New report details iPhone 5S Home button, suggests delay in iOS 7 for iPad

By , Aug 19, 2013

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As Apple’s September 10th event—where it’s expected to unveil its new iPhone(s)—draws near, we’re beginning to learn new details about the handset. For instance, the latest rumblings seem certain that it’ll feature a new gold color option.

And today we learn a few more particulars from the often-accurate Mark Gurman of 9to5Mac. Gurman has published a sweeping report, detailing everything from what the iPhone 5S Home button is going to look like, to the status of iOS 7…

Previous reports have claimed that the 5S Home button will protrude out from the device, in a convex manner, in order to facilitate the new fingerprint sensor. But Gurman says his sources, who have used the handset, say that isn’t the case.

“Also contrary to recent talk, the new Home button’s design will not be noticeably convex. Perhaps the shape has changed, but the tweaked button is nothing distinct enough for the iPhone 5S to be identified as anything but an iPhone 5 by the untrained eye. There’s the possibility, however, that the etching and border of the Home button could become more shiny and look slightly different.”

He also answers a question I’ve been asking for a while, which is why haven’t we seen any supply chain evidence of a fingerprint sensor yet? Apparently Apple has been extremely secretive about the feature, even omitting it from prototypes.

Additionally, Gurman’s sources offer up some new information about the state of iOS 7. It looks like while the iPhone version of the software is nearly finished, the iPad version is running behind—so much that it could end up being delayed.

“Many developers have noted that the iOS 7 builds for iPad feel unstable and unreliable compared to the iPhone-optimized betas. The reason, as we’ve noted before, is that Apple started on iOS 7 for iPhone prior to building for the iPad. Perhaps as proof for this, Apple did not ship an iOS 7 beta for iPad until two weeks after the initial iPhone iOS 7 beta. A similar situation is potentially in the cards for the public launch of iOS 7.”

He says that the iPad version of iOS 7 could be pushed back to coincide with the launch of the new iPad and iPad mini, which could be in October some time. If true, Apple could push out iPad support for iOS 7 as an update, like iOS 7.0.1.

Finally Gurman offers up some tidbits on future iOS releases, including iOS 7.1 and even iOS 8. He says Apple is working on a number of new features, including a Siri API for third-party developers and advancements with iOS in the Car.

This fall is shaping up to be very interesting, to say the least. We’re looking at not one, but two new iPhones, two new iPads, and the biggest update to Apple’s mobile operating system we’ve seen since its introduction. And it all starts in a few weeks.

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  • Dragonballz

    First one here

    • pauleebe

      People like you should be banned …

      • Dragonballz

        Really we’ll i think people like you should suck dick

      • Yaw Boamah Jr

        Hey Dragon, Grow some Balls and grow up.

      • Gorgonphone

        you guys are the real trolls… you suck as bad as IOS7s UI

      • John

        God bless you, you know.

        Your feelings towards iOS 7 really proves one of two things:
        1 – You have no life, or;
        2 – You are a troll.

        Either way, you need to get out more and stop hiding behind a phoney account. It’s getting boring.

      • Cooknivesuck

        I love this post .. so well worded and accurate .. you are a perfect mall cop for IDB…. thanks fro getting rid of him.. now our love for IOS7 can flourish

      • TheJohn

        lol this was funny

      • Kamrul

        Well*

    • ɑղժɾҽա

      Congratulations! You’ve won a free ban!

      • Brandon Miranda

        how did he get banned?

      • Guest

        What did he say?

      • ɑղժɾҽա

        He said “FIRST!”

      • Cooknivesuck

        yay!!! ji wish we could delete folks like this in real life too when they dont agree with us…

  • Mohammed Sahib

    Seeing how buggy the current iOS7 beta for iPad is, I came to the same conclusion / fear: The official launch may get delayed. There is just a very slim chance that all the bugs will be solved in one beta.

    • ɑղժɾҽա

      Multitasking Gestures and notification banners causes the iPad to freeze. That is a huge bug!

      • Gorgonphone

        sad bug

    • Gorgonphone

      i think apple has lost alot of their engineers from the steve days… and cook ‘n ive cant motivate employees like steve did

      • John

        You’re an idiot. A moron.

        I love how all your obsessively anti-iOS 7 tweets circle around the fact that Tim and Jonathan have apparently failed. Can’t say I am surprised though, you continually fail to provide any evidence they have.

      • Gorgonphone

        its creepy how you use their full names like that but anyway .. you post what you want and i wont tell you stop and i post what i want and you can go away..

      • Cooknivesuck

        john from IDB and john ive are the best johns ever

      • Guest

        Ok, I’m not a huge fan of iOS 7 either, but honestly, on almost any post I read on iDB, you are rambling on in the comments about how much you hate iOS 7. Just knock it off, please.

      • Gorgonphone

        stop reading my posts … i idont read your posts if i dont like them or i just ignore them so you knock it off stoop responding to me…

      • Guest

        It’s almost impossible to not see your comments. You comment on seemingly every post on this website

      • Gorgonphone

        well be a man and simple move on to a post that makes you Feel good… its that simple if you cant handle reality then close your eyes..

