Everything you need to know about the iPhone 5s and iPhone 5c

By , Sep 10, 2013

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Well, that’s all folks. The highly anticipated iPhone event has come, and gone. All announcements have been made, all software has been released, and Apple has shown us the future of its smartphone line.

A lot has happened in the last 12 hours, and we understand that it might have been difficult to keep track of it all. So we’ve put together this awesome roundup of everything important that happened today…

iPhone 5s

Touch ID success

iPhone 5c

iPhone 5c (family, gree, blue, yellow, red, white)

iOS 7

ios 7 promo

Other stuff to check out

And that should just about do it. We would like to thank you for choosing to hang out with us today, and we hope you had as much fun as we did. Make sure you stay tuned to iDB throughout the coming weeks as we continue our coverage on iOS 7 and the new iPhones.

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  • onebyone_

    Meanwhile in Samsung’s Laboratories: —«get out all eight-core 32bit processor for the new Galaxy S5, delay the launch of the next event and invent or stole some new 64bit processors and update to quadcore!!!»

    • ClaudieX X

      thats not a joke… thats totally true… believe me

    • rasengan720 .

      you’ve got a point now android will have 64 bit hardware as well but of course it will be samsung to first do it for sure :D

    • Vitaliy Anonymous

      32bit or 64bit processors are a standard. Android had dual core processors on their phones before Apple had any. Then they had 1GB RAM and Apple added too. Just because it is a standard doesn’t mean that Apple was copying.

      • Wamid

        Dual core means nothing.
        It’s not about how many.. It’s about how fast.

      • Julio Cesar

        And about how the OS itself can manage this.
        (Optimization)

      • kadir

        architecture is everything

    • not a spark

      You reliese on iOS 64 bit is not going to make much difference for a while, android is most likely going to need 4+ GB of ram before ios

    • Rudy

      As much as i Love Apple, i need to state some facts that really disturb me.

      Apple has really lost their smartphone leadership and innovation. ( not talking about Macs )

      First of all, every year a new iphone is released and the previous years model drops to $99 on contract. Meaning that the iphone 5 would have been $99 on contract this year.

      What apple has done brilliantly is discontinue the iphone 5 completely and replaced it with the Iphone 5C. It’s the same thing as the iphone 5 but much cheaper to produce since it uses a plastic shell.

      So instead of getting the nice iphone 5 with it’s metal and glass body for $99, you are getting this plastic phone that is the same thing but cheaper. I feel bad for anyone buying the 5C thinking that they are getting a new phone.

      Second, Apple really needs to start introducing new features for the iPhone, pretty much all the new additions are underlying spec bumps which most people don’t even notice. Apple’s iphone design has been literally stagnant for the past five generations. I’ve purchased every iPhone model from the very beginning and i grew tired of the same design year over year. Maybe Tim Cook has not been able to give Apple any new innovation nor ideas. It is maybe time for Apple to search for new leaders to breathe life into its slipping technological edge.

      The 5s will be the first iphone i won’t buy (5c too obviously) . Really hope apple works hard this upcoming year to correct this mess. I hope i’m the only one feeling this way…

      • Kurt

        Better to buy a iPhone 5 used. Much better deal and you get the metal. But I prefer plastic over metal. Metal bends, chips less importantly scratches. I think the plastic iphone 5 is ugly just like the ugly nokia phone they copied. Not sure the model

      • Rudy

        I don’t really think they copied nokia phones,unless nokia invented colors but i agree with you that they are both ugly.They just made the iphone 5 much cheaper to produce.

      • ULTIMATEXFIGHTER

        I’m with you on this! I myself won’t be buying this either. I also owned each iPhone but there’s really no need to upgrade. I wasn’t “wow’d” this time around. Such a disappointment. Oh well, maybe next year will be better or else, it’s time to shop around for another phone.

