Our problem with Apple

By , Nov 1, 2016

Chuq Von Rospach has a great piece about how Apple could have avoided much of the controversy following last week’s Mac event. It’s a great read, but the one line I will remember is that one:

We demand Apple innovate, but we insist they don’t change anything.

This truly resonated with me because it’s a feeling I’ve had for a long time but never was able to express in a clear and simple manner. Chuq did in in just eleven words.

Read the whole piece when you have a few minutes.

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  • Jamessmooth

    What can you say… Short and to the point. So very true.

  • Bugs Bunnay

    Short is right. Probably idb’s shortest article!

  • malhal

    Haha the point where he found out the CPU speed has in fact not doubled since his 2013 model was hilarious. Stupid article.

  • Impreza

    Yet when commenters on iDB pose complaints or a criticism towards Apple, they invariably get the ‘troll’ card thrown at them by readers/commenters herein. Perhaps they should just post links to other articles on the subject to avoid being labelled a troll by some of the brainstrusts.

    • Digitalfeind

      So true. I remember when I criticized Apple on iDB two years ago I was accused of being an android fan boy. I took a screen shot of all my devices in Find my iPhone app, 6 total, and shut the poster up. Lol.

      • Impreza

        Unbelievable.

    • Mark S

      You say braintrust I say fan boy loser who lives in mom’s basement.

      • Impreza

        Touche

  • Endriu Andrei

    I just need a iOS 10 jb , that’s all

    • Diego Milano

      No kidding!

    • Digitalfeind

      I updated my 5s to iOS 10 and really only miss a few tweaks for it. My 6S is still jailbroken on iOS 9.0.2. I’ll never update and jailbreak unless it is full untethered jailbreak.

      • cdlenfert

        Semi-tether is totally fine here. I moved from 9.0.2 and enjoy the more stable and updated OS. Moot point though since you missed the window to upgrade.

    • Charity Case

      #Cosign

  • AMB_07

    I don’t entirely agree. We want Apple to innovate and take the company in a certain way but then Apple takes the company in a different way and we feel disappointed. Different doesn’t always equal better. Apple lately seems to like radical departures and shifts and labels it as innovative (or at least some of us do). I think what we hate is those radical shifts.

    example: USB-C is clearly the future for port connections. Instead of simply having 1-2 of those on the MB-Pro with like 1 classic USB what we get is a device that not only is more expensive but one that did away with the classic usb ports, removed the mag-safe charger port (50/50 on the love/hate here), and needlessly removed the sd card slot. That’s what people are disappointed with, all of these things combined. So now if you want to plug your iphone to that MB-Pro you need a dongle and that is nothing short of impractical.

    • Vince Reedy

      You don’t need a dongle, you just need a new cable. That is inevitable at some point, it just happens to be now. I do feel however, they should have put a lightning to USBC in with Iphone 7 or the new macs, one or the other

      • AMB_07

        Well you still need to purchase an extra so that really doesn’t change anything here. If they included only the usb-c cable with the iphone then they would put anyone who doesn’t have a usb-c port at a disadvantage.

        That’s why i still feel they should have included a classic usb port with the MB-pro.

      • therealjjohnson

        Not everyone has a MacBook who owns an iPhone. Also, everyone with a iPhone doesnt own a computer. Instead of them putting cables in boxes that may or may not be used, how about people just buy what they need?

      • AMB_07

        I don’t understand what you’re telling me, are you suggesting Apple stops including the cable with the iPhone? If that’s the case I think that’s just silly.

      • therealjjohnson

        No, I’m saying they should add the one in the box that most of the people can use currently. AKA the one that comes in the box now. Adding a USB C cable with the current iPhone would not be ideal because most PCs/Macs across the world still use the older USB connection.

      • AMB_07

        then we are of the same opinion, I said literally the same thing about including only a usb-c cable with the iphone

      • That would be silly as that cable is there to let your charge your phone primarily… The ability to sync it to your computer is secondary at best.

      • Don Walker II

        In that case you could argue that a USB C to lightning would still be an adequate cable to include, alongside a USB C wall adapter; still fulfilling the primary objective of charging the device. Or are you admitting that since the majority of computer owners don’t have access to a USB C port, with it being relatively new technology, including a USB C cable would not be a smart move?

