NFC-iPhone

According to a new report, the incoming iPhone 6 is going to feature support for NFC technology (or near field communications). Citing sources ‘close to the matter,’ New York news outlet Brightwire says Apple is planning to utilize the wireless tech in a future mobile payment system.

In fact, Brightwire claims that Tim Cook and company have already inked a deal with China UnionPay service. And under that deal, users will be able to make mobile payments on over 3 million China UnionPay ‘QuickPass’ POS machines in the country using Passbook on their iPhones…

Here’s more from Brightwire’s Frank Hill:

Apple is likely to incorporate a Near Field Communication(NFC) payment function in the next generation iPhone and has reached an agreement with China UnionPay on a mobile payment service, according to a source close to the matter.

Under the deal with China UnionPay, users would be able to download the bank card organization’s app to Passbook in their iPhones and make mobile payments on over 3 million China UnionPay’s “QuickPass” POS machines in China, the source said.

Hill goes on to say that both companies are also working on another mobile solution together—one that could eventually be used for purchases in Apple’s retail stores. China UnionPay has quite the reach in the country, as its interbank network links ATMs across most of the major Chinese banks.

Apple has in the past avoided using NFC technology in its devices, with SVP Phil Schiller saying back in 2012 that ‘it’s not clear that NFC is the solution to any current problem.’ It does, however, hold a number of patents on near field communication, including one involving retail transactions.

iphone_6_hajek3_5iPhone 6 concept by Martin Hajek

NFC and mobile payments haven’t been talked about very much on the iPhone 6 rumor mill, but it’s nothing new. Apple has, for a long time, been very interested  in the space, with Tim Cook even admitting earlier this year that mobile payments was ‘one of the thoughts’ behind its Touch ID feature.

The iPhone 6 is expected to launch as early as August, and feature new hardware, a larger display and a number of other improvements.

  • Rickm_jr

    Hasn’t this been in all the next gen iPhone rumors as of recent years?

    • Melvco

      oh for sure. In fact, it was rumored that late-stage prototypes of the iPhone 5 actually had NFC chips, but Apple decided to pull them at the last minute.

  • Daniela Margarete

    only if they could make siri support more states..

    • John

      Fifty states in America isn’t enough?

    • Mark

      What do you mean by that? Countries? It works in all 50 states in the Union.

      • Daniela Margarete

        yeah countries sorry

  • Pato_

    Yeeeeeesss

    • Daniela Margarete

      ewwww

    • romeodesigns

      Haha. This picture is genius!

  • edithouse

    oh wow.. larger screen, touch id, nfc… looks like apple is ready to step out of 2011…who’d have thunk!!

    • Guest

      sounds like android devices. about time apple.

    • Butch Danes

      I’m not hating on Apple, but increasing the screen size and adding NFC isn’t really stepping out of 2011. The only major change will be NFC if they implement that. The other stuff is already available on current iPhones so they need more than NFC to “step out of 2011.”

  • Guest

    copying Android, what will the fanboys say to cover for apple? Hmm

    • ghetto McKee

      That statement is wrong on so many levels. I mean i love android but what you said makes no sense.

      • John

        Don’t bite, there’s a reason this idiot decided to stay a “guest” .. Trolls got to troll.

      • Agru

        Actually he’s got a point. Fanboys used to say that iBeacon was going to replace NFC (just because Apple did it). What are they gonna say now?

      • John

        What point is that though?
        Android have this inept ability to add ANYTHING to a phone in the hope that something works, something is successful and takes off. 99.9% of the time it doesn’t.

        Apple isn’t copying Android JUST BECAUSE Android had NFC first, though, if Apple has added NFC because of this deal with China..I, for one, would be disappointed.

      • Agru

        I’m referring to the last part (about fanboys covering Apple) of the comment, I don’t believe Apple is copying anyone either.

      • If Apple is not copying. What are they doing? Innovating? Following?

      • Agru

        Exactly, following. Just like S5’s touch id is just the obvious consequence of 5s’s one.

      • I agree. I like copying/following. More and better features for us.

      • Rowan09

        Now I agree. Companies follow each other with similar additions, but copying is more like trying to be like another copy.

      • Shadowelite123

        I think copying would be more like how samsung has a gold option for the S5 and in my opinion its a failed attempt because it really doesn’t look that good on the S5.

      • Rowan09

        Adding a feature to serve a purpose in China were NFC is being used more. How can you copy an open source tech? Would you say all these phones are copying Bluetooth from the first phone that used Bluetooth?

