Cydia Substrate

When TaiG released its iOS 8.3 jailbreak early this morning, it was largely assumed that saurik would need to do something on his end to ensure compatibility with Cydia Substrate—the support framework used to run your favorite jailbreak tweaks.

As it turns out, that’s not exactly the case. In fact, saurik himself has cleared the air, making it apparent that the ball is in TaiG’s court when it comes to providing a fix for substrate.

This is due to the fact that a kernel patch is what’s needed to get Cydia Substrate working properly, and that falls squarely within the jurisdiction of the TaiG jailbreak team.

When will we see an update to the TaiG tool, and how will it be distributed? If you’re already jailbroken, the update will most likely appear as a package that’s downloadable via Cydia.

If you wait to jailbreak until TaiG pushes a fix, then the update will most likely be incorporated into the actual jailbreak tool.

As far as a time frame is concerned, no one knows for sure, but saurik seems to think it will be soon. I’m hoping it will be soon, as the jailbreak isn’t nearly as potent without all of the great jailbreak tweaks that we know and love.

What do you think? Are you holding off on the jailbreak until Cydia Substrate is working, or have you already taken the plunge?

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  • Dalton

    Saurik did say on reddit that he had a patch and ~20 minutes late the TaiG team also had a fix separate to his. It shouldn’t be long.

    • chris

      Where did you read this?

      • Mario Britten

        Reddit 😀

      • Tyler Smith

        In his post it says reddit…

      • chris

        Thx

      • WHAT IS GOOGLE? AND WHAT IS THIS REDDIT YOU SPEAK OF?? So where did you read this?? lmao

      • chris

        Come down mate!

  • Gabriel Anaya

    I already jailbroke the second the opportunity arose. Yes, I miss so many tweaks, but the few that do work like f.lux will do it for now.

  • Juschan

    somehow i dont see the point in jailbreaking now… i will get apple music as soon as its available and since this is only a few days ahead it would be stupid now to give up my public beta for ios 8.3

    • DrD83

      I’m kind of in the same boat for now, but who knows. i definitely support those that want to do it.

  • Eikast

    I’m so happy that there’s a jailbreak post Apple Watch 😀
    I’m waiting though for iOS 8.4. Apparently there’s a good chance that the jailbreak will work with it and I rather not have to wipe my phone and reinstall everything to upgrade from iOS 8.3 to 8.4

    • Juschan

      i dont know but i thought it was clear there is no chance its working on 8.4?

      • Eikast

        on r/jailbreak there was a thread on a jailbreak developer who edited the hex file and got it working. Not 100% if that was legit or not but I never saw 100% proof that it doesn’t work.

        If it doesn’t this will be tough. I want that Apple Music.

  • Xin Chan

    TaiG is also fixing other bugs. So I think it will take a few days before they can release the 2.0.1 tool or so.

  • Gulam

    But i have a patience to wait for iOS 8.4 and then Jailbreak and then Substrate update and then jailbreak tool update and then tweaks compatibility and then iOS 9 and then…….
    OMG i cant wait will jailbreak iOS 8.3 now

    • Felipe Queiroz Drumond

      Wait a little more! I just upgraded to 8.3 and as substrate is not compatible yet, all cydia’s tweaks are not running.

      • ✯Mike✯

        Substrate works fine, Taig missed a small patch to get it properly functioning

      • Felipe Queiroz Drumond

        Hummmm. Thanks!
        I hope they patch it asap!

  • Ram4ever

    Just a doubt.. I am unable to see my purchased tweaks in Cydia (under Manage account) . Is this because of substrate ?
    I am asking this because I bought all my tweaks with Previous Iphone and this is the first time I have jailbroken my new Iphone.

    Thanks

    • Muhamad Shafiq

      Same case here. I have read in some jailbreak forums that many of jailbreakers out there have the same situation as we in right now. So, i do think, it is probably due to the substrate. I suppose, we’ll have to wait for the update, to know for sure.

