OS X Yosemite (Continuity, Phone Call)

As we told you earlier in the morning, general public can get a taste of Apple’s upcoming OS X 10.10 Yosemite desktop operating system for Macs by signing up for a public beta over at the OS X Beta Program webpage starting tomorrow.

The company has said that the public beta will only open to the first million applicants so you better sign up now if you haven’t already. Here are a few things you should know if you plan on taking Yosemite for a spin…

For starters, the public beta program is voluntary, so don’t expect any compensation from Apple for your participation. Installing the beta software does not void your hardware warranty.

As Apple puts it, participating in the OS X Beta Program can “help make the next release of OS X our best yet.”

Jim Dalrymple of The Loop has learned a few interesting facts related to the public beta during his meeting earlier this week with Apple representatives. In addition, Apple provides a few tips of its own via the OS X Beta Program webpage.

Here are your key takeaways:

  1. To sign up for the OS X Beta Program, you only need to provide your Apple ID. When it’s ready, Apple will email you a redemption code to download and install the most recent OS X Yosemite Beta through the Mac App Store.
  2. Installing the public beta requires a Mac running OS X Mavericks, available free of charge on the Mac App Store as a 5.32GB download.
  3. The public Yosemite beta is the same version released to developers on Monday. Both the public beta and the final version coming this Fall will be free to download.
  4. You can upgrade right through all the public betas into the final release through the software update mechanism built-in to OS X. No reformat or restore will be required to upgrade from a beta to the final Yosemite version.
  5. Apple will, however, update the developer version of Yosemite more frequently over the next few months than the public beta version.
  6. It’s a beta – not all features will work as expected.
  7. Since iOS 8 is not part of the public beta program, some Yosemite features that require iOS 8 may not work for those who don’t run iOS 8, such as Handoff, the ability to make and take phone calls via FaceTime on your Mac, SMS in the Messages app, AirDrop between Yosemite and iOS 8, Instant Hotspot and iCloud Drive.
  8. To file bug reports, use the built-in Feedback Assistant app.
  9. Spotlight suggestions are currently U.S.-only. Also, some of your favorite apps and services may not be compatible with Yosemite.
  10. If you decide to migrate to iCloud Drive, documents stored in iCloud Drive will sync only between Macs running the OS X Yosemite beta and iPhones, iPads and iPods running iOS 8. If you stay on iCloud, syncing will work across all devices and operating system.

To leave the program, visit the Leave Program page and follow the instructions to remove your Apple ID from the OS X Beta Program.

Although the latest Yosemite beta is surprisingly stable (for a beta), Apple advises against installing it on your work machine because things can go wrong and you don’t want your precious data be held hostage of beta hiccups.

You can perform a clean install of Yosemite or, preferably, deploy it on a separate partition, which will allow you to dual-boot Mavericks and Yosemite on a single Mac.

Our own Jeff Benjamin has put together a nice video tutorial showing how to install OS X 10.10 Yosemite beta on a separate partition. Either way, I recommend performing a full Time Machine backup prior to installing Yosemite so you can roll back in case something goes wrong.

What if you change your mind and want to return to a shipping version of OS X?

According to Apple, wait until the final version of OS X Yosemite is available as you’ll be able to install it over your current beta installation.

The impatient types who’ve installed Yosemite’s public beta on a separate partition can simply hold the Option key when restarting their machine, or use Startup Disk in System Preferences, to boot Mavericks instead.

Another option: restore from the previously created Time Machine backup.

If you must remove the beta software from your computer, you will need to erase, install, and restore the Time Machine backup of Mavericks that you created before you installed the OS X Yosemite Beta.

Any changes to your files and documents since you installed the OS X Yosemite Beta will not be preserved when restoring your Mavericks backup, so be sure to copy any new or changed files before you begin restoring from your Mavericks backup.

ArsTechnica and The Verge have exhaustive hands-on articles on the software so give them a read to learn more, or consult out own archive of Yosemite articles.

