Google would love to work with Apple on making messaging more interoperable

By , Jun 2, 2016

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Google CEO Sundar Pichai sat down for an interview with technology columnist Walt Mossberg at Code Conference yesterday. Fresh off Google’s annual developer conference, which was big on artificial intelligence, the executive discussed a range of topics from Android to competition to digital assistants to artificial intelligence and beyond.

Pichai also expressed hope that big technology companies can work together on making their proprietary messaging services more interoperable.

Asked to clarify Google’s position on messaging and the question of interoperability, Sundar responded:

I would love to see messaging services be more interoperable. Apple iOS users should be able to message Android users and vice versa. Maybe I’m making an ask here. The big companies could work together.

So, I’d like to see more of that, too.

Google’s convoluted messaging offering

One thing became clear during the Google I/O 2016 keynote: the company’s new approach to messaging is ‘try everything’ even if that means sending a convoluted message with the announcement of two new apps for iOS and Android: Allo for instance messaging and Duo for one-to-one video chatting.

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These two apps are in addition to Google’s existing messaging and VoIP solutions that include Gmail chat, Hangouts, Google Voice and more. The question of interoperability, however, is one that has been preoccupying the industry for a long time.

Remember when FaceTime was supposed to become open standard?

When Apple announced FaceTime for iOS during the 2010 iPhone 4 introduction, Steve Jobs made a public promise that his company would work with standard bodies and carriers to eventually make FaceTime an open standard.

Apple has yet to make good on Steve’s promise.

WWDC 2010 keynote (iPhone 4, FaceTime 003)

The lack of interoperability of iMessage and FaceTime won’t affect much the likes who’re perfectly content living inside the confines of Apple’s walled garden.

But even those users would benefit from being able to, say, send iMessages to their non-Apple friends or, for example, receive FaceTime calls from their Android friends.

What’s your position on porting iMessage and Face Time to Android?

Source: Re/code

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  • Charles222

    Would love to have both on Android; My phone & laptop are a Droid Turbo and a Retina. There’s some things that’ll let you have some intercommunication between them (Google Drive and Pushbullet, mainly) but I’d love to see, say, a service that drops your Android phone number directly into Facetime and Messages on a Mac.

  • Ricky Williams

    If you’re going to talk about Apple’s promise to make FaceTime open then you should elaborate on the fact that a patent troll is suing them for the technology used for Facetime. You are doing a dis-service to your readers by giving only half the story. Then readers get mad at Apple when they should really be mad at the Patent Trolls who are why we can’t have great things.

    • Impreza

      Growing up the first few things you are taught in life is to always keep your promises. Sadly the ‘disservice’ you speak of doesn’t apply. Apple made a promise 6 years ago, this patent dispute is barely 6 minutes old.
      Do you keep your promises or jump to the defence of those that don’t?

      • igorsky

        Good job of countering his factual argument with some childish nonsense.

      • Impreza

        Childish nonsense indeed, if the President of America makes a promise and doesn’t follow through, do you think people just forget about it and treat is as trivial. Wake up to yourself.

    • This lawsuit happened two years after Steve Jobs said Apple would make FaceTime an open standard. Clearly the lawsuit you’re referring to has nothing to do with this, especially considering the lawsuit come from a patent troll. Rumor has it, that Jobs added this bit in the keynote at the last minute despite everybody telling him not to. It was a mistake by Apple. Jobs just spoke too fast.

  • Sailor_V90

    I’m here for interoperability, I encourage it! I feel if Google and Apple came together they could do some really amazing things.

  • Impreza

    Three sentences from the end you have used an offensive derogatory term used to describe a promiscuous person, please fix.

    • Rob

      Yeah I read it that way the first time lol funny how you’re trying to point it out sounding all posh

      • Impreza

        Rob, being polite towards an offensive derogatory term does not make one posh. There are female readers to this site and regardless why should they put up with the term being thrown around. Call me discrete not posh. 🙂

      • Rob

        I only took the time to write that 1) to agree with u that I read it the way u did, 2) to pick apart something u said cus it seemed like u were picking apart not just the article but everyone’s comments. And 3) just for fun 😉 don’t be annoying dude.

        Also, one doesn’t have to be female to find that term derogatory, & I think it’s a safe bet that nobody thought Christian actually meant it that way, or that anybody would realistically be offended by the use of the word ‘prostitute’ to explain the mistake in the text. I think you’re the only one that didn’t have a little laugh when reading it.

        You obviously find it emotionally satisfying to try to correct or oppose anything anybody says so I expect you’ll respond to this too so knock your socks off cus I won’t respond back. Just know this, you’re the name everyone dreads to see. Do u really wanna be ‘that guy’?

      • Impreza

        Fair enough.

  • RuddyN

    No way.. Keep iMessage and FaceTime to the iOS devices. This is what sets them apart from the other competitors. Sure you can make an app for better interoperability, but the features that are unique to the iDevices should remain so.

    • Impreza

      What unique features? Seeing the face of someone in a facetime call and hearing their voices should remain exclusive to idevices.

      • igorsky

        iMessage seemlessly blends internal messaging protocols with SMS, something Google has yet to figure out. So I’d say, yeah, that’s very unique.

  • igorsky

    Sounds like Google is hoping Apple can help them figure out how messaging works.

    • Impreza

      By lynchpin you mean deleting peoples messages when they transfer to another operating system or rendering them inaccessible whereby a class action was taken against apple? Let’s call it a ‘unique lynchpin’ and it will serve both our purposes ok. 🙂

      • mike

        show me one client side messaging app that transfers message history to a new operating system, because none of them do. keep In mind that i say client side, and not one with a server backup. iMessage history is preserved because it has a server backup, SMS history isn’t because it doesn’t have backup, if it did, that would be the responsibility of your service provider (which, you can request your text history).

        the lawsuit were filed by stupid people that don’t understand communication protocols, or how software between two rivals works, that didn’t take proper care to remove their phone number from syncing with apples servers/protocols.

        take it as this: how does you neighbor know to stop getting your mail for you if you don’t tell him to stop? the same with apple, how are they going to know that you switched O/Ss and no longer need their service if you don’t let them know (i.e. disassociating your account with them)?a

      • Impreza

        That’s a good point.

  • Impreza

    It may as well have been 6 seconds (about your attention span), make a promise or don’t make a promise. A company or a person are only as good as their word. That still means something in today’s society. The reason we tack on the word ‘promise’ is abundantly clear to those with integrity and morals. Here you are trying to counter that point, at least we know your intergrity and moral fibre.

  • Impreza

    Read the articles Einstein, 2013 (3 years) after the promise was made the complaint was made. Yes SMH indeed.

  • Arthur Geron

    in other words woud love to spy on Apple’s messaging services.