Apple A7 (bite me Samsung)

According to sources who spoke with an anchor for Fox News Channel, the A7 chip expected to power Apple’s iPhone 5S is “very fast,” nearly a third faster than the A6 silicon ticking inside the current-generation iPhone 5. That’s only half the story as the reporter has also heard there’s a separate chip inside the device devoted to motion tracking.

Oh, and a prominent blogger has independently heard claims that some of the internal iPhone 5S prototypes include a 64-bit flavor of the A7 chip. He’s also learned a couple interesting tidbits concerning the rumored fingerprint sensor, the way it works and how it could lend itself to mobile payments integration…

Fox News Channel anchor Clayton Morris tweeted today that the A7 chip is at least 31 percent faster than the current A6 package.

He also claimed there might be a separate chip for motion sensing, a first for the iPhone.

Morris goes on to speculate that motion sensing could be used to improve the handset’s camera performance. There may be more to motion tracking than just the camera, according to Bloomberg’s profile of Apple’s design guru Jony Ive:

Longer term, Ive also has shown interest in altering how people control their computers. He has met with makers of gesture technology that lets people navigate their gadgets by moving their hands – without touching the screen, said a personal familiar with those interactions.

As for the camera, we’ve previously heard that the iPhone 5S will sport an improved camera with dual-LED flash and larger F2.0 aperture for better low-light performance, in addition to silky smooth slow-motion video capture at 120 frames per seconds, four times the number of frames required for natural motion capture.

Interestingly enough, analyst Ming-Chi Kuo recently wrote in a note to clients that the in-house designed A7 chip could include a 64-bit ARMv8 CPU platform.

iPhone 5S and 5C specs (Ming-Chi Kuo table 001)

I have a problem with the 64-bit claim.

If Apple is making a jump to 64-bit mobile computing, then iOS 7 should be compiled for 64-bit architecture and there’s nothing in iOS 7 Betas indicating that’s in fact the case.

More importantly, the current iOS 7 SDK does not offer an option to compile applications for 64-bit. There’s always a possibility that iOS 7 on the iPhone 5S could run existing applications in the 32-bit mode, but I’m inclined to speculate that iOS 7 isn’t ready yet for such a change in architecture.

It’s more like the A8 processor for 2014 iOS devices will be 64-bit. Indeed, chip analyst Linley Gwennap said in September 2012 that Apple has been working on a 64-bit ARMv8 chip for a 2014 launch.

If spyshots are anything to go by, the A7 package carries an Apple model number of APL0698. The A6 chip is labeled APL0598, with the iPad 4’s A6X variant carrying an APL5598 model number. An increment in the first digit (APL0698 vs APL0598) indicates a brand new chip rather than a variant of the existing model.

For what it’s worth, Mark Gurman of 9to5Mac has learned that 64-bit has been in testing.

We’re told that the 64-bit processing will make animations, transparencies, and other iOS 7 graphical effects appear much more smoothly than on existing iOS Devices.

As for the sapphire-protectedfingerprint-scanning Home button, Gurman heard that users will authenticate themselves into the iPhone 5S simply by holding down on the Home button rather than swiping over it, like on the Motorola Atrix and literally every smartphone that incorporates fingerprint reading.

We’re also consistently hearing that payments integration for the fingerprint scanner is a long-term goal, but not something happening this year.

As a source said, “think of the passcode-replacing fingerprint scanner as a beta test for future features.”

As the final piece of the puzzle, Gurman has been told that the plastic iPhone 5C will essentially be “an iPhone 5 with a plastic shell,” which is consistent with whispers I’ve been hearing as well.

iPhone 5C (green, back, top, Martin Hajek 001)

Ming-Chi Kuo has independently verified this, saying recently the $400-$500 iPhone 5C will phase out the iPhone 5 by re-packaging its internals into a plastic enclosure.

This makes a whole lot sense given how significantly less expensive a polycarbonate plastic shell is in mass production compared to the exquisite two-tone glass and aluminum Unibody design of the iPhone 5.

I know, it’s a lot to take in on a Sunday.

