iPhone 6 Apple Pay

Talks between Apple and PayPal regarding Apple Pay partnership soured following PayPal’s deal with Samsung, reports Bank Innovation. The outlet says that the two sides began negotiations early on in Apple Pay’s development, but when PayPal partnered with Samsung for Galaxy S5 payments, Apple backed out.

According to the report, PayPal’s now-former president David Marcus was categorically against the Samsung deal, knowing that it would jeopardize PayPal’s relationship with Apple. But apparently eBay CEO John Donahoe didn’t agree with the executive, and essentially forced the company into the partnership.

The outlet even goes so far as to say that this falling out was a major factor in David Marcus’ decision to leave PayPal for Facebook. And Apple, for its part, was said to be so furious with PayPal after this, that it cut the company out of Apple Pay altogether—it’s not currently listed as an acceptable payment platform.

It’s a shame, really, as a deal would have made a lot of sense for both parties, considering PayPal’s position in the digital payment space and Apple’s 800K+ credit card bank. I don’t think Apple Pay will suffer for the outcome, though, as Apple eventually went on to strike a deal with Stripe for Internet payments.

Announced in early September, Apple Pay will allow iPhone owners to pay for goods and services both online and in physical stores using their handsets. The service, which is expected to launch next month, has already garnered the support of several major credit card issues, financial institutions, and retailers.

[Bank Innovation]

  • Luke Mulholland

    Wise the hell up PayPal.

    • AndroidDogHeatandSteelersFan

      It’s because of the Ebay CEO. He’s a dumbass

      • Kurt

        It’s Apple’s fault there is no deal with PayPal. Did you not read the article?

    • Kurt

      Wise up Apple. Time Cook and the gang are the scum here.

      • Samsung is basically Apples number 1 (or number 2 assuming Google is number 1) enemy. This is why Apple backed out of the deal. PayPal basically F****d Apple over by choosing to partner with Apples competition. It’s quite obvious that doing such a thing would have resulted in the jeopardising of the ongoing deal with Apple. PayPal should have waited before the Apple deal was finalised before speaking with Samsung.

  • Zunaid Ahmed

    Paypal would had more customers if they partnered with Apple. There are more iPhone 5s and 6 customers compared to note 4 and S5 (only two phone from samsung with fingerprint scanner). And I do serious believe Apple pay would have a wider use compared to Samsung and Google Wallet.

    • Eric

      Also, it has been proven that iOS users purchase more often and for greater amounts than Android users. This fact gets brought up every holiday season.

    • TwinSon

      Harsh reality is Android users don’t spend money on mobile. There’s a reason why every android phone is deeply discounted or apart of a BOGO sale. It’s great that there are affordable options for low income families and the like, but that doesn’t translate into any money after the point of sale.

      • @dongiuj

        You sound like somebody who’s trying to preach but without knowing the facts. Or just displaying pure ignorance.

      • TwinSon

        Lol just stop.

      • Annie Leonhardt

        There’s a reason a majority of Android apps are free. 😉 They can’t afford apps LOL they rather have their information sold so they can get the app free.

      • Kurt

        Vast majority of Appstore apps are free also. Quit being a fandork

      • Annie Leonhardt

        Would you like to compare the number of free apps droidsheep? Everyone knows the AppStore is FAR more profitable than the PlayStore by a WIDE margin…. Apple users actually pay for their Apps. We PAY developers … unlike you droidsheep… want everything free. Complain about the price of the phone, then brag about poor quality free apps. Cheap bums. Buy a real phone.

      • Kurt

        Don’t be a pathetic fandork. I prefer iOS.

      • Kurt

        By the way…my phone is better than the iphone 6 Plus and its already a year old. Fact.

      • Annie Leonhardt

        I think yours teachers did a poor job explaining to you the difference between fact and opinion. Stay in school man xD

      • Kurt

        But it’s fun to use fact when it’s an opinion. Drives fangirls and fanboys crazy.

      • TwinSon

        The majority of Android phones sold are budget phones at a low affordable price. That’s what Android caters to. ZTE, Huawei, Samsung, LG, HTC all move millions of low budget Android phones a year. Why? Because most people only care if their phone can go on the internet, has facebook, instagram, and a couple other apps and doesn’t cost them $500 out of pocket up front. Basic Market principles.