      • Since Apple developers need to connect their iPhones to their computers via cable I think that USB-C to wall would make the most sense. PC users I don’t think should be a consideration for the reasons that no iOS developers use PCs, iPhones don’t need to be attached to PCs to sync or to be setup, and if someone really does want to connect it for some reason you can get an adapter to still make it work. I think that Apple should cater to their developers first and stay in line with their vision of the future.

        As is, their connection makes little sense since it doesn’t work with any of their new laptops meaning that the one group of people that actually NEED to connect it can’t 😛 I would argue that is an oversight on Apple’s part.

      • Don Walker II

        Fair point

      • Vince Reedy

        Agreed

      • Don Walker II

        They put a 3.5mm adapter and lightning headphones in the iPhone e 7 box, both cables that may or may not be used. Should these have been offered as optional purchases in the Apple Store? What say you?

      • therealjjohnson

        I say that most people have headphones that used the 3.5mm jack so the adapter isn’t a waste. The lightening headphones work with the device it shipped with and iPhones dating back to the iPhone 5.

      • Don Walker II

        It seems like a limitation to include a pair of headphones that can only be used with the iPhone and then include an adapter for normal headphones to accommodate something that is seen as standard. Could the phone not then have been shipped with the usual EarPod headset which would still allow the the included 3.5mm to work in tandem? Why create an entirely new product with the exact same quality and functionally but limit the range of use? That seems like more of a waste to me. Also, If I’m going to have a proprietary product, I would find it logical to make it compatible with as many devices within the ecosystem as possible. The adapter and headset is useless to any non-lightning Apple product, but that’s a slightly different point. In the current situation either the adapter is a waste or the lightning EarPods are a waste. If I have 3.5mm headphones I’d use the adapter or if I didn’t I’d be forced to use the lightning headset and ignore the adapter.

      • therealjjohnson

        The headphones are in the box to work with the iPhone though. Specifically. The adapter is for those who want to use a different pair of headphones to connect to the iPhone.

      • Don Walker II

        So so what you’re now saying is that the headphones included with every previous version of the iPhone and iPod, were not specifically for the iPhone? Also, I still don’t understand your reasoning for the justification of the switch from 3.5mm to lightning. Even if you limit the use to the device with which it was included, the adapter would have had even more use with the iPhone itself.

      • raulortiz318

        100% there should have been some form of adapter, if anything a USB-A to USB-C. This would cover plugging an iPhone in, which truthfully, people only do when trying to charge as syncing is all on iCloud now, and also cover if a user needed to copy their existing computer backup on a USB drive to the new one.

        A new product should be set up and ready to go out of the box, and in this case, a lot of people will find themselves ready to transfer their backup and realize they need to go back to a store or order something from Amazon, which is incredibly silly.

      • Don Walker II

        Well said. If I decided to buy this MBP, before I could even unbox it, at the very least I would have to purchase an adapter to restore from a backup.

  • AMB_07

    Had Apple kept the same shell size for the MB Pro they would easily have had the space to keep 1 USB classic, the card-reader and have 2-3 usb-c.

    Forget the magsafe thingy I really have no opinion on that thing, you can replace its space with a usb-c because you still get the same functionality and more.

    Space management is an issue here due to Apple’s obsession with making their products razor-thin. This move is arguably proving to be counter-intuitive in this case.

    I don’t buy into your reasoning, Apple is eliminating ports and happens to sell dongles to emulate said ports. All in the name of thiness.

    • GuiyeC

      I agree with them being completely obsessed with thinness, but that’s it. Who would prefer an SD card reader over 2 more hours of battery life? Who would prefer an USB in two years?
      Apple does happen to sell those adaptors but they are not alone. The thing about USB-C is that it is going to get huge. You can buy an Apple adaptor or you can buy it from someone else much cheaper. There are good and really small USB classic to USB-C adapters for like $10, how many do you really need? You could also buy a flash drive with USB-C and USB classic and probably never need anything else.
      I don’t remember the last time I used an SD card, do you need it? Get an adapter or simply connect your device through USB.
      Why would you impose a card reader? Why that and not an HDMI? That’s the reasoning.
      Again, the discussion about ports is pointless. If they were to make a bigger shell, they should use it for improved internals not for doomed ports.

  • Alan Osborne

    Well said.

  • Luis Finke

    Removing features isn’t innovating. It’s removing features.