Geohot says ‘nothing sketchy’ found in reversing evasi0n7 jailbreak

By , Dec 24, 2013

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It’s been an interesting couple of days in the jailbreak world. Not only did the evad3rs surprise everyone with an iOS 7 jailbreak early Sunday morning, but there was all this drama surrounding the release which included a new app store and the resurfacing of Geohot.

After a long break, Geohot’s name popped back up this weekend with reports that he was working on his own jailbreak. He obviously didn’t get a chance to release it, but he did manage to reverse the evad3r’s evasi0n7 app and he says he didn’t find anything sketchy…

Here’s an excerpt from his lengthy writeup, which he linked to on his Twitter account late last night:

“This writeup takes place from the perspective of evasi0n7. F*ck secrets. Note that this writeup doesn’t help Apple, I got this by reversing the public evasi0n binary, which they can, and do do. Also note, I found nothing sketchy in my reversing, your phones most likely aren’t being backdoored by Chinese. If I ever touch jailbreaking again, which is unlikely(until ARM128 comes out, I only touched the game again for the love of ARM64), no more secrets. Full disclosure time, I was working on a public, free of charge, china not involved, old school jailbreak with a few others. evad3rs released first. That jailbreak overlapped this one 80%, partly due to leaks, but mainly due to the exploits and methodology being the obvious choice(great minds, well you know), meaning the exploits won’t be usable next time. No more jailbreaks ever?”

So a few things of note here. First, the fact that Geohot says he didn’t find anything sketchy bodes well for the folks who were spooked by rumors that the Chinese app store TaiG included in evasi0n7 featured hidden code that sent private user information back to China.

And second, that Geohot says he was working on a free-of-charge jailbreak conflicts with reports that he was working on a deal to sell his work to a company for $350,000. He says it was never going to happen, but you can hear a leaked recording of the negotiations here.

Nevertheless, this writeup is impressive—even more so that he says he did it while on a plane from San Francisco to New York—and will hopefully put any remaining fears to bed. If you’re into this sort of thing, you can read the entire thing here on Geohot’s website.

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  • vs511

    So he came back because of 64-bit? Wish he was still an active member. 128-bit is far away even for computers, let alone mobile phones. Anyway, I’m sort of glad that Evasi0n is clean.

    • Abdl

      Hahahaha… 128-bit phone,expect that by the yr 2050

      • Matt Taylor

        I think you’ll be surprised… The rate technology is advancing these days!

      • Steven Code

        Give it 5 years anyone wanna take beats?

      • thetomthebomb

        Probably next year hahaha

      • billypuntove

        like Beats by Dre?

      • Steven Code

        Haha damn you thought nobody was gonna noticed lol

      • Connor K.

        Way before 2050.

      • Maxim∑

        We already have 256 bit in servers so it might be even sooner

      • Cyber Putz

        You do not know what you are talking about.

      • Maxim∑

        Just because you have the name cyber in your username doesn’t make you special.

        Intel 4040 look it up

      • Guest

        Are you trolling? That’s a 256-byte processor.

      • Maxim∑

        nope, not in a beowulf cluster with VILWM modules

      • Gray

        The Intel 4040 was released back in the 70′s and is not a 256-bit processor. We have some 128-bit and 256-bit architecture but it’s all non-consumer electronics and has no real viability in applications outside of what they were initially engineered for. 64-bit is the highest we currently have in practical applications, such as computing and server electronics as we know today. It’ll be another 10-15 years before we see 128-bit architecture in the Intel or AMD processors we have now.

  • Dontwannaknow

    I jailbroke and restored back because no good tweak works. I don’t want to jailbreak for nothing.
    Anyway, glad that Evasion7 is safe.

    • ✪ aidan harris ✪

      Apps work but not tweaks that rely on mobile substrate. Anything that doesn’t rely on mobile substrate should work fine so it’s a bit of an overstatement to say that just because mobile substrate doesn’t work yet there’s no point jailbreaking…

      • Rowan09

        What happens if 7.0.5 comes out and patch the hole? I jalibroke my phone just in case, when Cydia gets updated it will most likely be an update from Cydia itself.

      • At

        This jailbreak works through 7.1. That being said, now that Apple is saying 7.1 won’t be released til march now, maybe they are working to block this jailbreak now.

      • Rowan09

        Oh didn’t know that. Nevertheless it doesn’t hurt jailbreaking especially for moviebox.

      • 4p0c4lyps3

        Ya and mobile substrate will more than likely be updated promptly.

