We’ve just received a major update on the status of the iOS 5.1 jailbreak. Pod2g just tweeted that he had “a productive weekend,” reportedly finding “2 big vulnerabilities. 1 kernel land and 1 root land.”

The news comes just 5 days after the hacker posted a poll on his personal website, asking jailbreakers if hackers should continue work on an iOS 5.1 jailbreak or hold off until Apple seeds iOS 6…

Users still have 2 days to voice their opinions, but it looks like the outcome has pretty much been decided. Out of 135,961 votes, 84,269 (or 61% of the voters) believe that hackers should continue work on iOS 5.1.

The problem here is that releasing an iOS 5.1 jailbreak, which most folks consider to be a minor upgrade from 5.0.1, will result in the exploits being patched in iOS 6 — which will more than likely show up in a month at WWDC.

And with those holes plugged, there’s no guarantees that hackers will find more in the new software. Of course, who’s to say that Apple won’t find and plug up the exploits in iOS 6 anyways, regardless if a 5.1 jailbreak is released or not.

As Pod2g says, “this is like playing poker.”

While there’s still no word on any kind of ETA, it sounds like the hackers are making good progress. And at this point, it looks like they are going to continue working on the iOS 5.1 jailbreak.

Thoughts?

  • Great I really hope they release it, because 4S on 5.1 non-jailbroken sucks :/

    • your not the only one

    • Believe me, waiting something HOT! (ios 6) better than hurry on shit (ios 5.1)
      What you think?????

      • Do you have an A5 Chip device running iOS 5.1, because if ya do, the you’ll know the kind of shit we’re going through.

      • Imahottguy

        I upgraded to a 4S today, running 5.1 OTB, and it is just fine. “… the kind of shit we’re going through.” Really? If you think that an unjailbroken iOS device is “shit”, then why do you have one? Just a wee bit over dramatic there buddy. Of course I would love to have been able to jailbreak my 4S as soon as I got home, but I find that it works great, and is awesome, even in a stock condition.

      • Anonymous

        if you want to jailbreak your device so bad why don’t you do the research and try? I’m all for having my phone jailbroken and I’m lucky enough to have an iPhone 4. I was on 5.0.1 jailbroken and all tweaked out until a friend of mine sent me an article about being able go from 5.1-5.0.1 with non-A5 devices. I upgraded and i have NOT gone back and I’m not tethered-jailbroken. What is wrong with 5.1 on your 4S?

      • Anonymous

        I will tell you 2 reasons why Ios 5.1 is gay. But first let me explain why I had to restore my 4S to 5.1. I got my 4S a couple weeks after launch in october with 5.0 firmware. I finally had it jailbroken on 5.0.1. I installed a conversion mod making my 4S all red. Sweet %100 working. My 4S survived a dip in the pool during spring break after letting it dry completely for 3-4 days. Lucky me since I will still be on contract for another year 1/2 with At&t. A week ago I installed SAM and I got to the step where its supposed to respring by itself but i kept getting an error, well I resprung manually with sbsettings with SAM set to a tmobile sim. Resprung and was stuck in activation. I had a tweek called disable emergency calls also.. I tryed everything and looked for help online. So with those circumstances I had no other choice but to update to 5.1. When you have been jailbroken for awhile you feel like you lost your phone. While 5.1 is ok like the lockscreen camera, the 2 things I think are stupid are the “4G” replacing the 3G and 2nd apple removing “firebreak” from 5.1 aka panorama. So im stuck with lame 5.1 for awhile but I just got the new ipad 3rd gen with 5.1 so I know the Jb is comin for it.

      • It’ 5.1.1 not 6

    • The new iPad too… 🙁 stupid apple, making it appear on ios 5.1… They are doing it on purpose, and I hate it! I want to use the 1 gb ram now! T.T

      • Anonymous

        You already are using it… The only reason it’s in there is because stock iOS needs it too. XD Especially with games on that screen.

  • mordechai eliyahu

    pod2g also said right after that tweet “Too bad I have to be secret again…”

  • Anonymous

    The exploits will be patched in iOS6 whether he waits or not. No point in waiting.

    • that’s a actually a really good point, but when apple seeds the ios 6 beta they will start exploits from there

      • how can u say that apple will release iOS 6 after 5.1? no one knows that which iOS will be introduced after iOS 5.1, it’s totally unpredictable :p

      • There have also been 5+ updates to every previous version. 5.1 is only the second. Statistically, there’s no chance in hell iOS 6 is the next to be released.