      • Boogaloo Burrito

        Probably because iOS users has a lot of little kids who want iAPs, college girls who want to take selfies, soccer mom’s who have nothing better to do and grandma who accidentally buys things by mistake.

        Need I say more?

      • Benjamin J Schwartz

        Please don’t.

    • javierE186

      Umm you do know the iPhone 5S won’t be getting Apple Pay right? It is only for the iPhone 6, iPhone 6 Plus and Apple Watch. Those are the only devices that have a NFC chip in them. I assume you can pair you 5S to the Apple Watch to make payments but again, the 5S won’t be able to do it alone.

      • Zunaid Ahmed

        It’s getting the apple pay but not touch payment, they can still pay for online purchases. If paypal worked with apple pay, you could imagine people buying stuff from Ebay just with a tap of a finger.

      • javierE186

        Well according to Apple’s website it is only compatible with the iPhone 6, 6 Plus and devices paired with the Apple Watch. It does not speak about online payments. Maybe in a future update of the service or iOS but as it currently stands I read it only works on the i6 devices and the Apple Watch

      • ishyg

        Hmmm I think they’ve shown in the keynote the ability to do online payments.

      • javierE186

        Again I don’t know about online payments, I know you can do in app payments with certain apps as for online I don’t know but Apple’s website only states NFC and in app payments with the iPhone 6, 6 Plus and iPhone 5/5C/5S paired with the Apple Watch.

      • Guest

        You’re thinking of Samsung, not Apple. Samsung can do it, not Apple.

      • ishyg

        Nope, never watched any of their keynotes, so no. I don’t care if Samsung can do it or not, it’s not part of the discussion.

      • Annie Leonhardt

        Apple Pay will also be an online payment solution like how Google Wallet is…

      • javierE186

        I believe their reason is because of the chip the i6 devices and the Apple Watch have inside that help keep the cards safe. The i5 devices do not have that chip

      • Zunaid Ahmed

        Yeah, probably

      • Riley Freeman

        it will get apple pay but require the watch

  • Chuck Giblin

    paypal is a crappy service
    I bought some dvds from ebay.
    they were counterfeit.
    I contacted paypal about the issue.
    they said there was nothing that they could do to get my money back.

    • chris125

      Well you have to go through eBay first. Duh…

      • AndroidDogHeatandSteelersFan

        that duh part was gold

      • Uhm, no you don’t need to go through eBay to dispute a fraudulent transaction…nice try in making a point.

    • Bugs Bunnay

      sucks for you. ebayer here since 2007. best deal was getting a brand spanking new catalytic converter bolt on (cali legal) for my car for less than half the price, free shipping, no tax, than any local stores around (oriely’s, autozone, etc). also got those super slim clear tpu case for my 6 and dang does it look clean as well as offer protection. dropped it on concrete a couple times already.

    • They let me down epically once on the loss of my £400 iPad that I sold. But their service does the trick and it’s very widely used on websites so it’s a good option for me to use

    • You made the payment with PayPal, they should have been able to direct you to the dispute section…it was probably a numbskull representative you got on the phone.

      If anything, I think PayPal is one of the best financial service for the internet…I’m never at the mercy of scammers since I began using them.

      • Kurt

        I’ve never had a problem with paypal or ebay. They fixed the problem and money was returned. One item took over a month to get, they returned my money. The item came the next day. I resent the money but noted the longggg shipping. Paypal, and ebay are great.

    • Rowan09

      As an eBay seller and buyer for years, once you agree to purchase an item you MUST read what you’re buying carefully. It’s a bidding contract.

      • Kurt

        Exactly, I’ve seen so many people complain in the feedback, and then when I look at the ebay item, it’s often written in red about what they are complaining about showing that the person didn’t even read the whole listing.

      • Rowan09

        So true. Some people are very misleading though, but such is life.