      • RarestName

        It’s hard to find tweaks that don’t rely on MobileSubstrate. Only a few like f.lux can work independently.

      • Omar Yasser

        If tweaks that rely on mobile substrate doesn’t work on your iDevice, Just re-install Mobile Substrate… From my own experience, everytime you reboot mobile substrate will break. All you need is re-install it and restart springboard..

      • RarestName

        Right, try doing that on an iPhone 5s, iPad Air or iPad Mini (2013). It won’t work.

        f.lux works.

      • Guest

        Just re-install Mobile Substrate & Restart Springboard..

    • somaxd

      is it jailbreaking for nothing though? id have it jailbroken just to be safe for the future… dont know exactly how restoring and everything works anymore (just recently went from iphone 4 to iphone 5s) so being sure i can restore for sure to 7.0.4 and jailbreak is not for nothing imo.

    • RarestName

      The first thing that I installed was XBMC. It works perfectly.

    • Omar Yasser

      Just re-install Mobile Substrate & Restart Springboard…

  • Hadi

    He was working on a free of charge jailbreak, then a deal comes up, he negotiated with the middle man, the deal didn’t happen. He wasn’t neither planning to charge anyone for the jailbreak, nor bound with the Chinese, He was going to sell his work, and there’s nothing wrong with it. Your website is always taking sides. Now it takes evad3rs side and tries to beat Geohot and Saurik or anyone else who involved in jailbreak community but wasn’t evad3rs!

  • Xee

    What does he mean no more jailbreaks ever?

    • ✪ aidan harris ✪

      Sarcasm? Naivety? Perhaps he means he isn’t going to release a jailbreak again? Who knows? Only Geohot knows…

  • MHCsk

    I think that evad3rs would never have bundled any malware in the jailbreak, they’re not a**holes. Only in case TaiG would have released the jailbreak themselves I would be suspicious. Anyway it’s kinda cool that there is a little competition on the scene, but also sad what money can do.

    • RarestName

      The only thing I was worried about was what TaiG could have done to the evasi0n package. Not doubting the Evad3rs in any way at all.

  • Pranav Shankar

    I think a lot of people owe the evaders an apology. Some of those tweets and comments were brutal.

    • ap3604

      Dumb paranoid types (“omg the chinese are stealing my data!”) need to be rounded up out back and taken care of.

      Those people can feel free to apologize to the evad3rs by never opening their uneducated mouths again…

  • DannyPrecise

    That was a very disjointed, rambling, statement.

  • Hyr3m

    Is it just me or does he look a bit like the alledged Aurora shooter ?

    • marquise3

      That’s the first thing that popped in my head too!!!

  • 4p0c4lyps3

    Hats off and kudos to the evad3rs!!!!! Cheers mates!

  • diggitydang

    Anyone have a permanent status bar when viewing videos and photos in full screen after jailbreaking? The status bar background disappears in full-screen but information on status bar stays. It’s on both my 5s and iPad Mini Retina. Annoying… Is it just me? Sorry if this is not the right place to ask… I did think this was a bit err, sketchy! (Just joking).

    • Tom Brady

      My carrier name and time n battery won’t disappear anymore

      • diggitydang

        I got all my status bar info on mine, including the time. Not just me then, thanks!

      • Tom Brady

        Yea I’m thinking of restoring it

      • Guest

        Did you use over-the-air updates, or restore / install 7.0.x directly from iTunes? I originally JB’ed an installation that I had updated over the air and it was buggy. Did a clean re-install/restore and JB’ed again.

    • czbird

      Working fine on my mini retina.

      • diggitydang

        Whew! I almost started to restore one device to see! That’s the same issue I have then. Thanks for updating!

  • ap3604

    Dumb paranoid types (“omg the chinese are stealing my data!”) need to be rounded up out back and taken care of.

    Feel free to apologize to the evad3rs by never opening your uneducated mouths again. Thanks :)

    • Freddy Born

      most people are dumb. we have to live with it…

      • ap3604

        Sad, but true :(

        At least over time natural selection will get rid of their kind.

      • Itsyaboy

        That will never happen there will always be stupid people especially with governments that keep them that way, dumb people are easier to control, if everybody was smart enough to see answers right in front of there face there would be a crazy revolution, ie Building 7 was not hit by an airplane, an office fire can not bring down a tower 1 “failed” beam can not bring down a tower especially at free fall no resistant demolition style so what does that mean ?

        sorry off topic but people need to be informed

  • sleeperjoe

    I fear for my sanity whenever I read these comments…

    First it was evad3rs=evil, back-doors to china, we can’t trust them, they made money and didn’t give us any, doom and gloom, the sky is falling.