    • chris

      Just write down your tweaks, then download the, later

  • Ram4ever

    Sure.. Thanks for the response

  • Chris

    Still jailbroken in iOS 8.1.1, everything works so no need to rush into it.

    • Nesly Lacroix

      That was exactly the point I made yesterday. If you were already jailbroken prior to this jailbreak, you would wait for the 8.4 jailbreak. Unless you have an Apple Watch.

  • Abhijeet Gupta

    Holy Shit.

  • lferlito

    iPhone 5 jailbroken. Better stay on 7.1.2 or updating to 8.3?

    • Ram4ever

      wait for few days 🙂 . Once JB is stabilized then upgrade to 8.3

    • chris

      5 or 5s? I heard that the 5 will struggle on 8.3

      • SimDoesiOS

        I’m on iPhone 5 there is no problems? ive been on ios 8.3 for months now 🙂 No worries

  • chris

    iOS 8.3 seems sharper and more solid. Emoticons colour make me sick.
    Jailbreak went smooth if you have the iTunes 12.0.1.
    Can’t wait for update. None of my tweaks are working. Why did they release a JB without Cydia compability?

    • Varun Soi

      Exactly none of my favourite tweak is working right now!

    • hArShit YaDaV

      You don’t have to wait that much

      • SimonDoesiOS

        TODAY IM SO HAPPY

      • Jeremy

        What’s your time zone anyways?

  • Mohamed Zazoa

    I already Jailbroken But still didnt get any Updates ..

    • Waleed

      There will be an update soon in cydia. just wait for it. i don’t think it will take longer than 6 hours from now

      • Mohamed Zazoa

        We hope so.

      • SimonDoesiOS

        It Should come out today!

      • Victor Hugo Lazari

        it just came out. the whole upgrade.
        upgrading here!

      • Victor Hugo Lazari

        but, it is just a Cydia fix. :Z

  • Preben Faarkrog Hansen

    Waiting for Mac version

  • hArShit YaDaV

    Here’s a good news for all of us.

    • Joe Clarke

      I hope they do release the update today I need my tweaks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • hArShit YaDaV

        They will.

      • Joe Clarke

        I wonder if it will be like an update in Cydia or a 2.0.1 tool that will be released.

      • hArShit YaDaV

        It will be an update in Cydia for those who have jailbroken their devices.They don’t have to go through the whole process again.

      • SimonDoesiOS

        Its 20:13:25 in Beijing, China
        Or 8 PM 🙂 If you prefer that 🙂

      • Joe Clarke

        Thanks simon, But i meant what time will they release it in China! Thanks for telling me anyway. Nice to know that people are there to help others

      • SimonDoesiOS

        Your Welcome. I also would love to know the time they release it, that would be nice! Yep its nice that people help each other! 🙂

      • SimonDoesiOS

        BTW. You got Skype? 🙂 If you have and wanna talk about jailbreak you can add me: simonakadayrunnerdk

    • Mohamed Zazoa

      We hope so

    • David Horbach

      Around what time would this be in the British timezone?

      • SimonDoesiOS

        Hi David. We dont know the time atm, only that it will be today.

    • SimonDoesiOS

      YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Hot12345

      Wich app is that you using?

      • SkyFall

        Its Twitter.

  • Joe Clarke

    That’s bad to hear mate, I’m sorry but soon there will be a jailbreak for iOS 9 before you know it! There should be some way to go back to iOS 8.3

    • Tyler Smith

      Can’t use his watch again though

  • Strykker

    Waiting patiently. I love the chatter though, it doesn’t take much to get an Apple blog going. just mention jailbreak, sit back and read away.

  • Toon

    yesterday i have JB my iphone 6 no problem just downgrade itunes

  • Adam

    You can still downgrade to iOS 8.3 as long as Apple is signing

    • Tyler Smith

      Can’t use his watch then

  • Rafeh babar

    according to reddit we will be seeing an update today

    • Joe Clarke

      Yay I can’t wait!