    • Antzboogie

      Learn how to buy and protect yourself. Seriously DVDs? Lol

  • Riley Freeman

    Fire the eBay CEO. He is clearly a moron

    • Rowan09

      PayPal is now splitting into its own entity and going public, so it’s actaully a new CEO that came from American Express calling the shots from now on (Dan Schulman).

  • TwinSon

    They screwed up majorly. It’s a fact that Android users as a whole spend significantly less amounts of money towards anything mobile related as opposed to iOS users. Android’s major market appeal is the extremely low cost of entry which translates into people not spending any money towards apps or accessories. Stupid mistake.

  • Brandon

    i am extremely glad paypal has nothing to do with apple pay.

  • @dongiuj

    I don’t think PayPal will be affected so much. It has eBay which has been working just fine for them so far. Let’s wait and see I guess.

    • TwinSon

      This is huge. Especially since Google Wallet has been a failure from the jump. Too many different makes and models of Android phones that are not able to use it that people currently own. 10 million iPhone 6s just got moved in a weekend, you think they aren’t upset they just missed that train? For what? Google Wallet is a pain in the ass at BEST. I remember when the only phones that could even use it was the Nexus and a Crappy LG phone on sprint.

      • @dongiuj

        PayPal for eBay doesn’t require any of this and has been doing fine without google wallet or whatever.

      • TwinSon

        “Google Wallet or Whatever” – case in point. Google Wallet is trash.

        And the part you’re missing is eBay is an online storefront. They just missed the boat for a variety of different vendors so they could grab the S5, which was a flop and the Note 4.

      • @dongiuj

        Is apple taking eBay and PayPal off of the App Store?
        By the way, are angry about something?

      • TwinSon

        Girl please. If you can’t comprehend the obvious consequences then trying to make light of it is ignorant.

      • @dongiuj

        Oh, ok then lol

      • @dongiuj

        I’m not trying to make a case point about google wallet. You are though. I never mentioned anything about google wallet, just you brought it up.

      • TwinSon

        You’re not making a point because you don’t even clearly know what you’re talking about. Even with all info right at your fingertips.

      • TwinSon

        Lol I just got to reading your comments. I’m sorry, but you’re an idiot who asks irrelevant questions in order to steer the topic in a direction where you don’t have to actually use your head. What does removing eBay or Paypal from the App Store have to do with anything? Like at all? Did they violate any obligations or terms to have their apps in the App Store? No. So stay on topic. What’s the Topic? Paypal choosing to go with Samsung as opposed to staying with Apple. Samsung doesn’t make anywhere near the amount of money Apple does after the point of sale. Paypal had a chance to penetrate the Apple Ecosystem, which by the way, basically eats up 2/3 of all profits made in the mobile sector at any given time period. Look it up. By VOLUME, Samsung sells more phones than Apple, but their highest selling phone is some budget phone on Boost Mobile. Apple makes more money per device than ANYONE. They’re consumers on average spend much more on accessories, apps, music, and online purchases than Android. The SMART move was Apple. That’s obvious. I normally don’t throw shade at people, but stop being a dumbass.

      • @dongiuj

        My point is, if the apps are still on the App Store and we’re able to use those apps then it should be alright. eBay and PayPal are online services. What good is NFC for online shopping? It’s a communication chip to work with other devices. So PayPal runs its business with a lot of online shopping. How are PayPal going to be affected negatively if the apps are still in use? NFC is not needed for its business…I would imagine. I’m sorry if I’m completely wrong about this. This is the reason I mentioned about the apps staying on the App Store, I wasn’t trying to change the topic in any way, shape or form.

      • TwinSon

        They’re missing the boat to be an Apple Pay Partner. Their 800K+ credit card bank. They’re missing out on every vendor who will accept Apple Pay. I use PayPal for all my online purchases and I would have used for all my in store purchases too. That’s significant. As a business, you’re supposed to leave the least amount of money on the table as possible. And they left ALOT. And I’m not some Apple Fanboy, but when the richest company on earth that has more cash on hand than the U.S. government wants to do business with you, you play ball.

      • Kaptivator

        “….. but when the richest company on earth that has more cash on hand than the U.S. government wants to do business with you, you play ball.”

