iPhone 5s promo (A7 chip closeup 002)

Apple hasn’t fully documented the new 64-bit A7 chip that powers the iPhone 5s (they never do that) so we’ll have to wait until the handset goes on sale this Friday so that Chipworks can put the chip under a microscope, but that hasn’t stopped people in the know from speculating.

AnandTech knows hardware perhaps better than anyone else out there and its founder Anand Lal Shimpi posted a detailed iPHone 5s review which, among other things, put the A7 chip through its paces to conclude that Apple is still using a dual-core design for the CPU part…

Based on Geekbench scores and Anand’s own internal tools, he says the A7 chip has two cores/two threads. He even checked with Geekbench developer to ensure that the number of threads isn’t hard coded.

“Looking at the ratio of single to multithreaded performance on the iPhone 5s, it’s safe to say that we’re dealing with a dual-core part,” the review notes.

“The dual-core A7 is now the fastest system-on-a-chip we’ve tested under SunSpider, even outpacing Qualcomm’s Snapdragon 800 and ARM’s Cortex A15,” wrote Anand.

He shed more light on the matter in a follow-up interview with CNET:

The tools that count cores query the operating system and the OS returns the number of logical CPUs and they only returned two. The quad-core card was kind of forced.

It’s definitely not the only way to arrive at the ideal performance-power for a phone. These days outside of the Apple space, it’s kind of difficult to sell a flagship phone without four cores.

We won’t know for sure until semiconductor experts have a chance to perform electronic analysis of the A7 package, though it’s quite safe to take Anand’s conclusion for granted – going with four CPU cores would no doubt draw more power and reduce battery life.

The review states that the A7 package contains 1GB of RAM, just like its predecessor.

Apple September 2013 event (iPhone 5s, 64-bit slide 002)

AnandTech previously called the A7 “is the world’s first consumer ARM based system-on-a-chip with 64-bit support,” which sounds just about right to us.

Their review also identifies the CPU portion of the chip as a dual-core CPU clocked at 1.3GHz and dubbed Cyclone (based on a unique string looking at the iPhone 5s while it booted).

Cyclone likely resembles a beefier Swift core (or at least Swift inspired) than a new design from the ground up. That means we’re likely talking about a 3-wide front end, and somewhere in the 5 – 7 range of execution ports. The design is likely also capable of out-of-order execution, given the performance levels we’ve been seeing.

With the A6, Apple for the first time designed its own CPU core (based on the licensed ARMv7 instruction set) rather than simply use a licensed CPU from ARM like in previous designs.

 

  • Tom Brady

    Lol I have no idea what any of the stuff means. I just want the damn phone

  • Jonathan

    • Tom Brady

      Oh OK

    • FOFF

      always does

    • Just like the 5 outperformed the S4….oh wait, it didn’t.

      • Jonathan

        Because the S4 came out after the 5. The S4 made its stuff better. The 5S came after the S4, and the 5S is better than the S4. the S5 will just do the same thing. It’s an endless cycle.

      • ipod

        Well, finger print scanner is worse on S5 🙂 much worse

      • ClaudieX X

        Sometimes, you… Droid lovers must stay quiet.

      • mehrab

        Itwas never supposed to YOU FANBOY! But guess what? It actu lly does in games and internet web page RENDERING speeds LOL

      • There you go again, typing shit out of your ass, thinking it’ll make it factual…

      • mehrab

        What? Do you even own a gs4/one/iphone 5 i dont think you do.. My sh*t actually is true the iphone 5 offers the t best gameplay thats like a fact see a video on youtube “real racing 3 xperia z vs htc one vs gs4 vs iphone 5” and has the best score on sunspider. The 5 was never meant to outperform the gs4 but it does which is due to android touchwiz play store apps poor optimzation shitty cores and bad gpu

      • ClaudieX X

        Sometimes, you… Droid lovers… Must stay quiet

      • Sometimes, you iTards, must do some logical reasoning instead of ignoramusly following Crapple’s behind…

      • ClaudieX X

        Logical reasoning is what I’m doing, that’s why I’m telling you to shut up and stop being the Buffon of the blog.

      • You’re clearly following Crapple’s behind ’cause you can’t seem to accept the truth about their device being beaten in performance. In which case, you should logically GTFO and find an iTardsOnlyBlog; where you’ll never come across anything negative about or questioning Crapple’s doings.