    Then cydia master of evil, Overlord Saurik was trying to sell out too, but don’t worry he’s totally gonna sort out Cydia and MobileSub like in a few days. It’s not like Cydia is a huge part of why people JB and he’s a bit pissed no one included him or anything like that. He’s totally gonna release an update any minute now… any minute.

    Next the alleged conversation geohot had with some random somebody where we only have audio no video. Who did the voice analysis to confirm it was him? Where they wearing a lab coat at the time?

    But wait, Geohot now says it’s OK, there were no back-doors in evasi0n. It’s all sunshine and rainbows and everyone is happy. It’s not like he has a reason to lie or anything. It’s not like anyone was dragging his name through the mud. Was that yesterday? Seems so long ago, it’s like it never happened.

    Notice the article never mentions side-doors, windows or trojans in the attic not being built into evasi0n7.

    • Itsyaboy

      alot of people must really not understand what went on with gehot and
      the whole selling the jailbreak thing, he was basically trying to
      finnish the jailbreak with 4 “leaked” exploits from evasion im assuming,
      and was trying to get paid the same way evasion got paid by adding a
      chines type of app store taig for a Chinese company for China they have
      over 1 billion people in there country so alot of money is to be made
      from there app store and that’s it nothing scandals maybe only on
      gehot’s part for trying to cut throat, but cutting throat does not
      destroy his credibility

  • Freddy Born

    the only thing i am worried about is that apple will most likely patch the jb in 7.1(gm/final) 7.1 fixes the safari ram problem and i would really like to have that with a jailbreak.

  • Burge

    And what about the Cydia update ????

    • Joe Benning

      The new Cydia 1.1.9 looks great!

      • Abdl

        Are you kidding me??

      • Joe Benning

        What?

      • Burge

        He pushed to 6.1.3 too just done my old 3GS

  • abooduper

    Thanks for the information . Can your make something about cydia 1.1.9 the update is available now !!!

  • Chuck Finley

    Surprise surprise, there’s nothing shady in the jailbreak. It appears every tin-foil hat wearing moron on the internet basically lost their shit over China being involved because they’re a bunch of paranoid, ignorant, basement dwelling dumbasses who haven’t quite realised the Cold War has long since ended, and the funniest bit is that NONE OF THIS EVEN AFFECTED THEM FROM THE START.

    Utter morons, the lot of you. You muppets owe the evad3rs an apology.

    • Burge

      It all started with a tweet from someone who didn’t know what they where talking about. And the scaremongering soon started

      • Chuck Finley

        A guy on Reddit admitted he posted utter bullshit too, but he apologised. Good for him.

      • Burge

        Good on him.. Best but is though who would down vote what I first put ? Might be one of the scaremongers ..lol.

  • Hassan Walid

    the new iOS 7 cydia look just came out via update

  • Chuck Finley

    Also, it’s nice that geohot has taken the time to look through the jailbreak but please PLEASE stick to hacking (what you’re good at) and dear god stop rapping, you are utterly terrible at it. You sound like a nerdy, middle class white kid trying to be Eminem.

    …Wait a minute. Think I’ve hit the nail on the head there.

  • Hassan Walid

    the new iOS 7 cydia look just came out via update

    • Badr Dria

      MobileSubstrate update with this version ?

      • Dirksens

        No

      • Badr Dria

        i will wait for a new release of Evasion7 hope all issues will be fixed

      • Hassan Walid

        Nope, Sorry

  • Joe Benning

    I trust the evad3rs more than I will ever trust GeoHot. That guy would sell out his own mother.

  • batongxue

    Arm 128 = =
    This guy is not coming back

  • ios7

    Thank you for clearing evasi0n7.

  • Steven Pedraza

    Hey is anyone else having a problem with there message app always displaying a new message badge but no new messages are there? Is there a fix?

  • Guest

    Will there be any jailbreak for 6.1.3 on iPad4 if people don’t want to update to iOS7?

  • Jeep204

    Will there be any jailbreak for 6.1.3 on iPad4 if people don’t want to update to iOS7??

  • RustyRail

    Not coming back till 128 bit phone,Why do I get the feeling he knows something,and why should he mention it how.Let us not for get he his miles ahead of the average jailbreaker.He just won 350 because he has the talent to see passed all of the rest,that if he doesn’t take up working for Apple