Other resources I’d recommend: Apple’s FAQ related to the OS X Beta Program and MacWorld’s exhaustive article on installing the public beta.

So, who’s going to install Yosemite tomorrow?

  • hkgsulphate

    1. it is a beta

    • lee scott

      1-9, It’s a BETA! 10: Read 1-9 again.

      • cardenaso10

        10 PRINT “It’s a beta”
        20 GOTO 10

      • BETAAAAAAAAA

  • Chris Gilmore

    How do I do a clean install of this? I’m also getting a grey screen with a lock and password request when I do Command+R or Option on boot and I never set this. Apple wants me to take my MacBook Pro to a store but there isn’t one within about 350 miles so that’s not a real option.

    • The grey screen with a lock and password is because you’ve enabled FileVault encryption on your boot disk, this is normal

      • Chris Gilmore

        Nope. I didn’t set a password and it’s called a firmware password.

      • What happens if you boot to Mavericks (or whatever your current version of OS X is) and go to System Preferences –> Security & Privacy –> FileVault

      • Chris Gilmore

        I don’t have FileVault enabled at all. I have Yosemite right now on my actual Macbook internal hard drive. I cannot go to any boot screen on start up because it immediately goes to the locked screen asking for that firmware password. However, I JUST recently installed Yosemite by doing the same exact thing and it did not have the password. But now that I’m wanting to downgrade to Mavericks, I cannot get to the boot screen. I’m at a loss and have no idea what to do. I’ve looked up everything I could and found no solutions. Somebody please help.

      • You’ll have to take it to an Apple Store and prove it’s your Mac. If you don’t have the password Apple will have to reset it for you…

    • Litchy

      Did you buy the Mac as a new one or is it a used one? If you bought a used one it is possible that you have a EFI-Password set from the pre-owner. It is impossible to reset that password without certain tools only Apple Employees have access to. They will reset it for you if you can prove it’s you mac. If you don’t have any documents to prove it you better get started asking the pre owner for the password or else you’ll have to live with a locket Bootmenu…

      I had exactly that problem after the police found my stolen MacBook. The thief set a EFI-Password and I had to drive to the next Apple Store to reset it… Even the first 3 Geniuses did not know that it’s possible to set a EFI-Password O_o

      • Chris Gilmore

        Mine was bought brand new by me.

      • Toni

        Just a thought: perhaps it was refurbished? Stranger things have happened.

      • Chris Gilmore

        Nope :/ like I said, I have done this same boot just a month ago from Mavericks to Yosemite and it worked fine. Now it doesn’t

      • Litchy

        Then try deactivating FileVault while logged in (In the Settings App -> Security). If you don’t use FileVault then that lock most likely means you have an EFI-Password set. If you didn’t set it and It was not there a few weeks ago… then someone pranked you and set that password without you knowing. Can’t think of another way that could happen.

      • Chris Gilmore

        Unfortunately I know for a fact nobody has pranked me. But thanks for the help everyone.

      • DogeCoin

        Trying clearning pram and cms when you boot up, that might help.

      • Chris Gilmore

        How?

      • Litchy

        I’ve got an idea!
        Log in to your Yosemite OS, plug in your Mavericks Install USB Device, go to system preferences, hit Startup Volume, choose your Mavericks USB Device and hit restart. Now you should be able to install Mavericks without having to type in the EFI Password ;D

        Just remembered I did it that way. Maybe the EFI-Password is gone after Mavericks installed? Either way you’ll have a working Mavericks OS again

      • Chris Gilmore

        Thank you. I will try it asap

      • Chris Gilmore

        Did you mean start up disk?

      • Litchy

        Yes I did, sorry^^

      • Chris Gilmore

        Do you think I could erase my partition and replace it with the Mavericks dmg?