    • Amadhya Jain

      Lol! While the joke is hilarious, its far away from truth.
      Apple’s 64 bit architecture is going to be a maximum 3-5s faster than Samsung’s Octa core. Infact , Apple could have just added a Quad Core or Octa Core instead of the 64 bit processor. They just shot themselves in the leg. You iSheeps know nothing and can flaunt only specs. “I have a 64 bit processor, what do you have, an octa core? Lol!” But, you don’t know the burden that the 64 bit architecture will cause for the devs. First, if they write an application specific to iPhone 5s (lol, why can’t they name it 5S), it will not work on any other iOS device aka “fragmentation” (for which, Android has been criticised for a long time). And, if they make an application for the 32 bit architecture (which was used till the iPhone 5), the application will be of no benefit for iPhone 5s (still, lel at the name). Then, what use is the iPhone 5s’s 64 bit architecture? If it will run apps just like they will run on iPhone 5c or 5. Thus, the devs would have to work twice as hard in making the application.
      Instead, if Apple had added a simple quad core or octa core, there would not have been too much difference in the performance and there would be no fragmentation.
      As google finds ways to deal with fragmentation, Apple is increasing the fragmentation in iOS.

      • Wamid

        It took only one guy from the company that produced The Infinity Blade III (a very high-in-graphics game) only two hours to convert that game into 64-bit.

        THERE.

      • Zero

        Thank you.

      • Zero

        Are you serious right?, why would apple put that manny cores? My dual core on my iPhone 5 is running buttery smooth and fast, so it’s great for apple to move up from 32 bit to 64 bit, and so I’m going said it like android people said we got 4 core or 8 cores blah blah, apple got a fully 64Bit phone

  • Austin

    Thank you!

  • rasengan720 .

    despite all the “achievements” they’ve made, i feel like the 5c was a major let down cause of the fact that it’s not a a budget iphone but a plastic version of the iphone 5.. another thing is despite they say that the camera is better than ever before its still 8MP, that’s 3 models with the same pixel density.. they could have done so much more but they don’t.. :( THIS IS ONLY MY OPINION DON’T START ARGUMENTATIVE COMMENTS!!!!

    • n0ahcruz3

      Hahahaha :P

    • felixtaf

      The budget iPhone is all the media hype. I too believed that an iPhone will be released around 400$ range.
      Regarding the camera, higher megapixels are not always better. Higher megapixels are good for poster printing and cropping, not image quality. Image quality has to do with the sensors. They rightly added a bigger sensor. So its a better upgrade.
      Whats the point of having 440 ppi in a 4 inch device, when 326 ppi is really good…
      They could have done so much more, but they dint – I Agree..

      (not argueing, jus stating my point)

      • Kurt

        441ppi is noticibly sharper. Just cause Apple said the human eye can’t distinguish the pixels on 300ppi doesn’t make it true. Its false. They have even higher at 326ppi and I can see pixels (look at the time at the top of the screen) But without even trying you can see 441ppi is sharper. I’m curious if I’ll notice a difference in the note 3′s ppi compared to the iPhone’s since its a little less than 400?

      • Rudy

        i posted a comment concerning that 2 weeks ago:

        Samsung claims a screen resolution of 441 ppi, and Apple gives the iPhone 5 a spec of 326 ppi.. This would be a clear cut thing – IF – pixels were the smallest dots on a screen – and – if Samsung used the same definition for a pixel as Apple – but they don’t. The smallest dot on a screen is a sub pixel – a combination of sub-pixels make up a pixel. The more sub-pixels you have the more pixels.

        How about counting the sub-pixels? Counting on the Galaxy S4 will get you 882 dots per inch.. Counting the same small pixels on the iPhone 5 will give you 978 sub-pixels.. By this count the iPhone 5 has 9% more sub-pixels per inch !

        So how come Samsung claims 441 ppi ? And Apple 326??

        Samsung counts 2 sub-pixels as one pixel. Apple counts 3 sub-pixels as one pixel. Blue OLED’s are the hardest to produce on screens.. Samsung – while very close on red and blues – has less then the iPhone. Samsung instead has even smaller green sub-pixels to help blend color. Basically Samsung has sacrificed some color-correctness- but IN REALITY no one will be able to tell.

        And even if Samsung has a TRUE 441 PPI the sad thing is for ANY COMPANY – and this includes future Apple products like the iPhone 6 ( which promises a bigger screen and more ppi ) that ANY PPi over 262 SIMPLY DOESNT MATTER..