        You said a mouth full with that one sentence. Apple is like the modern day mob, if they cant beat you…They buy you. When they approach you…you better listen. When they make an offer …You take it.

      • TwinSon

        Mob? How? They didn’t make PayPal an offer they couldn’t refuse. They made an offer PayPal shouldn’t have refused, but they did and went with the competition. I see no reason why Apple has to let PayPal have their cake and eat it too. It was just a bad decision.

      • Kaptivator

        I was agreeing with you…I never stated that they made PayPal an offer they couldn’t refuse. However, as you and I both stated…It was an offer that shouldn’t have been refused. As stated “…when they make an offer…You take it”. Mob meaning if they have something they want…They just buy out your company.

      • TwinSon

        Oh well in that case, yes Mob mentality. The only reason I could see as to why they refused is that Samsung gave them a bigger, but unguaranteed cut as opposed to Apple who’s deal may not have been as lucrative on the front end.

      • Bogey

        People spending more on Apple phones v Samsung isn’t relevant. It’s whether these users are more likely to use the technology in their phones to purchase something. Will they shop at the places accepting this technology. Macy’s, Walgreens, McDonalds, etc… That’s the key.

      • TwinSon

        Actually its completely relevant. Why? Because Apple is the only phone OEM that doesn’t discount their devices & people still buy them..they charge premium prices & people still pay them. That willingness to pay more for a device when you KNOW you can get something cheaper should speak volumes.

      • theemptyhead

        I think you got it wrong. According to this article Paypal didn’t chose to stay away from apple. It’s apple who backed out.
        Referring to this article what i think is paypal was trying to make the deal with both samsung and apple. Any businessman would do the same. All popular app developers are making their apps for both ios and android.
        You said it’s a smart move to go for Apple but i disagree. It’s not a smart move to go for one company only. One might make a lot from Apple but that doesn’t mean they don’t make anything from another company.
        Let’s say one can make 1 million partnering with apple. And one can make half a million from samsung. So, which one would be a smart move. A) 1 million, B) half million or C) 1.5 million(partnering with both). I think paypal was also going for option C. But apple betrayed for some stupid reason.
        It’s apple who acted like a jealous girl. Trying to make paypal suffer for doing partnership with samsung. Apple hates samsung. But why show their anger over paypal?
        Apple is the evil company and that’s the only thing i see in this article.

      • Rowan09

        How is Apple evil? PayPal is going public into its own entity, so why would Apple make them potentially millions while promoting the same thing for the competition? PayPal is still doing business with Apple just not involving Apple pay. Apple doesn’t hate Samsung don’t be fooled by the media, they still do business together. Everything is all about business and PayPal would have benefited more since they are splitting the company. Who in the right mind would choose business wise Samsung (which is still using Android, so people will still have to have Google wallet and services on their devices) over Apple? At the end of the day, it’s all about business.

      • theemptyhead

        What PayPal is doing with their business is not the matter of concern here. Let them do partnership with samsung or whoever they prefer.
        The article says apple backed out of the deal because PayPal is also partnering with samsung. The article here doesn’t say PayPal chose samsung over apple. They wanted to partner with both. Why do you think apple backed out? If it’s not their hatred for Samsung then give me a one good reason.
        If apple and PayPal does the partnership, it’ll not just benefit PayPal but it’ll also benefit apple and all the apple users too. It would have been a win win situation for everyone. Apple blew all those away for one reason. And that reason is samsung.
        Who is to suffer the most from this? It’s not just Paypal but also all those apple users who uses PayPal a lot.
        Like you said at the end of the day it’s all about the business. But apple does it in more evil ways.
        Why’s apple evil? Yesterday i read an article on gsm arena. One popular German’s blog did the bendgate test to show their viewer how fragile the device is. The video went viral. And guess what apple did. They called those bloggers and threatened them that they’ll not be invited in apple’s keynote event in future. And they’ll not get any device for free from Apple for testing purpose. Show any negative issue about apple they’ll threat you. Only a evil company does that and that’s apple.