      • Litchy

        This is how I would do it:
        Do these steps at your own risk.
        1) Start up Yosemite
        2) Download Mavericks
        3) Make a bootable USB Device for installing Mavericks (there are plenty of Tutorials for that)
        4) Open up system preferences and hit “Startup Disk”
        5) Choose the Mavericks USB Install Drive
        6) Press the restart Button and type in your admin password if asked for it
        7) When your Mac reboots and wants to install Mavericks search for the “Disk Utility” App somewhere in the status bar menus and open it
        8) Choose your hard drive where Yosemite is installed
        9) This step is important do not mess this up:
        – Read everything before going on
        – We want to erase the hard drive with Yosemite on it
        – Once you erased it there is no going back and you have to install Mavericks right away using your USB-drive
        – If you turn off your Mac after erasing Yosemite (and before installing Mavericks) you can’t bypass the EFI-Password anymore and therefore can’t boot from your USB-drive or anything else!
        – Now that you know that you can continue:
        –> erase the Yosemite Partition
        10) Head right back to the Mavericks setup without rebooting and install Mavericks on the fresh hard drive
        11) Voila – you’ve got a fresh Mavericks without anything left from Yosemite

      • Chris Gilmore

        Thanks a LOT for your help. I will be doing this ASAP! Thanks for not treating me like a dumbass like a certain person in this thread did. lol

      • Chris Gilmore

        I’m having a hard time finding a DMG for Mavericks because I can’t use the one apple provided since I have a “later version of OSX and don’t need the old version”

      • Litchy

        Sorry maybe a bit late but:
        Normally you can still download Mavericks via the AppStore on your Mac with Yosemite installed. I can do that simply by going to my purchases in the AppStore and hitting Download next to Mavericks. You get asked wether you are sure or not because you have a “more advanced” system installed.

        After your download is complete use a tool to make a bootable USB drive (search for tutorials with google)

      • Chris Gilmore

        It wouldn’t let me download Mavericks. But now I have clean system with the public beta as my system. Works perfect. I just created a second partition, installed Yosemite, and then deleted the first partition.

    • Kr00

      This is why people who have no clue in what they’re doing shouldn’t get their hands on beta software. You never, ever, ever install a beta over your main OS. You can’t expect sympathy for doing this without knowing what you’re getting yourself into. Did you do a back up of your previous system? Boot into recovery mode and go from there.

      • Guest

        Man, u

      • Denus

        We don’t need your sympathy smart@ss….

      • Kr00

        I wasn’t offering any, and who is “We”? You and your boyfriend?

      • assimilachrome

        i just installed the beta after installing maverix on a 2011 macbook pro – it’s all locked up. what’s the deal?

      • Kr00

        You’re asking me, like I actually give a shit? Perhaps Karma has come to visit. All running wonderfully smooth over here btw.

      • assimilachrome

        crap i tried unlocking it w my iPhone 6 and now that is locked up with it. what should I do??

      • Kr00

        Pull your head out of your ass and go back under your bridge.

      • assimilachrome

        is there a cable you’d recommend that might help??

  • Mike M. Powell

    Only if they done this with iOS 8 >.< I'm still going for the OSX-Y beta though thanks apple ^-^

  • AirDrop between Yosemite and iOS 7 works fine.

    • Jerry Le N. Fondamental

      Really?

      • James M.

        Yes it does, I can share photos on both iOS 7 and OS X Yosemite

    • Pauletronic

      i can’t! what am i doing wrong?

  • Tarek

    Me , can’t wait!

  • mrmaster198

    Be sure to partition your hard drive too. I installed yosemite a couple of weeks ago and made a 30gb partition so i can run mavericks and yosemite. Many apps on yosemite still don’t work so unless you want to deal with restoring and time machine i suggest partitioning your hard drive from between 30-50 gb.

    • Joseph Oliveira

      I’d make it a little bigger. Like 100GB. You may want to try some of your install files to make sure it works.

  • Decio Arruda

    Please, can anybody tell me if Logic Pro 9 works fine on this OS? It’s something I depend on and I don’t have enough space to install it on a partition.

    • “Apple advises against installing it on your work machine because things can go wrong and you don’t want your precious data be held hostage of beta hiccups.”

      The point is clear. Wait till the final release.

      • Kr00

        Or install the beta on a partition or external drive. It donate affect your main OS or data.

