Galaxy S8’s face scanner via the front-facing camera can be easily tricked by scanning a user’s photograph and now we learn that Note 8’s facial recognition system is no better.

As noted today by 9to5Mac, developer Mel Tajon on Saturday posted a video showing potentially fooling Note 8’s face scanner via a selfie captured on his phone. All a person in possession of your Note 8 would theoretically need to do is open your Facebook profile on a phone and hold it in front of the Note 8’s front-facing camera.

It’s also possible that this is a demo phone set to unlock when it sees any face.

Demo or not, it’s already established that Galaxy S8 can be unlocked by a picture of your iris and the new Note does not provide any advances in terms of the facial recognition system.

“I’m also able to unlock Samsung’s Galaxy Note 8 with people’s Facebook profile pictures and Instagram selfies from my iPhone,” the developer tweeted today. Samsung itself states that neither Galaxy S8’s nor Note 8’s face scanner could be used for Samsung Pay, practically acknowledging that the feature could be easily defeated.

Apple’s iPhone 8 is expected to use infrared 3D sensors and time-of-flight measurements to build a detailed 3D mesh of a user’s face. The system is said to capture more data points than Touch ID, making it more secure than Apple’s fingerprint scanner. “It can scan a user’s face and unlock iPhone 8 within a few hundred milliseconds,” as per Bloomberg.

I think people will be surprised just how reliable and accurate Apple’s Face ID system is.

Because the Cupertino giant has worked hard to get banks on board for Apple Pay, and given the rumored lack of the traditional Touch ID fingerprint reader on iPhone 8, there’s not the slightest chance that the company is going to ship a less secure authentication system.

  • LaughingQuoll

    This is false. This is a demo model phone and it unlocks with any picture. The consumer models do not do this.

    • Could be, and I stated that in the article…

      • LaughingQuoll

        I’m just re-confirming.

        It is a demo model because the last phrase is asking to try it for yourself.

      • Drocx

        A very bias article. The title didn’t even mention it. Please make it “possibly beaten by a selfie in a demo unit”.

    • Jay

      Have you tried it yourself? With multiple selfies with different phones?

    • Rowan09

      Are you saying this doesn’t work with the consumer Note 8 phones? I thought is does however been proven to work with consumer S8 devices.

  • Juniors234

    I feel like there should not be one sole authentication method. Don’t rule out finger print sensors or don’t rule out facial recognition. Why not use both? Let’s say someone holds up a photo and the phone says “hey its you!” now please place your finger on the scanner. If the scanner print doesn’t match, the person still doesn’t get into the phone. Is it a slower process to getting into your device? Yes. But is it more secure? Yes. Here’s my question. What is the true purpose of these security features on phones anyway? To serve as fancy gimmicks? Or to protect valuable user data? Touch ID and facial recognition are cool, however the way i feel they are presented to consumers is to give off an “air” or false sense of security.

    • Rowan09

      People like convenience and things that are fast. If I have to use facial scanning to just ask for my fingerprint, just ask for one thing. There’s a reason ads are so short today than they were years ago.

      • Juniors234

        Understood. what I really meant was a scenario where the device asks for both at the same time. So you hold up your phone to your face while keeping your finger on the scanner. having both security features needing to be confirmed means that there is a lesser likely hood to someone accessing your device. I think that in today’s world where hackers are making a fine living off of innocent people, security concerns ought to trump speed and convenience.

      • Rowan09

        Most people are not honestly stealing devices to get into Apple Pay, they’re stealing it for a profit. Still didn’t find a way to beat activation lock yet. Even the fingerprint scanner while secure, it’s way more convenient and faster than typing in a passcode. Trust me most people would not want tighter security when it hurts the user experience. If the fingerprint scanner took 10 seconds to scan your fingerprint people would just not use it. Look at some of the simple passwords people use.

      • Juniors234

        Good point! But isn’t that exactly the issue here? The hackers are banking in people’s need for convenience and speed. They know that grandma is going to use her birthday as her password to her device instead of some complex 24 character passcode. They know that even though facial recognition is on their phone, 9 times out of 10 a customer won’t even bother setting it up. Why? Speed and convenience. I used to work as a mobile technician in the past preparing iPads tablets and phones. The majority of phones I worked on did not have touch ID setup and the passwords given to me were absurdly simple ones. How easy would it have been for me to steal sensitive info? Quite easy actually. I’m just saying we live in a world where people do EVERYTHING on their phones. Taxes. Baby pics. Naked pics! Work email. Buying houses. Paying for their car insurance! The list goes on and on. Google an article on the verge last year which talks about fingerprint security not being as effective as it ought to be. An OPM breach compromised the fingerprints of 14 million federal workers! Research also found that 15 percent of iPhone logins last year happened through the touch ID sensor! Having both facial recognition and touch ID working hand in hand IMHO is more safe and effective. If you ain’t got both my face and my hands no info for you!

      • Abhinav Chaudhary

        What you get in an accident and disfigure your face and cut off both your hands?