  • Dillon D Wetman Morris

    I can’t get access to ifunbox although I’m jailbroken any suggestions thanks thou

    • SimonDoesiOS

      Dillon: think you need SHH or SHSH or something like that, im not completely sure though.

      • Lane Crouch

        The term is SSH. The package that gives jailbroken devices SSH capability is OpenSSH.

  • Hot12345

    Will umberallla work on this? if we go on 8.4 . then go back to 8.3

  • jalexcarter

    still havent been able to jb TaiG tool not recognizing iTunes as being installed on my computer for some reason so nothin I can really do but wait for the Mac version.

  • Ron G

    Any list of tweaks that actually work for now without the substrate update?

    • Vinicius Porto

      I’d love to know

  • James G

    This is why it’s always safe to wait at least a week after a new jailbreak is released!

  • Brett Van Der Ryken

    You do realize you can just downgrade back to 8.3 & downgrade your watch OS back to 1 right…. Apple is still signing for them both.

    I’ve personally tested out IOS 9 Beta 1 & 2. Successfully downgraded back to IOS 8.3, 8.4 beta 1,2,3 & 4. They all work there’s just a certain way to do it without running into any errors.

    • Blip dude

      Can you explain how to downgrade Watch OS back to OS 1?? Not that I have an Apple Watch, but I keep hearing Watch OS cannot be downgraded.

      • Brett Van Der Ryken

        I myself haven’t got an apple watch so I would t know specifically. But I would think it’d be possible just as it’s possible on IOS

      • Blip dude

        Nope, it’s not. While the iPhone uses iTunes to update (or in this case downgrade), From what I read, you need the iPhone on iOS 9 to update to Watch OS 2 and as of right now there is no option from the iPhone to downgrade the Watch OS. This is why he is the position he/she are in. However, if they are not a developer, it is their own fault to begin with because they shouldn’t be playing with Beta software to begin with anyways.

      • Brett Van Der Ryken

        Ahhhh, fair enough then. That’s quite a mess he’s gotten himself into. But as I previously states you can successfully downgrade back from IOS 9 back to 8.3,8.4b1/b2/b3/b4

        I managed to do so & successfully restore from backup as well. It’s a very confusing process but can be done. But as for the apple watch I guess you’re screwed for now then.

  • Blip dude

    I’ll wait, I have everything ready and good to go, but I’ve been having both Hardware and Software issues with the iPhone 6 Plus, so this is my opportunity to get my phone swapped for another one. Once I pay a visit to the Apple Store, then I’ll have a brand new device to Jailbreak right out of the box. The fact that Cydia Substrate still hasn’t been updated proves that while I should update my devices soon, I’m still not missing out on much, besides being on a more Stable firmware.

  • hassan farqaleet

    my iphone 6 iOS 8.3is successfully updated but i am unable to instal the tweeks please help 🙁

  • McHenryGames

    I took the plunge. Hello unsigned ipas.

  • Rafaeli

    How are you going to release a have baked jailbreak? I jailbroke my iPhone right away only to find out that tweaks don’t work. Stop with the teasing.

  • sault

    I really think that my admired saurik did wrong this time. Taig has got to develope a jailbreak (you need more tons of talent to do any jailbreak, but this last ios needs a genius), that is, has managed to get to the file system.
    Thai is a jailbreak. Has NOTHING to do with Cydia,
    Given the fact that Cydia is a platform owned exclusively by Saurik, and knowing that to de patch the kernel is a minus minus programing problem, i think Saurik should have been more generous.

    It’s odd, coming from him

  • YungJizz

    Gawd, the whinning! I think we should ALL be greatful that someone even attempted to put out a jailbreak!

  • hassan farqaleet

    my iphone 6 iOS 8.3is successfully updated but i am unable to instal the tweeks please help 🙁

  • hassan farqaleet

    my iphone 6 iOS 8.3 jailbreak is successfully done but i am unable to instal the tweeks please help 🙁

  • chris

    Thx

  • chris

    my antivirus warn me of a malware.GEN inside the TAIG zip from their site. is it normal?

  • chris

    same with TAIG PRO. walware .GEN alert