In case you’ve missed it this afternoon, the jury handed down a verdict in the Apple vs. Samsung trial. Samsung was found guilty of infringing on a number of Apple’s feature and design patents, and has been asked to pay over $1 billion in damages.

Apple, on the other hand, was cleared of all of Samsung’s infringement charges, and won’t be forced to pay any kind of settlement. And now that both companies have had a chance to review the jury’s decisions, they’ve released their statements…

Here’s Apple’s statement, courtesy of The New York Times:

“We are grateful to the jury for their service and for investing the time to listen to our story and we were thrilled to be able to finally tell it. The mountain of evidence presented during the trial showed that Samsung’s copying went far deeper than even we knew. The lawsuits between Apple and Samsung were about much more than patents or money. They were about values. At Apple, we value originality and innovation and pour our lives into making the best products on earth. We make these products to delight our customers, not for our competitors to flagrantly copy. We applaud the court for finding Samsung’s behavior willful and for sending a loud and clear message that stealing isn’t right.”

Samsung, as you can imagine, is much less thrilled with the verdict:

“Today’s verdict should not be viewed as a win for Apple, but as a loss for the American consumer. It will lead to fewer choices, less innovation, and potentially higher prices. It is unfortunate that patent law can be manipulated to give one company a monopoly over rectangles with rounded corners, or technology that is being improved every day by Samsung and other companies. Consumers have the right to choices, and they know what they are buying when they purchase Samsung products. This is not the final word in this case or in battles being waged in courts and tribunals around the world, some of which have already rejected many of Apple’s claims. Samsung will continue to innovate and offer choices for the consumer.”

Samsung’s right, this isn’t the final word in this case. The company will likely file a motion to appeal, and while it’s going to be extremely difficult to overturn a verdict like this, it could keep the case tied up in the court system for months, if not longer.

Nevertheless, this is still a huge victory for Apple. Expect to see it followed up with calls for sales bans on all of Samsung’s infringing products, and expect too see this ruling leveraged in other patent wars Apple is entangled in.

  • And Samsung is spot on. Less phones, less competition, higher prices, and less innovation. Apple does not innovate, they even admit it themselves, they just make things better. I’m very disgusted with Apple right now. Yes, Samsung should have paid some damages for what they copied, as Apple should have paid damages for what they copied from every other tech company out there.

    • karimo

      it dose not mean less phones. it just means less phones that look like each other. samsung can go back to the drawing table and just design something different

      • How different can a phone look from another phone? You either have a candybar, flip, or brick phone. Three shapes: pick one.

      • cruzcontrol1001

        You have a caramello and a snickers

      • That is the real name of the “bar” form factor of a phone.

      • Did you take a look at the trial veredict? It doesn’t mention anything against rectangles and actually, the jury didn’t consider the Samsung tablet too similar to the iPad’s design.
        There’s a list with all the items where the jury agreed on Apple’s claims, check that out and you’ll notice that Samsung could have come with something not copied.

        So yeah, Samsung and anyone can sell rounded rectangles, Apple has nothing against that.
        Your excuse is childish, cheap and dumb.

      • Yet the tablet was listed under the items infringing on the patents. And Apple does have something against people selling round cornered rectangles. They brought up the design every chance they got, considering this was a design infringement case.

        Hmm…Looks like you need to read the verdict again before going all holier than thou.

      • You sir (Richard) have it spot on, and it irritates me that only a select few actually see the truth.

      • Because most people are too blinded by product loyalty. I have no product loyalty to anything. I use what suits my needs. I have an iPad, iPhone, Galaxy Exhibit 4G (which was one of the phones found to infringe, and really, I have no idea why), a Kobo e-reader, and a Toshiba laptop with three operating systems on it; that’s 4 different brands (if you don’t count the OS brands) that all have very different purposes. And the fact that when I post solid facts that still get down-voted just proves that these people are blinded by their loyalty to Apple. It’s sad, really.

        Anyone with a slightly above average knowledge of the justice system can see that this case is going to go on into next year, at least, and that these damages are going to get reduced massively. If anything, both companies will have to pay up by the end of it.

