iphone 5 home button

Hot on the heels of AllThingsD’s report that Apple will be holding its iPhone event on September 10, comes a new note from KGI Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo regarding the handset. Kuo, as most of you know, has been very accurate with Apple intel in the past.

This time around, the analyst is calling for the iPhone 5S to feature a sapphire-covered convex Home button. Kuo believes the protruding convex shape (as opposed to concave) will provide enough room for a fingerprint sensor, and the sapphire will protect it…

From the note (via MacRumors):

Convex home button creates space for fingerprint sensor; yield to improve. We think that a fingerprint sensor will be placed under the home button of iPhone 5S. However, assembling it could be difficult as the space under home button is limited as it already has to accommodate the Lightning connector, speaker and microphone. Thus, we think the shape of the home button could be changed from concave to convex to create more space for a fingerprint sensor.

Sapphire prevents home button from being scratched. A convex home button could be more easily scratched, so a harder material is required. We believe Apple will switch from plastic to sapphire, whose hardness is second only to diamond. Sapphire would protect the home button from being scratched and the fingerprint sensor from being damaged.”

Kuo goes on to say that Apple will utilize RF and capacitive technology from AuthenTec for its fingerprint sensor, rather than the common optical recognition used in others. This will give them an advantage over the competition, as it’s less susceptible to damage.

Back in May, TechNews published a report quoting Apple supply chain sources calling for a sapphire crystal Home button in the iPhone 5S. We were skeptical at the time, as the site had no previous track record, but obviously Kuo’s note adds weight to the story.

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It’s worth pointing out, though, that we haven’t seen any sapphire-covered Home buttons out in the wild. And the convex shape would seemingly keep the iPhone from laying flat. But given the references found in iOS 7, folks feel the fingerprint sensor is a sure thing.

In addition to the sensor, the iPhone 5S is also expected to feature a faster processor (perhaps of the A7 variety), and an improved camera with a dual-LED flash. It’s believed that Tim Cook and company will unveil the new handset at an event on Tuesday, September 10.

  • vs511

    Can’t wait for this Apple event! It’s been almost a year since the last hardware-oriented keynote.

    As a sidenote, sorry to do this again but, “Kuo, as most of you, has been”?

    • Antzboogie

      What if I dont want my iPhone to take my fingerprint? I hope you can turn this feature off. Just a matter of personal security.

  • Michael Zhang

    *Rumour has it that Apple’s announcing new iPhones in September.

    Let the crazy reports/rumours begin.

  • Alexander Bus

    If fingerprint scan takes less than a second – I’m all for it. No lock screen if you wake up phone with home button would be cool.

  • Question

    Cool

  • Dri

    another way for the goverment to get fingerprint in their systems

    • TekNoah

      it starts at birth.

    • n0ahcruz3

      Like teknoah said, Goverment already has your fingerprint. Passport, ID, green card etc. all this require biometrics fingerprint identification.

      • Dri

        Im from Europe, here we don’t use fingerprint for those thing. Did not now you did in the US

      • n0ahcruz3

        Yup here in US they do that specialy at the Airports immigration.

      • Dri

        Well you learn something new everyday:)

  • abdullah575

    I can’t wait for the offtcial realase for iOS 7 GM !!

    • Dri

      go get the beta if you can’t wait

      it’s pretty stable beta 5

      • Hatori Hanzo

        No UDID registration needed?

      • Dri

        Nope. Just google it or go to youtube and see how to do it

      • Mac_Guy

        You sleeeeeep

      • Tim Murphy

        Nope 😀

  • Chayuth

    Convex = prone to damage
    I don’t buy this rumour.

    • Zaidan Umar

      You didn’t read past the heading did you?

      • Chayuth

        I did read so I commented. To make more clear, it doesn’t make sense for Apple to compromise design for usage. If the parts don’t fit, what Apple would do is try the ways to make them fit, or do not include such feature at all, not just make a room for it and try to cover with slightly-harder material.

      • Zaidan Umar

        Here’s the deal, the home button like everyone knows gets spoilt fast. But now pointing it out wards will allow equal distribution of force while pressing it. This “COULD” lead to the home button not breaking at all.
        Secondly, like said in the article, sapphire will protect it from even any scratches!

    • Maxim∑

      I dont buy it either. Apple has a large series of patents showing that it will be placed on the display. Also I assume a curved surface like that would distort the image for the scanner and people with big thumbs might not even touch the base of the home button

  • Well_Said

    Yawn

  • Sokrates

    the elimination of passwords? that would be huge.

  • Well_Said

    LG G2 or nothing

    • planetcoalition

      Why are you here then?

    • Yash Gorana

      oh i can’t wait to spank you when any of your “ANDROID DEVICE” copies this fingerprint sensor-in-phone technology.

      • Dani Hayes

        Motorola Atrix already had it.

      • Jeff Mason

        Who cares? Oh right, noone…
        I’m trying to say, everybody obsesses over the latest phone and fights over ‘which is better’, when all they need to do is have the ability to call…

      • Dani Hayes

        I was pointing out that Motorola already had a phone with a finger-print sensor to someone that clearly did not know about it.

        Maybe next time you can direct your comments else were and direct them to something relevant of your topic instead of jumping in with irrelevant comments.

      • Welp

        As Dani stated, Motorola made a phone around 2 years ago that already had a finger print scanner. This phone was also running Android.

    • Juan Herrera

      So you’re aiming to hate your phone?

    • Maxim∑

      LG G2 snapdragon 800 2.23Ghz STILL LAGS….

      • mehrab

        Never liked LG

      • Welp

        The LG G2 isn’t even out yet.

