The evad3rs post 2nd letter to the jailbreak community

By , Dec 25, 2013

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Following the release of their first update for evasi0n7, the evad3rs have published their second letter to the jailbreak community. The group posted the link to its Twitter account last night, saying that Taig has been removed and that it wanted to address some additional concerns.

The letter essentially covers 3 concerns regarding the app store that originally came bundled with the Chinese version of evasi0n7: privacy, piracy and money. The evad3rs say that Taig has been completely removed from their app, and that they haven’t collected any money from them…

Here’s probably the most interesting part of the letter (for me anyway):

“There have been a lot of rumors listing various amounts we’ve been paid. We have received no monies from any group, including Taig. We will not be accepting any money. Our donations are being given to Public Knowledge, Electronic Frontier Foundation and Foundation for a Free Information Infrastructure to help protect jailbreaking as your legal right.”

Since the release of evasi0n7, we’ve been hearing rumors that the evad3rs made a deal with Taig to bundle its app store in the jailbreak utility worth in upwards of $1 million. It’s not clear now if that was never the case, or if it was, and the evad3rs tabled the offer following the backlash.

Here, the evad3rs address privacy concerns regarding the sending of user data:

“First and foremost, and of utmost concern, is privacy. No one’s data was ever sent anywhere. Of course, as a member of the community whose work frees devices, it would be against everything we’ve worked for the last 7 years to jeopardize the security of the users of our software. To reiterate, no Taig software was installed unless the computer’s language was set to Chinese. Furthermore, no Taig software would run unless the user opened the Taig application.

After rumors abound of encrypted data being sent for users in China who’ve installed Taig, we decided to do what we do best – reverse engineer the code of Taig to understand what was being sent. Taig transmitted data similar to what Cydia transmits. Unique device identifiers were transmitted in encrypted form similar to how Cydia uses SSL to protect the privacy of its users. Taig did not transmit any private user data from the devices at all.”

And finally, the group clarifies its stance on piracy and what happened with Taig:

“Our written and verbal agreement with Taig banned it. They assured us it was not in there. We did not check every package in their store but a cursory examination before release found no problems. However, after investigation and after notification from the community, we found examples, including pirated tweaks, Apple App Store apps, and even pod2g’s PodDJ app. We dropped the ball on this. While we at first did not believe Taig purposefully violated our agreement, the depth of the transgression against the software developers and the jailbreak community cannot be overlooked and we could not move forward after that even if it were fixed. We terminated our relationship with them. We are very disappointed that they have decided to put up a cracked version of the jailbreak on their site that installs Taig. We did not give them any permission or source code.”

The letter ends with the group promising to fix the remaining problems with evasi0n7, though it’ll obviously take them a while. Not only is it the holidays, but the evad3rs say that the last few days have been very stressful for them, and that they need to take some time to recover.

For complete context, make sure to read the entire statement. And for more evasi0n7 coverage, see:

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  • Christian Mejía

    Apology accepted (;
    Now update it for iPad 2 please :D

    • xxObliteratorxx

      What problem are you experiencing? I don’t seem to have any major issue with my iPad 2 GSM with 1.0.0 evasi0n jailbreak other than MobileSubstrate.

      • Rowan09

        It’s only with the Wifi iPad 2 apparently, it’s even stated on their site.

      • Christian Mejía

        The fact that you can’t jailbreak it because it always gets stuck on the bootloop

  • Gorflin

    Who cares, the jailbreak was the best Christmas present EVER!!!

    • NaSty

      Not really in my opinion, considering alot of tweaks dont work (apparently), although I havent jailbroken yet. It was a nice gesture tho to release it around Christmas :)

      • Donald Frank

        Yeah, don’t jailbreak yet. iPhone 4 and almost NOTHING works. Mobile Terminal works. and uh…iFile. that’s it. lol Not a damn thing else has worked. Tried the Mobile Substrate trick…nothin.

    • Jerry

      I agree! And also Santa Claus (my girlfriend) giving me a 64gb 5s right in time for this!