      • Rowan09

        Let me get this right. Since Apple backed out of a deal which they are entitled to do they are evil and hate their consumers? You will still be able to use PayPal they are just not a partner for online Apple Pay payments. In regards to the “bend gate” nonsense, I read an article that Samsung released the Note 4 early to compete with the 6+ popularity and a lot of the phone have a huge gap between the screen and chassis. Where is the “gap gate” articles? I own a 6+ and so does my brother who does construction work with it in his pocket and its fine. Does that mean the phone isn’t less sturdy than the 5s? No we’ve seen the tests from consumer reports and it shows its not as fragile as people are making it out to be. Apple has a right to threaten a company trying to manipulate people into not purchasing a product because of some nonsense issue. Unbox therapy got almost 50 million views from the “bendgate” test because people are easily manipulated but the media. Any business has a right to protect their products.

      • theemptyhead

        I tried to show you the evil side of apple but idb deleted my comment. I guess idb wants to keep apple fans in the dark.

      • Rowan09

        I have your comment in my email and I read it. Have you ever ran a business before (not trying to disrespect you in way shape or form by the way)? The number 1 and only priority for any business (especially publicly traded businesses) is to make money. All the customer service, we care about the environment, etc marketing is all about making a company look good to get to the only important resource and that’s money. Once you understand that it’s all about the money, you’ll see that anything affecting getting that resource must be eliminated.

      • Guest

        “Google Wallet or Whatever” the whatever part is Apple Pay

      • Bugs Bunnay

        google wallet was so so for me, but apple pay… wow. all you got to do is whip out your 6/6+, and it takes a second to complete nfc transaction. genius. on android you gotta open your phone, unlock it, then use the google wallet, and may have to put in your passcode if you locked google wallet. i know google will update it to match apple pay real soon.

      • @dongiuj

        “Genius”? You obviously don’t know anything that has been happening for the past 7-8 years in Japan even before smartphones. I don’t know anything about google wallet and I couldn’t care less about it. But to say apple is a genius, they have basically copied the system being used in another country but adding an ID button to press on top of what is already an extremely a simple system.

      • Bugs Bunnay

        you’re right. I don’t know what japan has been doing in the past 7-8 years. I don’t know what Canada or Australia has been doing either. i’d also like to tell you I didn’t say apple is a genius. I said the idea is a genius. so far the only nfc transaction is done via google wallet so yea this new apple pay thing which can complete a transaction in a second is a genius idea. I don’t carry cash or coins mind you. and yea if a store don’t accept apple pay or credit card then I guess i’m shit out of luck. very well aware of that.

      • @dongiuj

        I can see you don’t know because so far the only NFC transaction is NOT done via google. My point I was making and if you read my comment properly you would have understood that. “Before smartphones”

      • Bugs Bunnay

        right, but we are talking about smartphones here and the improvements being put into it. so again, if you read my first comment right, nfc transaction on an iPhone = genius. I wouldn’t wanna carry an extra something just to do what japan could do years ago when at the time when a simple credit card swipe works just fine for me.

      • @dongiuj

        Tell me, exactly, about this “genius” thing you’re thinking. Read the last part you just said and then go and think about it before saying anything further.
        The “genius” part you mentioned was already thought of and implemented into everyday life 7-8 years before smartphones and continued on smartphones. You don’t need to carry anything extra, just your phone. Just touch the phone on the shop’s device and all paid for. No pushing buttons, no opening apps, nothing. All is charged to your mobile phone bill. Done, simple. Please explain “genius” to me again. Is the “genius” part just NFC on an iPhone? Is that all you’re trying to say?

      • Bugs Bunnay

        well you were talking to someone who does not know of this system in japan AND you didn’t even explain til now. and yes exactly what I meant when I said nfc on an iPhone, just simply nfc on an iphone. the genius part… don’t take it too seriously. it’s already obvious that smartphones, iPhone or not, has “borrowed” technology from other companies and/or countries.

      • @dongiuj

        My point exactly. I think you’re taking it seriously by making that “genius” comment.

      • Harold

        what a pain in the butt…. jesus… someone can’t just comprehend what one is saying! we are talking about apple pay and google wallet. NOBODY is talking about 7 or 1000 years ago. even a moron could understand that. Apple did it better than google or samsung. thats what we are talking about.