      • Joseph Oliveira

        External Drive be better than a Partition one. You’ll notice some slowness though.

      • Kr00

        It then defeats the purpose of testing the OS’s performance capabilities, and it won’t have total access to computer hardware as the main system does. Hence my advise on partitioning.

    • appleiphonetechuk

      Yes it does, used it on the first beta

      • Decio Arruda

        Thank you so much. Did you have any 3rd party plugins?

  • Foellarbear

    Glad the OS is getting more stable, but I think I’ll wait till the final release.

  • Armed in the Villa

    I’m a dev and the latest beta has been really stable for me. Adobe CS5 and CS6 Creative Cloud work for me and so far it’s been fine on my production machine (I have other Macs in the office just in case it wasn’t, though)

    There are some weird little UI issues, like in the Network control panel when you go to the TCP/IP tab, it’s all jumbled (at least on mine it is)

    I still stand by the fact that this is the most stable beta release of an OS I’ve had the please of testing.

    • Nick Gertler

      Thanks for the mention of CC. I’m hoping to get into the beta but if I do I’d be worried that my Adobe apps would break. Glad to hear that they seem to be working.

  • Rot Kelfer

    I’ve been using this since the first beta and I haven’t had any issues whatsoever. The only software that does not work is Cleanmymac, everything else works absolutely fine – some may crash from time to time but it’s nothing serious and it is not a bother.

    • Jerry Le N. Fondamental

      iPhoto does’t work on mine 🙁

      • iPhoto 9.5 has worked fine on mine since the first developer preview release. Maybe you’re using an older version of iPhoto?

  • Marcos Frazão

    no, i need a stable working system to work.
    i can wait

    • It is actually very stable. I would never recommend using it as your main OS but if you have 15+ GB of space you can probably create another partition to install Yosemite onto. That way you’d have the benefit of still being able to use your current operating system and try Yosemite…

    • Joseph Oliveira

      That’s why it’s called BETA! It won’t be Stable until Final Release Date.. and even still it may not be stable. OS X 10.9 ran horrible for me on my rMBP.

  • Saudor

    ” If you stay on iCloud, syncing will work across all devices and operating system.”

    This doesn’t work with iCloud documents as far as i can tell

    • Truc

      Just don’t migrate to iCloud Drive, all your current app with I iCloud document data will not be obtained by any of your iOS devices. This is meant for testing purpose for now, not for normal users. Apple is still working on that beta and you might loose all date at any point. Once you migrate to iCloud Drive, you can never switch back.

  • James Gunaca

    I can confirm AirDrop from Yosemite to iOS 7 does in fact work, but in a limited capacity. It does not, however, work the other way around.

  • Monreal Michael

    hold the Option key “ALT” when you hear the chime on boot. You will have a recovery partition, i suppose.

    • Litchy

      Resetting the EFI-Password by your self (changing RAM etc.) does not work anymore with 2011 or newer models. You have to take it to a apple store with your proof of purchase and explain them that the EFI-Password must be reset. If they don’t know what you mean, tell them to call someone who does. Eventually they will reset it for you. I had to do that once too so I know it works that way

  • Monreal Michael

    You can also reset the password using single-user-mode “Verbose” Verbose mode helps repair permissions on the disk, aside with 90% of the software related issues.

    • Joseph Oliveira

      He’s having an EFI-Password issue. Single-user mode Verbose does not fix that. It’s embedded in Hardware. Not in OS X.

  • Monreal Michael

    In the worse case, you will have to open your mac, remove the DIMMs and you are set

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  • Chris

    For those who want to install it I would recommend creating a 50GB partition if you plan to use it heavily so you can delete it later on when it’s released to the public.

    I’ve had the developer versions running since day 1 on a partition and it was the smartest choice due to the amount of bugs it had and still has.

  • Chris Gilmore

    So what exactly will this do? And another question: Can I just freshly install this public beta of Yosemite? I just basically want my Macbook Pro to be basically completely brand new. I’ve backed up all my photos, files, EVERYTHING so I’m ready to do it. I just don’t know how.