        It’s called visual acuity. At 12 inches away – a person with 20/20 vision CAN’T see better then 262 pixels per inch. In fact 99% of 1080P High Definition Wide Screen Tv’s only have mid-200 ppi….( much less then what most get on about any modern smartphone screen )… If Apple or any company puts out a screen with 500 ppi next year it won’t appear any sharper then 300 ppi.. because your eyes simply don’t have the ability to clarify things that small..

        More or less ppi has become another marketing tool and although the technology gets better – ppi ( in itself ) beyond 300ppi ( on any size screen ) its useless unless you can install a bionic eye that make a person see better..

      • Kurt

        I can tell the difference, and it is noticable. not just a little noticiable between 441 and 326. The clock at the top of the screen of the iphone, is not crisp and that is well above Apple’s lie of 300ppi.

      • Sokrates

        Raymond Soneira, president of DisplayMate Technologies, has challenged Apple’s claim. He says that the physiology of the human retina is such that there must be at least 477 pixels per inch in a pixelated display for the pixels to resolve (become imperceptible to the human eye) at a distance of 12 inches (305 mm).[11] The astronomer and science blogger Phil Plait notes, however, that, “if you have [better than 20/20] eyesight, then at one foot away the iPhone 4S’ pixels are resolved. The picture will look pixellated. If you have average eyesight [20/20 vision], the picture will look just fine….So in my opinion, what Jobs said was fine. Soneira, while technically correct, was being picky.”[12] Shortly after Soneira’s challenge, the Boys of Tech podcast published their own analysis[13] and concluded that Soneira’s claim was invalid and that Jobs’ claim was correct. This was primarily due to the fact that Soneira misinterpreted the manner by which the acuity of the human eye can be tested. The retinal neuroscientist Bryan Jones offers a more detailed but similar analysis and comes to a similar conclusion: “…I’d find Apple’s claims stand up to what the human eye can perceive.”[14]

        Contrary to public perception, Apple did not invent the idea of a retina display. The first small high-density display was created by IBM Research in 1998.[

      • Kurt

        nice…and it’s time for Apple to increase its ppi. Higher ppi does look more crisp without trying to see the difference. It’s instantaneously noticeable. 326ppi was great for 2010, but not for 2013. That’s just old hat.

    • Julio Cesar

      You want more pixels or better pixels?
      Because there’s differences…
      Better pixels depends of the sensor size and aperture of lens (that’s what they upgraded), but if you just want bigger pictures with the same quality so yes megapixels would be required …

      • Vitaliy Anonymous

        That’s so true. You could have a two megapixel phone with a really great sensor, that would result in great pictures, or you could have 8MP phone camera with horrible sensor that results in grainy pictures. All megapixels do is allow the image to be resized larger.

      • Markus Hudobnik

        Exactly. This is why most android phones with 15 MP cameras still produce horrible pictures compared to the iPhone 5

      • Vitaliy Anonymous

        One thing I am still curious. How big does the sensor size has to be for it to capture perfect images? In this case, does the megapixels affect the sensor size? If I want more megapixels, then I would need a bigger sensor?

      • Markus Hudobnik

        Well, yeah eventually I would guess.

    • Sean Cua

      More pixels =/= better picture.

      • Kurt

        Everyone knows that. But it does help. But you also need better lenses, sensor, and what everyone leaves out, better software processing.

      • Sean Cua

        Actually most people don’t know that. Most people only know that more MP means better image quality. That’s why people only check the MP count instead of check the aperature, light sensor, etc. It’s really a big misconception that MP makes the picture better.

      • Kurt

        Most people don’t know that. You are right. I was referring to most techy people. My sister’s infant surely doesn’t know it :P

      • Sean Cua

        Most non-techy people don’t know that. It’s only a few percent of the smartphone owners are techy people and most non-techy people will say that having a higher MP count will make the image better.