      • Lumia 900 kinda different

    • LloydAngelo Luna

      why are you disgusted with Apple? if you own the company would you not sue the company that’s copying your patents??? Apple has warned Samsung before and they did not listen… now they are facing the consequences…

      • So when Apple released the iPhone 5 and Samsung decides to stop licensing the LTE patent, will Apple have what’s coming to it? Or that fact that now the parts they use from Samsung are going to drive the cost of their devices up?

        I’m disgusted because these patents are, for the most part, on things every single smartphone uses. They are standards essential patents. They didn’t innovate with them. They went after what wasn’t rightfully theirs in the first place.

      • cruzcontrol1001

        That won’t happen due frand patents.

      • Because our patent system is beyond broken and needs fixed.

      • cruzcontrol1001

        You know the funny part about what you said is that the some of the most successful consumer electronic companies are from the U.S. and they have done just fine with the current patent system.

      • And now we’re seeing how that same patent system is driving innovation down.

      • cruzcontrol1001

        If that’s the case we should have had a phone ease of use beautiful ui and all thouch screen including keyboard and runs apps prior 2007.

      • Which is exactly what I’m saying. If the patent system wasn’t so screwed up, our phones would be a thousand times more advanced by now. Hell, we’d have holograms like in Star Wars on our phones by now haha.

      • cruzcontrol1001

        Yeah but what I meant was every one was making somekind of blackberry knockoff until the iPhone came around and created what is now called the smartphone you can’t just copy the hottest thing on the market

      • The Sidekick was different than the Blackberry, and the original Razr definitely shook up the market. Now the iPhone is the “hot phone” but I still see 95% of phones that look nothing like it minus the generic phone shape.

      • Well no. Until this case, almost no one sued because of rectangular shapes and trivial patents, because it could and would have started a uncontrollable fire. Now Apple has started sueing for trivial patents, and in the long run, the patent system will stop innovation, since in the long run you’ll need 5 patent lawyers and 30 patent researchers for every development engineer. Releaseing a product will take 5 years from development until release since you now have to check for 5bio patents.

        I don’t have ANY problem with inovative patents, but i really disgust trivial patents. The slide to unlock patent is one of those trivial patents. My house door has such a slide to unlock protection on the inside. Since 20 years!

        Notebooks, cars, mouses, houses, virtually ANYTHING has been copied with no harm to others. Japanese car companies copied german cars for decades, but no one bought a japanese car because he thought it would be a Mercedes. He bought it because it was way cheaper. He wouldn’t have bought a Mercedes anyway. Same goes for Apple & samsung. No one ever goes to a telco and buys a Android and thinks he got an Iphone. Even my granny got herself a cheap Android after she had my old iphone for some weeks, because she said she would’nt need such an expensive device just for phoning. She doesn’t text, doesn’t surf etc. Just the camera and the phone.

        The lcd screen in my Mercedes B-Class is a rectangular shape with rounded corners. And it has a touch screen. OMG APPLE GONNA SUE ME !

        .Some of the most successful consumer electronic companies use very few american technology. They buy it in Korea, China etc.

      • Which is exactly my point. I have no problem whatsoever with actual innovative patents, none, but when things like the “mailto:” protocol, slide to unlock, rounded square icons, inertial scrolling (Uh, Opera has had this for how long?), calling by clicking on a phone number; I mean, those are just total BS. I also think that the 3G patents, and even Samsung’s patents on LTE should be thrown out and available to everyone.

        The only problem now is that most products actually do take more than 5 years to get put out from initial development to finally being released. After this, it’s going to take 10, minimum, unless the patent system is fixed.

        This is going to start the “uncontrollable” fire. Apple knows this, and with this victory is just plants it further in their head that they can now attack whomever they please.

      • LloydAngelo Luna

        A company that owns a patent regardless can sue whoever are copying their patents and has the right to… if Samsung patents were copied by Apple would you not think they’ll do the same to Apple??? how can you be so naive about this… lol

      • So you haven’t heard how in South Korea and the EU Apple has found to be in violation of several Samsung patents? How starting in October Apple has to put up ads for Samsung products on their UK sites? Yeah, Apple is at fault too.

        And I swear, if this gets down-voted (cause I know it will), it just means that you people can’t stand solid facts.