Be patient as the wait will soon be over: September 10 should see Apple launch the iPhone 5S/5C, with a likely gold color iPhone 5S option with 128GB of storage.

  • Tristan

    “…which is consistent with whispers I’ve been hearing as well.”


  • pauleebe

    Also he is claiming 2 iPhone 5 colors. So this means that the old white/silver is gone in favor of white/gold?

  • Bunna Chea

    So motion sensor for control the phone without touching the phone. Is not that stealing idea from samsung. Just saying lol

    • You’d think that’s the case, but sooner or later, expect a lawsuit suing Samsung for copying this feature from Apple…

    • Biken Dangol

      Honestly ,Motion sensor, Samsung motion sensor is very much in primitive form. It’s like saying Digit printer or Analog Printer is same because it does same thing.It’s not stealing if you bring something new. That’s the rule of other firms.

      • Ain’t that what Samsung has been doing with its Smarphones? Yet we keep coming across comments claiming they stole the idea from Apple…seriously, what’s with all the hypocrisy?

      • Rowan09

        I don’t know what featureSamsung copied from Apple and vice versa but I can tell you before any litigation when I saw my friends Galaxy 4G I thought it looked similar to the iPhone, the way the items where setup, etc. Including motion control is not stealing, Apple has a gyroscope, etc so did Samsugn steal that from them? I appreciate good tech regardless of who it comes from so stop the flame wars over nothing, go on an Android site and post your love for Google because everything I’ve every seen typed by you is Anti-Apple so why are you even here?

      • That doesn’t prove they made it first (http://bit ly/RYGgeV), that proves they have a marvelous marketing group.

        “Including motion control is not stealing”

        Then how is using of curved rectangular design considered as stealing? That’s part of the lawsuit Apple is suing Samsung for…

        Want me to praise Apple, then tell them to stop their hypocritical (http://bit ly/13tVo4o) attitude and/or build something that makes me go “wow”! Seriously, if you can’t afford to read negative facts about Apple’s greed, then consider finding an iTardsOnlyBlog; where the truth about Apple’s greed is forbidden. I guarantee you wouldn’t come across such negative facts about nor anything questioning your herd master, Apple, over there….

      • Biken Dangol

        I never said that samsung stoled Apple’s innovation! but stuff already existed which samsung modified it.
        That’s good thing!

      • Bunna Chea

        Biken you make no sense. Where do you think the 2 printer apply here. Where do you get that samsung sensor are primitive? All im saying samsung is the one that emphasizing the most about control your phone with motion. Now apple going to try that too is not that stealing the idea or what apple fanboy like to call being copycat?

      • Rowan09

        How can you steal motion sensing? Is that not a generic thing? Stealing means you take something from someone without them knowing or forcefully. If Samsung created motion sensing and Apple uses it, it would be stealing, Samsung never owned or neither does Apple own motion sensing. Besides all this Apple had a patent since 2010 I believe for motion sensing with a screen using the camera, etc. Did Samsung copy Apples iPhone yes but who cares its business and a smart move on their part because now they have the mass hypnotize like they’re the best thing since slice bread.

      • Biken Dangol

        Yup!!! Motion control , NFC already were patented by apple but by the virtue of law, it states that their should be a physical model present. Unfortunately Apple didn’t have model ready solely because they wanted it be picture perfect. Ya and just to make you clear they lost the battle. Idea is in air ,you just have to pick it made it reality.

    • Rowan09

      Apple had the patent for motion sensing years ago and waving your hand in front of a camera is part of motion sensing. Remember Apple bought I believe the company that made the Kinect.

      • Bunna Chea

        Rowans09 was I talking to you? If not sht up. All im saying is that samsung was thr biggest company that emphasing the idea of controlling with your phone so if apple try to follow it then it call copycat. The same way apple fan always saying that samsung steal stuff from iphone. I dont blame neither of them bc it called business. Just pointing out the obvious

      • Rowan09

        This is a blog if you didn’t notice and anyone can comment. Go and understand what it means to be a copycat, it’s not a generic thing it’s when someone actually tries to like the other person in everyway possible. You can’t say Samsung did it first not even sure if they did so anyone that does it is copying Samsung as if they created an idea or technology. I guess Samsung copied Sony by coming out with the S4 Active according to your logic. I’m done with you since your too sensitive. Sorry girlfriend.