      • Anonymous

        IOS 3 only had a few revisions before iOS 4 was released it is definitely possible that iOS 6 is next.

      • Anonymous

        Hey, Jae, iOS 3 had 5 iterations. 3.0, 3.0.1, 3.1, 3.1.2, and 3.1.3.

      • Imahottguy

        Who cares which revision number the next firmware is? Chances are, the next release will be pretty big, as we get closer to the next iPhone announcement. That said, it is impossible to know whether or not Apple will close the exploits that have been found and are being worked on to provide a jailbreak, if the jailbreak is not released before the next firmware beta seeds.

      • Anonymous

        But Apple is getting better at making iOS (obviously), so they might try to keep the number of releases down. Also, there’s no MASSIVE reason to fix 5.1, except to add new features, but they might as well make them part of 6 as WWDC is just around the corner.

    • Not exactly sure how it works but if he doesn’t release the jailbreak then Apple isn’t going to know where the exploit is unless they specifically look for it. Obviously Apple either doesn’t know about what pod2g found or they don’t care to patch it. The only way they find out is because they check how the jb works.

      • Anonymous

        That is not even remotely true. Last year they announced they had 5 exploits for iOS5 while it was still in beta and by the time iOS5 was released publicly they had been independently patched by Apple.

      • Imahottguy

        Well lets think about this: Apple has enough money to employ as many security analysts as they see necessary. The Dev Team et all deosn’t even compare in terms of the size of their group. Obviously they dedicate a lot of time and effort into discovering these exploits, so the chances that Apple’s people will discover the same exploits as the Dev Team are pretty high. However, that doesn’t guaruntee that the Dev Team will not catch one that Apple doesn’t. It is a game of poker, and I’d say since every iDevice to date has been jailbroken, the Dev Team may have an Ace (or three) up their sleeve.

    • Nah. as long as there is no jailbreak for 5.1 apple will not know these exploits so they wont patch them in ios6

      • Anonymous

        Please explain how they patched the iOS5 exploits that were announced at JailbreakCon last year then.

      • They were able to patch them because Apple received crash reports and were able to patch it, which is why they created CDevReporter.

      • Anonymous

        Apple has always received crash reports, since the iPhone was first introduced. And you have further proven my point. If the Chronic-Dev team is using the SAME exact method of locating these exploits, you can bet your bottom dollar that Apple will be able to find them as well (without looking at a finished jailbreak).

      • Anonymous

        Is it not obvious how the exploits were patched for the iOS 5 betas??? It is because there were public jailbreak tools for all iOS 5 betas, and Apple was able to use them to find the exploits. No public jailbreak…no exploits for Apple to patch…there is a chance they could patch an exploit or 2 by chance, but they would have no idea that those were what pod2g used….because they would have no jailbreak tool to confirm it.

      • Anonymous

        Sorry, but you’re wrong. The only reason the iOS5 betas had jailbreaks was because they used the limera1n exploit for a tethered jailbreak which cannot be patched. The exploits that Apple patched before the public release of iOS5 were for an untethered jailbreak and had absolutely nothing to do with limera1n. Apple was able to find the exploits and patch them independently without any public jailbreak which I have already stated several times.

  • Anonymous

    I believe tha if u find an exploit, release it ASAP. The longer you wait the higher chance that apple patches it. I’m positive by the time iOS 6.0 comes out the exploits will be useless. Plus there are people who have iPad 3’s that are still left in the dark.

    • First apple don’t know where the holes are yet.. They need the jailbreak as well to show them where that are..2nd some of the holes could be patch and some not ..so maybe only half the work is needed for ios 6 .. Pod2g should at least wait for ios 6 beta 1 to see if the holes are still there..

      • Anonymous

        For the amount of work it takes to find these exploits it’s definitely not worth it to take the chance and see what exploits are patched. Plus all 5 exploits found right now are all needed to make 1 untethered jailbreak, if one exploit is fixed it could render all other exploits useless.

      • Then wait for beta 1 at least .. You would be more pissed if it could of worked for ios6 and it got pushed out for a miner upgrade like 5.1 .. But I do understand that people want a jailbreak .. I wouldn’t even jailbreak my 3GS untill Spirt came out.. First untether ..
        And after I got a i4s I wanted a jailbreak more than ever.. I have never gone so long without a jailbreak . So I do know what it means to need a jailbreak…

      • Well you have a point but if you do some research you can find that during the “2011 MyGreatFest” hackers have said that they have found 5 userland exploits on the ios 5 beta, which werent present on the final version of ios 5…

      • Anonymous

        Exaclyt what I’m saying. Apple spends a lot of money and time on ios security.