      • ClaudieX X

        The joke is on you, Buffon. You don’t deserve a class of hardware and software theory. So keep making us laugh.

      • K…idiot, laugh harder until your head explodes.

      • ClaudieX X

        That’s your job… Thanks

    • das

      no ,note 3 beats it by a mile actually …….. and was unveiled weeks before it

  • Khan Rulzz

    Shamesung just use stunts like octa core processor. No true performance that’s the fact !!!!

    • Jordan Dixon

      Samsung’s tactics are just to impress people who don’t understand how computers work

      • Tom Brady

        But isn’t that the majority?? Most people are like me and have no idea of the difference between the two core processors

      • omrishtam

        yeah that’s right, people see 8-core proccesor with 3GB ram and imdiatly wows….but they have no idea how shit it is compared to a dual core 64-bit with “only” 1GB ram is WAY better than that shit….one of the reason for this is that the android system is LAGGY LIKE HELL! and even a 12-core proccesor wont help if the system is broken…

      • Tom Brady

        One would think more is better but see I’m wrong as hell

      • FOFF

        more is only better if it is configured for maximum efficiency..

      • ✪ aidan harris ✪

        You mean like how Samsuck specifically configures your device to perform at its optimum when doing benchmark tests but performs useless afterwards?

      • Joseph

        You must be doing something wrong if it’s laggy to you. Or it’s just TouchWiz. You don’t seem to know the main reason why Samsung devices lag, and you’re biased because you’re using Samsung’s skin as if it’s the representation of Android as a whole, and not just the unskinned OS (Nexus 7 2G). Trust me, some apps would run even better if Apple made their chip quad-core, but it’s definitely not required right now. I agree with you on that point, at the very least.

      • omrishtam

        i dont use android *ewwwwww* i just heard that MANY people say it is laggy like fk

      • Joseph

        Yes, you probably heard it from anyone who has a low-end or old device that doesn’t run Jellybean. They made a gigantic performance improvement in Jellybean (and having Samsung’s TouchWiz skin makes it useless).

        Do me a favor; don’t bias against Android if you’ve never used it. You just proved that you’re no longer credible as a source of information.

      • FOFF

        i always go to best buy every week when the “latest and greatest” android devices come out and the first thing i notice is UI lag … its very noticeable compared to iphone but not compared to other androids..

      • mehrab

        I”d chose my iphone 5 out of my gs4/htcone mainly for mutitasking efficiency webpage rendering gaming and consihent performance the iphone 5 came out MONTHS beforehe htc one/gs4 yet both of those devices fail to beat ito real world performance but on paper they beated it lol. They also failed to beat the camera every tech channel speaks highly of the iphone 5″s camera

      • Guest

        I was going to type something out… but here, this conveys the message perfectly

      • Dan

        Yeah… was going to elaborate, but this conveys the message

      • FOFF

        android is always laggy just sucks

      • TeChNoStyLeZ

        My s3 was laggy and sucked with stock touchwiz ui but after installing a custom rom based on pure non skinned android I forgot what the word lag means

      • Dan

        Take that logic somewhere else man!

      • mehrab

        Android is a slow laggish inconsistent operating system. That comes from my 3 years of usage

      • Dan

        your opinion means nothing to me, that comes from experience as well

      • mehrab

        Does it matter? Why would my opinion matter anyway? Im saying a fact, android is slower then ios. Admit it.

      • Dan

        I never said android is faster than IOS, I don’t have an iPhone 5 or 5S, so to presume that would make me pretty ignorant.

        You say android is slow laggish and inconsistent. I have a Note 2, it is not slow, does not lag nor crash often (did once or twice, was my fault). Hence, your statement is either opinion or stereotypical ignorance.

        Either way, that’s why your opinion/statement means nothing to me.

        PS. Stay in the present, Jelly Bean came out in july 2012. That OS on a high end phone performs very well.