  • Gus Me

    This is now two “releases” where I’m disappointed. iPad mini I was very disappointed and refused to buy one (although) I was ready to and this one slightly disappointed. I’m still on the 4s so this would be a very nice upgrade for me, but I just feel that Apple keeps nickel and diming us with these updates/refreshes. I know why they don’t upgrade the MP’s on the camera, make a bigger phone, etc… (why do it if people are going to buy the phone anyways). I just wish they’d wow us like they did with retina, and 3GS to 4. It seems unbelievable that we still don’t have something as simple as quick reply available?! I can’t be the only one that feels this way?

    • Johnny Walker

      No you’re not. Although I’m willing to bet this time next year apple does something big. iWatch or what have you, either way it’ll have to be a change from them baby feeding us. I’ve always been an apple user/fan. I’d hate to say that would change but, us big kids are getting hungry and I for one am not impressed with the latest iPhone.

      • Markus Hudobnik

        I agree, but what did we expect from an “S” year?

    • n0ahcruz3

      Same here. Apple really took the “incremental” to a whole new level. I still cant believe we’re in 2013 and their flagship phone is still stuck on 8mp.

      • Markus Hudobnik

        megapixels ARE NOT everything. They upgraded the sensor tremendously! More megapixels= better for cropping and printing. I’d take sensor upgrades over megapixel upgrades any day (although, i do believe we should have a 12 MP camera)

      • n0ahcruz3

        Ok if next years iphone stays at 8mp. Because apple thinks 8mp is enough for a camera. What will you say to that?

      • Markus Hudobnik

        Well, seeing as i JUST said that i wish to see a 12 MP camera…. I would be disappointed. By next year we should see a MP upgrade. But still, it better come with senor upgrades and not just 8 MP to 12 MP because that is pointless.

      • n0ahcruz3

        They can put atleast a 10mp and at the same time upgrade the sensor. I mean 2yrs whats holding them from upgrading to a higher mp?

      • Markus Hudobnik

        Because there really hasn’t been a point too. At least in my eyes. MP are always nice for cropping

      • n0ahcruz3

        4S,5, 5S thats 3 iphones with the same MP. Yeah but non-apple fans will see this as apple playing catch up. Resulting to poor sales.

      • Markus Hudobnik

        It will not result in poor sales, lol. It sucks that people thing megapixels are everything because the casual will see the galaxy has a 13 MP camera and automatically think it is better. Same marketing behind the lumia (although, th lumia does have an impressive camera, but they are marketing the 41 MP camera)

      • n0ahcruz3

        Ofcourse it will ios marketshare in china declined. And people specially in asia likes gadgets with great specs and large screens. And the iphone 5C is not going to put a dent on the dominant android there 549 is just too expensive for a plastic phone.

      • Markus Hudobnik

        Okay that’s Asia. They have always been a hard market to crack for apple (and many other companies for that matter).

      • n0ahcruz3

        Well i thought tim cook said, apple will focus on china? Thats why they keep opening up new apple store in china. And china is about to surpassed US as no1 in smartphone usage. And furthermore iphone release in china is also the same day as US and canada.

      • Markus Hudobnik

        Yeah, they are trying to have a better presence there. This won’t make poor results for apple. It will probably just not help or do damage.

      • n0ahcruz3

        And its not true that asia has been a hard market to crack. In japan and southkorea iphone is still no.1(not sure on south korea tho). But apple is just really emphasizing more on china. Thats why they made the iphone 5c which is still imo expensive.

    • Vitaliy Anonymous

      You don’t need to upgrade megapixels on the phone to have better quality images. Apple upgraded the sensor, which will take in more light, resulting less grainy pictures in low light situation, and in great light, it will just make the camera even more better.

      • DosXX

        “even more better” Learn to speak English, fuckface. :)

      • Rafael Rafael

        Oh my you must be soooo smart!!!!

      • Sean Cua

        His English ain’t bad.

