Nintendo Mario iPhone 5

Although Nintendo made it clear on multiple occasions that they will not port their games to other platforms, things aren’t looking up for the Japanese company that’s been slashing prices left and right in a hope it will sell more of its gaming devices.

Apple pundit John Gruber chimes in and shares his views about what Nintendo should do to keep relevant in a market it helped define:

Make two great games for iOS (iPhone-only if necessary, but universal iPhone/iPad if it works with the concept). Not ports of existing 3DS or Wii games, but two brand new games designed from the ground up with iOS’s touchscreen, accelerometer, (cameras?), and lack of D-pad/action buttons in mind. (“Mario Kart Touch” would be my suggestion; I’d buy that sight unseen.) Put the same amount of effort into these games that Nintendo does for their Wii and 3DS games. When they’re ready, promote the hell out of them. Steal Steve Jobs’s angle and position them not as in any way giving up on their own platforms but as some much-needed ice water for people in hell. Sell them for $14.99 or maybe even $19.99.

The whole article is definitely worth a read.

  • kayla

    NO.

  • Question

    Yes that would be awesome, they really do need to release a game. Nintendo isn’t doing very well at the point making a 2DS now lol

    • Jordan Dixon

      It’s for 5 year olds.

    • Piyush

      what are you talking Nintendo 3ds is highest selling handheld console its going break record of Nintendo ds.

    • kadeem kadz Dulice

      Pokemon Battles WOOOOOP !! lol ikid

    • Dan

      wow fanboys blindly bash Nintendo now? I thought that behavior was just reserved for android

  • Prasoon Singh

    Heck yeah!

  • iPhone Gruru

    How is the 2DS > ios + controller ? Riddle me that nintendo!?!?!

    • Jordan Dixon

      2DS has much better games.

      • kadeem kadz Dulice

        but ??, can it make a call ?

      • Singed

        I’d say a car is better at driving than a coffee machine, while you say that coffee machine makes coffee, and such, the car is completely useless.

  • Danuel Carr

    Well, thanks to Cydia, I have no shortage of free classic games, so this is sort of a moot point for me (and the rest of the jailbreak community).

    • Ilovecheese

      No need to jailbreak
      I do that in iOS 7 iPhone 5

      • iPhone Gruru

        How?

      • mehrab

        Search on youtube iphone gameboy emulator you dont have to be jailbroken

      • Emilio Andrade

        how?

      • Jordan Dixon

        Zeusmos.

      • Tomas Cabral

        Oh rly?

  • I download roms and emulators on my iphone5 in your face nintendo!

  • Yujin

    The way things are going, they will go bankrupt soon, and do what sega does. The console is dead and it got killed by a casual gamer.

    • Jordan Dixon

      And yet the 3DS is outselling all other console for the past 3 months, and they have $15 billion in the bank. Yeah, nearly bankrupt.

      • kadeem kadz Dulice

        really ?, gonna compare a 3DS to a PS3 now .. smh

      • mehrab

        No ones buying consoles the last few months why? Um cos the ps4 and xbox one are about to be released

      • kadeem kadz Dulice

        P…S…4

  • Adam Bowman

    $14.99?
    $19.99?

    I’m not too sure about this. iOS gamers are a spoiled bunch… granted, they shouldn’t be, but they are used to paying a buck for most games, and even the majority of high quality games top out at around $7.00. There are a few exemptions of higher priced games, but those are few and far between.

    Now, Mario Kart — I think I’d also pay around $20.00 for it (though I’d probably give it a lot of thought and watch and read a bunch of reviews first).

    I’m just wondering if it would sell enough with such a (relatively) high price tag. However maybe the name recognition of Nintendo (and finally seeing Mario on iOS) has the power to do that.

    Anyway, the idea is a great one, and I just with Nintendo wouldn’t be so stubborn about porting over to iOS.

    • Leafs99

      I really doubt they’ll port the games they have already made for the Wii and DS. I think John was right in that they will make games for iOS from the ground up, or perhaps just start with the iOS game controller

      • Adam Bowman

        Yeah, you’re right. I didn’t mean port — I meant to say build them from the ground up for iOS. I’ll probably edit my post.

      • Leafs99

        Nice comment though, most people don’t put too much thought into them.

    • Jordan Dixon

      But if they ported games over to iOS, why would you buy a Nintendo console?

      • Adam Bowman

        Nintendo would end up getting more of my money if they had iOS games. I hardly ever buy consoles… but I buy a heck of a lot of games for my iPhone.

      • Jordan Dixon

        Nintendo would end up getting more money…from you.

