Rumor: Galaxy S5 to integrate fingerprint scanner into Home button, not as sophisticated as Touch ID

By , Feb 18, 2014

Fingerprint

Apple paid big bucks to acquire AuthenTec, the world’s leading maker of fingerprint sensors. Following the $356 million deal, it took Apple’s teams an additional year or so to apply AuthenTec’s technology to Touch ID. An in-house project, Touch ID has rethought what fingerprint scanning on mobile devices should be like, resulting in a seamless and integrated solution that, in Apple’s parlance, “just works”.

That’s not saying Touch ID isn’t without pitfalls.

Apple cautions that fingerprint scanning doesn’t work well with greasy or wet fingers and there are reports of old people’s prints not being recognized properly as a result of a few decades worth of scarring and general wear and tear.

Despite rumors that Samsung’s upcoming Galaxy S5 would feature iris scanning, KGI Research analysts instead pointed to a fingerprint sensor.

And now a publication called SamMobile says it’s been able to confirm with a Samsung source that the feature will work by swiping one’s finger over the handset’s redesigned Home button. It would let users unlock the device by swiping and remember website passwords, the latter not (yet) being supported by Touch ID…

SamMobile has the scoop, claiming Samsung has implemented the sensor right into the Galaxy S5’s Home button.

“Apple and HTC have already implemented fingerprint sensors into their devices,” reads the story, “but none of their mobile devices use the sensor to its full potential, or like how Samsung is using in its upcoming Samsung Galaxy S5.”

As an added touch, the upcoming Galaxy will seemingly “show real-time image of your fingerprint on the display as you swipe your finger over the sensor,” SamMobile writes.

It then goes on to describe Samsung’s Touch ID:

The sensor itself works in a swipe manner, which means that you would need to swipe the entire pad of your finger, from base to tip, across the home key to register your fingerprint properly.

Also, you would need to keep your finger flat against the Home key and swipe at a moderate speed or else it won’t recognise your fingerprint.

Other tidbits:

  • you’ll be able to use fingerprint scanning throughout the operating system
  • a total of eight prints can be registered
  • each print can be assigned to a different task or app shortcut
  • at least one fingerprint must be used to unlock the device
  • a new Personal Folder and Private Mode will make it easy to hide personal apps, widgets, and content and protect them with your print
  • you’ll be able to verify your Samsung account using your fingerprint
  • and most importantly, Samsung’s fingerprint-scanning implementation will support saving website usernames and passwords

Samsung’s Touch ID is said to be sensitive to moisture as well.

Activator + Touch ID
If you’re jailbroken, dozens of Touch ID tweaks are available on Cydia.

It sounds like Samsung’s tech won’t be as reliable or seamless as Apple’s implementation. Not only does Apple’s solution not require swiping, Touch ID lets you scan your finger via the Home button in any particular orientation, even if the finger only partially touches the sensor.

Let’s not forget that sensors based on swiping are unreliable and prone to malfunction and wear and tear. We don’t know if Samsung is using a third-party sensor or an in-house developed solution.

Touch ID scan fingerprint

SamMobile’s story contradicts a recent report by The Korea Times which said fingerprint scanning on the Galaxy S5 would be available on the bottom left and right sides.

Also, this:

“Scanning fingerprints on the entire screen, which was much talked about recently, will be available in the latter half of this year as there are still technological hurdles to overcome,” as per The Korea Times.

Fortune’s Philip Elmer-DeWitt writes that a cool 670 participants registered 2,810 algorithms in this year’s Fingerprint Verification Contest.

Samsung’s invitation for the upcoming Unpacked 5 event hints the Galaxy S5 could be announced next Monday, February 24, at Mobile World Congress in Barcelona, Spain.

It’s true that Touch ID may feel underutilized: the feature only lets you unlock your device and authorize iTunes purchases. On the other hand, iOS updates could easily add new capabilities such as protect your iCloud Keychain with fingerprint data or let Touch ID remember and automatically enter website usernames and passwords.