      • @dongiuj

        Maybe apple is going to do it better than google or samsung. It’s already happened 7-8 years ago…DUH. Can you comprehend what I’ve been saying?

      • Harold

        AGAIN, we are talking about google wallet and apple pay. no one gives a damn about who did it first
        a million years ago.

      • @dongiuj

        What ever lol

      • Harold

        yes, whatever felicia!

      • @dongiuj

        And felicia is?…

      • Harold

      • @dongiuj

        Wow! Your….sister?…mother?….you must be very proud. Thank you for sharing that with everyone here.

      • Harold

        bye felicia

      • Bugs Bunnay

        wow thank you. I thought I was being paranoid for a while. I simply said nfc on iPhone vs nfc on android. no more no less, but I guess someone flipped when I added the genius part and then spun it and said this tech/system was first made somewhere else. might as well say the annunaki were actually the first ones who create this similar system!

      • Harold

        you are very welcome! 🙂

      • @dongiuj

        Something new would have to be thought of here if it were to be called genius.

      • TwinSon

        He just said “all is charged to your mobile phone bill.” He doesn’t get it. That’s why he’s arguing. He’d rather commit to looking ignorant than accepting that he just doesn’t know that much about the topic.

        Apple incorporating NFC into their iOS devices is the push NFC needs to crack into the mainstream market. Android (Google) failed at this miserably despite having been first to add this feature into their devices.

        PayPal being an Apple Pay Partner would mean that when you PAY for items with Apple Pay, you could have the option of using your PayPal account instead of a CC. PayPal’s business would increase dramatically if people were using it in store and not just for online purchases. This is especially damning now that eBay is separating itself from PayPal.

        He’s focusing too much on the irrelevant material and not the big picture.

      • Kurt

        Everyone uses NFC here. I use to even pay for taxi fares and opening the door to get into my building. The Americas and Europe are very late to the game.

      • Kurt

        I use NFC to pay for items, taxi fares here in korea and even to get into my building.

      • @dongiuj

        But wait, EVERYONE is talking about google wallet!….for some reason, even though it wasn’t mentioned in the article.

      • Kurt

        Oh sorry….Google wallet is crap. No one has used Apple Pay but it is the best! Don’t forget, Samsung sucks!

    • Antzboogie

      Paypal and Ebay are splitting.

      • @dongiuj

        But you will still be able to use PayPal on eBay.

  • iPodDroid

    Sounds like Apple’s butthurt with PayPal for choosing their rival competitor. When will Apple learn to accept they can always get what they want?

    • @dongiuj

      *can’t always get what they want* is what you mean, right?

      • iPodDroid

        Stupid auto correct… Yeah that’s what I meant thanks for the correction!

  • theemptyhead

    Why do apple have to back out? They really have to cut the company out of applepay altogether just because they have relation with samsung? Shouldn’t apple think about the consumer first? Apple cares about it’s ego and pride more than its consumer. And their consumers are so blind that they can’t see anything wrong with apple.
    Blogs like the verge and few other apple favored blogs cannot write anything negative about apple because they fear from Apple.
    Do it my way or else you’ll die. That must be the motto of apple. Isn’t that called dictatorship?

    • I was thinking the same. Especially since some of the iPhone’s components are built by Samsung

    • Haha, very well said! Expect iDB to delete your post soon…

      • Kurt

        See my reply to him please!

    • Rowan09

      It’s called business my friend. PayPal is now going public and becoming it’s own entity away from EBay. If Apple did business with them while they are doing business with their direct competitor who wins? PayPal not Apple,especially since they are looking for the the extra cash for splitting into its own publicly traded company. You will still be able to use PayPal, but not with Apple Pay transactions on the web if I’m understanding correctly.