      • mehrab

        I havent seen an device that runs as well as a iphone does the nexus 4 does but is slow at app launching and i s horrible for gaming. The note 2 does have good performance is it fast or smooth as an iphone well when you put them together and test them the note 2 gets beat but its not that big of a deal since its still kinda fast i mean cmon its only 264 ppi which gives it that power. App performance is acceptable gaming on it is acceptable is it the best? Nope the best are iPhones no matter what the specs are. I think the note 3 will be stutterish (bcoso f the ppi a reason why htc one and gs4 is so laggish) tho im not sure about the note 3 let me get my hands on it for a month or 2 lol jelly bean on a htc one/gs4 is lousy. Stock jelly bean is good to some extent as far as i”ve heard

      • craig calkins

        OK Straight up you must not have had any high end device running STOCK ANDROID. I Own a GS4 and it produces some of the best pictures ive EVER SEEN ON A PHONE. I’ve used Android since day one, Starting from the Tmo G1, to the Mytouch3G, MyTouch4G, HTC G2, Samsung Galaxy S2(1.5GHz TMo edition), Droid Bionic, Droid X2, Droid Incredible 1 and 2, Samsung S3, Galaxy S4, and Galaxy Note 3. I’ve also used multiple other devices, and they all perform well, exceptionally well when on STOCK android, with NO TouchJizz, No HTC Sense(which actually is quite smooth on the incredible 2) and NO MotoBlur. One thing i’ve noticed with TouchWiz is that with every update the so called “lag” does not increase; it only gets faster; smoother. Where as, with Apple, it leaves the device on an update that keeps it Insanely laggy, heck, almost unusable in some cases. Now, imagine jailbreaking. anyone that has jailbreaked their device it can get slower, especially when you put SKINS on it with WINTERBOARD. Not one device from Apple that i have used that is on it’s final update has it still been nice, smooth and clean. The Smoothest device ive used is the Original iPad, but download anything and you’re screwed. WIth android, at least, with devices less than 3 years old, they arent left with shit lag with their final update. the G1 and MyTouch 3G do suffer on their last update, horribly, but if you look at their specs you’d understand. The Droid X2 and its MotoBlur is somewhat laggy, yet that device with it’s Tegra 2 and 512 mb of ram has turned multiple friends to Android. Now, Apple’s devices are nice, but they go to shit right away. I want to get an iPod Touch, but the 5G’s year old (even older since its an A5) hardware, is too old for me. With iOS 8 i wouldn’t be surprised to see lag. My 2 year old Tmo S2 is on 4.1.2, started at 2.3.5, and yet it runs like a charm, doesnt lag it games, and the only problem is that the power button will stick. I love that Phone. Im upgraded to an S4, and i love the brilliant 1080p screen, which is better than the so called “retina” displays on apple devices. Retina displays have somewhere around 310 pixels per inch, which isn’t retina, not even close. and dont get me started with the fact that its LCD. The S4 has a AMOLED FHD screen, i cant remember what the AM stands for, but OLED stands for Organic Light Emitting Diode, which i see gives the best color and quality overall. It has ~441 pixels per inch, much higher than Apple’s so called “retina”, resulting in a much sharper image. Oh, and a True Retina display would had around 471 pixels per inch, about anything above that and you wont notice a difference.

      • mehrab

        I owned/own htc one,samsung glaxy s3″s and s4,note 2 note 3 htc one nexus 4 and yes i know stock android is smoother i like stock android expirience then any other but its still laggy inside some apps and games are not very optimized neither are apps and it stutters every now and then. Apple devices are already the smoothest they dont have to make it smoother ormore effiecient cos they already are since androids are laggy their key goal is to make it smoother hence project butter and all i have used an iphone 4 (2010modelflagship) on ios 7 also used a 4s i was surpirsed at the performance of it. It was acutally very good it was fast and smooth all ios 7 devices are smooth but not as smooth as the iphone 4 was on ios 6 like duh it has so much more effects and features gling into the mix. Final staged ios devices means you must update ios lets you run the most lastest os on the oldest devices which android never can do. I actually hate my galaxy s4,s display pentile makes the text look blurrry and ugly amoled is not as color accurate or bright as a retina display. And check this out btw iphones have 326* on a 4 inch screen which makes it tighter hence sharper then a 5 inch screen adding more ppi will not do anything as our eyes cant distinguish them further more, samsung counts 2 color signals (subpixel) a pixel with its oentile tech where as apple counts 3 subpixels as one pixel that means apple has 9 percent more sub pixels then samsung which helps alot with the sharpness

