iPhone 5S vs iPhone 5 (MacRumors 001)

MacRumors last week shared a genuinely-looking photograph believed to picture the back of the iPhone 5S. Virtually identical to the current iPhone 5, the image did tell us that Apple’s upcoming S-upgrade will sport dual-LED flash for better low-light photos, especially coupled with a rumored twelve-megapixel camera. Today, the publication posted a new high-resolution photo suggesting that the upcoming iPhone revision could run a brand new A7 chip rather than a variant of the existing A6 silicon powering Apple’s latest-generation iPhone and iPad…

The top image depicts a prototype iPhone 5S on the left and the current iPhone 5 on the right.

As for the chip, MacRumors observes:

As seen in one photo, the chip carries an Apple model number of APL0698, suggesting that this is indeed intended to be branded as an A7 chip rather than a modification on the A6 chip found in the iPhone 5.

The original A6 chip carried a model number of APL0598, with the A6X found in the fourth-generation iPad carrying an APL5598 model number, demonstrating how Apple varies the first digit for members of a given A-series family and increments the second digit when transitioning to a new family.

Other takeaways include 1GB of Elpida RAM (the same amount seen on the A6) and late-September 2012 manufacturing date based on markings on the chip (making it a rather early prototype).

Dick James and Jim Morrison of chip teardown firm Chipworks were able to determine that a K1A0062 identifier could indicate a new manufacturing source because previous chips had identifiers typically starting with an “N”, which referred to a Samsung part number on the die.

A rumor out of Taiwan this morning suggested that Apple has indeed cut a three-year deal with TSCM to produce next-gen mobile chips for iPhones, iPads and iPods, beginning with the A8 chip in early 2014.

Apple could also be bringing in TSMC as a backup supplier given Samsung’s contract won’t expire until next year and knowing it invested big bucks into technology and capacity of its Austin, Texas facility that exclusively churns out chips for Apple.

iPhone 5S (dual LED flash, MacRumors 001)

There has been some commotion whether or not Apple will introduce a new mobile chip revision with the iPhone 5S or opt for a small ‘X-type’ upgrade. If history is anything to go by, the iPhone 5S should run the A7 chip indeed, just like prior S-upgrades.

For example, the iPhone 4 was based on the A4 chip, but the iPhone 4S was powered by the more powerful A5 package. In fact, each new iPhone since the iPhone 4 has had a major new A-series chip, with iPads getting revised versions of these chips with more powerful graphics and higher-clocked CPU.

Last year’s iPad 3, for example, debuted with the A5X chip inside, which was replaced with the speedier A6X silicon that powers the fourth-generation iPad. The A6X chip itself is a more powerful version of the A6 silicon that powers the iPhone 5.

Therefore, it’s fairly safe to assume that the next iPhone – the iPhone 5S – will run the A7 chip, with the faster A7X variant likely to make its way inside the iPad 5.

The question is, will Apple be able to get away with another S-upgrade?

  • JomanJi

    I think this might be my time to upgrade from my iPhone 4….

    • βRIGHTIΣ

      from 3GS here…

      • Steve Jobs

        me to from the iphone 4 or my maybe i change to the best smartphone on the market the htc one.

      • JomanJi

        Meh, I’d rather go w/ the GS4 if not the 5S…

      • Steve Jobs

        go with the htc one it’s a much more better quality smartphone! or do you like plastic??

      • JomanJi

        I’m with you that the htc one is a more high quality phone, but htc has never really appealed to me, sorry

      • Steve Jobs

        yeah the GS4 is an awesome phone too for real but i don’t like the plastic.

      • JomanJi

        Me neither, thats why I go with the iPhone 🙂

      • Jerry

        damn bro I have to give it to you for holding this long with the 3gs lol

  • Linton Findlay

    im just hoping for something other than a better processor and camera. better battery? NFC? Liquapel type technology?

    • Guest

      Apple will put a better camera, A7 chip, maybe a slightly better battery, and then purposely slow down your current iPhone with iOS 7 so they can tell you the iPhone 5S is twice as fast.

      EDIT: Keep thumbing me down. I’ve used several iDevices since iOS 2.0, and it’s extremely obvious Apple slows down the older iOS devices on purpose.