      • Ture… But at least wait for the first one ..how long did those betas last for

      • Anonymous

        Exactly. There seems to be some misconception that Apple is inept at independently locating these exploits even though they have already shown us in the recent past that they can.

      • Well you have a point but if you do some research you can find that during the “2011 MyGreatFest” hackers have said that they have found 5 userland exploits on the ios 5 beta, which werent present on the final version of ios 5…

      • Anonymous

        They don’t “need” a jailbreak in order to find an patch exploits. Apple indepenedently patched SEVERAL exploits that were discovered in the iOS5 beta before a jailbreak was ever released. If one single guy who does this for fun on the weekends can find the exploits, then you can be sure that a TEAM of people, whose job it is to find them, can also.

      • But they don’t find them all….or there would be no jailbreak at all…as you said they don’t need a jailbreak to find the hole but it help them a lot

      • Anonymous

        No, we have a jailbreak because after Apple patched the ones they announced, they found more. Just like they will for iOS6.

      • Did you even read what I put? They didn’t find them all .. Or we would not have a jailbreak…

      • Anonymous

        I read what you wrote, and I’m telling you that the reason we have a jailbreak is because they found MORE exploits after Apple patched a few of the ones they had. Jailbreaks rely on more than one exploit to work. Why do you think it took them so long to release an iOS5 jailbreak?

    • “I believe tha if u find an exploit, release it ASAP. The longer you wait the higher chance that apple patches it.”

      What kind of logic is that? It’s actually the other way around. The sooner you release the jailbreak, the higher the chance that apple patches it. It’s practically a 100% chance that apple patches it if you release it now.

      But if you wait, at least there’s a chance that Apple overlooks these exploits.

  • Anonymous

    It may be a “minor update” as you say but many people simply don’t have the option of staying on 5.0.1, personally my device came with 5.0.1 installed and I needed an update to clean my phone up therefore leaving me without a jailbreak as the blobs had already stopped being signed when I purchased my iPhone so i’m glad they’re still working on it. Apple are by no means perfect anyway when it comes to building an OS so i’m confident that exploits will continue to be found for a few more versios of iOS yet.

    • Anonymous

      Not only that but iPhone4S has MAJOR battery problems on 5.0.1. I am untethered jailbroken right now but I would LOVE to be able to update to 5.1 to fix my battery problems, although I won’t simply because there isn’t a jailbreak available yet.

      So to those of us with an IPhone4S, this is no “minor update.”

      • Anonymous

        from iohonebloger ?

      • Anonymous

        iphoneblogr

      • My battery is fine on my i4s on 5.0.1.. When you upgraded did you restore or set up as new? You need to set up as new ..

      • My battery is fine on my i4s on 5.0.1.. When you upgraded did you restore or set up as new? You need to set up as new ..

      • Anonymous

        The battery issues on 5.0/5.0.1 are well-known. In fact, in Apple’s release notes of 5.1, they specifically adresses the fact that 5.1 fixes issues with 4S battery drain. Just because you aren’t experiencing it, doesn’t mean it does not exist.

      • So you didnt set up as new… By the way I did have a battery problem but I restored my device as new .. If you go to a apple store they even ask you have you tried that !

      • Anonymous

        Actually I did set the device up as new, seeing as how the device was NEW when I bought it…. The battery drain issues have to do with the firmware itself, it has absolutely nothing to do with whether you set the phone up as new or not. They only ask you that at Apple because they ask you that no matter what your problem is. It’s basic troubleshooting to start with the easiest things first….

      • Well mine was ok after I did it .. That’s all i’am saying..

      • Anonymous

        And like I already said, just because you aren’t experiencing it, doesn’t mean it does not exist.

      • And at what point in are little convention have I said it has not existed ? All I’ve said is set up as new .. That got rid of mine problem with battery drain..

        Setting the phone up as new when you got it is not the same as a restore and set up as new .. I’ve just done this to are works i4s , 3 out of the 9 that we got had a battery drain . When I said to try this my boss he didn’t believe me .. We did it any way and 2 of the 3 got fixed . I don’t know why the third didn’t but apple changed it for a new one ..

        If you have a battery problem and you upgrade the firmware and then put back on, your backup from from the first firmware , you are installing the problem back on to it ..
        Never mind if you got it new the problem was already on the device when you got it ..

      • Anonymous

        I’m not sure what you’re not understanding here… the problem exists in the firmware, that is why it is addressed in the iOS 5.1 changelog… it has zero to do with restoring backups or setting the device up as new.