    • DogeCoin

      Basically it reset small bits of semi important data (boot up chime volume, boot up disk, etc) . The data itself is setting for starting up the little stuff, it’s all fine and dandy when it work, but when it gets currupted, that when real bad stuff happens. While there isn’t a clear link to it causing your firmware password, it is one if the only things you can do right now. You can freely reset it since it’ll just go back to default settings and doesn’t touch any personal data, or any data in your HDD/SDD for that fact.

    • Kr00

      Don’t be such a fool. Don’t reinstall a beta over the mess you created. Get Mavericks onto a USB stick and go back. What you’ve done is so idiotic, and you want to do even more stupid things to get out of it? FFS!!

  • Shravster

    How will the battery be on a macbook air(latest) after installing the Public beta of Yosemite?Are there any heating issues? Will i get the 12 hrs battery or will it be lesser as it is still beta? As i am not a heavy user and all i do is browse the web is it ok to upgrade to yosemite without installing on a partition ? Please advice..

    • Kr00

      It won’t change the battery itself, but how the system reads the battery does differ between betas and GM releases. There are no over clocking issues on this beta.

  • Kr00

    Actually, the Public Beta is a different build to DP4. The public beta is a later build , OS X 10.10 (14A299i) where as the DP4 Beta is OS X 10.10 (14A298i)

  • Kr00

    Not iCloud beta. If you turn on iCloud Drive service under a beta build, it won’t take you to your regular iCloud services. Before each beta update, Apple purges the iCloud Drive servers of all your data. I would advise against turning on iCloud Drive in this public beta.

  • Kr00

    You did this to yourself, so don’t blame anyone but yourself. If you don’t know what you’re doing, don’t install beta software over a current system. No sympathy from me I’m afraid.

    • Chris Gilmore

      Lol how sad are you? I know exactly what I’m doing. If you ever Google my problem, you’ll see that I am not the only one this has happened to. I’m not asking for your sympathy, I’m asking for suggestions on help and THANKFULLY there are plenty of people NOT like you that are willing to provide some help and I appreciate all of them.

      • Kr00

        If you know what you are doing, then why are you crying out for advice here? Seriuosly, you clearly don’t know what you are doing. Any beta tester or developer worth their salt, wouldn’t do what you have done.

        Here’s some advice you can take to the bank. Don’t install beta software over your existing system.

        I hope you’ve learned a valuable lesson here. Don’t jump the gun. Sorry you don’t like to hear the hard message but in life, you have to accept the things you do unto yourself. Don’t shoot the messenger. I bet you won’t do it again, right?

      • Chris Gilmore

        Lol you take this shit way too seriously bro. Have a good one.

      • Denus

        Kr00: wtf is your problem? Are you THAT frustrated?

        Chris: I have the same issue: no passwords set and unlocking works for every preference setting except for Security & Privacy. I guess this is still in a early beta stage or something. We’ll have to wait till the next update I’m afraid.

      • Kr00

        No, I just have no patience for morons who install beta OS’s over their main system, then bitch about it when things don’t work. Some people need to, a) Grow a brain, and b) Grow the fück up and stop being whiny little bitches when they make mistakes, and cry on forums like this one, and learn to take criticism for the dumb things they do, and if that includes you, then fine. This guy may as well have posted, “I’m a stupid moron, I don’t know what I’m doing, somebody has to help me”!

      • Carlos

        You’re a nasty piece of work

      • Kr00

        No, just a realist with no time for time wasters. Have an issue? Use a tissue.

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  • Joseph Oliveira

    1. DON’T INSTALL OS X 10.10 BETA ON YOUR PRIMARY MACHINE!

    2. DON’T BITCH AND COMPLAIN that such and such Application doesn’t work.

    I’m hoping OS X 10.10 is better than OS X 10.9. 10.9 was so buggy when it was released.

  • Aaron de Silva

    Anyone know how to fix iCloud drive from appearing empty in finder ? The restart fix doesn’t seem to work for me…