      • Bunna Chea

        So you can honestly saying that apple did not try to copy Samsung with the ability to control their phone with motion? Yes you can say that Samsung copy Sony with s4 active, but you on the other hand are not wise or brave enought to admit that your beloved apple copy Samsung

      • Rowan09

        You have me all wrong I own both an iPhone and Note 2 so I’m far from a beloved Apple or any company at that fan. If someone makes a good product I appreciate it. I wouldn’t consider Samsung copying Sony because Sony can’t coin a generic thing such as a waterproof or dust proof phone, anyone can make a phone waterproof or dust proof. Motion control is generic so I would consider Apple using a gyroscope on their phones which is apart of motion control and say another company copies them if they also have a gyroscope on their phones. We will just agree to disagree on this one.

      • Steelahlive

        Primesense? Thought that was just rumor – and even then – it’s not like they’d get the “kinect” technology nor are any rumors/images of purported phones going to incorporate the “kinect” technology – in the sense that it works the way it does with Microsoft’s tech – this is definitely safe in MS’s camp of patents.

  • abe2np

    If it works it definitely won’t be stealing from Samsung!

  • 31% faster? Keep that in mind, ’cause you’ll probably hear on stage that the 5S is either 50% faster or twice as fast as the 5; implying that iOS 7 intentionally slows down the iPhone 5…

    • TeChNoStyLeZ

      haha on stage every ios and device upgrade seems so awesome with speed enhancements etc but it looks like every ios upgrade makes our devices even slower. When I installed ios 6 on my ipad 3 the app store started lagging like hell

      • mehrab

        Dont worry 🙂 thats fixed on ios 7! The appstore loads quicker and is smoothef

      • SkyFall

        Apple i think wants to make the iPad 3 obsolete as soon as possible, even though it has good specs. If you had iOS 7 Beta 5 installed you would see that they got rid of all the blur effects that iOS 7 had for simple transparency. Also the App Store loads very slow.

      • mehrab

        My ipad mini has all effects blurs transparency and all and the ipad 3 is more powerful then my mini so yeah i dont think so not yet maybe ios 8

      • RarestName

        The App Store has always lagged horribly for me.

      • mehrab

        Which device? Which ios you running?

      • RarestName

        iPad 3 and iPhone 4S.

      • mehrab

        I asked ios also ios 7 loads the appstore fast

      • RarestName

        iOS 6.1.2.

    • rafa benitez

      you are a genius, thats the key to progress, every single product in the word is acting like that, what you want to use nokia 3310 for all your life??
      You are a troll anyway

      • Raashid

        Sounding like a typical iTard. How is intentionally making a device slower considered as progression? ‘Cause your herd master told you? Hope you never have kids to transfer this idiocracy to…

      • rafa benitez

        you are not that smart to understand what i wrote

      • rafa benitez

        Your mama should be proud for you

      • Qiren_94

        How sure that they intentionally made their things slower? Have you checked the codes in iOS?
        And it is progression, it happens with any device. If a computer which runs very quickly on windows XP suddenly slows down when the user upgraded to Windows 7/8 means that Microsoff intentionally slows down the older devices? Get real, hardware doesn’t change much, software keeps evolving.

      • Uhm, ever heard of Windows 8? My ancient desktop came with XP, I upgraded it to Windows 8 and it’s much faster in every day usage. Point is, if you code it right, there shouldn’t be any reason why new software slows older hardware down.

        Every iOS device has their own distinct iPSW of iOS versions, so, why not remove the crapware (like launch daemons) that slow the older devices down? That’s easy to accomplish with jailbreak, though officially, you’ll be dealing with a laggy device and you have no option to use the iOS version of your choice…

      • mehrab

        No thats a definitive lie, windows 8 speeds up boot time by 60 percent but actual usage opening apps,multitasking etc is slower then windows 7 some people have reported windows 8 made their computer junk in performance google it and oh other then that jumping from ios 5 to 6 on my idevices made my 4s faster, ios 7 is SUPER fast on older hardware evn on an iphone 4 apple optimized it alot, just wait and play with it on the public release

      • Piyush

        Because windows XP was not optimize at all for hardware even If it was powerful or not you needed constant driver support , windows 8 is whole lot optimized now but this is different situation now ios was from optimized start and hardware of iphone 3g and 3gs are not powerful that much to handle all the feature eg ; multitasking on 256mb ram. try running windows 8 rt on 512mb and you tell me if its smooth or not and that also on dual 8 rt lags with 1gb ram and tegra 3 quad core.