      • John

        I’m not sure who you are “Guest” but it’s funny how every person who has voted your comments down…is Gorgon himself.

      • Cooknivesuck

        im so happy you can see who is voting down comments that way we can know who is disagreeing and get rid of them ! Hey john i have been reading your posts and i just want to thank you for leading the crusade against the non conformists .. and coolest thing is t eh you have the same name as the best designer on earthy john Ive :)

    • ✪ aidan harris ✪

      I’ve been using iOS 7 on my iPad 3rd generation for a while now and it’s boot up time is ages and has many bugs although my guess is simply because Apple makes most of their money off the iPhone so it is only natural that they optimise their software there first before moving onto the iPad…

  • Dante Arellano

    There is no finger thing in the new iPhone still the same thing but better cam better Siri better chip and the new iOS 7 that’s all.

    • Gorgonphone

      and ugly IOS7

      • John

        Get over it. Move on.
        Find something else to obsess over.

      • Guest

        He has been commenting on almost every iDB post I have read since June rambling on and on about how much he hates iOS 7.

      • Guest

        I know right! Damn talk about childish behavior. Hey gorgonphone or whatever your name is GET A LIFE

      • Gorgonphone

        i will get a life when ive fixes the ugly IOS7 ui..

      • Cam

        That’s probably the most pathetic comment I have ever read. You will get a life when the UI changes? Seriously?! Wow… I don’t even know what to say. Sad… Truly…

      • Gorgonphone

        yeh it is sad cause we all know we are stuck with this sorry remedial UI

      • Cam

        You’re a lost cause man. I feel so bad for you. haha

      • Cooknivesuck

        he was just sad… how could anyone hate ive and IOS7s UI that much and still breath?? OMG… just glad he is gone

      • Joseph

        *ahem*

      • John

        …and just like that, he’s been blocked/banned/deleted–I am not sure of the correct term, but thank you moderators.

      • Cooknivesuck

        yes thanks mods …. lets keep this place free of folks like hime who hate IOS7.. either agree and conform or get out…yay!!

      • Joseph

        Hello, Gorgonphone. Your name and utter lack of ability to spell or use grammar for crap is a dead giveaway.

      • TheJohn

        thanks for policing so well

      • Gorgonphone

        you keep saying you like it and i say ji hate it.. you get a life and stop talking to me..

  • Tony Trenkle Jr.

    Most underrated thing about this post: 3rd party API’s for Siri coming!!!! There are limitless possibilities once this happens. Although I’m surprised he didnt say anything about keyboards…

    • Gorgonphone

      most folks are tired of siri and dont use its and the google voice api is 10xs faster and more accurate

      • Markus Hudobnik

        Dude get out of here. go to your android forums

      • Gorgonphone

        google and and samsung android suck worse than cook ‘n Ive though

      • Cooknivesuck

        I dont have any google devices lol all my stuff is apple thats why a here rebling against this bogus leadership our great company now has in place

      • Tony Trenkle Jr.

        Where is the google voice API used besides the google apps? I’d love for a developer say for ESPN to put in some deep Siri integration so we can ask about career stats and other stuff.

      • Cooknivesuck

        Not sure but the google voice fun tions super smooth males me jelouse lol

      • Joseph

        Hey Gorgonphone. I guess I’ll be getting this account banned, too! <3

      • TheJohn

        thanks fro getting rid of him his name was very obviously a troll

  • seyss

    fail

    • Gorgonphone

      true

    • Ashita

      fail what?

  • Gorgonphone

    “This fall is shaping up to be very interesting” umm no

    • John

      Why isn’t it?

      • Gorgonphone

        cause 5C and 5S are boring “upgrades” and IOS7 is not exciting at all..

  • http://173.58.214.169/ That’s what Siri said!!!

    Two words. untethered jailbreak

    • Gorgonphone

      2 words “cook ‘n Ive”

      • Joseph

        Said comment isn’t even related to iOS 7′s design. Stop with your ‘realist’ fantasy and notice that you’re a troll.

      • Gorgonphone

        you are an e-stalker… of epic proportions. he asked for jailnbreak and i mentioned who is standing in the way of jailbreak yup cook ‘n Ive

      • Joseph

        Ive is a graphic designer, and Cook is the CEO of the entire company, you nitwit. I’m not an e-stalker either, some people like reading the comments (to see other people’s reasonable opinions *once*) and not having to see a hate comment about iOS 7 as a reply to almost every comment in the recent articles.

        He didn’t ask for a jailbreak either, he said what he wanted. He sure as hell didn’t ask who was standing in his way (hint: it ain’t Ive).

      • Gorgonphone

        Ive is and industrial designer NOT a UI designer… and it is clearly evident in the basic sterile IOS7 UI esthetic that looks more like a schematic than a final rendered UI graphic.. You can defend ive all you want and yes he is great at designing machine boxes but he need to be kept there like steve had him..

      • Cooknivesuck

        Ive is probably the best graphic designer ever to walk earth..

      • Kurt

        What is wrong with you. It’s ok to like iOS7. I do. But stop worshiping these people. Makes you look bad, pathetic, etc.