    • Kurt

      Are you familiar with Leo Laporte? I mentioned him on IDB a few times. He is known as the TechGuy. Owner of Twit. He is absolutely a Apple fanboy. But he will talk about negative issues dealing with Apple where needed. So because of that he NEVER gets invited to Apple Keynotes! He has been blacklisted. Smart idea? No, he has the number 1 rated tech podcast/vidcast. Millions of listeners on the radio/internet/. He has shows dedicated to the iPhones, other shows dedicated to the iPad (iPad Today), other shows dedicated to Macs (Mac Weekly). He said he has been blacklisted because he mentions the negative aspects about Apple’s products when he does reviews. There is a great deal of money from advertisement when you do reviews (not from that company but other companies because of the views the review will get) so Leo is as honest as possible so he has as much credibility as possible-which translates to more views, more money from advertisers. Apple doesn’t like honesty! Anyone who gets invited to the keynotes are people who don’t mention the negative things.

      • That totally makes sense and fits my speculations about both the Verge and iDB…I knew there’s a reason why iDB and the Verge didn’t cover the iBend issue.

        See how the iVerge was showing it’s professionalism on YouTube (bit ly/1tkvYCv). It’s a very long Awesome Screenshot image of the conversation webpage, so, you’ll have to save and open it in a local Picture viewer and zoom into it to see the text properly.

      • Kurt

        Awesome, I’ll check it out when I get on a computer. In bed with the iPad now. Thanks! About iDB, I always thought they do a good job covering these type of news. As good as a group of fanboy writers could do. They did a much better job than say imore. I never posted to that site and never will. So I was really surprised they were avoiding the topic for so long. Did you see the video of the two 11 year olds bend a iPhone in an apple store in the UK? Such weak little kids doing it with ease.

  • Dao Sasone

    I used paypal for everything. Dont matter if im on ios or droid. All you need to do is download the app. I dont see why this is an issue what so ever. Just because it isnt implemented into the phone doesn’t mean it will be affected. People will find ways to use what they prefer.

    • @dongiuj

      Exactly the point I was making but somebody commenting on what I said doesn’t seem to understand that.

    • Kurt

      I don’t think NFC will take off on the phone/tablets. It’s just not the easiest way to do it. Too many steps. But what I like about Apple Pay is the store doesn’t get all your info.

  • Ian Leon

    all this political crap between companies is a huge inconvenience for the customer APPLE!! I want to pay with paypal dude

  • sosarozay300

    why would anyone choose a partnership with shamesumg over a partnership with apple? lol

    • Kurt

      Well Shamesung does make better phones. But the real question is, did Apple cry the blues or did paypal and shamesung deal not allow other companies to use paypal?

  • GuyWithTheThings

    Where did Samsung get this idea for a mobile payment system using a fingerprint scanner?

    • GuyWithTheThings

      Oops sorry guys I misspelled Samesung.

  • WolfgangHoltz

    Don’t be worry PayPal Apple Pay is no threat to your system just play your cards right and they will come and begging for your help.

    • Tobias9413

      I think you mean the other way around? Apple doesn’t have to worry and PayPal will go begging for help.

  • Haha, Apple making all moves to distance itself from Samsung, can’t blame them. Samsung hurt their feelings in many ways…but then again, it was due to Apple being anti-competitive and suing them.

  • mike

    Let’s take a moment instead to point out the usual genius in naming articles: “www.idownloadblog…/apple-no-like-samsung-paypal/”

    • aw81

      Good catch lol

  • Annie Leonhardt

    PayPal is pure GARBAGE… for sellers lol

    • Bugs Bunnay

      damn straight. fee wise that is

      • Annie Leonhardt

        Seller protection that is. Ahh, the nightmares of selling on Ebay. PayPal heavily favors the buyer.

      • TwinSon

        Hell yea it does. Last time I sold anything on ebay was my HTC One X. Sold it for $350 but when eBay and PayPal got done with me i Barely collected $300.

  • Harold

    Sooner or later it will come to apple pay…. idk why everyone is stressing out about this

  • PayPal is a worlwide company that processes payments. If the idiots at PayPal used their heads they’d have realised that them being a partner could be somewhat useful to bringing Apple Pay to the rest of the world (i.e everything that isn’t the United States

    • Kurt

      “but when PayPal partnered with Samsung for Galaxy S5 payments, Apple backed out”

      “And Apple, for its part, was said to be so furious with PayPal after this, that it cut the company out of Apple Pay altogether”

      Why are you not mad at apple? Sounds like Apple is the immature idiot.