And of course, we’re expecting Touch ID mobile payment to be introduced with iOS 8.

In fact, Apple has 1.67 billion reasons to introduce a Touch ID mobile payment system, as rumored: according to Tech Node, The People’s Bank of China in 2013 processed 1.67 billion mobile payment transitions worth $1.6 trillion, a 318 percent annual increase in the world’s largest consumer market.

Why would Apple want to miss out on that opportunity?

Apple’s iTunes billing system processes digital transactions for over half a billion customers with one-click purchasing enabled, creating an instant market for a Touch ID payment system.

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  • Martynas Linkevicius

    Copycats

    • -____-

      Because Apple didn’t take Notification Centre from Android. UH OH WAIT….

      • Sputnik09

        and yo mamma didn’t breast feed you huh??

      • Jorge Angel

        Lol!! Good one..

      • Chindavon

        An S-Sheep did.

      • -____-

        And your mom is a whore that likes getting gangbanged by aids carriers. Since we’re descending into nonsensical irrelevant insults might as well go the whole 9 yards, right?

      • Sputnik09

        My all means! You want me to post the pic of yo mamma blowing a crackhead homeless and also the one with your dad getting stabbed up in the butt by a drag queen?

      • brownie93

        I’m curious… how many underscores are in your name? lol.

      • arsenal6

        He didn’t even insult you… you are just being juvenile.

      • Rowan09

        Notification been in the jailbreak scene for years so who took it from who? It’s not copying as stated above, it’s being smart on Samsungs part to implement a now popular feature on a popular device like the iPhone.

      • ✪ aidan harris ✪

        If you have that ‘wait and see’ attitude then you’re always behind your competition…

      • John Sklikas

        Yeah exactly what I said, the first person to make it was Peter Hajas, who made MobileNotifier (basically banners and the NC). Apple hired him 2 months before iOS 5 and put his code in iOS. So thank Peter for the iOS NC. I was happy to have a jailbreak at this time :)

      • Rowan09

        Thank you

      • Kurt

        Apple copied the page dots from the jailbreak scene.

      • John Sklikas

        Yeah, after the iOS 1 jailbreak that added applications to iOS for the very first time. But how is that relevant to this topic?

      • sjimmiep

        You are correct.
        Search this …”Apple and android source code” and you will find out what was taken from whom.

      • http://173.58.214.169/ That’s what Siri said!!!

        When was the source code for iOS released?

      • sjimmiep

        “I’m going to destroy Android, because it’s a stolen product. I’m willing to go thermonuclear war on this,”

        Steve Jobs.

      • N&LH

        And Android rip off IOS

      • John Sklikas

        How many times have we got to say that! Apple didn’t copy NC from Android. Apple hired Peter Hajas, the creator of MobileNotifier. This was a Cydia tweak that created the Banner push notifications and the NC as we know it. Apple hired him, 2 months before the release of iOS 5 and put his code in iOS. At this time the Android NC was completely irrelevant. Sorry, get your facts straight!

      • http://173.58.214.169/ That’s what Siri said!!!

        I thought the Android nc was done back when 2.2 was released (2010) . But i think it came from SBSettings.

      • John Sklikas

        Yeah, but at the time the Android NC, was nothing more than a swipe down menu. I had the iOS NC, 4 months before iOS 5 and it was almost exactly the same thing, as it was peter’s code that was on iOS. Remember Apple didn’t hire Android devs, they hired peter. And that was truly the iOS NC, as his tweak also added banners and the NC that we all know of. However, all it had in common with the Android counterpart was that it was a dropdown menu. So does Android has sole rights of a drop down menu or something?

      • mav3rick

        Is the drop down menu gesture any different than pinch to zoom…?