      • Doesnt sound inept if it can run/do anything like you say. My iphone is inept as it cant do much. Thankfully we have good apps. Maybe one day multitasking. And if we are really fortunate an s-pen.I mean an iPen

      • Rowan09

        We need a stylus for what reason? I have a Note 2 along with my IPhone and I never use the Pen. NFC isn’t a solution I care much about since you can do the same using Bluetooth. NFC isn’t popular and Apple can make it popular. I had my bank card with NFC included and they stopped using it for security reasons. Casio IT-800 which is a PDA had NFC so it’s not an Android thing since Blackberry does it as well

      • Kurt

        You’re just one person who doesn’t use the s-pen. I use it all the time. In fact, 30 min ago I was using it. NFC, split screen, pedometer (5S copied the S5), healthbook app copied from S-Health of S5 and Note 3, it’s looking more and more a reality we will see a phablet from Apple. Maybe they will call it “iPhone Note”. I love copying! Gonna be a great iphone

      • Rowan09

        LG has split screen on there phones and multi-windows wasn’t done first by Android. S-Health is an app but it’s not the first health app so how is Apple copying Samsung? If anything Apple is just including features that’s been on the App Store for years. Android didn’t make NFC, Blackberry uses it and so did Casio on a PDA in 09. How can the 5s copy from the S5 when it was released last year? It’s not copying on anyone’s part. The whole “phablet” thing again wasn’t done by Samsung first, Dell make the Streak 5.0 and 7.0 years before the Note series. HTC then followed with the Evo and HD2. You’re giving Samaung way too much credit for things they didn’t invent or make.

      • 1d3rboy

        I definitely agree. Sure, innovation is great and I am sure companies will come up with new ideas for the future. But everyone copies everyone. As long as no one is saying “WE DID FIRST” it really doesn’t matter. What matters, and where Apple wins a lot, is WHO DOES IT BETTER!

      • Kurt

        Samsung made these popular. Thats why I’m giving them credit.

        Who gets credit for finger print scanners? Motorola? Pentach? no…Apple. Same here. I’m just fair about it. You just give Apple the credit and when they copy you don’t admit it. Why? Why would you do that?

      • Rowan09

        Apple gets credit for making the fingerprint scanner actually work properly. No one cares if they released one like Motorola did and it didn’t work right.

      • Shadowelite123

        Fanboy much?

      • Kurt

        Joke?

      • Guest

        not a joke, you are acting like a fanboy

      • Shadowelite123

        also Apple perfect the mobile fingerprint scanner, thats why its popular. if Apple’s touch id feature was not perfected like the S5’s then touch id would not have been a major loin to get the 5S

      • ” if Apple’s touch id feature was not perfected like the S5’s then touch id would not have been a major loin to get the 5S”

        It’s a major what to get the 5s? How about rephrasing it that it’s a major reason for you to get the 5s. There’s still nothing major enough for me to consider upgrading from my 4s to another iPhone.

      • Shadowelite123

        sorry its my phone i hate these android keyboards. they don’t recognize my typing correctly like when i had my iPhone. the top point to get the iPhone 5S is touch id. Then there is the 64 bit processor, and the M7 chip. You can’t exactly look at the present. You have to look at the future when buying a product. I strongly believe that these top reasons to buy the 5S will result in a better and longer lasting iPhone. Look at possibilities, not current limitations.

      • I understand you point. Personally, the beauty of iOS prior to iOS 7 played 1 of the 3 major roles for me to consider a phone (functionality, beauty, support). That’s the reason I never considered a Windows Phone; it’s lazy-fugly flat. Thus far, only Android offers the freedom to make my device look the way I want (non-pale-flat system wide). Until Apple finally comes to their senses and makes themes readily available in iOS, OR some jailbreak theme is readily available to eliminate the flat-looks system wide (and bring back the iOS 6 look), won’t consider another iPhone.

        The 64-bit is a boost in speed and efficiency per clock frequency, thus you can have higher performance with lower frequency CPU, thus lower power consumption. However, those benefits are alternatively obtained with a faster processor and bigger battery (which outlast the iPhone 5s) in other products, so, the 64-Bit stuff is just a marketing buzz word at this moment.

        Regarding the M7 chip, competitors also have that. Regarding the touch ID, competitors also have that and they too can be used with one hand (yes that includes the S5, just scan your thumb at an angle).