      • Then why is it jnot every devices then ?

        Here’s a thought .. When apple puts the firmware on the device hiw many at a time do you think they are doing ? 100 , 200 , 500 , 1000..more.. ? I don’t know , but if at some point there was a error when the firmware was going on how many device got affected .. Doing a restore and set up as new wipes the firmware on the device and put a new firmware on it , weather that’s the current firmware of a updated firmware.. The idaer is not to put back on it what you took off .. ..

  • the main thing is about to restore 5.1 after apple stop signing it -_-

    • I want ask you only one question = What’s the goal of Hackers ?

  • For the love of god, just call GeoHot..

    • seriously..amen to that…(amin) lol. geohot treats jailbreaking like making cereal. truly gifted

    • Do you think that calling geohot would make it better for us. Cool, he finds more exploits, uses them up, iOS6 comes up, people like you start complaining for a jailbreak, but instead should get slapped the idiot out of yourself. You realize vulnerabilities are not endless.

      • Says the one whose iDevice is jailbroken.. 🙂

      • Unless you bought it with 5.1, then it makes sense, but if you updated it, then it doesn’t.

  • im having a glitch on my iphone on 5.0.1 when i go to settings app then i launch siri i say anything then when i click on the thing i just said the keyboard shows up so i can change but if i pressed the home button the settings app shows up with the keyboard and then crashes to safe mode does this help in jailbreaking and does it still work in 5.1

    • What are you saying? Write so we can understand and maybe help…

    • Anonymous

      try using periods and commas.

  • i think we should wait until ios 6 beta is released, if the vulnerabilities have been patched, then release the jailbreak, if not, wait for the mayor update (ios 6). Its just a month, hold it!

  • Imahottguy

    This is great news! Hold them close guys, really really close! 😀

  • A lot of people are arguing that since the hackers have announced that they have expliots that Apple knows where they are and how to patch them. Really, that argument doesnt work, thats like me saying “I have my keys in my house”, then you instantly finding them. Personaly, I think they should wait until iOS6, but its not my decision. The point is, no one can tell when Apple will patch the exploits

  • David Christian Elisa Dengah

    a kernel exploit? ow yeaaah. i hope it’s for A5 devices :p

  • can’t wait till a new iPad jailbreak!!!!

  • Anonymous

    Pod2g should use one of the exploits for the 5.1 Jailbreak and save the other for 6.0 so Apple can’t figure out all that needs to be patched up.

  • Random quote: It’s all about the journey, not the outcome….

  • Random quote: It’s all about the journey, not the outcome….

  • Not knowing if IOS6 will or will not have the same vulnerabilities, whether or not Apple will actually fix the exploits, etc. really does make it, as pod2G stated, ‘…like playing poker.’ I have no qualms with this next jailbreak being released or not released; the current jailbreak is reliable and most of the new functions have been recreated or cleverly been made available to the JB community.

    However, until the ability to downgrade in case of an accident becomes available, given the uncertainty of any future jailbreak, makes me desire one for 5.1. But, there is no guarantee anyway…

    If there is reason to believe they exploits won’t be fixed in IOS6, then just wait. If uncertainty, then follow what chpwn said via Twitter: that waiting has never before worked.

    The entire process reminds me of Sisyphus eternally damned to roll that boulder up a hill, get a quick respite, and then start the process over from the beginning; it’s circles and circles (jailbreak, hope the exploits remain, pause, find they are eventually fixed by Apple, then overcome by the JB hackers, and so on an so on).

  • Not knowing if IOS6 will or will not have the same vulnerabilities, whether or not Apple will actually fix the exploits, etc. really does make it, as pod2G stated, ‘…like playing poker.’ I have no qualms with this next jailbreak being released or not released; the current jailbreak is reliable and most of the new functions have been recreated or cleverly been made available to the JB community.

    However, until the ability to downgrade in case of an accident becomes available, given the uncertainty of any future jailbreak, makes me desire one for 5.1. But, there is no guarantee anyway…

    If there is reason to believe they exploits won’t be fixed in IOS6, then just wait. If uncertainty, then follow what chpwn said via Twitter: that waiting has never before worked.

    The entire process reminds me of Sisyphus eternally damned to roll that boulder up a hill, get a quick respite, and then start the process over from the beginning; it’s circles and circles (jailbreak, hope the exploits remain, pause, find they are eventually fixed by Apple, then overcome by the JB hackers, and so on an so on).