      • Rowan09

        “Apple” doesn’t slow down devices. It’s obvious that all companies want you to upgrade but new software means the current phone, computer, etc most have a minimum amount of RAM, etc to be compatible. Ths has nothing to do with Apple. I have 3GS which came out like 4 years ago if I remember correctly and it can still run the newest OS which is an amazing thing in technology. 4 year old tech ages faster than any other field.

      • Guest

        Here’s my go-to example.

        I had an iPod Touch 4th generation around the time it came out. It shipped with iOS 4, and it ran fast. After iOS 5 came out, Apple surprisingly didn’t release an iPod Touch 5th generation. I upgraded my 4th generation to iOS 5, and it still ran like it did with iOS 4. Then, iOS 6 comes around. Apple unveils the 5th generation iPod Touch, and I upgrade my 4th generation to iOS 6. Then, I noticed a big performance drop.

      • Rowan09

        I understand but that’s like going from Windows XP to Windows 7 and think you laptop won’t move slower that’s technology for you it’s not an “Apple”thing is what I was really getting to.

      • Guest

        Well, I get it’s not an Apple thing, but I truthfully believe Apple purposely slows down it’s older devices to make you want to buy the newer ones. Even BusinessInsider thinks they do.

      • jilex

        i think that too, but not only apple, every company does the same thing, just to keep selling, the make their products “die” before time

      • Kurt

        I agree. My windows 8 computers runs faster than it did on win 7, and when it was upgraded to win 7 from vista it ran faster. Thats how OSes should be. They help your devices run faster. But mobile OSes are different as they want you to purchase a new device.

      • Gorgonphone

        You are 2000000 % right again

      • Gorgonphone

        You are 1000000% right … You should always stay on the last jaibroken ios version for your device

  • Guest

    You guys realize Apple probably ‘leaks’ this stuff on purpose? They never really had anything leak before the iPhone 4, and they realized how much these tech blogs end up covering these ‘leaks’, which is free advertising for them, which builds up hype, which leads fanboys to go buy a phone that is slightly better with little aesthetic improvements, and still years behind some of its competition.

    • Rafael Rafael

      Lol. Years behind? How old are you?

      • Guest

        I’m not going to tell you how old I am, but you can surely take a guess. Yes, iOS is years behind some other mobile OS. It’s lacking a lot of basic, but useful features. iOS 7 is FINALLY adding quick toggles. I mean, come on, if you really think iOS is the most advanced mobile OS, you obviously haven’t used some of the other ones, or you just buy into Apple’s BS marketing.

      • Obsidian71

        Quick Toggles is advanced???? It’s pretty clear your knowledge of technology is superficial at best.

      • Guest

        You clearly didn’t read my comment. I said it even lacks some basic features, then stated it just got quick toggles. Try again.

      • Guest

        Funny how this comment is getting voted down as well. I don’t understand how this could get voted down, I was just telling this guy he read my comment wrong, which he obviously did. I said iOS even lacked basic functions like quick toggles until now.

      • Rowan09

        I’ve used all (Android, IOS, Windows) except the new BB10 and I would like you to tell me what’s more advance on the other OS? Most of the features on Android phones are phone specific its not solely in the OS.

      • Guest

        One of the coolest features that I haven’t really seen on any other phones that I use quite a bit on BB10 is the screen sharing during video chat. It takes a feature I already used on my desktop, and finally put it on a phone. Very handy, IMO.

    • Guest

      Funny how my comment is getting voted down. I have a feeling if I would’ve left the fanboy stuff out, it would’ve gotten voted up. Oh well.

  • Boss

    The question is, will Apple be able to get away with another S-upgrade?

    No phones like the HTC One make the iPhone 5 look like a toy

    It’s about time Apple bring out a 4.5-4.9 inch screen bigger battery and lots of new features not found on other smart phones

    • Guest

      If Apple reveals a 4.5 inch screen, it would be hilarious to see fanboys backtracking on their hypocritical comments. They already claim phones one the HTC One and Samsung Galaxy S4 are ‘too big’ for their pockets, regardless of never using them. If Apple also revealed some new features that other phones have already had for years, mindless fanboys would say the other companies copied Apple. It’s just the way the cookie crumbles, I guess.

      • Rafael Rafael

        Lol. And Americans were supposed to be smart with all their tech and shit. Just hilarious some comments from Android fans.

      • Guest

        I am pretty smart with technology (IMO), I’m just not a fanboy. I also find it funny that your ‘one-way thinking’ instantly assumes I am an Android fanboy. Nope, not at all. I have used iOS since 2.0, Android since 2.3, Windows Phone 8, and I am currently using the Blackberry Z10. Try to think of another reason I don’t like iOS.