      • iBanks

        I have no doubt in my mind that S-Health was created just off the rumors from long before S-Health that Apple was making Healthbook. And for Samsung to advertise their S5 as an “heart rate sensor” was the funniest thing yet considering all they did was put the LED next to the camera lens just as it is on my 5s. I’ve been using heart rate apps on my device long before the S5 release but yet they claim it to be a selling feature. Lol.

      • Kurt

        S-health has been out since S4. Apple copied. Does that hurt your feelings? If so, ask yourself why? What do you have to do with it? Why not want more features on more phones. Let Apple copy, is it a bad thing? “Think different”

      • iBanks

        Again, rumors of Healthbook was pre-S Health. Early 2013 when it became known that Apple was meeting with the FDA. So as I said, based off rumors, Samsung implemented it into their devices, poorly. Just as they did with the Galaxy Gear watches. Samsung follows suit of rumors that Apple may be doing this or that, not because they wanted to innovate a thing.

      • How do you know there were no S-Health rumors even earlier? You weren’t expecting to find them here on iDB were you? In the end, rumors are not the same as realized end products; rumors are uncertain and doubtful.

      • Shadowelite123

        iDownloadblog is a general tech news website, its not a Apple specific site.

      • Kurt

        SHealth came out in early 2013. or do you think they somehow put in a thermometer, pedometer, etc into the phone and made a health app in a few weeks? Clearly that’s ridiculous. Apple copied.

      • Shadowelite123

        get over yourself. S health came out when samsung started to talk about health in the S5. i have used the S4 and i never once seen S health before the S5

      • About time you came out of your cave (http://bit ly/1opM28o).

      • Kurt

        no

      • Shadowelite123

        i actually agree with you on that. Apple should include more features and i personally think that if Apple implements these features on iOS, they will perfect it and make android be in need of improvement. I just wish this whole copying thing would just end.

      • Shadowelite123

        How did the 5S copy the S5 if the 5S was released earlier than the S5. watch what you say because you are starting to look like a fanboy. Healthbook was rumored for iOS 8 long before the S5 and note 3 even had it. One, iOS 8 isn’t even out yet so your points are horribly invalid

      • It’s called a typo, the S4 had the pedometer sensor (http://bit ly/1opM28o) and it was released 6 months before the 5s.

        “Healthbook was rumored for iOS 8 long before the S5 and note 3 even had it.”

        Again, it’s about time you came out of your cave. The S-Health app has been around since the S3. The S4 made it more useful with more sensors and now it’s even more useful in the S5.

      • Shadowelite123

        jeez calm down with the typo thing. the whole it was a typo was never mentioned when i posted my comment. I was not aware of the S4 having a pedometer sensor as i really don’t follow much about samsung products as they are not of my interest. i told see the popularity of phones with features that are not perfected or constantly being improved. As i have seen, samsung recently started to do that with the S5. i have only heard about it having an update to improve its fingerprint sensor. Again i will tell you that i not once seen the S health app on the S3 or the S4 and if it was there, it must have been hidden because i have not seen it. i may have missed it and maybe it just wasn’t there. we are human so we miss things. i don’t spend all day on the internet as you might so don’t say i live in a cave. you should be active and acknowledge that not everyone has the luxuries that you might have. I don’t watch TV nor do i have TV or internet at home.

      • Kurt

        ahh…Galaxy S4

      • Shadowelite123

        yea this other guy told me.

      • Shadowelite123

        don’t forget Airdrop. It can do pretty much the same thing NFC can. I’m not sure about speed but it should be faster than NFC.

      • Kurt

        Copy of Sbeam

      • Shadowelite123

        Is S beam bluetooth based? or NFC based?

      • Shadowelite123

        the iPen will be for like the 5.5 inch iPhone 6. if not then an Apple branded stylus based on Apples patents on stylus technology.

      • DogeCoin

        Android adds everything except GNU. *le sigh*

      • “99.9% of the time it doesn’t”

        Sounds like you just pulled that out of your behind…prove me wrong.

        “Apple isn’t copying Android JUST BECAUSE Android had NFC first, though”

        Sure they’re not, they’re implementing it ’cause they finally realized the use cases (http://bit ly/SYAwEi) they’re missing out on. The same reason they’re implementing split-screen multitasking in iOS 8. The same reason very other competitor did it; they realize the potential use cases.

      • Rowan09

        I don’t think they may be adding it beasts of missing out on anything. If this China deal wasn’t in place I don’t believe they would add it. NFC tech wants Apple to add it, so it can become more widely used, especially in the US.