  • Antzboogie

    I dont want my fingerprint to be taken. This is weird I just realized this.

  • Matt Dowdy

    I read somewhere that it may get integrated into the screen somehow which would suit the iPhone design better than a sticky out button

  • seyss

    what happened to the in-screen fingerprint sensor

    • John Sklikas

      You know this is impossible right?

      • seyss

        why is it?

      • Maxim∑

        its not, he doesn’t know what he is talking about. It was already done with authentecs technology apple bought them last year for 358 million dollars. I think apple will put in the display for sure

      • John Sklikas

        Did they? Because the on-screen was actually on glass technology and this makes a great difference. The swipe-able and traditional sensor is obviously not possible, because this means you could use the screen in only 1 direction and if you do otherwise, you will scratch your finger when swiping. The other the glass uses laser and the problem with laser is that a screen already emits some light so you can’t have screen and laser at the same time. This means the part of the screen below your finger should become black during the scan, something that I find unlikely. Also it is very expensive if not impossible to place a laser emitter next to every light source. Now if you know anything else, I will be really happy to recall my statement, but from the technologies I know this is impossible. Again I’m more than happy to recall my statement, but I would like a link or something like this please 🙂

      • John Sklikas

        See my reply to MaximΣ

      • Maxim∑

        sure, sorry for my aggressive reply. this is the title of the patent filed by apple, it explains how the technology would work. I believe this possible thanks to there authentec purchase last year. I cannot post links without it asking for approval. “FINGER SENSOR HAVING PIXEL SENSING CIRCUITRY FOR COUPLING ELECTRODES AND PIXEL SENSING TRACES AND RELATED METHODS “

      • John Sklikas

        Thanks, I read the patent’s description and I can see that this could work now, thanks for writing the title as is, I found the patent right away 🙂

  • Timothy

    Another problem here is that a convex home button would make accidental presses (for example, in one’s pocket) much more frequent, to the point that every few steps in tighter-fitting jeans could turn on the lock screen. Over time that could significantly drain battery life.

    • Stefano

      This wouldn’t happen. You would need direct skin/artificial surface contact

      • batongxue

        He meant situations in which the home button got pressed accidentally.
        Remember, it is still a clickable button.

      • Maxim∑

        not everyone thumb will directly contact the bottom of the home button which is why I still believe its in the display

      • Stefano

        Very true

  • Zaidan Umar

    I hope that your able to scan your finger in any angle, meaning you don’t have to place your finger in any particular way for the phone to read it!

  • batongxue

    No way! Convex home button would totally ruin the nice sense of touch.
    Jony Ive would not approve it, whether sapphire or not, even it is covered by diamond.

  • n0ahcruz3

    Yeah what difference does it make putting sapphire on the home button? Like what they did with the lens cover puttting sapphire but with the same shitty 8mp camera To justify for an upgrade lol

    • Juan Herrera

      Being that you’re bound to lay your iphone flat, having a sapphire lens is a good adjustment… Unless you want a highly scratched camera lens.. And the 8mp cam on the iPhone is still the most used cell cam out there, raising the MP doesn’t automatically guarantee better picture quality. Also, not everyone’s a camera whore to feel the need for higher. It’s preference in the end.

      • n0ahcruz3

        Having a higher mp is a novelty, its one of those things that u dont really need but its good to have. Which would u prefer an 8mp or 13mp?

      • Dani Hayes

        It all depends on the lens and other aspects of the camera. Simply comparing megapixels is unjust.

      • n0ahcruz3

        Yes its not about the pixels but its about the optics. Apple didnt really put a sapphire on the lens. Its the lens cover not the camera lens.

      • Juan Herrera

        I’m quite fine with the 8mp really, but if 13mp is done well, i wouldn’t mind it. I wouldn’t choose simply due to the higher mp count though. Lenses also play a big part in the photos. I think my 4S and 5 both took great pics as far as my needs for pics. Some prefer more from their camera and there are phones that cater to that like the new Lumia.. I personally don’t like windows mobile so the camera is the only draw in the phone has for me and i just don’t care for picture snapping that much but that’s my preference

  • Taf Khan

    I would rather have wireless charging than a finger print sensor.

    • Maxim∑

      real wireless charging or the BS inductive charging?

    • Powermat? Or you want real wireless charging?

      • Taf Khan

        Real would be nice but not likely to happen.

        I wanna charge whilst I talk! 😀

  • Kenny Woodard

    This would be a big hardware change on an “S” model and we haven’t seen anything in the line of leaks for it. I don’t buy it. They may test it on the 5s the way it is and then depending on the results put the new design on the 6.

  • ℤ̵̪͊α̵̢͆ḉ̴̢̒Ħ̸͕̒α̸̺̌ḉ̵̭̆к̶̫͠

    I wonder if they can make a waterproof case that will have functuallity

  • Marcus Hennings

    Not to sound like a jerk but why is this so big let’s say you don’t us a passcode to lock your phone like i don’t. Then why is this the “next big thing” for the iPhone. Someone please try an explain to me why this is a reason to upgrade

    • Dani Hayes

      In the event you lose or someone steals your iPhone. If someone discovers your pass code.

    • Rowan09

      The government is pressuring Apple and other companies to deter thieves. This is a security feature which is not a gimmick because its going to be used to protect your phone.

  • Jeff Mason

    I would love them to make the screen better…
    Like maybe out of Plexiglas or something that ensures your device isn’t screwed if you accidentally dropped it.

  • Fuk Yuu Too

    This is the most ridiculous rumor, i’ve ever read. Convex Homebutton? That’s just plaintoe stupid

  • This makes me laugh to think if there are problems with it after release. Thumbgate perhaps? “You’re pressing it wrong.”