      • Pitchy

        Gee, impressive! You basically just insulted 320 million people over the opinion of one person. That’s like me taking your post and automatically assuming everyone in Europe is a complete douche nugget.

      • Rowan09

        The S4 is the same size as the S3 which is as big as I would like to see a phone. 6.3 Samsung Mega is just plain stupid. What new features are there from Gingerbread to Jellybean?

      • Guest

        The S4 actually has a bigger screen than the S3. I would have to agree the 6.3 inch is getting a little ridiculous, but that’s why it’s considered a phablet. There have actually been quite a bit of changes from Android 2.3 to Android 4.2 (a lot more changes than Apple had from iOS 2-iOS 6). I’m not going to sit here and list them all (because there are literally hundreds), but one of the more notable ones in 4.2 is the lockscreen widgets, which is surprisingly handly. I’m sure you can look up every single change between 2.3-4.2 on Wikipedia or something.

      • Rowan09

        The change wasn’t that drastic please go and look for yourself. After Gingerbread Ice Cream sandwich just merged Gingerbread and Honeycomb together. The OS is basically the same since 2.3. Companies like Samsung, Motorola, etc add on to the software with their own special features but the raw OS is basically the same. It’s the same with IOS but based on the fact that IOS came out with no notification center, no multitasking, no Siri, no iMessage it’s actually been changed more than Android due to the fact that after 2.3 most of these features were already there. IOS 7 now is a big improvement upon the IOS software but instead of looking at it as a big improvement over IOS software we compare it with Windows, Androif, BB10, etc and that’s not a fair comparison in my opinion.

      • Guest

        It’s not a fair comparison because iOS is behind every other major mobile OS is basically what you just told me.

        Congratulations?

      • Rowan09

        No I didn’t Notification center been around since IOS and multitasking been around since IOS 4 I believe it was. All those revolutionary features available for Android or Windows are? There are none while the BB10 has screen sharing with a video call most people will not use it and there may be an application that allow you to do the same thing on all the other OS. Android specially still doesn’t have a search function like on the iPhone for find all your files. I guess Android is way behind because it doesn’t have that simple feature huh? My point is almost all these OS are getting pretty much close with basic functions, it’s the whole experience and App Store that makes one better than the other in my opinion.

      • Guest

        ” IOS 7 now is a big improvement upon the IOS software but instead of looking at it as a big improvement over IOS software we compare it with Windows, Androif, BB10, etc and that’s not a fair comparison in my opinion.”

        That sounds like you saying the comparison isn’t fair because the other OS are more advanced. Well, since you think most people won’t use screen sharing on BB10, then I’ll follow up with my own comment similar to yours saying most people don’t use Spotlight search. Although Android doesn’t have this feature, it doesn’t make it far behind. This is because it still has many features that iOS doesn’t have.

        For example, let’s talk about the lockscreen. It’s a nice little part of the phone where you could look at some quick information if you don’t feel like unlocking your phone, right? Well, in the case of iOS, wrong. iOS 7 finally added the ability to view notification center on the lockscreen, but iOS still can’t add anything else from the App Store that could be useful such as Quick Reply, weather, or anything else.

      • Rowan09

        What are these features? Do you own an Android? I own three so please tell me these features? Screen sharing is a feature people will always use? Spotlight search is not important? The reason people refine any OS is for simplicity and the user experience.

      • Kurt

        jellybean has the best lock screen hands down

      • Jason

        I have an S3 and for me its way too wide, both in the hand and in my pockets. I bought it as it was cheap on Orange and I wanted to see whether Android had improved from my SII. But after seeing it I will be moving along near Xmas, as that’s always a good time to shift phones n eBay.

        My iphone 5, is also a bit big too IMHO, but I like the phone a lot. That coupled with an ipad make the perfect companions, and play well with OS X.

      • Guest

        You know what, that’s O.K. I respect that, and you know why? Because you said it’s your opinion, and you didn’t try to pass it off as a fact. If the phone isn’t for you, it’s not for you! Simple as that! Anyone can use the iPhone if they want to. I’m not trying to make anyone switch to any other OS, I’m just stating the obvious.

      • puggsly

        Will you find it equally humors if the S4 mini out sells the S4?