  • n0ahcruz3

    So what does C stands for? Clearly not stand for cheap. Or maybe since its going to be released in china same day as US and canada mean. C stands for china? But 549? Are u kidding me? I could buy a 4 lumia phones or a china branded smartphone for the whole family with that price. So I guess c stands for color? Hahaha

    • Julio Cesar

      plasti”C”
      Oh no, sorry, poly”C”arbonate

      • n0ahcruz3

        Lol

      • Kurt

        Android=Cheap Plastic (even when they are also polycarbonate)

        iOS devices=Polycarbonate

      • Julio Cesar

        If the back cover of the device is made to be removed it’s probably thin and fragile…
        That’s why.

        All plastic / polycarbonate devices that don’t have removable battery are more resistent because the back cover is thicker and stronger to protect the hardware inside.

        In devices that have removable battery, the stronger part is below the plastic back cover…

      • Kurt

        To protect your phone, its better to have a thin plastic backing that is removable. Once dropped the shock is absorbed more to the thin plastic which pops off. Same principle seen in plastic objects that are on the road to take the impact to lessen it from the car.

      • Julio Cesar

        What if you drop your device and the parts fly everywhere, and then someone steps on it?
        Then you’re f*cked… Until you get another back cover (or put some tape on it)…

        Better have some scratches than an missing part.
        And replace the scratched part when you can without lose your device functionality.

      • Kurt

        Parts wouldn’t fly anywhere. One part pops off, reducing the shock to the phone. thats a good thing. if you are worried about scratches you shouldn’t be an apple fan. iphone 5 bends too. youtube “iphone 5 bent” thats one awful build phone, just awful

      • Julio Cesar

        I’m worried about devices with removable batteries, just because it splits into two or more parts that can easily break if dropped.

        That’s one of the reasons of I have an Nexus 4 as a secundary device. (Not to mention the excellent performance, pure and updated Android, etc)

        And I really hate devices that the battery pops off and turn off the device, I lose important things, take some time to power on, etc.

      • Kurt

        You are perfect for apple.

      • Julio Cesar

        What you’re trying to say?

      • Kurt

        What it really boils down to is this. iOS users are willing to have less features, less functions for a better optimized experience. I hear Android now is as good but I’m not convinced. I prefer more features, more functions because my iDevices lag like hell. Not so much my 4S. But my iPad is so so slow. But thats due to getting more features from jailbreaking.

      • Julio Cesar

        Removable battery is not a feature… I don’t want to power off and put another battery, that’s pointless because you lose the practicality and productivity. I can buy some really better external batteries and plug on the device.

        Android is not all of this that people say…
        On pure Android you can’t even select an different wallpaper for home and lockscreen… You only can choose one for both.

        Pure Android don’t have a lot of features, actually has much less than the iOS…
        But if you get an device like Galaxy S4, you get a lot of features, but lose performance and battery life… TouchWiz lags a lot more than the iOS on iPhone 4.

        The only way to get better experience with an Android device is using custom roms, like Paranoid Android, that can optimize the software to extract more power of the hardware. And you get more customization and so on… But on Android, you have to format and install a whole modded version of Android to get an function that you like, and it comes with a lot of features that you really don’t want…

        That’s why Jailbreak + Cydia offers better experience than the “free Android”, because you can install what feature you want.

      • Kurt

        Why would you need to change the battery? because your phone lost power. Now you and your iPhone lost all “practicality and productivity”

        Sorry but I stopped reading there. You are clearly a fanboy and not objective.

      • Julio Cesar

        There’s really good external batteries with more than 10.000mAh in the market.
        Plug it to your device with the usb cable and you can use intensively for days, literally.

      • not a spark

        I also have a nexus 4 and I’m telling you I would give a lot for a remvoable battery

      • Julio Cesar

        There’s cases and external batteries with more than 10.000 mAh in the market. Plug it to your device with the usb cable and you can use intensively for days, literally.

      • Kurt

        Plug your device with the usb cable to the wall socket and you can use it for eternity. Why lug around a device larger than your phone + a cable. When you can lug around a little battery. Please don’t answer that.

      • Julio Cesar

        You can really carry the wall socket in your pocket? Wow, that sounds awesome.

      • Kurt

        what 10,000 mah charger fits in your pocket.

        I win.

      • Julio Cesar

        You really thinks this is some kind of children’s competition?
        Anyway, 10.000 mAh charger certainly is smaller than the Lumia 1040. These chargers actually have almost the same size of an iPhone 3GS.