      • What a self-contradicting comment. You claim iOS is optimized from the start, then you claim the hardware it’s running on isn’t strong enough? WTF is your definition of optimized? Either ways, I define optimized as the most efficient way of utilizing the resources.

        3rd party projects, like Whited00r, successfully brought most of the new iOS features to older devices without the lag. You mean to say third parties know iOS more than Apple?

      • mehrab

        Your wrong those features are laggy

      • Piyush

        i meant to say you are asking things like you want feature and optimization on limited hardware which is not possible without some drawback or cutoff , and whitedoor was buggy and laggy as hell.

      • Raashid

        How am I sure? Well guess what, I’ve used several gens of iOS devices. Every gen I have used, I have managed to get it running faster and smoother by removing nonsense system files (like MrElectrifyer mentioned), all without losing any of the benefits offered by iOS.

        If I can do that within an hour, why couldn’t it be done officially? To save time? Get real numbskull, they’re spending dozens of hours in court to put an end to competition, yet they don’t have an hour to remove those system hogging files?

      • mav3rick

        Because they want to take again from you their 60% profit on newer iPhone. Every iOS ver. is running perfectly on its corresponding iPhone launched together. Newer iOS will slow down intentionally older gen. iPhone. Because they can do it and because of the herd following them. User should be allowed to install any iOS ver., especially for the version launched at the same time with respective iPhone.

      • mehrab

        You will never have filesystems on ios bcos its confusing and the avg user doesnt need/want it, geeks however want it

      • Raashid

        Why is a file system needed to achieve this in a the stock ipsw? They could just exclude those files from whatever compilation software they use to make the .ipsw files. Yet they never did that, and I doubt iOS 7 is gonna be any different…

      • mehrab

        Ios is for the avg consumer want tinkering and hacking. Go android/jailbreak

      • Raashid

        Lol, you clearly lack English comprehension or just haven’t got a clue what a software compiler is…

      • seyss

        goddamn sheepshaggers

      • OMG

        funny how humans throw out troll when ever they argue with

    • mehrab

      Its a rumor, so what if its 31percent faster? The iphone 5 is faster then the htc one/gs4 anyway and btw the gpu will be 9x as much as the iphone 5 and will also have upgraded ram

      • Typing shit out your ass doesn’t make it factual, but never expected you to realise that…point is, iOS upgrades intentionally slow down your last year device so that Apple can claim that this years is 50% faster or twice as fast.

      • TesticularFortitude

        Are you really this stupid?

      • Are you really that ignoramus?

      • Definitely not true, per Geekbench scores

      • TesticularFortitude


      • Where’s your results comparing geek bench score of the 3G with iOS = 4? Comparing the 3GS with iOS = 5? Comparing the 4 with iOS = 6? Would love to see those…

      • RarestName


    • mehrab

      Ios 7 runs great so far on public release it”ll run beautifully my iphone 4s runs ios 7 perfectly oh btw you,me no one has played Around with the public ios 7 version so stop making assumptions

      • Not making assumtions out of nowhere, it’s past experience for several years of iOS devices and I don’t see what makes this any different. Ignore history, and it’ll just repeat itself….

    • seyss


    • n0ahcruz3

      *Grabs a popcorn* and watch lol

    • Piyush

      What do you expect with all this feature. but i have to say ipad2 and iphone 4s are still smooth as butter this recent beta , thats why apple minimizes feature according to hardware.Even android updates makes phone laggy eg , nexus s and galaxy nexus.