      • Jarotron

        Notice how craig calkins list doesnt include an iphone? I actually own the iphone 5 and a GS4. (GS4 is my wifes) my iphone is way smoother, way more efficient, and for the most part considerably faster in real world opperation. Android is a whore (like windows) made to run on every mix and match hardware configuration under the sun. This causes unavoidable issues for every device it runs on, therefore it is impossible to optimize it 100% for any phone. This is why it is typically is a glitchy, buggy, inconsistent piece of shit in comparison. (just like windows vs apple computers.) Apple designs IOS to run on a small handfull of devices that it has complete and extensive knowledge of (since they design them both.) This is why Apple has always been able to match pc/android performance with less power. Its called optimization. In these stupid arguments remember hardware is only as good as its software. Oh and btw, need I mention that 90+ percent of smartphone apps are designed with apple in mind first and usually ported over to android. Theres another set of problems cementing my point. Dont misunderstand me, I was anti Apple (like most people who have never owned one) my whole life until I actually gave them a chance. Now I can honestly say its like comparing Timex and Rolex. Apple just runs better and is more stable period. If you want something that does what its supposed to do without constantly F!@#ing with it, its really a no brainer. Sorry droid lovers

      • Rui Nelson Carneiro

        It’s just a skin, doesn’t make the system faster or slower.

      • TeChNoStyLeZ

        of course it does. A skins needs more ram and slows down the system just like winterboard themes on the iphones. They are also skins and an iphone with an icon theme active is way slower

      • Rui Nelson Carneiro

        No it doesn’t, because the system “forgets” the older skin.

        At least on Android.

        It’s an excuse for a slow system.

        Skins on the iOS, I hadn’t any, and must be different story

      • erod434

        Touchwiz isn’t just a skin theme, it is a set of frameworks which run both in the background and in the foreground. These frameworks run alongside google’s and sometimes on top of them, causing a much slower system.

      • Rui Nelson Carneiro

        Those frameworks are needed to the smartphone to be competitive. And they are part of the phone, if you flash AOSP, you’ll lose the warrany the second you modify the bootloader.

      • erod434

        But are they though? I mean if you put stock android on it there is very little you lose and a lot you gain, so I see no reason why they are needed for the smartphone to be competitive. Also, for the warrenty, the same can be said for the iphone and jailbreaking it. Many argue that their iphone is only worth it because of the jailbreak.

      • Hwang Lee

        It makes the whole UI alot slower though.

        I have a Galaxy S4 and recently flashed stock Android, and now it’s honestly really smooth (compared to Touchwiz). If you’re ever going to compare the fluidity of iOS and Android, compare it to stock.

      • Guest

        stop cursing. make yourself out to be so trashy. unless that’s what you are going for then nevermind

      • FOFF

        i have to make an effort to curse…lol

      • FOFF

        3gb or ram is nice.. but apple has figured out how to make 1gb of super fast ram work as good or better than most 3gm ram android phones..

      • omrishtam

        it isnt about the 1GB that matters…that’s what people dont get, that the proccesor matters more then amount of ram on devices like these

      • TeChNoStyLeZ

        thats not true. More ram makes it possible to run more apps at the same time ( also more background apps ) so 1gb of ram ( wich usually is around 800mb useable ) will start to lag sooner than 2 or even 3gb. A phone with 1gb of ram may also start to lag after instaling a lot of apps ( over 500 ) while a 2gb ram phone wont lag due to too much installed apps. You would more likely run out of storage before the phone starts to lag.

      • ClaudieX X

        That’s windows thinking. Trust me… Bad programmed apps stays in memory even when they are not used any more. 95% of windows apps has this bad refresh routines. Going to Linux or Mac OS you will understand that if it is well programmed… 1gb with appropriate commands to refresh memory is far better than 3gb of bad programmed apps.

      • Kurt

        only 1 android phone has 3GB of ram-note 3. with the note 2 you can run 5 videos (some flash others not) on the screen at the same time and it doesn’t lag. The 6th video begins to lag. The note 3 should be even better. I’m sure the iphone 5s will run great, but it can’t compete with the note 3 with regards to multitasking.

      • PaeseSono

        No one will going to run 5 videos on the screen. And its not about compete, you can’t compare them together, its a phablet and a iphone.

      • ClaudieX X

        Is 32 bits vs 64 bits we can’t even start talking

      • ClaudieX X

        It’s 32 bits vs 64 bits… We can’t even start talking.

      • Sokrates

        you totally nailed it!!

      • ipod

        You my bro …. (y)

      • Joseph

        Octa-core processors can improve multitasking performance or the general performance of an app if they can make use of it. It’s definitely not needed, though.