      • If it’s only because of China, they will restrict it to the iPhones sold in China. If they don’t, that’s just baseless excuse to avoid admitting they follow others too.

        Regarding NFC wanting Apple to use their tech, who wouldn’t want their marketted product to be used? Doesn’t mean they’re forcing Apple to do it; Apple is the one that chooses to implement it when they want.

      • Shadowelite123

        it seems illogical to make a separate iPhone model for china. Apple will most likely use the same model system it already uses, no exclusive country models. There is nothing wrong with following. and adding NFC is entering a new market, thus the China deal

      • There’s nothing wrong in following, it results in more competition and boy do I love the outcomes of competition. it’s just how some Apple fans hypocritically pretend like Apple is all original and others copy them.

        “and adding NFC is entering a new market”

        Though it’s a new and much bigger market to Apple, the same tech they’re using in China for payments has been in use here in Canada for years, yet they never added the tech up until the iPhone 6 for whatever reason…guess the potential profits weren’t big enough.

      • Shadowelite123

        yes you have to look at the future outcome not risk it. NFC is a new market and the fact that China uses NFC for payments makes it a reason to look into it.

      • Shadowelite123

        One, we don’t know what iOS 8 will have and all we have about it is unconfirmed rumors. Two, The guy actual has a point. As i explained in other comments, i have used the S3 to the S5 and some other android phones, and i have always had a problem. The same has happened with other people and although they don’t want to admit it, they know that there is s problem needing to be fixed but pride keeps them silent. I have experienced and i have observed and in every case i have seen, people, including myself, have had to reboot their android phone constantly and had to remove the battery repeatedly to fix the problem they have. Whether the problem is that the phone freezes, the app crashes constantly or won’t open, the screen is unresponsive, the features don’t work properly, and probably others, i have seen people use these solutions and although they work for a while, they are never permanent solutions and are inconvenient to the user experience. When you use your mobile device, you want to be able to use it without a problem, without interruptions, and without the need to be taking out the battery or having to reboot over and over. Thats a truth that people experience with android but won’t admit. iOS has its flaws too but id much rather have its nearly perfected software and products than a software and phone that will constantly give me problems, even if it has more features on it. NFC is a new market for Apple. yes they are copying. they didn’t look into it because it wasn’t a major focus and showed no significant profitable outcome for Apple. This whole thing with China making NFC as its main payment thing as explained in the article shows a significant profitable outcome for Apple. Now lets finally drop this whole copying thing, lets swallow our pride and just stop arguing about this. Lets look at the positive and negative outcomes of the decisions of these tech giants but in a civilized manner where we don’t have to insult each other to prove our point.

      • Shadowelite123

        don’t some windows phones have NFC? NFC is a technology that was first available for android devices but its not an android based feature. My android phone doesn’t have NFC and it came out after NFC phones came out

      • Jerry Cox

        Apple made the smartphone popular. So there we have it! Anything that anyone will ever do to a smartphone is copying Apple by default… If your logic holds. #selfproclaimedfanboy 🙂

      • “Apple made the smartphone popular”

        Sounds like you’ve never heard of BB, I don’t blame you. You were probably still in the womb by then.

      • Jerry Cox

        The what -berry?! Lol. I kid

      • Shadowelite123

        Blackberry was a base but they didn’t start smartphone popularity. Apple didn’t either, they just started the touchscreen smartphone popularity.

      • Agru

        Hello Jerry, I don’t see any link to my comment actually, could you explain better what you mean?
        I’ve clearly said I don’t believe in the whole “x copied y” thing!

      • Jerry Cox

        To be honest, I wasn’t taking this seriously. My serious contribution to this discussion is that the fact that Apple is adopting this tech should push it forward and bring us closer to the apocalypse… I obviously kid and still haven’t a dog in this fight as my grandpa would say.

      • Rowan09

        iBeacon and NFC aren’t really the same. iBeacon is supported by Samsung, IOS, and other companies because it uses Bluetooth tech. In this article it doesn’t state Apple is scrapping iBeacon it’s just that they may be adding NFC because of China Mobile. The logic being used here would state that the company that used Bluetooth on their phone is being copied by every other company.

      • Agru

        I know Rowan, i’m just reporting what they said, for real! I know they have very different fields of application.