        There is not a 1 size fits all, but there is one size that fits what the largest block of consumers prefer based on the tradeoff of size vs screen. Apple has determined that 3.5 is not the sweet spot and is trying 4. If they remove a little more bezel and get it to 4.3 or larger, will that be some sort of vindication for Samsung in your eyes?

        That said, this will almost absolutely be a 5s upgrade year with a 4 inch display and a stomping fast A7 CPU that will best the competition in general performance and crush it in Graphics performance. Android users will say it is not enough, and Apple will sell a bazillion of them with shortages through Christmas.

        The only potential surprise is that this year Apple may put the A6 based iPhone5 into a cheaper case and offer up a $400 retail phone that is free with contract and try to push it’s market share numbers with that.

      • Guest

        I’m going to divide my response into portions.

        1.) Get back to me when the S4 mini outsells the normal S4. I don’t recall the S3 mini doing that well, so I wouldn’t be surprised if this doesn’t sell weel either.

        2.) I know there isn’t a ‘1 size fits all’ for phones, and I don’t think the largest consumer block is 3.5 or 4 inches either. (By the way, Apple must have though 3. inches was a sweet spot, because they stuck with it for 5 years). The reason iPhone’s sell so well is because of their dedicated fans. I’ve seen videos of people at Apple launches being asked why they are getting the new device, and they don’t have any other reason other than the fact that it’s an Apple product.

        3.) iPhone definitely doesn’t have the best graphics performance. You can look at 3D benchmarks for this. The Galaxy S4 is among the highest ranking smartphones on the list, and with iPhone’s, you get a set graphical setting (similar to consoles), and on Android, you can typically change the settings on the game to whatever you please (similar to PCs), which typically results in higher quality graphics and textures.

        4. Apple’s market share definitely isn’t going up, it’s been dropping, and other mobile OS (mostly Android) have been rising. Give it a few years, Apple probably won’t have the hold they currently have, because people are getting bored of them and their products. They really never do anything ‘new’.

      • puggsly

        I’ll respond in kind.

        1) I didn’t say it would, just speculated if it did as you speculated that Apple would ship a larger display phone.

        2) Apple agrees, and is now at 4 inches and as I said I could see them inching up to 4.3 without any substantial changes in external phone size. As for your assumption that any substantial portion of iPhone purchasers have no idea why they purchase iPhones, I can tell you I know why I do! I love the ecosystem, quality of hardware, and quality of applications.

        3) I didn’t say the iPhone 5 is still the fastest graphic performance (it is 9 months old). The S4 best’s it in the T-Rex bench offscreen but actual performance is similar. Again, I purchase iPhones because I know the benefits, and for the past 5 years, when the iPhone ships it has the best graphics performance and arguably the best CPU performance. We can meet back here in 3 months to see if I am correct in that prediction.

      • mnm221988

        I have the galaxy note 2 and it fits in my back and forth pockets. And I can’t lie, at first I said the phone was to big until I saw a Netflix movie. Now holding a iPhone or any phone makes me feel like its a toy and I’ll break it like the hulk. I will say that it’s apples stupid simple minded OS that has a ton of lacked features that made me switch. Why must I always he by an outlet to use my iPhone? Apple can make macbook airs hit 12 hours on a single charge but not give my iPhone 1 day of full life? Bull shit

    • I’ve seen the new HTC One being used a lot over here in China while I’ve been on vacation – that is truly one “bad ass” phone!!!

      It has the quality look and feel of Apple, but packed with awesome features that perhaps iOS 7 will bring to the iPhone.

      What I would LOVE LOVE LOVE to see is the HTC One loaded with the new UBUNTU OS – that I believe would be a show stopper! I would then seriously consider leaving Apple!

  • Philipp Steigler

    I don’t understand why 2 flashes would be useful..

    • Rafael Rafael

      Thats why ur not a millionaire. .

    • Pitchy

      Because it’s Apple’s solution to low light photography. Nokia took a different approach… but it was not well received here because of their strange commercial for it. Instead of showcasing how Nokia uses their technology to take better low light photography, they spent about 25 seconds making iPhones users look like zombies which is not really a selling point or the best way to try and convert people over.

  • Guest

    Apple needs to add a microSD slot, but they never will. They think a 16GB/32GB increase in storage is worth $100. What a joke.

    • Rowan09

      You need an SD card because? Just use Flickr or Dropbox for storing files, the cloud is the future not some SD card add on which on Android can’t even save games just media.