      • Piyush

        Nintendo has 10 billion cash right now because of selling hardware and games , ios this year only generated 7 billion only in appstore from which this share is going to go to all the developers and also 30% apple cut so who is making more profit.

      • Rowan09

        How can you compare Nintendo with selling games and console to just the AppStore? Plus IOS games are significantly cheaper so the AppStore sold more and since each item cost less they would generate less money.

      • Piyush

        that’s why , Nintendo cant sell 30$ games on appstore ,ios people are used to 0.99$ games and many ios users are not gamers.

      • Rowan09

        That’s not true people spend more than 99¢ on apps, while I agree they won’t make money selling games for $30, they won’t have the same overhead cost making a mobile game.

      • James

        “many ios users are not gamers.” – is that a fact? What do you mean by that?

      • Piyush

        That they dont play games or play simple games.

      • Leafs99

        Mobile games on iOS and android make more money then all mobile console devices

      • James

        This would be for all of the people that don’t buy nintendo consoles or nintendo games anymore. If they developed some good quality iOS games, they would probably get at least some of my money. If they do not, then they won’t because I’m a playstation guy. Plain and simple.

      • Jordan Dixon

        And at the same time, if Nintendo made quality iOS games, then I, a Nintendo guy, wouldn’t buy Nintendo hardware, so they’d lose out from me.

  • Favio

    I just want a really good, directly connected, controller for my iPhone. I have my favorite Nintendo games on there already.

    • Joseph Thebigragu Plaza

      Shit, just a universal controller for the games they have on the App Store would be nice. None of these “prioritized for certain company’s games” controllers that only work on a handful.

  • ExcaliburEdge

    Sony tried to build a gaming system with Nintendo several years ago, but Nintendo backed out. Sony went on to release the Playstation. Considering the acclaim of the PS4 (when it’s not even released yet), Nintendo should probably come back to the bargaining table.

  • totallymichael

    I seriously cannot wait for Nintendo to pull a Sega. The love people have for Nintendo has always been for their franchises, not necessarily their systems. Sega realized this and is now making bank by releasing their games on every platform possible (PC, consoles, ios, android, etc.) I dream of the day I can play a new Mario Kart on PC (outside of an emulator) and on my iPhone. Hell, Mario on the Shield (or any of the countless controller-based Android systems we’ll see in the near future.) would be perfect.

    • Piyush

      No doubt they look every day at what’s happened to Sega and wonder why everybody’s constantly suggesting that route to them.

      Sega is profitable these days (more often than not, at least), but they’re a shell of their former selves. Most of their biggest titles are licensed from other developers; their own list of franchises has been gutted, their biggest and most important development teams broken up. Most of what they sell these days are carbon-copy first-person shooters and GTA-style games, because that’s what people buy.

      Having their own hardware allows Nintendo to create their own audience and have their own “house style”. That’s always been true for game companies. As soon as a game company gets out of hardware, they tend to lose their identity, and more often than not they actually fold pretty quickly (or just get out of gaming altogether and do something else). Sega’s actually been the most successful at this transition – how many Mattel, Atari or Coleco games do you play on your PS3/Xbox 360?

  • Shane Sepeda

    I would buy a $20 port of Super Mario World in a heartbeat.

  • Anthony Antunez

    Nintendo would make so much money if they put their games on iOS but at the same time, without a proper first party controller, Nintendo games on iOS would suck with touch controls.

    • Jordan Dixon

      They made more money with Animal Crossing in 8 months than Angry Birds, the best selling iOS game, did in 4 years. They’d make pennies compared to what they’re making now.

      • Anthony Antunez

        Yeah but fan base can increase bringing more people towards possibly buying one of their own devices. If really like a Nintendo game on iOS it may give you a reason to pick up a Wii U or a 3DS and experience more of the Nintendo library. That will make Nintendo even more money. Making more money is better than making less money.

    • James

      I dislike the idea of using controllers with the iPhone. I never tried one and I don’t plan on getting one any time soon. I agree that certain, if not most, games would suck without one, but if they created the games “from the ground up” they could alter the way the user interacts with the game, making it more suitable for touch screens.

  • ghulamsameer

    Nintendo released Animal Crossing: New Leaf about 8 months ago (3 months in North America). In that time, Nintendo has generated more revenue from that one game than Angry Birds did in the span of 4 years. Yes, there are price differences, but the point is Nintendo is still making bank and they’ll start making iOS games when hell freezes over.