      • Kurt

        Which is why, we don’t have real multitasking

      • FOFF

        i have 100% real multi tasking on my jailbroken iphone 5 and ipad 4 and it works perfectly..

      • Kurt

        My 4s was good on ios 6 with real multtasking via a jailbreak tweak too. but i’m lagging on ios 7. annoying how windows/android etc you get a faster device when you upgrade the OS, but iOS is the opposite 🙁 hopefully you will have a better experience since you have a newer phone!

      • RarestName

        I can agree with that. I updated my brother’s 4S to iOS 7, and I can definitely feel the speed differences.

      • ClaudieX X

        Your theory goes down when you remember windows xp to windows vista upgrade. Win 95 to win 98. Games on DOS vs the same game on windows 3.1.

      • BoardDWorld

        Maybe try a fresh install via iTunes. My wife’s 4S has worked flawlessly smooth since Beta 6.

      • FOFF

        big screen is the only thing that android has over IOS

      • omrishtam

        i am not sure this is a good thing…i mean like seriously…5 inch? 4.3 inch is my max

      • Dan

        that’s pretty personal, for me, 5” is the minimum. Depends how you use the device I guess.

      • BoardDWorld

        Once you’re at 5″ you’re in Tablet territory in means of comfort.

      • Dan

        Well… I have a Note 2, 5.5”, fits in my jeans (slim, not skinny) pretty comfortably. I don’t consider that tablet territory imo.

      • mav3rick

        And bitten pome is for what users want. Only that pome tells users what they should want. Sheep just need to follow.

      • Cameli Paulos

        Yupp
        just take a Example of iPhone 5 vs Galaxy S4
        iPhone 5 with Dual Core Processor has Geek Benchmark of 1667 with iOS 6
        where S4 with EIGHT processors got 3100 (actually this one also a fake score…check google)
        so Dual core processor can give u half of the Score of 8 Cores!!!

        its really Shame on Samsung!!

        adding processor to show good Specification list is not good

      • Cameli Paulos

        with iOS 7 Beta 3 iPhone 5 got more bechmark that is more than 1700 which is not too high but still no one has tested iPhone 5 benchmark with iOS 7 GM version & it will be very good so half of the performance is actually going more than 60% of EIGHT CORES

    • FOFF

      yup samsung is a POS phone maker ever their galaxy phones look and feel lame compared to iPhones

  • Question

    Typo.. “iPHone” correction iPhone

    • RarestName

      “hon”

  • Joseph

    Apple is leading at the moment. However, as other phone manufacturers move to the (potential) 64-bit standard, they may eventually beat Apple in terms of performance once again. This is the type of innovation, though, that benefits everyone and helps all types of mobile devices jump ahead and become more useful for everyone. It’s an interesting game to play.

    • Cameron Chao

      You really think Apple is playing games with their competitors? from what i see is they choose to outdo themselves, ignoring the crap that comes out of their competitors, like 42MP cameras, 7 inch screens and 8 core processors. If you dont notice the pattern already, Apple always leads with their new phones.

      • Joseph

        Which, regardless, is staying ahead of their competitors. My point remains intact. I also never said that Apple is playing games with their competitors… Re-read my statement, please.

      • HyVriD

        You sir, know what you’re saying. Respect.

      • Joseph

        Thanks! 🙂

      • FOFF

        lol.. yeah android POS phone makes will keep advertising 16 cores and 60 mega pixel cameras etc but still not be up to the iPhone functionality and usability standards

      • Dan

        That’s a matter of opinion. I moved from iPhone to Note 2 and have no regrets. Must not be quite the POS you made it out to be.

    • FOFF

      but as usual in real world usage the iphone will remain the smoothest and best experience..

    • Rui Nelson Carneiro

      Even if there will be released 64 bit CPU’s for Android, doesn’t matter, most apps will be 32 bit for a long time.

      In Apple’s world, a developer just needs to go to Xcode and press a button and the voilá, the complete app (including libraries) will be 64 bit on A7 devices.

      Source: I develop for Apple platforms.

      • erod434

        Your ignorance is showing… Android is not like ios where the entire kernel and os needs to be rewritten for 64 bit. It runs on the linux kernel which already supports 64 bit operating. All it will take will be a 64 bit processor and google to give it the green light and all apps will work natively in 64 bit.