      • It’s not Apples fault PayPal chose to partner with Samsung.

      • Kurt

        Blame Apple. They stopped the deal.

      • Well of course they did. If I’m in business with you and then I go behind your back to negotiate with one of your biggest competitors are you going to just stand there and do nothing or are you going to take drastic and necessary action to make a statement that you do not stand for companies negotiating deals behind your back with your competitors. The PayPal and Samsung deal is something Apple should have known about, they didn’t know about it and now PayPal is paying the price for it.

      • Kurt

        Maybe I’m not seeing things right. So correct me if I’m off. But how I see it is, who cares that Samsung has a deal with Paypal. Is it exclusive? Obviously no. So here is where you can correct me, It shouldn’t affect Apple and it’s costomers if Samsung has a deal with them ALSO. Paypal has a deal with Samung, Paypal has a deal with Apple. You now have two devices that can pay in their own way. So, I’m still not sure why we should be mad at paypal and not Apple. If I were PayPal I would make deals with everyone. Apple looks like a communist dictator. Only use Apple Pay and no one else solutions. Again, I’ve I’m missing an important detail that please correct me.

      • The way I see it is as a business you don’t want to be dealing with people that deal with your competitors unless you really have to. PayPal would have more to gain by working with Apple than they would with working with Samsung. I think Apple is just trying to reassert their position and show PayPal that Apple is the top dog and not Samsung. It’s an issue to do with control although I wouldn’t go as far as to say “Apple is a communist dictator”. Apple is just in the kindest possible way reminding PayPal that they don’t need them and can do without them…When you think of things from a business perspective it makes a lot more sense since Apple doesn’t need PayPal however PayPal needs Apple. If they are to work with Apple they’ll likely need to stop co-operating with key Android OEMs such as Samsung or tone it down and put Apple first or at the very least tell Apple about such deals before going ahead with them…
        TLDR; Apple is simply reminding PayPal who calls the shots, PayPal needs Apple more than Apple needs PayPal and they’ll likely need to do some serious thinking if they want to get back in Apples good books…

  • Tnt4ever

    paypal is a shit company. they must not be with apple.

    • Kurt

      But Apple wanted to be but became a cry baby when they made a deal with Samsung too that Apple cut them out of Apple pay. We should be pissed off at Apple for being a bunch of elitist scum.

  • Tim

    I don’t see why apple still can’t partner with PayPal. That means in future every major retailer partnered with Samsung apple users can’t enjoy NFC. Trying to monopolize this whole NFC payment system is just bad for consumers. Bad Apple

  • Xee

    Being saying for last couple of years that Paypal is a law unto themselves and need to be regulated.

  • moofer

    800k?! You’re only off by a factor of 1000. Apple has 800M credit cards of file.

  • Guest

    The CEO must be a dumbass.

  • The CEO of eBay is a complete dumbass.

  • TwinSon

    What’s most likely going to happen is after Apple Pay takes off and NFC payments become mainstream, PayPal will try to become an Apple Pay partner. At this point, Apple is going to price gouge the hell out of the them for going with Samsung, and Pay Pal will begrudgingly accept.

    Hopefully it takes off. I remember when I first got my HTC One M7 on T-Mobile in May of 2013. I was so excited to use google wallet and not have to carry my wallet anymore only to find out it wasn’t supported by T-Mobile. Mastercard PayPass didn’t work either and there were only a handful of places (Lowes, Circle K, McDondalds) that would even accept NFC payments.

  • C’mon eBay, way to screw things up…

    As for PayPal, is this going to effect purchases inside of the iTunes Store? I have PayPal set as my payment option for iTunes, and I wanna keep it that way.

  • WaterTrooper

    This is my option, but it seems like PayPal is failing big time. They are now dividing eBay and PayPal into tow seperate companies…

  • Jordan Mehmet

    It’s a lose-lose for both sides. Eventually Apple will probably come to their senses if Apple Pay adoption isn’t adequate.

  • Dan

    This was too bad. I would like to see both Samsung and apple to partner up with PayPal. It would have been a perfect statistics view to see which phones are being used the most for making these kind of payments.