      • LloydAngelo Luna

        then they should sue Apple… Apple won this case squarely and legally… Solid facts are just obvious… Samsung copied Apple products… im not sure if you are not really seeing the truth…

      • As Samsung proved Apple copied them too, or they would have been fined the full $2.5 billion. They reduced it by a full 1.5 billion because they proved Apple copied them enough too. I don’t think you’re seeing the facts here. Samsung and Apple have copied each other, period. Steve Jobs even said that Apple is “shameless” in copying great ideas, yet now that he’s gone, they’re going after every person who even remotely copies iOS. Apple won nothing fairly and legally. They presented evidence that Samsung wasn’t allowed to, even though it was in the same capacity. Apple had witnesses that Samsung wasn’t allowed to have, even though they were in the same capacity. That’s not fair, it’s biased and illegal.

      • Heck, you make such a good lawyer. Why are you still on this blog? Go pick up a wooden hammer or something and be a judge.

      • I was actually pursuing a career in law until college got too expensive and I couldn’t afford it anymore. It happens when you have to pay for it yourself and you live in the middle of nowhere with no jobs around.

    • Ibrahim Sait

      u mad bro?

      • Mad that this lawsuit was totally biased from the start, yes. It was ridiculously in Apple’s favor from the start (the judge allowing Apple witnesses and evidence that it then denied Samsung to have). It’s BS and the consumer IS going to lose on cause of this. The price of things is going to go up. If every phone had to be so radically different from every other phone, we’d have thousands of operating systems on then, thousands of ways to call, send text messages, check email, etc. It’s total BS that this was awarded this way when South Korea and the EU have found that Apple and Samsung have BOTH copied EACH OTHER yet our flawed system gives whoever holds standards essentials patents favor.

    • razin yuzer

      “Apple does not innovate, they even admit it themselves, they just make things better”
      same could be said to Samsung since they copied Apple..

      • Every company copies every company, period. At least Samsung doesn’t sue everyone who uses their stuff.

      • because it isn’t their stuff! lol

        their own internal emails prove their intention was to copy and steal from the iphone as heavily as possible to make their phones like an iphone. it was their INTENTION. this will force them to innovate and create THEIR OWN tech. this is what will give the consumer a greater choice and more options.

        this isn’t going to make an iphone more expensive. LOL an iphone costs what an iphone costs and has always cost.

        your samsung garbage will cost more because they will actually have to spend money for R&D to create their own phone rather than steal it. that’s the cost of business. sorry you won’t be able to get 10 free samsung phones when you sign a contract anymore and you’ll have to pay for the phone. boo hoo you’ll have to pay for what you want.

      • Seriously? Wow…Apple BOUGHT those patents, they didn’t invent a damn thing! There was no R&D on Apple’s part, none. Apple and Samsung BOTH destroyed emails about this case, ON PURPOSE. They BOTH destroyed evidence, period. And the the “intention” to copy? Really? Have you never heard of companies taking a look at the market, seeing what they’re missing, and them implementing that into their products? Look at iOS 5, that was nothing but implementing what Android, Symbian and BlackBerry OS have had for years now.

        And yes, it IS going to make the iPhone more expensive. Apple still gets parts from Samsung, Samsung was just fined over $1 billion, prices are gonna go up to make up for that loss. It’s how every single company works.

        Believe me, in this case, they BOTH should have paid damages. I’m on neither side with this, as both copied, both used grandiose tactics outside of the courtroom, but these jurors messed this up big time.

  • Apple …we won
    Samsung….my bad

  • “loss for the American consumer”? Really? If you break the law, you are going to pay for it. Sheesh!

  • Whatever, Apple won


  • cruzcontrol1001

    I think you should open your eyes dude it goes beyond the innovation Samsung copied products from Apple it doesn’t matter how you look at it. They should have created something different and they wouldn’t worry about this kind of shit. I know that apple didn’t create everything nor did I say they did but what they are fighting for they did and they have every right after all this America. Samsung can say what they want but what should have said to there customers is sorry for copying another company and we will try to make products that we invented and look like ours.

  • Samsung and innovation really shouldn’t ever be in the same sentence.