      • You calling unnecessary system-hogging files (like Launch Daemons) a feature? Official Android stuff sure makes phones laggy, ’cause they come with a ton of bloatware (from manufacturers and carriers). However, you have the straight forward option of asking google for custom (bloaware free) ROM, plus you can always restore to it regardless of which one is the latest…

      • Piyush

        which launch deamons hogging your iphone

      • Point is, you have the option to restore to any firmware of your choice, regardless which is the latest. These are 6 out of the 37 launch daemons I removed:

        * – Reminds the App Store to check for updates to installed applications. An option to disable this could have been easily provided under the AppStore section in settings, yet they didn’t.

        * – Creates logs of crashes, reboots, app launches etc. Perhaps those are to be sent to Apple, but I clearly turned off that option, so why must it keep running in the background?

        * – Deals with musical instrument accessories. Barely anyone has those, so why not provide option to disable it?

        * – This is used to monitor any incompatibilities with 3rd party chargers. Not like the iPhone can save you from electrocution by third party chargers…so, what’s the point of having it consuming system resources 24/7, besides for greedy purposes?

        * – A Voice Control daemon. Useless when I have Siri enabled.

        * – Starts the actual VoiceServices for Voice Control. This was the most system hogging launch daemon I removed, also useless when I have Siri enabled.

      • Piyush

        how do you know this are resource hog and most of them dont trigger unless you use them example ,, and is useful for developer and apple to fix ios issues , which is necessary to make ios device stable and there is jailbreak app which shows list of launch daemons currently running and i can tell you none of this runs.

      • How do I (and several other jailbreakers) know? It’s called common sense; when you remove a system file, reboot your device and you notice your device performance and/or average left-over ram noticeably increase, what do you think the file you removed was doing? Nothing?

        I’ve been satisfied with iOS 5.1.1 (though I’m stuck on 6.1.2) with jailbreak, so, I don’t see the need of Apple fixing any bug in it. Thus, the stuff that is useful for Apple to fix iOS issues, I clearly opted out of that (sending Diagnostics and Usage data to Apple) during fresh setup of my iPhone! What’s the point of still having the launch daemon running in the background? To ignore my choice and still send the data to Apple?

        BTW, which jailbreak tweak did you use to determine which launch daemons are running?

      • Piyush

        i have done that a lot and it didnt do anything other than reducing ram a little bit and i have told you some are useful deamon , i have removed 52 deamons from ios but nothing proved me wrong that this launch deamon are memory hog , if its feel your iphone is fast its just a placebo effect.prove me which of this running on background

      • The increase in RAM and speed are what we’re looking to accomplish. If you don’t notice the difference (especially after removing the voice control initiator), you’re probably using the latest available hardware, i5, for which iOS 6 is optimized. Or you’re just having some impassivity effect.

        BTW, you didn’t answer my question. I asked what jailbreak tweak do you use to determine which launch daemons are running? Or were you just claiming that out of nowhere?

      • Piyush

        i have been doing this from ios 4 dude.

    • OMG

      yes iOS7 will slow down the 5 to make consumers feel like they need to upgrade

  • Sigh

    Bite me Samsung? Those chips are made BY Samsung you stupid tard lmao.

    • Qiren_94

      The A7 chip, according to various reports, will most likely be made by a Taiwan semiconductor company called “TSMC”. The contract between Apple and Samsung ended with the iPhone 5 (A6) and has been recently been renewed and they will only continue producing chips for apple in the the iPhone 6 which will most likely use an A8 chip (or whatever they will call it at that time). Catch up with the news will ya?

      • Dressrosa

        You are wrong period. This is the code taken directly from ios 7 proving that the next gen is made by Samsung. TMSC is signed from the chip after the one that’s coming out on the 5S. 8950 is the A6. 8955 is A6X. TMSC is a constant rumor that happens every year. Catch up with the news will ya?

      • OMG

        manufactured by but not designed by

      • seyss

        you ppl should learn how to differentiate “designed by” and “manufactured by”. wealthy white american design stuff (brain) and poor chinese manufacture stuff (muscle)

      • mav3rick

        Guessing who is slow on caching news? This new A7 is same made by Samsung. apple cannot breath without them. And Samsung screen were the best on 4S.