      • Kurt

        Don’t lie, just be honest with this one question.

        I can give you a iPhone that has a removable battery, and I can give you the same iPhone that doesn’t but I’ll give you that 10,000mah charger. Which would you take? I know you would take the iPhone with a removable battery. Be honest.

      • Julio Cesar

        Being honest, I still prefer the same iPhone with the external charger.
        Seriously, stop thinking that all people has to think like you…
        A lot of people prefer carry two or more removable batteries, but I prefer something that I plug in and just works. I’m sure I’m not the only one thinking that way.

        If I want something like an removable battery, why not an battery case? Protects the device AND extends the battery. Two solutions in one accessory.

      • not a spark

        Yeah but you have to carry it around and it generates more heat to charge and use

      • Julio Cesar

        Not really, It would not be the same if you had two removable batteries?
        I have one really small external battery (2000mAh), can carry on my pocket or even pin it on my clothes.
        When you are using the device intensively it produces almost the same heat.

  • J™

    What we need next is iOS7 jailbreak

  • john smith

    i googled the Samsung Note 3 release.

  • Kurt

    Wife is getting ready, and we are heading out to pre-order two Note 3s (maybe get free smartwatches)! Hope the iPad 5 will have that rumored 13inch screen, really want that.

    • n0ahcruz3

      Thanks to apple, they helped me out on which smartphone i will be getting and its definately not an iphone 5S. Now my problem is GNote3 or xperiaZ1.

      • DosXX

        Preach Brotha n0ahcruz3!!

      • DosXX

        I’m Tired of this apple bullshiiiieeettttt

      • Markus Hudobnik

        What do you expect? It’s an “S” year

      • not a spark

        Nexus 5?

      • Julio Cesar

        So you need to look at this before…
        http : // goo. gl / CDJz8R

        The ‘little’ iPhone beats octa cores, and the bigger phones… Almost took 1st place
        But look at all the devices… Almost performs like the best Android device that has 6,6 inches!

    • Markus Hudobnik

      What do you see in the Note 3?

      • Kurt

        Larger screen. Multi-window, s-pen functions (pressure sensitivity), IR Blaster (really excited about the ease of finding shows and clicking on them to change to that channel), I’m going to hook up my phone to my tv and use a bluetooth controller to play games with the wife. But I’ll miss some awesome apps that work better on the iPhone then iPad. Are you sticking with the iPhone?

      • Markus Hudobnik

        Well, I have an iPhone 5 and I’m on contract still. So I get to decide next year. Hopefully the iPhone 6 can actually bring more to the table. But as to your post, I don’t really care about the tv features (although they are cool) and multi-windows I don’t care about either. But I realllllly want a larger screen.
        Not too large but like 4.4-5 inch screen.

      • Kurt

        4″ screen look so outdated. for me 4.5 is just too small. Hopefully I won’t think 5.7 is too big though! But I did really like the size of the Note 2, and this seems even better.

      • Markus Hudobnik

        I agree that the 4″ in outdated. But We shouldn’t have expected more than a 4″ screen because this is Apple’s “s” year. I personally think 5.7 is too big. I still want a phone to be a phone that can easily fit into my pocket. 5″ is the top i would go.I have a tablet/laptop for the bigger things. But really, if apple doesn’t wow me with the iPhone 6, i will probably switch to the next galaxy even though i hate the Android OS. Actually, I might switch to Windows Phone instead. It just sucks because i have Apple products for awhile now and i have built this ecosystem of apps, music, etc.

      • Kurt

        I don’t mind rebuying some apps. There really aren’t many that I use all the time that aren’t free. Most apps I play/use for a week or so and never touch again. But I will miss some great apps. I’m curious about Windows Phone. People say the apps are so limited. They have around 300,000 but I’m not sure what they have and don’t have with the important devs.

      • Markus Hudobnik

        I’ve heard the Windows Store sucks because of lack of apps. I’m a big iphotography/dslr type person, so i always have about 15+ editing/camera apps on my phone. I would really miss those.