  • Philip Cratsz

    we as consumer loose my opinion is let us as consumer be the jury and decide what we want to buy

    • I think you’re wrong. People would buy the product they think it’s better and being better or worst doesn’t matter on this discussion.
      The subject is about one company copying shameslessly another to make money.

      Would the consumers support the product just for the sake of being fair? No, they wouldn’t.
      They would pick the cheapest one or the one they like better

  • YujinNY

    A lost or Koreans….lol

  • Don’t see wat y’all issues are you ain’t getting any money from apples victory who cares

  • “Today’s verdict should not be viewed as a win for Apple, but as a loss for the American consumer. It will lead to fewer choices, less innovation, and potentially higher prices.”

    Man…breaking off from Apple’s design and you can come up with your own aesthetics and features…that’s less innovation? fewer choices? And Apple’s products are higher premium price than other devices, anywhere higher for others?

    Please change and innovate so I can have alternative option to consider next time when i need to change my iPhone…

  • sparky

    Yeah… time to sue the rest of the cell phone companies! Apple’s iPhone have monopoly in the consumer smartphone in the mobile phone industry.

    • Emre SUMENGEN

      Yes, for everyone that’s trying to make money by building an iphone-like phone, they are the monopoly. And, they should be…

      If their competitors don’t want to pay license, they should go and build their own design and concept.

  • Mahjikk

    Who wants to buy my Samsung phone? It’s the same thing as the iPhone…legally 😉

  • Liu Zhenyu

    *sigh* there’s still one Samsung fan on the blog, such a staunch copycat.

    • *sigh* Apple isn’t the greatest company in the world. Seriously , grow the hell up. I like companies that don’t screw the average consumer over. I actually like Apple, but you fanboys are pissing me off because you’re stuck in your stupid ass reality distortion field. Grow up and realize the world doesn’t revolve around one company.

      • grow up and realize that Samsung STOLE, they didn’t innovate. they are now forced to INNOVATE instead of steal. for your stance you should be happy with this lawsuit going in Apple’s favor since it will force the innovation and originality you want. you are the one who is living in a reality distortion field. time to grab your ears and remove head from sphincter.

      • Where have I ever said that they didn’t? I have said, many many times, that Samsung did copy some aspects. As did Apple! Look at the lawsuits that have found Apple in violation of Samsung patents. Both companies have used each other’s ideas multiple times, period. The fact that ONLY Samsung had to pay damages is completely and utterly ridiculous. Seriously, look at the facts before passing out judgment.

      • Peter

        You understand as much about patent law as the toothless hillbillies who decided this case

  • This whole thing gonna affect both consumers (Apple & Samsung)… I really don’t like the ruled verdict! Soon, price hike, less innovation & lots litigation ignoring the consumers needs & wants. I’m an Apple fan but Apple are so arrogant & egoistic in nature. I’m sure they’re still looking for a way to stop Jailbreak community from existing which they almost copied every tweaks they have to upcoming iO6. So, are they not copying now? Rubbish! No hate but Apple are so annoying 🙁

    • Al

      I agree with your whole stance. But your missing the picture, the patent system is the issue. Apple took advantage of the system, especially when Steve admittedly said they patented the heck out of it. Being an Apple fan, you gotta admit how smart they were in taking advantage of the patent system. Any sane person will do the same..Including you or me. When it all comes down to it..blame the patent process.

  • Samsung was right in one thing that it was a loss for consumers wherever they’re from, prices will probably hike and there will be less options for the consumers.
    but it was obvious that Samsung copied apple products and they had to pay for what they did.
    All I can say that it was a huge victory for apple.

    • Emre SUMENGEN

      Apple product prices did not drop because of Samsung, and I doubt they will go up because of their absence.

      And, current competition is not a fair competition. We’ll see how Samsung prices their products, AFTER spending billions in R&D, just as Apple did, instead of taking others’ ideas.

      • Others ideas ? How on earth is a rectangular shape with rounded corner Apples invention? There has been tons of prior arts.

        The only sad thing is that now consumers have less choices, since you can’t just build a regular smartphone now.

      • Emre SUMENGEN

        Oh, right.. The only patent in question here is about a rectangular shape with rounded corners, right?