      • Kurt

        Marry her

      • Heisenberg

        Who cares about your Santa Claus here ?? :P

      • Gustavo

        shut up!!

      • hcadelaide

        I am sorry to hear about your mom getting rapped by Santa. But we all love him.

    • patmack

      AGREED!

  • Hermès Vainstar Chu

    Good riddens

    • 4p0c4lyps3

      Good riddance?

      • Hermès Vainstar Chu

        thank you LOL

  • Abdl

    This is unbelievable… After saying that ” yes they’ve the right to be compensated just like any other developer…” Now they didnt receive anything?? I dont believe it!!

    • iOops

      Who cares if they got money or not. The fact they terminated their agreement with Taig is enough in my books.

    • Mohammed Sahib

      They say they terminated their deal with Taig, so ofc no money.

    • Pranav Shankar

      Actually it’s pretty sad! They deserved every penny of that 1M. I mean come on if they get a 100k in donations, split that among 5 guys. I don’t think that’s enough compensation for all the hours they put in.

      • Kille

        20k is not enought?

      • Vitaliy Anonymous

        Paypal takes the cut too.

  • George Kaskouras

    hallo there to all and marry christmas to all jail breakers!!!i wandet to ask what the difference of the new tool?i made jb with the first one.shall i rejb with the new one or there is no problem?i mean the new tool has just removed taig?

    • David Horbach

      There is no need to rejailbreak :)

      • George Kaskouras

        ok then thank you for the quick reply!have a nice day!!!

      • David Horbach

        You 2, Merry christmas

  • Willie

    Seriously but everyone in the community needs to trust them. I’m sure the evad3rs do not have any intentions to sell or provide piracy in the jailbreak.

    • RarestName

      It’s all 太极’s fault. Screw them.

      • Willie

        Don’t do the hating, all I can say is that they are also doing this for a living. There are people who are against and for piracy.

  • leart

    It’s hard to imagine jailbreaking community without evad3rs :)

    • Zod

      Everyone started hating the evad3rs because they forgot about the iOS 6 jailbreak

      • on3simpleclick

        The amount of people left on iOS6 these days is minutely smaller than what it use to be pre-iOS7. Most people have updated these days, so creating a jailbreak for iOS6 would be a waste of time.

  • George Kaskouras

    well,i have been comfused about the whole story for the past few days but i believe everything have been fixed now and the way to ios7 jb is real and keeps going!!!

  • Preben Faarkrog Hansen

    Now please update winterboard, won’t my aye con update thats on its way.

    • Umut Bilgiç

      I was using flat icons and thankfully it works! At least the icons :)

  • Dj Stef

    appsync is out woohoo! works on my ipad mini retina :)

    • leart

      Lets the cracking apps show begins :)

    • sirgeorge

      be careful with appsync!!!i got mail,safari,weather app crashes and had to rejb!!!

      • Dj Stef

        ya im getting crashes happening often but this is ever since i jailbroke anyway, i cant say it has to do with the appsync in particular, i dont think so but i dont know.

      • Dj Stef

        ok now im getting mail and safari crash its true. weird. they were working fine up till now. maybe some cracked app i recently installed on it made it go fuked up i have no clue. i guess ill have to restore again :(

      • thebigzeus

        I did as well, uninstalled, then hard restart and back to normal. won’t be installing again.

    • on3simpleclick

      really?

      • Dani Hayes

        Nothing wrong with “try and buy”. But if one just pirates for the sole purpose of not buying than its wrong.

      • on3simpleclick

        Yeah. I try to support the developers on Cydia as much as possible. Only occasionally I can’t, so I use the ‘free’ ones until I am able to purchase them.

    • jabar

      Where shall I will get appsync

      • kevin chang

        first go to sources, then put edit and add this repo: htttp:repo.hackyouriphone.org/ finally go to search and you can find appsync for ios 7.0+

  • Aguy

    Guys I have a problem that always when i hit on anything related to BigBoss repo in Cydia ,it will take me to appstore to download some shit apps like (Brain Buster IQ).Its so annoying that it always switch me to appstore,please help.