    • iPhone Gruru

      Then why the desprate release of the 2DS? It looks like they are doing death throws

      • Jordan Dixon

        Because a new Pokemon game is coming out, and, guess what? Children like to play pokemon, so releasing a cheaper, child-friendlier console will encourage more parents to buy the system to play the new pokemon game on.

        The 3DS has been the best selling console for 3 months. However, children under 6 are advised against using 3D, and might break the hinges. 2DS fixes all those issues for children.

      • iPhone Gruru

        Apple has sold more iphones in the last quarter than nintendo has sold handholds ever.

      • Jordan Dixon

        But people don’t buy iPhone to play games, and if they do, they buy it to play $0.99 games. If you buy a 3DS, you buy it specifically to play $50 games.

      • Dan

        Apple’s and oranges man

    • Piyush

      As much i love ios devices and want Nintendo games on it , but this is not going to happen because Nintendo hardware and software work together to make great games and by this way they make more tons of profit too , you are right sir & this should be the way .

  • Jordan Dixon

    What? Their 3DS has been the best selling console for the past 3 months, outselling the Xbox 360, PS3, and all other games console. The Wii U, their home console, hasn’t been doing well. Why would they go and put their portable games, which are making more profit than even Angry Birds, on iOS, just because you wouldn’t mind playing Mario on the bus? Very, very, very few people are willing to spend more than $9.99 on an iOS app. Just buy a 3DS.

  • Jordan Dixon

    Why is everyone saying that Nintendo making a 2DS means that they’re almost bankrupt, yet Apple making an iPhone 5C is a genius idea?

    • iPhone Gruru

      Because this is an apple fan boy site

  • laszlo gaspar

    Its so funny in the 2DS promo video when it says ” play all of your 3DS games in 2D ” it’s like there working backwards.

    • Jordan Dixon

      Children under 6 are advised against using the 3D mode, as it can permenantly damage their eyes. It’s for children, not you.

      • laszlo gaspar

        Yes I understand that but my point is that the 3DS has a button to turn off 3D, so why go and make a whole new device that does the same thing.

      • Jordan Dixon

        Um, because it’s a slider? There’s no way to regulate whether your child turns on 3D when you’re not looking and damages their eyes, so instead make a device where that isn’t possible. It’s also cheaper, and doesn’t have hinges that children can easily break.

      • Gabe

        There’s parental controls that allow the 3D to be off at all times even if the slider is on. To be honest the 2DS is great, I should’ve waited because the 3D really hurts my eyes. I can’t play for more than a minute with it without my eyes watering. It’s really uncomfortable to play with but the 2DS… it has a horrible design but it’s cheap. I basically paid more for something I don’t even use.

  • lilymagana

    This would be the best option for them. Apart from Japan, Nintendo isn’t doing a great job at keeping up with the gaming market.

    Making Games for ios and andriod would bring in money. They could even introduce compatible add in devices like a controller where you insert your phone, an adapter that can support controllers. This would be great.

  • Yeah, and Coca Cola should include a can of Pepsi in its 6-pack…Nintendo makes significantly more money each quarter, from hardware, than top iOS devs (like Rovio) does in a year. Making great non-iAP-infected iOS games would only drive their hardware obsolete…as if it wasn’t already.

    • Piyush

      This time you are damn right as apple makes a good music player ,same as Nintendo makes good consoles.

      • Rowan09

        Nintendo has been losing a lot of money on their consoles for years now, the Wii U is a flop so I think they should make games for the mobile devices. It will definitely help with their bottom line.

      • Piyush

        What!! they may be loosing now but once they release Pokemon and other first party games for 3ds and wii u , they are gonna be profitable and 129$ 2ds every child can buy it , by the way they have 10 billion cash right now and 3ds is selling like great.So they are fine and than who will buy Nintendo consoles if they make for ios that doesn’t even have a proper controller.I know you love Nintendo games but want them on ios devices but this is not going to happen there business is going to crash look at Sega , Amiga , Atari and many more.

      • Rowan09

        I don’t know if you notice but kids are now either using tablets and parents are buying less handheld consoles. The PS4 and xBox One is coming out so to believe everyone is going to buy a Wii U instead of those systems which is now a direct competitor that’s just wishful thinking. I don’t think Nintendo is going bankrupt, but they should start making games for mobile devices.

      • Piyush

        have you look at those example i gave at the end , think again.

      • Dan

        Are you kidding? The Wii U is flopping a bit right now (although I bet as soon as mario kart and zelda come out, things will look up), but the regular wii sold over a 100 millions consoles, that’s more than XBox 360 and PS3… I wouldn’t consider that a failure. Now add the widely sucessful DS lines, Nintendo is nowhere near bankrupt.