      • Cooknivesuck

        well john from IDB convinced me that loving ive and everything he creates is the best way to be so im on board with the agenda and to be honest my life is much better now… I will be working with jon to ensure the banning of all non conformists to what we believe..

        Join us Kurt… JOIN US!!!

      • Kurt

        Where do I sign?!?!? Count me in!

      • TheJohn

        ahahah they got him too… IDB is quick

      • Kurt

        ahhhhhhhhhh. you are being sarcastic. Gotcha…nice to see you back Joe!

      • Cooknivesuck

        DUDE IVE IS THE TRUTH AND HIS DESIGN FOR IOS7 IS THE PERFECT UPGRADE TO ISO AND IS WHAT ALL APPLE fans and humans need to like… if you are not on board with that then you are not in line with IDB john and that could lead to banning

      • John

        Actually, no you didn’t.

        You (again) mentioned “Cook ‘n Ive” [which for the record is THREE WORDS not two] but it is funny to see how everyone is starting to notice that you have nothing better to do then slag off Jonathan and Tim without even using the software yourself, without even submitting feedback and bug reports and if they were as stuck up and arrogant as you THINK they are, then explain why they have been proactively making changes after listening to feedback?

      • Gorgonphone

        cook ‘n Ive as in cook and Ive referencing the 2 name cook and ive… you i could say cook ive but that does not read well,,lol

        everyone is noticing that you are deeply hurt by how some folks see the ugliness of IOS7 and realize that cook and ive are the reason for everything wrong with apple now..

        they may be greatt guys iin some areas but at apple they are bumbling fumbling and making money only decisions that will eventually destroy what was built

      • ✪ aidan harris ✪

        Clearly he/she/troll/it either has a phobia of modern mobile operating systems and/or a love fantasy involving “Cook ‘n Ive”. My advice to he/she/troll/it would be to seek expensive counselling or some form of group therapy to combat he/she/troll/its problems…

      • Gorgonphone

        I will go seek mental help when ive goes and seeks help in UI design and uses what he learns to fix IOS7

        see you lame stalkers keep trying to make this about me but i am staying focused on topic which is the unacceptably low design standards evident in IOS7.. …

      • Joseph

        >goes onto an internet blog and comments
        >complains about stalkers when they’re just people replying to his comment

        …What?

      • Cooknivesuck

        well said.. and i am so happy that we have great folks like you and john here to keep our sacred IDB culture intact and free of folks who dont agree with us..

      • Cooknivesuck

        so glad that guy is gone.. he needed to realize that loving IOS7 is the best choice.. his dislike for it was making me very very depressed..

      • n0ahcruz3

        Dont feed the trolls. ;)

    • Guest

      Have fun waiting.

    • leart za jmi

      my favorite tweak zephyr will not work in ios 7 :S
      I am now sure why to jailbreak ios 7, or just to change the icons :)

  • Markus Hudobnik

    My iPad 4 is pretty stable on ios7

    • Born of Fire

      +1

    • Cooknivesuck

      i cant wait to get IOS7 on mine too

  • Linton Findlay

    I reckon we will see needed features such as quick reply and customisable toggles in 7.1 and 7.2

    • Guest

      Truthfully, don’t get your hopes up.

    • http://www.computercrown.com ComputerMan

      listen carefully…Quick..Reply..is…never…coming!

  • Gorgonphone

    this is soo lame .. the topic is ios7 so everyone gets to talk about it from every angle but the emotional girly men start crying and and asking for those who know it sucks to stop saying it sucks…. silly.. i have never told you to stop saying you like it i simply accept that you are delusional and i explain why its sucks..

    you get to say you like it we get to say it sucks..

  • Cooknivesuck

    IOS7 is gonna be the best ever !!!! It beautiful ive is the greatest thank god i created the wonderful flat dreamy look to it ooooh its great

    • John

      Geeeez. I wonder who this is…

      • Cooknivesuck

        listen if you have nothing positive to say about IOS7 the just shut up cause we love it and think its was sent from god through I’ve

      • TheJohn

        he didnt last long lol this sight is great at getting rid of folks

      • John

        I also wonder who you are. Someone who has only signed up in the last 5 minutes, commented 8 times on my replies.

        If you are who I think you are, you honestly need to get out more mate, this obsession you have is becoming unhealthy and next time I won’t report you to iDB… I may take it further.

  • Josh Hylton

    I bought an ipad mini 32 gig saturday and also have a 32 gig iphone 5 for at&t i have ios 7 beta 6 on both and have absolutely no problems what so ever. it works great on both.

  • n0ahcruz3

    So excited about the iOS 7! Cant wait to update my 4S to the new os. Icon are the only drawback but feature-wise, ios 7 looks good. If positive outweighs the negative why not.

    • Cooknivesuck

      oh yeah IOS is soo fantastically designed.. thank god fro ive steve should have promoted him years ago..

  • Kash Gummaraju

    Has gorgonphone actually been banned? It’s sort of a miracle, but he’ll be back as someone different.

    • brooks whiffen seale

      I hope so

      • Kash Gummaraju

        let’s hope he never shows up ever again

  • http://kevpat.com/ Kevin Paterson

    Well, this entire article was pretty much spot-on.