    • sirgeorge

      that has to do with cydia advertisements! don’t worry there is no problem.i can’t yet explain it but when cydia shows a game App Store launches!!!

    • RarestName

      Nothing can fix that at the moment. You should report this to the repository manager.

  • Ishaan Malhotra

    Unlimtones works on ios 7!!
    Fyi ,it allows you to download ringtones or use your music as ringtone.

    • Rowan09

      I tried but it still doesn’t work for me.

  • steve

    why i cant reash fils system like var mobile and thing like that (it show ”jailed”
    with any explorer iphone soft)?

    • Syed

      Install afc2add

      • steve

        thanks

  • D1gits

    Please update this for iPad 2

  • Zorbo85

    Still seems a little fishy!!
    I think they would have got paid the 1 Million if they had still agreed to let Taig in the jailbreak.
    The fact that this has had so much negative impact and would have destroyed all their names in the jailbreak community they pulled the plug and removed Taig and hence why they did not get paid!!

    • benny001

      So what. Did u ever donate to these guys. They deserve 5 mill for all the years of work tgey did. U ungreatfull wretch

      • Zorbo85

        Yes I have donated to them you CRETIN!!!I
        The jailbreak was not the problem is was the Taig Chinese piracy App and the fact that on some devices data was being sent back to China hence why now they have deleted it!!

      • Kurt

        Something definitely is fishy. They won’t accept donations and weren’t going to get money from taig. So they were planning on doing this all for free, that’s such BS.

      • gittlopctbi

        Donating to them or them getting money is not the issue in my opinion. I think they should be compensated for their work. What is at question is their integrity. You cannot buy integrity. And Zorbo85 and others like him (me, for instance) are not ungrateful…We ARE leery of questionable motives, however.

  • Binh

    Why did they release the jailbreak at this time. In rush and no tested ? The request from a company ??? I can’t trust the reason they said

    • Rowan09

      It was tested who said it wasn’t? It wasn’t received by Saurik to update Cydia but they tested that it worked before releasing it, just like any software it will have bugs and be fixed.

    • 4p0c4lyps3

      I take it you comment on threads that you don’t even take the time to read? Obviously.

  • Rowan09

    People are so ungrateful. What happen if no one had a jailbreak would it make your lives better? Thank these guys instead of making up nonsense they said they didn’t get a million and we all know they are against pirating so just stop the nonsense. These guys work hard for us and we’re here giving them a hard time. Thanks guys I’m grateful. The more nonsense they get will probably lead them away from jail breaking. Geohot said he will only be involved with a 128bit jailbreak so we don’t have a lot of options.

    • Binh

      I very happy to pay money for their work, but make sure my data is safe, and everything is clear. I was really trust them util they tried to install Chinese app to my iPhone without my agreement. So far, I can’t do something like them, really grateful them for their work, and disappointed these things

      • Rowan09

        It was only done on Chinese phones not all of them and it’s the same as installer a source like Big Boss, we don’t choose to have those sources installed either so it’s not a big deal. I never thought they were getting loose and giving up our personal info.

  • Zorbo85

    You are all wrong the ONLY reason they released this jailbreak early was due to GeoHot and Saurik and a few others were working on a similar jailbreak and Evaders wanted to best them to it.
    The fact that they did not even tell Saurik about the jailbreak after Saurik had told the Evaders how dodgy Taig was, just proved the Evaders knew about the Chinese piracy App all along.
    The Evaders have not got paid as they deleted the Taig App from their jailbreak due to fan outrage and backlash and they did nit want to fully destroy their image!!

    • itachi

      this sounds plausible

      • gittlopctbi

        I agree.

    • gittlopctbi

      And that’s another thing–I lost respect for them the way they alienated Saurik.

  • ConduciveMammal

    They made a mistake, perhaps due naivety perhaps due to a lapse in judgement. The most important part is that they’ve apologised greatly and reversed the damage to the best of their abilities. People seem to forget that these guys passed up on $1M for the sake of The People. I would never think of doing such a thing and I can’t imagine many who would. These guys deserve a medal in my opinion.