  • Jeremy

    Kinda off topic but some answers would be appreciated, so I’m on beta 6 right now and am not a developer and I currently don’t have access to my laptop (broken charger) and cannot update to the GM of iOS 7, so when the public version is out next week will I be able to update OTA from beta 6 to public version or not? Thanks in advance. :)

    • The Shoonchy 

      As far as I know, I think you can’t update from Beta 6 to the full GM OTA.
      This is far as I know, I could be wrong, but I think you can’t update OTA.

      • Jeremy

        No I know that I mean updating OTA from beta 6 to the public real ease of iOS 7, do you think I’d be able to do that? Sadly I have no access to a laptop. :/

      • The Shoonchy 

        Here

        Copied from somewhere

        “iOS 7 Beta 6 released August 15, 2013 and though the expiration date is still a few weeks away — October 6, 2013 — those who want to return to iOS 6.1.3 or 6.1.4, should downgrade as soon as possible. Why? Because if you don’t, when the public version of iOS 7 finally releases you will be forced to remain on it as the signing window for iOS 6.1.3/6.1.4 will be completely closed. This is true for all iPhones, iPads and iPods capable of testing the iOS 7 betas.”

        So I’m guessing that you would have to downgrade to 6.1.3 so that you can download and install the public release of iOS 7. That means OTA won’t be possible I think.

  • Wamid

    I have a couple of questions..

    This one is really dumb.. Is the new i5s button still clickable?!

    Is the new silver like the old iPhone 5 or is it a new colour? as I can’t tell from the pictures

    • TuNuT

      1. Yes
      2. Yes (space gray instead of black slate)
      :)

      • Wamid

        Thank you!!

        I meant the silver-white though.. Is it different from the old one?

      • TuNuT

        Nope, they keep the old colour… :)

  • Mike

    This is why I went to the S4. Still nothing new from Apple. Same old stuff. No wow factor.

    • Kurt

      Same out dated 4″ screen that’s not even HD.

  • Yunsar

    Panoramic wallpapers haven’t been working fro me since beta 5. Anyone else got this problem?

  • Harley M

    Thank you!!

  • greasymilkshake

    Does someone know at which time they’re letting us buy the 5S through the online store on the 20th? Is it directly at midnight? Or 8:00am in the moring alongside the Apple Store openings?

    Same for pro ordering 5C. At which time?

  • dan

    the iphone 5c looks jus like a toy ! and I was hopin theyd make a bigger screen ! damn u apple

  • Well_Said

    Same phone different colour, well done Apple

    • Siddharth Desai

      You’ll like my post.

  • Well_Said

    What a bunch of mindless iSheeps

  • Qasim Bashir

    can anyone answer this please? i installed iOS 7 GM on my iPhone, What will happen when its publicly released ? will i have to update normally to that or restore in itunes? or will i run in any trouble?????????????????

    • Stefano

      You will be fine and there will not be a problem. GM is the final release. Next update will be OTA and via iTunes to every person with applicable iDevice’s

  • Siddharth Desai

    If this is what Tim Cook & Co. label “Amazing”, then we are in for some disappointments in the future.

    64 bit processor – cool. But the average smartphone user doesn’t give a you know what about it.

    Better Camera – it better be better

    Touch ID – oh look, I can unlock my iPhone with my print. But that’s it, can’t do it for anything else.

    I know I’m gonna have people who disagree with me and that’s fine, I’ve got my opinions and you’ve got yours.

    And the iPhone 5C. *sigh*. Let’s take the iPhone 5, put it in a plastic shell and name it something different.

    Anyways, I don’t like this new direction Apple is going into.

  • Mohamed Ahmed

    117 comments thats allot

  • Marlber Cruz

    This is ridiculous! The only real new product apple has is the 5S. All
    that the 5C is a cheaply made version of the regular 5. Apple slapped a
    cheaper, colored back case, kept it all at the same relative price, and
    then have the gall to call it a “new” phone?! I guess their banking on
    people having more common sense then money. But please tell you guys at
    iDB can see this ruse for what it is? Not innovation, just a sad
    marketing attempt. Sad…