      • Guest

        What if I don’t want to use cloud storage? What if I need to look at a file in the cloud and I don’t have coverage or my data is acting up?Then what, I’m just out of luck? I’m not going to fork down $100 dollars just to add 16GB of storage from the 16GB iPhone to the 32GB iPhone.

      • Rowan09

        What happen if you don’t want to buy a SD card then what? Samsung promotes using the cloud and so does Google. My point is HTC is realizing that SD cards are not that important anymore even the New Nexus if I’m not mistaken doesn’t use an SD card.

      • Guest

        Your response is what happens if I don’t want to buy an SD card? Are you kidding me? I don’t care if they promote using the cloud, I don’t have to. I could care less what the companies think is good for me, I’ll use what I want to.

      • Rowan09

        Yes you can use what you want but there’s no value in adding a SD card is all I’m saying no disrespect intended.

      • Guest

        There is value in adding an microSD card slot, because a lot of people still use them.

      • Rowan09

        That’s not value, value equals dollars. Well Google, HTC, Nexus, and Apple disagrees with you. Google is pushing for companies to include more space on the phones instead of just adding a SD card.

      • Pitchy

        You can save apps to the micro SD card. Sometimes it depends on the phone, other times the rom. The new S4 update allows for moving apps back to the SD card.

      • Rowan09

        Really without being rooted? I have the Note 2 as well witn my iPhone 5 and I can only save media to the SD card.

    • Victor

      True

  • Obsidian71

    Please stop the assumption that this phone will be called the 5S. No one but Apple knows what the next phone will be called.

    • Rowan09

      It’s most likely going to be called the 5S since Apple always do internal upgrades the first year after a major upgrade. People would kill apple if they make a phone that looks identical to the other S3 and S4 and give it a new name, Samsung can get away with this type of thing and people say they’re innovating and kill Apple for doing the same.

      • Obsidian71

        Like the end of the OS X cat names I can see the iPhone moving away from the “S” naming scheme. It’s really pointless.

      • Guest

        I doubt they will go away with the S line. It’s Apple’s way of getting one extra year to do a physical redesign.

      • Rowan09

        They won’t move away from it because the media would kill them for coming out with a 6 that’s identical to the 5. Consumers are dumb because the 3GS and 4 where basically the same phones just a new design and front camera. I prefer functions over design anyday and the S just let consumers know don’t kill us it’s just an internal upgrade.

    • Pitchy

      It doesn’t look like enough of a hardware upgrade to warrant a full +1 in the version name. It’s a minor upgrade, not a major one. 3G to 3GS, 4 to 4S, 5 to 5S just seems par for the course.

  • n0ahcruz3

    Yawn.

  • n0ahcruz3

    If only apple would put a larger battery i will be contented. My 4S has a horrible battery life.

  • Gorgonphone

    Oh great more speed!!!! Yay… 🙁

  • batongxue

    This looks real. Leak is happening again.

  • John Chandler

    the only thing i care about now is will it be USB 3.0, its truly pathetic that its still usb 2.0 speeds, imagine a 64gb iphone, how long does it take to fill that up with music and apps, takes forever, thats how long. all this tech and they cant put their thunderbolt connection or usb 3.0 speed on this cellfone? why does that have to be the achilles heels? takes forever to sync and it truly frustrates me that apple simply does not upgrade this feature, the lightning connector was welcomed but seriously its only usb 2 speeds. all laptops and computers offer usb 3 at a bare minimum but a cellfone which is basically a laptop in your palm is still usb 2 speeds? make no sense.

  • Arturo Polanco

    Iphone its getting boring, same same same all year just improve camera and processor………. I’m an user of iPhone since 2007 with the iPhone 2g, actually I have iphone 5…. And u think all upgrade for a new processor and camera? No really…. We need a bigger screen, new features, better iOS,not that iOS 7 made it on paint, -.-” we need something like this: 4.5 or 4.7 screen, 13 mega pixel camera, 2gb ram, 1.9 or 2.0 quadcore processor, if apple doesn’t release something like this ill move to Samsung galaxy s4

  • Tom

    Samsung galaxy s4 international already has octa core apple is going slow on tech upgrades to get more money

  • J™

    Q: The question is, will Apple be able to get away with another S-upgrade?
    A: YES! As much as i hate to say it but they will get away with anything