        They sell refurbished iPhone 4 in India for a valid reason, but to keep old devices alive. What was said above is still valid as it isn’t recommended to stick to old devices for multiple reasons I can elaborate (although it goes without saying).
        Also, historically there have always been more 32-bit devices in the world because 64-bit devices have only been around for a few years, so it just needs time to catch up and overcome the number, otherwise no math can add up. 🙂
        Truth is, if you have a 32-bit device and you don’t get your jailbreak for your device, you know what you gotta do, deal with it.

    • Blip dude

      Uhh, you’re statement isn’t correct but lets look at it from a different angle, how many of those 32-bit devices are on iOS 9 & 10??

      Once you actually realize how many 32-bit devices can’t run iOS 9 & 10 you’ll realize why 32-bit devices isn’t a priority. Besides the iPhone 5, iPad 4 & mini, what devices are running iOS 9 & 10.

    • 32-bit iOS devices aren’t being made anymore. It’s kind of pointless to beat that dead horse in my honest opinion.

    • Scott Curry

      No it’s not worth mentioning, because you can’t sit there and bitch about not getting the newest jailbreak on the newest iOS and still be sitting on 3-year-old technology.

      • h4rr33

        The world is run by decades old technology, age of the tech doesn’t matter. Its how many more people can benefit from a JB. Only companies benefit from selling new models not the end user with perfectly good devices.

      • Scott Curry

        That last sentence is the dumbing statement on the forums to date…

      • h4rr33

        Nice grammar. And this is not a forum. So many retards allowed in front of computers nowadays.

      • h4rr33

        Hmm so you’re a mod or something. Figures with all the deleted posts. Perhaps you would want to edit that “dumbing statement on the forums to date” line…

        Also planned obsolescence is a real thing, you don’t need to buy yearly upgrades of the same device. Like my iPad3 is still perfectly fine, might not be as light and fast as my Air2 but it can do everything it can. To dismiss a majority of devices because they’re older is just plain idiotic.

      • Scott Curry

        A mod or something? No. Just someone with common sense. No clue what your ‘deleted posts’ comment means. And thank you, I fixed the autocorrect error.

        You sure your iPad3 can do everything your Air2 can do? Everything? Can your iPad 3 take 8MP pictures? Does your iPad 3 take HDR photos? Can it record at 120 fps?

        Damn you people REALLY need to use facts when debating. You just make yourself look dumber and dumber when publicly proven wrong…

  • M_Hawke

    A jailbreak needs to come sooner than later. The problem is that older phones are being retired by users because of hardware failure, upgrading, etc. and when buying a new phone, the newest iOS is on it so they can’t jailbreak. Also, with each new iOS, many apps abandon supporting the old OS so you are left to choose to either upgrade the OS so that you can have the latest rev of your favorite app or stick with your older jailbroken iOS to keep your jb but stuck with an older version of your favorite app.

    • Diego Milano

      That’s exactly why I expounded the reason behind why a jailbreak for 32-bit devices may no longer be an option. But also, because developing a jailbreak presents difficulties between 32-bit and 64-bit and many people seem to ignore this and they think it is just a compatibility issue.

  • Neal Honickman

    Your article is very interesting. But how do you know how many people want to jailbreak and actually do.
    I love a good jailbreak and look forward to just a few of the tweaks that are just amazing. I think you would be surprised the number of people that still jailbreak.
    Without true statistics making statements like that are unfortunate and miss leading.

    • Diego Milano

      It would be nice to get some approximate numbers. In the past, I remember that someone had shared the amount of downloads for jailbreaks ramped up to millions, but I dunno if there are such reports or stats available anymore.
      Many people claim that jailbroken devices are really low in number but I strongly disagree; it is true that the number may no longer be as high as it used to be for many reasons we have been seeing with the last few iOS iterations, but I am sure the number is still high. And even if it isn’t, I can’t care less, cause I only care about my own device, to be honest.

      • Neal Honickman

        I agree. I just want virtual home tweak back

    • Hi Neal, while I don’t have physical figures to go by, a person who does had a lot of influence in what I had to say in this post. For example, I talk to Optimo of the BigBoss repository a lot, and he continually tells me the information I included in this post about the reduction of users over time. Sure, you might see a lot of people who jailbreak still, but the amount who still do is not the same as it was 3-4 years ago.

      • Neal Honickman

        Thanks Anthony. I am sure there a less jail breakers but a little more positive slant would have felt better. Sorry. I do appreciate hard work and your article

      • Thank you Neal, the jailbreak community is a great thing, and despite what Apple is doing in their cat and mouse game, I’m sure it will live in on for a bit longer!