      • Rui Nelson Carneiro

        Linux doesn’t run on 64 bit ARM, stupid

        Apps will of course need to be rewritten 64bit and Dalvik VM too.

      • erod434

        Nope your wrong, apps do not need to be rewritten, they need to be recompiled for 64 bit which takes very little effort for developers.

      • BoardDWorld

        .

      • ClaudieX X

        Shame on you! for your lack of real programming skills that confuse the users. You never programmed or recompiled 32 bits to 64 bits routines… It will make you nuts.
        By the way, actual ARM based chips are 32 bits processors.
        Another one…. iOS is based on Mac OS X, that is based on Unix. Linux was designed to be a “clone” of Unix. It’s *supposed* to be a look-alike, but at the same time be an “independent and free implementation”. So if you want to talk… Do it right.

    • ClaudieX X

      Samsung said it will make 64 bits “COMPATIBLE” chips, that’s not a 64 bits chip… It’s a 32 bits chip that brake one 64 bit routine in 2 32 bits routines, needing 2 clock cycles to do what a real 64 bits chip do in one. That was what intel did when AMD did the Opteron 64 bit chip… first 64 bit x86 compatible. Intel make 64 bits COMPATIBLE chips. A shame in real performance. That were the gold days of AMD.

  • leart za jmi

    apple rocks 😀

    • omrishtam

      i lold DAT PHOTO

    • RarestName

      I use a Samsung vacuum cleaner, and I am not a dog.

      • leart za jmi

        Sure not.
        But some troll are, and this maybe is their face when reading this post here.
        Cute dog anyway 😉

  • ifunphoneguy

    Hope I get one tomorrow, but I doubt that will happen and probably will have to wait till the middle of October to get mines. Great planning Apple.

    • FOFF

      i will only get a 5S is i can get a used one for under $200 and there s a full untethered jailbreak for it

  • FOFF

    “With the A6, Apple for the first time designed its own CPU core (based on the licensed ARMv7 instruction set) rather than simply use a licensed CPU from ARM like in previous designs.” i really like that approach

    • not a spark

      Yep me too that’s why I prefer Qualcomm snapdragon over nvidias tegra

  • FOFF

    okay so now im ready fro iphone6.. dear god it has to have a larger screen.. that is all the i-phone is missing now

  • not a spark

    Actually according to geekbench the Samsung galaxy s4 beats the iPhone 5s in the multicore test, getting 2000 while the iPhone 5s gets 1850. Sure in single core the 5s owns the S4, 1000 to 700. But the galaxy s4 is only running the snapdragon 600, there are more powerful phones just being released that run the snapdragon 800 which will probably beat the iPhone 5s even more. (And yes let the downvotes begin)

    • coowkeee

      it’s just a number. with the usability and smoothness it is really, iphone 5s, even iphone 5 is smoother than galaxy s4..

    • Chliii

      Where did you find this? I can’t find a geekbench test of the 5s anywhere yet. Will probably be released tomorrow as soon as they get their hands on one

    • Ignacio Irigoyen

      In the AnandTech very, very long review they actually pin the iphone 5s again some processors that exist but are not in any phone yet and in most cases the iphone comes on top.

      But of course Samsung or other Android bendor will build something better, and next year Apple will once again get the advantage, is an eternal dance of improvement, in whitch we are the winners.

    • ClaudieX X

      Well this test is testing 32 bits performance so if the routines are on 64 bits mode… the score of iPhone 5s will scale up 80%… minimum.

  • Jerry

    Yeeeaahhuhh! Suck on that Samsuck

  • Berchtwald

    What you people fail to understand is that ios is extremely simply. That is the reason of the iphone’s good performance. On the other hand, latest versions of android (no they don’t lag or stutter or anything, ever since 4.0) are really advanced. They offer the user much more and that’s why they need better hardware to run (such as quad core 2.3 ghz & 3 gb of ram). The performance of top android phones isn’t worse than iphone’s. Something else you don’t know is that if an iphone actually entered antutu (which is a cpu benchmarking test) it would be crushed… End of story, you can hate if you want to but it’s the truth.
    Oh and by the way, get your facts straight. The 64-bit architecture is not a perfomance enhancer upgrade. It is simply a marekting method, the like of which you blame samsung on and hate it for that.