      • Rowan09

        I’m very aware of the Wii’s success but if you’ve been paying attention for the past 2 years the Wii was Vernon outsold, no one was really purchasing a Wii anymore and maybe it’s because it was in everyone’s living room already. Here’s the problem with the Wii U, the success of the Wii was significantly on the fact that it was significantly cheaper than its competitors, the Wii U is the same price as the PS4. No one buys a Wii for hardcore gaming and I believe they went in the wrong direction with the Wii U, they’ve abandoned their core fans, little kids.

      • Dan

        well I agree in part, although the Wii U is cheaper. The wii u will not attract hard core gamers, but Nintendo has some pretty strong titles (mario kart, mario, zelda, sonic). For a lot of adults (including me) who grew up with those classics, the console is pretty attractive. If Nintendo had released the console with those games readily available, I am 100% certain that it would of sold well. Right now, the console doesn’t have strong enough content to warrant the purchase imo. Anyway, time will tell.

      • Rowan09

        That’s true those titles will help but they moved away from a kiddie system to now a more mature audience and at that price most people won’t purchase it because its too expensive, especially for what you get with the system.

  • JaeM1llz

    It’s a great idea, but if they go through with it, they’re going to have to price the games in line with current game pricing. I wouldn’t pay $15-$20 but I would pay $3-5.

  • Hyr3m

    By “people in hell” he means iOS users -> I love this guy ^^

  • klouud

    Yep. I am a super Nintendo fanboy – I found this out after purchasing an XBox360 AND NEVER PLAYING IT. I accidentally got a Wii for Christmas a few years back and I have been on an insane gaming streak! You just can’t compete with Nintendo brand games – you just can’t. With that being said, Nintendo has made some insanely stupid choices when it comes to hardware – their insanely dumb incremental update plan is insulting and the Wii U falls so far short of its potential that it seems that Nintendo either thinks that it is untouchable or they just vomited up some hardware junk to fill the void while their “REAL” next gen console finishes development. Either way, its insulting. So they need to either get on the ball or pull a SEGA and only develop software.

  • Joe

    i want to play Pokemon in my iPhone and iPad so bad

  • D.

    I’ve always wanted Nintendo games on my iPhone/iPad. Not necessarily a port, but anything Nintendo. Maybe a limited edition iPhone only game. Like Mario Kart. That would sell like hot cakes on the App Store

  • Hank Scorpio

    No, not this shit again. It will never happen, deal with it. 3DS sales are strong and the company is perfectly fine financially.

  • Michael Erick Reyes

    ok…

    Saying they are slashing prices is a bit misleading.
    Nintendo is making money the 3ds is destroying and out selling VITA.
    The Wii is still selling like CRAZY
    The Wiiu is off to a rough start but it is not as bad as everyone makes it out to be. Its still on track with X360 and PS3 when they were released. The PS3 was actually doing worse at this time in its life cycle. People say the WIIu has no games. Uhh look back at the XBOX 360’s line up when it came out. It was sad, yeah there were games but most of them blew. Maybe we should look up facts.

  • Jeremy

    I can’t imagine that Nintendo would cave and start making full games for iOS. It makes no sense: iOS games are limited in their scope by (a) the lack of a controller, (b) the lack of storage, and (c) the very low prices of competing games. However, it might be interesting for Nintendo to truly go the “ice water in hell” route and make a few mini games (a la those in Mario Party) — these games tend to be fun, are heavily competition-oriented (making them perfect candidates for Game Center integration), and could be a cheap way to get introduced to the Nintendo universe. Once you play a few Nintendo mini games with Mario and friends, it’s a natural step to want to play Mario Party, and suddenly Nintendo gains a new customer for their more profitable console games business.

  • FOFF

    nintendo will not do this until they are on their death bed.,,,lol

  • Pearl

    Nintendo is doing well. Just because Wii U isn’t doing well, doesn’t mean the company isn’t doing well. The 3DS is doing great and they just released the 2DS, which is aimed towards younger kids. The last thing Nintendo will do is port existing games or make new games for the iOS.

    And I prefer Nintendo games over phone games any day. Animal Crossing or Pokemon, anyone?

  • Josh Dyson

    it seems like a good idea, but since apple profits more in the long run, i dont think they would do it.

  • blunite

    That would kill them. It would mean they accept defeat on the 3ds which makes no sense. Maybe a game or two wouldn’t hurt but that would profit tablets who are catching up to handheld gaming market. Just imagine halo coming out for ps4 , how would that benefit the Xbox one for micro? It’s like long run planning.