  • Neal Honickman

    Also, I personally don’t update my software on iOS 10 if there is a chance it could affect my ability to jailbreak in the future. I wait for comments from people in the community as I’m sure many who are interested in jailbreaking.
    We don’t just rush to update the average individual may not jailbreak or route their product but those who are interested in those things paying attention to what’s out there

  • Jere Chino

    Jailbreak is dead as…dead.

  • Jayy

    I see a lot of people in the comments saying jailbreaking is dead. I’ve been jailbreaking since iOS 4, I’m on iOS 9.0.2 my phone runs perfectly fine, and I have no need to update to iOS 10 unless there is an untethered jailbreak. I will not go from a untethered jailbreak to some semi-unthethered b.s. Anyways I love my fully unthethered Jailbroken iPhone and that will not change.

    • Skyline83

      Easy for you to say then but some of us have iPhones that we had no chance to have iOS 9.0.2 installed…

      • Jayy

        Trust me I know what it’s like to wait for a jailbreak I’ve been jailbreaking since iOS 4.

  • Gabriel Schwartz

    KODI is probably the main reason I am waiting for JB on my Apple TV 4!

    • Scott Werner

      you can side load KODI on the apple tv 4

      • Gabriel Schwartz

        Yes but unless you’re paying $99 a year for developer subscription the sideload will work only for 7 days.
        With developer subscription it will work for 1 year.
        With JB it’s free for life.
        Also you need OS X for this.

      • Gabriel Schwartz

        Yes for one week unless you pay $99 for developer subscription and then you get one year.

      • Gabriel Schwartz

        Only for 7 days unless you pay $99 for developer license and then you get 1 year.

  • Altinakis George

    Just find the opportunity to say my opinion on jailbreak.
    Unfortunately there won’t be many, out any at the future. The reason?
    Money.
    I explain.
    Every hacker team that finds exploits in iOS is negotiating for money directly with Apple.
    In the past, jailbreak was made and Apple was chasing these teams. But now she find a new, better way to deal with it. See gives them money.
    That’s why everybody in my opinion, announces nowadays that he managed to jailbreak ios etc etc. The want Apple to be aware of this hacker jailbreak so they can them communicate and sell the exploits.
    It’s obvious to me now. Even the old, big hacker teams are doing the same thing.
    But Apple is really stupid. Very stupid.
    Instead of having a separate Theme Store, for icon, animation, transition, font tweaking, officially through Appstore which can be very easy and will give them tons of fresh money they close their eyes in despair. It’s so damn stupid all this.
    Tweaks like, Cylinder, Barrel, springtomizer and hundreds other could be officially supported I Appstore’s Theme Store.
    And would be a dream to use them.
    Ending I find very difficult newer version of jailbreak due to the above reasons.

  • Ron

    When iOS 10.2 is released, will there be a signing window for 10.1.1?

    • Blip dude

      Yeah, but the time that Window will remain open is a mystery.

    • It will probably only be open for a week or so, but Apple has been known to be tricky in the past, so it’s not worth gambling.

    • Skyline83

      Yes but I wouldn’t count on it for more then a week

  • meir cohen

    Iphone. Too much jailbreaks. To much updates. Too much BS. too much problems to fix and fix and fix it’s seems it’s last forever. The most expensive device with the most problems.
    SENT FROM MY AMZING GALAXY S7 EDGE.

    • Scott Curry

      So ‘AMZING’ that it can’t fix your bad spelling…

  • Guy

    Message App in iOS 10 has its own store. It’s time for Apple to make theme store. With custom fronts, icons, gestures, etc.

  • Eliijah Moss

    Im not sure what their motive is. They could either be doing it for attention, or doing it to troll. Either way, it is rude. Not annoying, frustrating, or irritating, but rude.

  • h4nd0fg0d

    Honestly some of the most pathetic jb discussions in the history of iDB.

  • Trevor

    I just really wish there were jailbreaks like the old days (pre-iOS 9) I hate to see a good thing die. I also hate it only
    Being held together by
    Illicit activity. The same way the war on drugs causes a spike in drug-related crimes, the war on jailbreak is going to cause a spike in illegal hacking activity. #pleasesavejailbreak

  • Damon Dassing

    I’m sitting on a brand new iPhone 7+ waiting for a jailbreak.
    If one doesn’t come, I guess I’ll trade it in for a Galaxy or a Pixel.
    Both of which have been rooted.
    Without jailbreak, iPhone is just another phone.

  • Ron

    I’m conflicted. I’m jailbroken on 9.0.2 and want to go to 10.1.1 before the signing window closes. But if a jailbreak doesn’t come out for 10.1.1 and I lose my jailbreak permanently, I’m screwed because I’ll have lost the jailbreak apps that I rely on (Remote Messages and PDANet). I wish I had just a peek into the minds of the jailbreak developers to know if something is really coming for 10.1.1…