    • ClaudieX X

      Wrong n*1: You misunderstood the OS believing that minimalistic interface means a basic OS and the most of times is the opposite. Heavier OS’s means bad programmers or heavier UI interface. ( somebody said Microsoft ? ) you will notice if it is one or the another by looking the UI, if it is more eye candy or the look is the same but heavier without explication.

      Wrong n*2: you doesn’t need quad core 2.3 ghz and 3 gb of ram because of the lot of options Android gives to you. Remember that Android is Linux based and iOS is Unix based. So being the same kernel estructure the only reason of all the problems of Android is not the complexity, is because android apps are not Linux native processes, they are Dalvik executables that works on a java like virtual machine, they are more JavaScript code within native JavaScript engine… Exact the same as Google ChromeOS. If you know programming just open a .dex android app and you will see what I’m talking about.

      Wrong n* 3: More cycles per second not mean more speed. Google the punch in the face that made AMD to intel when they release Athlon XP. A lot slower processor doing same or more things than bigger ghz intel counterpart. That’s why sempron 3000+ is only 1800ghz. The 3000 is the way that AMD is telling you that this processor is equal to intel 3.0ghz celeron. Why? How? Simply… Doing more things every clock cycle

      Wrong n*4: 64 bits is far from being a marketing method, for making it easy…. Thanks to 64bits you can use all desktop OS at full performance with full specs. Think it like a tube… One doubles the width of the other… Yow must fill a swimming pool… The wider the quicker you will fill it. So back to hardware… 64 bits will make a big jump if the app is full 64 bit compiled.

  • Guest

    Dude chillax… Firstly I didn’t comment on the article, and I’m not acting out because android got ‘offended’. My comment was rather directed to some of the other comments on this article. As for the benchmark tests that is a core-for-core test, not a general performance test. It is common sense that the a7 chib would excel because Apple put all it’s effort on two cores, while most of the other chips had most of the attention from their respective companies on four or more cores. Besides I too have an iphone 4s and I know Apple all too well. And ios IS simple when compared to android. Comtradicting that would mean one has never used both of them in an unbiased way.

  • Patrick

    getting mine 8am tomorrow!!!!!!!!

  • Berchtwald

    Dude chillax… Firstly I didn’t comment on the article, and I’m not acting out because android got ‘offended’. My comment was rather directed to some of the other comments on this article. As for the benchmark tests that is a core-for-core test, not a general performance test. It is common sense that the a7 chip would excel because Apple put all it’s effort on two cores, while most of the other chips had most of the attention from their respective companies on four or more cores. Besides I too have an iphone 4s and I know Apple all too well. And ios IS simple when compared to android. Contradicting that would mean one has never used both of them in an unbiased way.

    As for your comment on the “lag topic” I didn’t imply that no android phone lags. I was talking about top android phones since they were being compared to top iphones. What I said about the resolution of the screen was to support my idea that top android phones need better hardware to get the same performance as iphones, because they offer more to the user. (I mentioned all of those things in both of my comments so there’s no need to mention them again, if you have any doubts about them you can ask any person who has basic understanding of ios and android and is unbiased.)

    • BoardDWorld

      Even the S4 lags during UI transitions. I don’t know why you feel you must rant? This is simply some top people in the field of testing hardware putting it out there for people to read. But alas go on defending your beloved Android.

      • Berchtwald

        I’m trying to give out a fair judgement seeing how many people are misinterpreting what they hear, or they simply take what apple tells them for granted.

  • Felipe Lopez

  • Lol, it’s now considered a fair comparison when Apple releases the newer device…when the S5 is released, expect the fantards to whine about it being an unfair comparison…

  • madhurjyaroy

    Apple uses low configurations efficiently, while Samsung misuses high configurations wastefully!
    I have a iPhone 5 and a Lumia 1020 both running a dual core processor and are no less than Samsung’s Octa Core 2.3 Ghz Processor!(read S4)
    If you are buying a Samsung Phone also beware that you won’t be able to wear pants with shorter pockets!
    Samsung is a CHEAT! Trying to lure customers with their CHEAP (so called HIGH END) specs is their main motto!
    .
    If someone asks me to rank Phone OSes, it’d be :
    #1 iOS (Really innovative and ability to use hardware efficiently)
    #2 Windows Phone 8 (Almost follows Apple’s tracks)
    #3 BB10 (Simply Good)
    #4 Android (Resource hungry and too much junk)