  • Abdl

    Is it just me?? My 4s is now waay laggy after jb

    • ConduciveMammal

      It wouldn’t surprise me. My i4 lagged on iOS 7 without JB so I don’t doubt that the model up would also do so with the JB

  • Evasi0n7

    Anyone of you have any proof that evad3rs have the 1m deal with taig? Or any proof that show they receive money from taig? You have to prove or have evedent before talking about something guys. Dont just seat their and talking about some things which you are not really sure yet. You should thank for their hard work and stop complaining.

  • itachi

    curious why need to put TAIG..? sure they get some $

    • Evasi0n7

      What if you dont understand english? Taig just a app for chinese people, it is not available for others. Stop your stupid thought that you use to apply on others

  • werd son

    I can’t jailbreak my Verizon mini retina .. Keep getting the apple loop

  • werd son

    And the update didn’t fix this problem I have had 2 restore this thing at least 5 times trying .

  • WTF

    STUPID TAIG, for those idiot people who only cares about the jailbreak,
    think also about the creators of jailbreak.

    without them, there’s no jailbreak
    you’re not enjoying this moment without them,
    BASTARDS!

  • https://www.facebook.com/LP.lyrics.video Ghaith Al Hami

    Evasion team the best

  • werd son

    This is not only an iPad 2 problem I have a verizon mini ret and I keep getting the apple loop . I have tried 5 times even with the update and of course from iTunes .. Just letting people kno this isn’t just an iPad 2 problem …

    • Kurt

      It’s happening on my iPhone 4S that’s not jailbroken. When it’s off it wants me to plug it in but when I restart it it shows 48% battery. Few min later same thing and this time 8% battery. Few min later shuts off, restart and it says 23%. I drained my battery and am giving it a full charge. Is this the same for you?

      • hotdog714

        You need a new Battery! This happen to me, I took my iPhone 5 to the apple store and they said that the battery need to be replaced, since my iPhone 5 was in warranty they just replaced my iPhone for a new one of the same model.

      • Kurt

        That sucks. I’m about to sell it.Should have sold it a few months ago. Thanks so for letting me know. I was afraid it was the battery going bad. I was really hoping it was software related :(

  • werd son

    Actually I purchased the iPad the day the jailbreak dropped

    • Gróf Attila

      sounds like a great day:D

  • nonchalont

    I never doubted the Evaders. Their motives are in the right direction and I definitely think its okay for them to receive some sort of money or donation for their time. Thank Evaders for the ios7 Jailbreak!! I thought JB was dead. I was about to move to Android lol

  • El Arqui Tecto

    So they made ir for charity? Mm ok

  • Rupinder S

    Merry Christmas!

  • Rameen Bashtawi

    Cydia is crashing like anything, with the whole phone crashing too, it says at first that it has many sources…

  • Waleed

    Post any ideA, when mobile substrate gon be updated , *being restless*

  • sault

    ¿Queréis ya dejar de una vez de tocar los cojones a Evad3rs?

  • Rommel Lapuz

    hey guys… i may have found a fix for ios7 jailbreak apple look stuck issue!!!

    im on my ipad mini retina display.. ios 7.0.4

    first i did was reinstall 7.0.4 using itunes..

    then on the initial setup screen. follow anything in your desire BUT!!! disable location services (you can change it back later after jailbreaking)

    after you set up your new device.. jailbreak it using evasi0n 1.0.1.. and woala!!! its Jailbroken!!!!

  • Gróf Attila

    cydia’s icon also should be updated to ios7 outlook,

    • Chris

      I updated mine manually, looks pretty good

      • Gróf Attila

        looks amazing!
        How did you do it?

  • JS3

    im reading all these comments saying nothing but trouble with stuff. i wouldn’t know anything about the 5s but with the ip5 EVERYTHING has worked perfect. when i jailbroke it took about 5 mins or less, once in cydia everything loaded perfect no errors or anything. and still to this point not one single error yet.

    ppl are just retards or dont know what there doing or something because everything works flawless for me atm….