      • John Sklikas

        Don’t assume stuff about me if you don’t know. That simple. Pinch to zoom is natural and it’s good it exists anywhere. But people claiming that someone stole a drop down menu? Really? Come on. Everyone takes ideas from other platforms, even Apple, Google and Microsoft (and no I don’t say steal).

      • mav3rick

        When they take it from somewhere else is always irrelevant… Because “…great artists steal.”

      • siddique

        apple didn’t copy notification centre from samsung buddy….before samsung it was already, was a feature of jailbreak community..

    • Kurt

      Pentach came out before iPhone 5s and has more features. Don’t be mad

    • https://twitter.com/MrElectrifyer MrElectrifyer

      Just like herd-master Apple (http://bit ly/13tVo4n).

  • Dani Hayes

    Article for the flame wars.

  • Framboogle

    I assume it will also include a two-tone flash and 64bit CPU too?

    • Martynas Linkevicius

      Most likely as it will also be lower in specs and after that Samsung will make a new phone saying that THIS “next-gen” phone has better specs than the last one. I hope you get my point.

      • s0me

        Replace “Samsung” with “Apple”, then look at the phone models to see who upgraded specs and software features the most. I dont care about Samsung or Apple I just want to point out the reality.

    • ɑղժɾҽա

      Two tone flash is highly unlikely, but 64bit CPU is very likely according to rumors that Samsung has developed a 64bit Exynos.

    • ConduciveMammal

      Two tone flash? What’s that?

    • Jason Baroni

      There must to be a Gold version too

    • ✪ aidan harris ✪

      Nope! Android isn’t as sophisticated as iOS so 64 bit support isn’t possible…

      • Hyr3m

        lmao

      • https://twitter.com/MrElectrifyer MrElectrifyer

        Lol, typical BS claims you pull out of Apple’s behind…

      • ✪ aidan harris ✪

        So you’re implying that Android can be compiled for 64 bit devices? If so thanks for informing me since the last I heard it was not possible or am I mistaken?

      • https://twitter.com/MrElectrifyer MrElectrifyer

        Yes it can be compiled for 64-Bit devices; it’s based off Linux/Java and last time I checked, those have versions compiled for 64-Bit processors. Compiling Android for the same architecture isn’t a problem; Intel plans to start that trend (http://engt co/1jdIDEZ).

    • http://173.58.214.169/ That’s what Siri said!!!

      Who needs 64 bit? iDon’t.

    • Svs

      Two tone flash, now that you mentioned it i wonder why there is no jailbreak tweaks for that?

  • ɑղժɾҽա

    Samsung always does this. They copy an iPhone “S” feature and make it terrible. S-Voice sucks and S-ID already founds counter intuitive. It sounds like it would take more time to unlock the device rather than just tapping the home button and swiping to unlock.

    • Rowan09

      I agree that S-Voice is just terrible especially when Google Voice is front and center so it’s irrelevant to even have S-Voice.

      • ɑղժɾҽա

        Exactly my point! I do feel that Siri is the best virtual assistant on the market right now. Google Now is useful for searching information while Siri is more for socializing and handsfree things.

    • https://twitter.com/MrElectrifyer MrElectrifyer

      Kinda agree, wish S-Voice wasn’t so slowass and robotic…somewhat thankfully, you can replace it with Google Now (better functions as the cost of privacy…I’ll stick to Siri for now). Hope the rumored finger scanner is at least as good as my Laptop finger scanner.

  • Sputnik09

    Monkey see.. Monkey DO

  • Burge

    As long as you can take that battery out when it freezes it’s all good..

    • Kevin Osborne

      True, because Android does freeze a lot. Kind of a must when using one of those bricks. ;)

      • http://173.58.214.169/ That’s what Siri said!!!

        Maybe for Samsung devices… but my Android phone on 2.2 never froze. The only time i needed to pull the battery was for changing out the SIM card.

      • Kevin Osborne

        Well with the iPhone, the SIM card can be swapped without ever doing that, and without powering down at all. Much more convenient IMO, and still no need to pull the battery.