  • I say just release it now. iOS 6 isn’t just going to come out in a month. What about all the beta testing? I think iOS 6 will be previewed at WWDC and betas will be rolled out until iOS 6 is released alongside the new iPhone in fall. Holding off the jailbreak will just not work as it never has. All the exploits found for 5.1 will likely be patched before iOS 6 beta 3 or GM. It’s happened before and could happen again.

  • Yes, release for 5.1. My shiny new ipad 3 is no fun without a jailbreak.

  • crisan_florin26

    WHY DON’T YOU RELEASE THE JAILBREAK AND ASK- 10usd FOR IT ,AND LEAVE THOES IDIOT QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW MANY PEOPLES WANT IT ! IF YOU ARE THAT GOOD AS YOU SAY, YOU WILL JAILBREAK EVEN THE 8.5 IOS SISTEM IF IT WILL EVER BE LAUNCHED ! COME ON PEOPLE LET’S BE SERIOUS ABOUT IT ! IF I WILL EVER HAVE SOMETHING GREAT AS A 4S 5.1 JAILBREAK I WILL SELL IT A.S.A.P. ! HOW MANY OF US WILL KEEP IT FOR ITSELF OR GIVE IT FOR FREE ? THE FREE THING IS DUST IN OUR EYES ! THE BIG MONEY COMES FROM THE FIRST RELEASES FOR 9.99-JAILBREAKS AND ADVERTISING POP UPS THAT SHOW UP EVERY TIME YOU OPEN A NET PAGE !! I SAY ONCE AGAIN IF YOU WANT TO DO IT, DO IT DON’T KEEP ALL PEOPLES WHO NEED IT TO WAIT FOR …. NOTHING !! JUST ASK 10 USD AND YOU;LL GET IT !!!

  • crisan_florin26

    AND I FORGOT TO SAY BEST THING FOR IPHONE .. IS JAILBREAK FOR 99.99% OF US ! I HAD IT ON 4S IOS 5.0.1 AND I …. UPGRADED IT TO 5.1 .. WHAT TO SAY … BEST IDEEA I DO REALLY MISS THE JAILBREAK, BUT MY BATTERY HAS A MUCH LONGER LIFE !! SO… IF JAILBREAK COMES UP IS A GOOD THING BUT ARE A LOT OF GOOD-FREE APPS ON APP STORE ASS WELL !SO ….. IF APP STORE IS DEAD IPHONE IS DEAD ALSO !!

    • What you just said made absolutely no sense. And what’s with the all caps? Don’t you know it makes you look like a complete douche? You must be new to the internet. -_-

      “WHY DON’T YOU RELEASE THE JAILBREAK AND ASK- 10usd FOR IT ,AND LEAVE THOES IDIOT QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW MANY PEOPLES WANT IT”

      Do you even understand the purpose of waiting? It has nothing to do with money. Why are you even bringing money up?

      “IF YOU ARE THAT GOOD AS YOU SAY, YOU WILL JAILBREAK EVEN THE 8.5 IOS”

      Who said such a thing? You just pulled that out of your ass.

      “AND I FORGOT TO SAY BEST THING FOR IPHONE .. IS JAILBREAK FOR 99.99% OF US ! I HAD IT ON 4S IOS 5.0.1 AND I …. UPGRADED IT TO 5.1 .. WHAT TO SAY … BEST IDEEA I DO REALLY MISS THE JAILBREAK, BUT MY BATTERY HAS A MUCH LONGER LIFE !! ”

      So you’re saying it was the best idea to upgrade to 5.1 and lose your jailbreak? That just sounds like sour grapes to me.

      “SO… IF JAILBREAK COMES UP IS A GOOD THING BUT ARE A LOT OF GOOD-FREE APPS ON APP STORE ASS WELL !SO ….. IF APP STORE IS DEAD IPHONE IS DEAD ALSO !!”

      I guess you haven’t heard of purchasing apps legally.

  • they already finished unthered jailbreak for iphone 4 5.1 (tweeter 1 hour ago)

  • hi when can i my ipad 2 and iphone 4s 5.1 untether jailbreak????

  • yes…they should keep going jailbreaking IOS 5.1..pleaseeeeeeeeee….

  • yes..keep on going jailbreaking e ios 5.1!!!! 🙂

  • people need 5.1 jailbreak, my new ipad is incomplete without it being jailbroken 🙁 been waitng for months for 5.1 jailbreak.

  • Anonymous

    Hey Firerat, your rite. Hes jus a Nazzy. Wee’d be a ho lot bitter off with less gammer and more ho’s.

  • 1234

    We should of done iOS 6