      • Shadowelite123

        iBeacon isn’t for the same purpose of NFC. An NFC competitor is AirDrop

      • “An NFC competitor is AirDrop”

        Not even close (http://bit ly/SYAwEi). AirDrop is just an interface for WiFi-direct technology. It offers the file sharing use-case of NFC, but I don’t see it offering the other use cases as depicted in the linked video; e.g. Payments wherever a PayPass card is accepted, quick-mobile-configurations via NFC cards, etc.

      • Agru

        I know. I said “FANBOYS USED TO SAY”. Not me, not my mum, not my dog, not my squirrel. Fan-boys.
        Anyway AirDrop isn’t the same thing at all!

      • Shadowelite123

        its not entirely the same but its very similar. the missing part of this would be the iBeacon part. NFC when looked at from an iOS point of view, is a mix of iBeacon and Airdrop and in this mix, Airdrop serves most of the functionality.

  • n0ahcruz3

    We dont need nfc. We have the revolutionary game changing passbook! ;P

    • grumpyfuzz

      Oh trust me, I’ve gotten into arguments with apple fanboys saying how NFC is crap for mobile payments, now they will support it.

    • Shadowelite123

      Airdrop* passbook does not serve the same functions as NFC

    • Shadowelite123

      well not all of them. some yes but not all

  • Kurt

    Who made it popular? Android phones did. Apple is copying.

    • Rowan09

      It’s not popular.

      • Not in the iWorld, but NFC is being used everyday for making payments via PayPass equipped debit/credit cards and SmartPhones equipped with it.

      • Rowan09

        It’s not popular. The iPhone and mobile phones in general in the US don’t use NFC or even have many NFC machines in the stores (well in NY) to make purchases. I had it on my bank card but they stopped doing it due to security.

      • It is popular here in Canada. Almost every retail store (be it big as a Superstore, or small as a dollar store) and restaurant have PayPass terminals (which utilize NFC technology). FYI, PayPass-equipped terminals are the ones where you see people tap their card against the terminal and it beeps, indicating the payment info was received.

        Every time I go shopping or just to a nearby Timmies/Subway, I see it being used multiple times while I wait in line to order or checkout. Most of the time, it’s done via credit/debit cards equipped with NFC, other times, it’s done via SmartPhones equipped with NFC.

    • Chris

      Just because Android made it popular doesn’t mean Apple is copying, if you had any sense of logic you would find Samsung copied Apple straight up with their fingerprint scanner in the S5 which Apple have a patent for.

      Google doesn’t have a patent for NFC thus its not copying, grow up and learn the facts.

      • “Samsung copied Apple straight up with their fingerprint scanner in the S5 which Apple have a patent for.”

        Food for thought; the US patent system has next-to nothing to do with invention, it’s mainly about having the cash to buy other people’s inventions.

      • Kurt

        Samsung did copy Apple’s fingerprint scanner. Something I always say. But I’m the bad one because I say Apple copies too. Shame on me.

    • Shadowelite123

      its not copying, its called entering a free market. get over your fanboy self man its annoying

      • Kurt

        Apple copies so does Samsung. Boy that sure does sound fanboyish of me

      • Shadowelite123

        sorry I’m just annoyed with this whole copying thing. I wish we could all just talk about this whole thing with a calm and stable manner. yes discuss the decisions of tech giants but not get so defensive and offensive. like lets just say what good and bad but in a civilized manner and without the hostility. no insults, not prideful comments just collaboration

  • Rectangles, Fingerprint and Gestures aren’t owned by Apple, so how would Samsung be copying Apple?

    That’s what your logic implies.

    • Chris

      When did I ever mention Samsung? Logically speaking fingerprint scanner shouldn’t be in there as Apple have a patent for Touch ID so Samsung did copy them straight up.

      Facts are better than your illogical garbage.

      • “When did I ever mention Samsung?”

        Hence why I said that’s what your dingbat-logic implies

        ” Logically speaking fingerprint scanner shouldn’t be in there as Apple have a patent for Touch ID”

        Ignoring the fact that Apple invented nothing, Touch ID is an evolution of the swipe-based fingerprint scanner, which has been in phones like the Toshiba Portégé G900 for years. So, if Samsung’s implementation of a (swipe-based) fingerprint scanner is a copy of Apple’s (touch-based) fingerprint scanner, then Apple’s implementation is a copy of the Toshiba Portégé G900’s (swipe-based) fingerprint scanner.

        Conventional facts are better than your dingbat-facts.

  • Dante Arellano

    Yea ocourse what else? Same shite every year and we stuck in the same model for years

  • Michael Jordet

    NFC (RFID) is Soooo 1980s. Give me back my Bitcoin wallet!