  • Rowan09

    I thought it was said before on another article Samsung was getting rid of the home button? Swipe scanners from my experience are hit and miss but we’ll see what Samsung does.

  • Jason Baroni

    Samsung is miserable.

  • T_Will

    Can’t wait for S-Touch©! ;-)

  • Chindavon

    Skin-O-vation with a rash.

  • Dan

    >.<

  • 4p0c4lyps3

    He says ‘old people.’ ‘Older’ wld have been more apropos.

  • Andres

    Hmmm shocker

  • Christopher

    A Gold Samsung Galaxy S5 with Touch ID…. Never seen that done before

    • leart

      At least they changed the name from 5s to s5 ;)

  • leart

    No surprise here, the same thing is going on since 2007

  • Matt

    This is just pathetic.

  • Sandy Cook

    So much lolworthy in this post. For instance:

    ‘not as sophisticated’ followed by a bunch of things Apple’s version doesn’t do.

    &

    ‘Let’s not forget sensors based on swiping are unreliable and prone to malfunction’ lolwut?

  • Ben Barros

    samsung can’t be original they always half to copy apple.

    • N&LH

      They cannot survive without copying other companies

  • Alberto Espinal

    Damn Monkeys!!

  • Hmmm

    Why is iPhone and Galaxy S the only phones that ever get mentioned? Tyats pretty sad. Are the other really that bad or is it a case of brand whores and fanboys?

  • Chris

    I wonder how long it will take for them to infringe on Apple’s currently pending patient for TouchID and the touch sensor

  • Ryan W

    Samsung is back with copying apple

    Introducing S ID

    (and possibly an iris scanner to force apple to step aside or make “eye d”)

  • http://173.58.214.169/ That’s what Siri said!!!

    if (samsung == apple) {
    sue(samsung);
    return 0;
    }
    lol

  • Telco Biru User

    owh some song you..

  • Gabriel

    And Galaxy S5 will come with new colors, including, wait for it… A GOLDEN VERSION!

  • Svs

    Swiping is annoying

  • Rowan09

    On another note. Samsung is making the next Gear with Tizen instead of Android.

  • Kurt

    Apple copied the page dots on springboard from the jailbreak scene. Didn’t change it at all

    • John Sklikas

      True, after the iOS 1 jailbreak that added applications to iOS for the very first time. But how is that relevant to this topic?

  • Kurt

    Note 3 is not clunky or useless. But you’re trolling so I won’t explain.

  • John Sklikas

    And iDB suddenly became a credible source. It “cribbed it from Android”. That’s just an opinion. At this time, the Android NC was nothing more than a swipe down menu, but nothing like an NC. It was Peter’s tweak that made the NC. How do I know? Because I had almost exactly the same banners and NC on iOS 4 jailbroken, 3 months before iOS 5. There’s a reason Apple hired Peter and not Android developers.
    I’m not surprised by the downvotes by the way. Crediting iDB has became something like a crediting of the Bible or something for some people here.

    • mav3rick

      And still you heavy backing them up on iDB…

      • John Sklikas

        When did I do that? I quoted the guy I replied to, just to set my argument in context! Duh?

  • s0me

    A friend of mine has a Galaxy S4 and it runs as smooth as an Iphone 5S that I saw in stores, and trust me ios has a lot of useless features for me(4s here) than the S4. Why I dont switch or upgrade? Because I dont see any need to do so yet.

  • Gamaliel Corporan

    i think thats really awesome and most usefull (Samsung’s fingerprint-scanning implementation will support saving website usernames and passwords, i love this) :D

  • Raashid

    “Let’s not forget that sensors based on swiping are unreliable and prone to malfunction and wear and tear.”

    Yet another of Christian’s ignoramus bullcrap claims. I have a swipe fingerprint scanner in my 2008 laptop and it’s still working flawlessly today.