    • Chris

      Some people are new to jailbreaking which is why you see so many scared of frustrated comments, we all had to start at the same place so to say what you did above without any thought as to what troubles you had when you first installed a jailbreak is hypocritical

    • gittlopctbi

      Since “everything works flawless” for you, would you mind posting the tweaks you have installed? I also have an iPhone 5 and am not going to jb until I know that my tweaks work.

  • Ben Barros

    need to get the iOS 7 jailbreak working in full throttle nothing really works yet

  • Ben Barros

    hit me up for at&t & Tmobile remote cellphone unlocking and at&t and Tmobile s2 s3 s4 note 1 and note 2 imei unblocking plus many more samsung ONLY models.

  • gittlopctbi

    Personally, I hope they financially benefit so that they can continue their work. I just wish they had done a better job with the roll out than they did.

  • gittlopctbi

    I really like much of what you said here (though a bit wordy). I also disagree with you as to not needing an apology. I also disagree with you as your assessment of Saurik. As I understand it, Saurik not only is what you say he is, but he also makes many of the tweaks work because of Mobile Substrate. evad3rs did not consult with him and rushed out a jb, which was an extremely poor roll out. They do need to apologize for that. They do need to apologize for all the other perceived stuff, too, IMO. Perception is everything. Whether there was an ulterior motive or just from ignorance, it makes no difference–their reputation for integrity was being questioned. You say they have been “transparent” with their apologies. I personally do not agree with that.

    • MacServiceGuy

      A few things:

      1) I was not providing a comprehensive list of what Saurik does, was just pointing out the main thing each of them do. None of the tweaks work without Mobile Substrate, but I felt bringing this up would muddy the the ultimate point I was trying to make
      2) You’ll need to be more specific on how their response have not been transparent. They have addressed each aspect of the decisions that were made, been honest about why they were made, and made it clear that they were paid for their efforts – not only that, but even went so far as to describe their revenue model. Anything more than that , unless there is intentional deception, is totally unnecessary
      3) If you think an apology is necessary, then tell me why. What is the specific thing they did wrong – them personally – that requires them to say “i’m sorry”. where did they screw up?

      having said all that, it misses the ultimate point I’m trying to make: If it’s true that both were attempting to release an entire jailbreak tweak, it means they were competing. This is not a good idea at this point in the history and development of the JB community.

      I have no doubt that Saurik could provide just as wonderful a jailbreak as they can, and likely they could provide a great store and substrate if necessary.

      The entire point was: focus on what you’re currently succeeding at and harmonize with the others who complement your work, rather than competing. This will build a brand for both of them and create great financial equity for both.

  • gittlopctbi

    I’ve said it before, but the issue of them being paid is not an issue for me. What is at stake here is their integrity. For me, the reason why you have to issue another apology or explanation is because 1) you either didn’t do it right, or completely the first time, or 2) you are trying to hide something and you need to continue to come up with “explanations.” I hope it is for reason #1. IMO, this is a botched roll out and their explanations just do not completely settle it for me.

  • FrankensteinBlack

    So, the water is safe. Jump in now all you non donating freeloaders before Apple patches it. Its your cheap fault that caused the evad3rs to go Chinese in the first place. Awesome coding talent shouldn’t have to beg for handouts like some drunken Christmas Santa with a tin cup. Sayin…

  • Dante Arellano

    There is nothing that we can install in cydia nada even winterboard sorry but this jailbreak sucks!!!!

  • Max

    Does Evasi0n7 require a certain version of OS X? I’m all updated without lion or snow leapord, but Evasi0n7 “cannot be opened because of a problem” because my “library is 6.0.0″ instead of “7.0.0″…? Any help with this?

    • noaaahh

      Not sure, you defiantly need to be running iOS 7.0.0 to 7.0.4 on your device though!

  • Justin Thurmond

    I love @evad3rs!