      • Chindavon

        He’s saying Apple Designed the chip. Don’t matter who glued them together.

      • mav3rick

        It looks it matters big time. Otherwise they should have already found somebody else by now…

    • mehrab

      Not to mention the iphone 5 is faster then the gs4 in actual real world usage lol

      • Chindavon

        Yes. Got to love the GS4 fake benchmarks.

      • mehrab

        Yes, but no its never about benchmarks,specs. its about which phine is consistent and opens apps faster does better mutitasking and has better graphics in games. Rught now its the iphone 5 how is it faster and smoother then the gs4 /htc one bcos it has better optimized software and apps and the gpu on the iphone 5 is stringer ios does not require alot of cpu,ram. I win both 3 phones well the gs4 is my brothers

      • OMG

        the iphone5 is the best phone and the most popular phone … androids are always like PCs with super high spec numbers but crappy usability compared to macs

      • mehrab

        True, androids and pc”s lack quality :/

  • Rode

    Zibreg’s articles and the comments that follow them are hilarious. They always make me laugh.

    • mav3rick

      Kinda troll articles… To start flames… Lame… Look at the article picture. He still needed the stupid line bashing Samsung on the chip…

  • leart za jmi

    iPhone 5C looks nice, i am planing to get one and finally to use a iphone without case ;P

    • Palmer Paul

      didn’t even think of that 🙂

  • Finite

    Is Christian even capable of writing an article that doesn’t start flame wars lol? The comments sections on all his articles is always a warzone. I don’t know if it’s him or just an indication of what type of people read iDB.

    • mav3rick

      Kinda troll articles… To start flames… Lame… Look at the article
      picture. He still needed the stupid line bashing Samsung on the chip…

    • RarestName

      TechnoBuffalo already has 150 comments, and counting.

  • Farbod

    But… The a6 was 100% faster than the a5… Same with a4.

  • Guest

    is this 2x for you?

  • seyss

    is this 2x for you? (A6 over A5)

  • Dante Arellano

    So we will have a iPhone 5s or iPhone 6??? A new iPhone made of plastic and neon colors?? Where is come from all this shite???

    • OMG

      6 will be next year with a complete redesign

  • StarViruZ

    Cool, maybe iphone 5C worth it. A6, 8mp camera, but… what’s the trap?

    • D.

      Memory. Probably only 8 or 16 gig.

  • Ahmad Abdullatif

    I hope the 5s iphone come with 12 mixapicel camera not 8.

    • OMG

      i am sure the camera will be better but im not expecting much

  • n0ahcruz3

    “Sources who spoke with an anchor for fox news channel..”

    I stopped there. 😛

  • Altechi

    Seriously, just grow up zibreg. You make it hard for me read your news without having to do a faceplam.

    The other writers can do it, why can’t you?

  • 3aloo1

    Wait a minute… the iphone 5 cheap version is heavier than iphone 5s

    • OMG

      yes cause its more bulky

  • 3aloo1

    If the iPhone 5c is nice definitely i will buy it

  • 3aloo1

    The rumors are better and better

  • batongxue

    Actually I was expecting more.

  • anu

    Great post It’s like saying Digit printer or Analog Printer is same because it does same thing.its not stealing if u are doing something new .

  • Ishaan Malhotra

    Bite me samsung!!

  • laszlo gaspar

    “Bite me Samsung”, just classic

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  • rasengan720 .

    sweet jesus!! the speed it will have!! hope it surpasses the s4.. 🙂

  • OMG

    So 5C = redesigned 5… that price is still too high tho..

  • TeChNoStyLeZ

    Do we know how many cores the A7 chip is gonna have ? I HOPE not dual
    core again because I was planing to get the i5s but only if it gets a
    quad core chip. 2 cores are just not acceptable because all other flagships have 4-8 cores

  • Frozen Bee .GFKS

    Soo, am I missing something or Beta 7 isn’t out yet? I saw post about it 6 days ago,but still waiting…they claimed it should be just with minor fixes,but my iP4 is still pretty glitchy,so GM version better have some huuuuge updates…

  • bigzjoseph

    “Bite me, Samsung”