Let’s Talk Jailbreak 40: Jailbreak apps versus jailbreak tweaks

By , Jan 15, 2014

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After a brief discussion about the concept of jailbreak apps versus jailbreak tweaks, the crew debates about the ongoing struggle with Cydia purchases. Sebastien gives us a tutorial in using Activator to emulate Zephyr functionality, Jeff talks about ClassicSwitcher, and Cody shares his thoughts about the latest WinterBoard update.

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  • Abdl

    As much as i wanto listen to this podcast,im becoming less interested in JB since it hard-bricked my ipad and soft-bricked my iphone

    • At

      I’m not having any issues with my JB, but I only install well known developers items. Check our my new look.

      • La Cucaracha

        That is ugly! Im sorry

      • At

        To each his own I guess, I love it.

      • Jonathan

        I love it too, to the points it’s been my theme for the past week. :P I’m probably the pickiest person in the world.

      • At

        One if my favorites, but I’ve changed mine to this.

      • Jonathan

        I like some of the icons. Camera, Weather, maybe Maps, and Mail. that’s it though. :P

    • ✪ aidan harris ✪

      The jailbreak IMO is pretty stable (stable now , it initially had issues which my have caused problems with your devices). You should give it another shot especially now that tweaks are starting to get updated and new tweaks coming thick and fast…

      • Abdl

        I also noticed a significant change in the battery draining rate between fully stock and a jb phone,seems kinda higher in a jb phone. That gives me much concern also

      • ✪ aidan harris ✪

        Themes are the killer

      • 123bob

        delete battery-heavy tweaks. or delete all tweaks and download them back little by little and if one drains your battery, delete it.

      • Abdl

        And if you can help me revive my ipad i would be grateful

      • ✪ aidan harris ✪

        You’ll have to put it into DFU (device firmware update) mode. To do this Turn it on and as soon as you see the Apple logo start holding the power and home button at the same time. Do this for about ten seconds until the screen goes black. Once it goes black keep holding the home button but release the power button. If your screen remains blank plug the device into your PC or Mac to restore with iTunes you’ll know you’ve done it correctly because your device will have a blank screen and iTunes will produce a message something along the lines of ‘iTunes has detected a device in DFU mode press okay to restore the device’. You’ll then be able to restore the device, activate it get everything from an iTunes backup or iCloud and should you want to jailbreak it…

      • Abdl

        I have done that already. I have tried both DFU and recovery mode. Restore will be successful but then at the initial boot if the ipad after the apple logo,the ipad screen will flash white and restart all over continuously,meanwhile itunes will pop up “Error 0xE800084, itunes cant connect to the iphone”. Yh i know i have an ipad but itunes keeps telling cant connect to iphone. I have done much googling about the error but i couldnt find a solution. :(

      • ✪ aidan harris ✪

        You’ll have to put it into DFU (device firmware update) mode. To do this Turn it on and as soon as you see the Apple logo start holding the power and home button at the same time. Do this for about ten seconds until the screen goes black. Once it goes black keep holding the home button but release the power button. If your screen remains blank plug the device into your PC or Mac to restore with iTunes you’ll know you’ve done it correctly because your device will have a blank screen and iTunes will produce a message something along the lines of ‘iTunes has detected a device in DFU mode press okay to restore the device’. You’ll then be able to restore the device, activate it get everything from an iTunes backup or iCloud and should you want to jailbreak it…

  • daniel

    cody mentioned my tweet about zephyr on lets talk jailbreak.

    • La Cucaracha

      Congratulations! You are now famous!!

  • Matt Taylor

    You guys are so bitchy on this episode I’m literally laughing out loud :-p

    Ps. Cody and Sebastien are right about Cydia purchases! Sorry Jeff.

    • http://www.idownloadblog.com Sebastien

      We were exhausted, that’s probably why we were a little more “bitchy” than usual. Hopefully that won’t turn off new comers :)

      • Matt Taylor

        Well it was very entertaining! A group needs diversity, it’s a good thing you don’t all agree with each other the entire time!

  • 123bob

    Remember when Sebastien posted this: lol
    Sorry I just had to

  • michaelrw

    im another one of those that has to endure the lengthy login process when purchasing cydia tweaks. (google login with email and pass, then mobile paypal login with email and pass, then back to cydia to install)

    @JeffBenjam says we’re doing it all wrong.. but i dont see any way around it.

    looking forward to your video on how to (quickly) purchase cydia tweaks. lol, who wouldve thought we’d ever need a video for such a thing

    • ✪ aidan harris ✪

      No matter what his workflow is it still won’t be as convenient as the AppStore which is as follows (on a 5s):

      1. Press buy
      2. Finger on sensor
      3. Fingerprint authenticated
      4. Purchase made…

  • FrankensteinBlack

    Winterboard & iPad 2, NOT PERFECT TOGETHER! Apps started to force close. Uninstalled it, and all is well once more. :^)…

  • Joseph A. Ahmad

    Congrats on episode 40! You guys are funny when you argue, ha.

  • Mario Saldana

    Cody didn’t say peace.

  • Guest

    People confusing tweaks and apps is one of my pet-peeves, too, though
    I’ve come to accept that to many people, *everything* on iOS is an
    “app”.

    Even so, as this blog is a source of news for many users, I feel the personal need to submit a correction.

    In
    the iOS (jailbreak) world, an app is something that has an icon on the
    home screen that, when launched, opens a new full-screen window. It is a
    stand-alone process. A tweak is a library (a dylib) that gets injected
    into a process (an app, a daemon, etc.) when the process starts and
    modifies that process’s behavior.

    WinterBoard is a tweak.
    Activator is a tweak. BiteSMS? I do not have a copy myself, but I have
    seen “BiteSMS.dylib” show up in submitted crash logs, so I would say
    that it, too, is a tweak.

    The above tweaks may come in packages
    that also install a preference bundle (the part that shows up in
    Settings) and/or an app (also for modifying options, and whose icon is
    often hidden by users), but the main functionality comes from a tweak.

    Is this difference important for the general user to know? It can be, especially when resolving issues:

    Tweaks
    affect apps. If an app crashes, it could be due to the app itself (or
    an issue with the system: memory, etc.), or it could be due to a tweak
    that has been injected into it. It can be useful to know which apps a
    given tweak affects. That way when an app crashes, you know which tweaks
    might be to blame… and which are not.

  • mwpitt52

    The Bite SMS beta upgrade was just released.