  • Samsung needs not to worry about the American consumers. Just make sure don’t steal again and focus on making better phones.

    • Gee, I wish the jailbreak community would sue Apple for all of the theft it does with each iOS update. Because let’s face it, Apple steals as much as the next guy… they are just the cool kid on the block right now and everyone loves them.

      • Liu Zhenyu

        It must by patented

  • fuckyou

    You really think this is about “you copied me cry cry”? This is about apple pushing samsung to a corner and forcing them to hand over a patent instead of paying a billion dollars.

    • You’re an idiot. GTFO of here. It has been said in another article that Apple has licensed most of these patents to microsoft to avoid copycat phones. Apple was even ready to license these patents to Samsung, but they said no. Samsung dug a hole for themselves in this retrospect.

      • Emre SUMENGEN

        Absolutely… Because Samsung believes “Fuck no, I won’t pay you. But I’ll steal your ideas and make my own money”

        I say to the hell to that!

      • Well Apple wants 3 bucks from MS for each phone, from Samsung they asked 40-60 Dollars. Seems fair and legit.

      • In the 90s, Apple and Microsoft were FORCED to cross license their patents, because they were both found to be using each other’s ideas so much.

    • Emre SUMENGEN

      By the way, which patents are those that Apple needs from Samsung?

      All Samsung tried to push through were FRAND patents, which by term Samsung is required to provide fair licensing scheme. Apple’s patents in opposition are not standards, not FRAND. They do not need or are not required to license their inventions.

  • I really don’t see why there will be fewer choices just because Samsung withdraw some craps that looked similar to an iPhone. We didn’t have that many choices at the first place.

    • Because no cellphone will ever be in a rectangular shape with rounded corners. No more Icons on your desktop, since apple has the patent for it. The simple damage by this icon patent can be seen on the windows 8 former Metro UI.

      The really bad thing about this is that there has been an IDIOT who gave apple the patent for a square with rounded corners. and other trivial patents. Apple even got a patent lately for switching ads on tv to location based ads. That has some heavy prior arts (at least in germany). Since years we get local ads on nationwide tv networks.

      • Why couldn’t you have been on the jury? Apparently the idiots who were selected lacked any resemblance of common sense.

      • Because i’m from Germany. So i couldn’t be there. And besides USA, most judges with common sense (germany, netherlands, south korea, australia et al) made a win:win decission.

        It is quite nice to see that the american system with 9 regular people as a jury in a high tech case.

        The second problem is that (for both apple and samsung) the judge had many evidences rejected. Wired has a really nice video of prior art for the pinch and zoom, the rubber band and the double click to zoom patent.

        So two things didn’t work well in this case: timing and having the decission made by the jury. Whatever the judge could have said to Apple and Samsung bosses, Apple would never have had an agreement, because the jury decission was in their favour.

        And btw. i own a Iphone. So no droid fanboy here

      • Emre SUMENGEN

        This case IS in the US, not in Germany. It’s consequences will not be binding through the world. Each and every country has it’s own set of rules and own judges to interpret them.

        So, there goes your “prior art, at least in Germany” topic.

        And, what is wrong with the Metro UI?

        Instead of exaggeration, can we talk about the facts? Apple does not have a patent for icons on desktop, so rest assured, you’ll have your icons everywhere…

  • ThatSam

    I can’t see why phone designs are different then
    Cars, glasses, headphones, pencils, laptops.
    They all have a similar design be aide it works.
    (but I guess I’m just not knowledgeable in this area)

    • Emre SUMENGEN

      I heard someone saying that, companies license nearly each part of it, like having a door with a knob on the side and swivel rings on the other side etc.

      So, in the industry, it is pretty common to license.

      The problem we’re facing here, is because our topic, industry of mobiles and computers, is so new that these stuff have not had enough time to solidify…

      People still think it’s ok to copy or mimic a computer’s design, but they will not think a second about licensing a cars’ design (or one of it’s parts)…

  • People who dislike the posts are Samsung supporters

  • Really, these comments are as bad as the lawsuit itself. Seriously, you are all just screwed up. The whole thing is a load of shit. I say this as a person who has never owned an iphone or droid, (owned an ipod though) and this shit is jsut retarded

    • Emre SUMENGEN

      Which shit is just (yes, just) retarded?

      The case?
      The patent system?
      Not copying?
      Mobile phones?
      People arguing each other on something they have no influence on, without a spin of respect?

      Can you elaborate?

  • Kind of glad that I live in Europe. The US patent system is screwed up. Samsung is right. Competition increases innovation (Cold War) and now that one of the biggest android smartphone makers has been ruled over, this will slow down the innovation we all want.

    Don’t get me wrong, I still love Apple products and I’m not even considering switching to an android device any soon, but it’s just a shame that it had to go this way (problem is very much Samsung’s unwill to pay for Apple’s patents). Samsung brought it down onto themselves, but I’m just sad to see it go this way.

    • Emre SUMENGEN


      You love Apple products, so you love that Apple does all the hard work (research and design and all those stuff).

      But, clearly, you believe that their investment needs not to be protected.

      THIS is against innovation.

      Nobody spends billions of dollars, just to have their ideas stolen and used against them in competition.

      • Mr. Watts. and Mr. Edison would like to have a word with you.

        If you prove me that Apple spent “millions of dollars” in R&D for a rectangular shape with rounded corners, then i would ask myself if i were Apple where the money went to.

      • Emre SUMENGEN

        Patents are not valid for indefinite time…

        You should read a bit, before trying to form an opinion on a subject…

        While you’re at it (reading), read about Tesla, and what he invented. Then read why he does not get any credit (or money at his time) for his work…

        Discussing the patent system and patents in general is one thing. But, it is clearly besides the point here, or in the subject court. The thing on topic, is stealing.

        And, again, please try to find something more original (and different) than “rectangle with round corners” point… You’re repeating yourself over and over again.

  • sasan akbari

    I think it’s not good to hold a invention in one company. I say that the technology belongs to Every people.because people decide what to buy. And companies must use that in their products.
    If a invention get used in more than a company it would force them to produce better products, and it is how the technology improves.
    Apple is playing role like a kid.
    Mom, samsung stole my toy :((

    • Emre SUMENGEN

      Technology doesn’t belong to people… It belongs to the one who invents it. Few options here:
      – You use it by paying a license
      – You invent your own
      – You don’t use it
      That’s clear as water.

      • Yes, i would really like you to pay me 1.5 trillion Dollar, because my grandgrand²³ father invented the wheel (and with it the cirlce). So if you EVER use a condom, mouse (mousewheel), Car or whatever has a round shape, please pay me.

        Technology belongs to the inventor, as long as it is a invention.

        The things Apple has patented are definitively NOT inventions. A rectangular shape with round corners ? Icons with square shape and rounded corners? Had that on Windows 3.11+

        The Ruling is okay, because it follows the law. But the patents Apple got granted are ridiculous.

      • I agree on your last bit
        ( the patents Apple got ) but you said it … They got the patents for that shape …

      • Emre SUMENGEN

        Do you have anything else about patents, besides “rectangular shape with round corners”?

        What about rubber band scrolling?
        What about multitouch?

        By the way, DESIGN is one of the most important parts in manufacturing and sales. And, more often than not, the design gets patented first.

        Go ahead and build a car, featuring the grills of a Ferrari… Or, rather, just draw it and publish it saying “This is my invention, it is called Merrari”. And you’ll see how these things work out in the world…

  • MosT definitely made for humans who are blind and can’t tell it’s a rip off of the iPhone. Execellent at least instead of blatantly ripping off apple now Samsung will do something different.

  • im just glad this is over and we can now move on.

  • Anonymous

    So Samsung should pay they are just idea stealers even in interviews for jobs they take ideas of people within the industry and ask questions on how apple products could be missing things, so you think why not let them know and they don’t offer you a job but then you see a tv ad with their innovation (more like your idea in the job interview). I say fine them

  • Great, now your so-loved Apple products will cost even more, because there will be less to choose from. No competition – total market control. Now you give your money to their hands. In a few years – its your life they will be after. Its naive to think otherwise. If innovation is more important to you than freedom, then slaves you are and will always be. Then know it; they bet on your obedience.