Samsung “paying extra careful attention” to Galaxy S8 development due to “huge changes”

By , Oct 11, 2016


Unperturbed by its ill-fated Note 7 flagship, which Samsung has now permanently stopped building due to ongoing battery woes, development of a next-generation Galaxy smartphone is in full swing. Reportedly, the troubled South Korean company is “paying extra careful attention” towards the development of the Galaxy S8.

That’s not just because of quality control issues with the Note 7, but also due to the fact that the Galaxy S8 packs in some “huge” hardware and design changes, according to a new report Tuesday from Korean news site ET News.

“Due to the issues with the Note 7, Samsung Electronics is paying extra careful attention towards development of Galaxy S8,” reads the Korean report.

According to the report, the S8 should have the features Apple is expected to engineer into its Tenth Anniversary iPhone next year, including a bezel-free curved screen with a redesigned Home button/fingerprint reader embedded underneath the glass panel, a dual-lens camera out the back and Qualcomm’s new Snapdragon 830 chip.

Basically, Samsung is planning to fill all of the Galaxy S8’s front display with just the screen, just like Apple is expected to do with the next iPhone, as imagined by the below concept rendering.

iPhone edge to edge ConceptsiPhone 001

“It is heard that Samsung Electronics is planning to eliminate even top and bottom edges of display for Galaxy S8,” creating a full-screen smartphone.

The side bezels should be made even skinnier than on current Galaxies by increasing the curvature of both edges of the AMOLED display. Samsung’s display-making arm should play an important role in volume production of that screen.

As for the Galaxy S8’s dual-cameras, Samsung is currently deciding whether to use all-in-one dual-cameras or separated dual-cameras, said a representative for a component industry. All-in-one dual-cameras have two lenses and a module versus separated dual-cameras that have two separate modules.

Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge teaser 001

Samsung’s dual-cameras will be used to capture depth of field photos akin to the iPhone 7 Plus and are said to be 16 megapixels and eight megapixels versus a pair of 12-megapixel cameras on Apple’s phone.

As for the device’s brains, Samsung’s foundry business is said to start volume production of the Snapdragon 830 chip on a 10-nanometer FinFET process at the end of this year at the earliest, beating rival TSMC. Like the current Galaxy, certain S8 models will use Samsung’s next-generation Exynos chip in place of the Qualcomm one.

The previously rumored Exynos 8995 chip is said to incorporate a 16-nanometer Mali-G71 GPU manufactured by ARM, which appears to be a direct successor to the T880 model found within the Exynos 8990 that’s being used in the Galaxy S7 series and the ill-fated Note 7.

Using ARM’s new Bifrost architecture developed with 4K display and virtual reality applications in mind, the GPU should be almost twice as fast as its predecessor.


Digital Music News recently heard from sources that Samsung Mobile’s leadership is considering removing the 3.55mm headphone jack from the Galaxy S8.

The next Galaxy is expected to release in the first quarter of next year. For what it’s worth, we know from a leaked invite that the next Samsung Unpacked event will be taking place at Mobile World Congress in Barcelona, Spain on February 26.

Mockup top of post via PhoneArena.

Source: ET News

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  • Scott Curry

    In order to restore any of their lost confidence from consumers, they pretty much have to put out a high quality device and practically hand them out. The Note 7 was SO botched, as was it’s recallreplacement. I’m not blaming anyone, just looking at how far Samsung would have to go to retainrestore confidence.

    • Well I’m not too worried about their future.

      Getting caught price fixing CRTs didn’t alienate them from the people that spent way more money than they needed to on them. Nor did price fixing LCDs or RAM. Samsung’s customers don’t care if they were collectively charged billions due to their schemes and they didn’t seem to care when the CEO was publicly exposed for stealing tons of money or when Samsung broke production promises with HTC, stole their ideas and put them into the Galaxy before HTC could find a new company to produce them for them.

      Samsung fans have consistently looked the other way for decades of illegal garbage and I would assume a mistake wouldn’t be all it took to kill them.

      • Julio M.

        Their TV’s are some of the best out there, can’t hate on Samsung as a whole. I actually wanted the S7 to be fixed, I was looking forward to switching after that iPhone 7 unveil.

        I have a 6S Plus, not an Apple hater but was really let down by the “improvements” made.

      • Rowan09

        The improvements were huge you are just not happy with the design. It was already clear the 7/7+ would keep this design.

      • Bangali

        He just said he was let down by the improvements, not that they weren’t huge..

      • My love or hate of a company isn’t based on the quality of products. If a company makes a bad product I don’t hate them I just don’t buy their stuff.

        My gripes with Samsung come from decades of illegal activity that hurts customers and companies alike with 0 regard for anyone other than themselves. To add insult to injury are the countless Samsung fans that praise their every deed and the news outlets that spew unapologetic lies and misinformation about companies like Apple.

        Even if Samsung unveils the Galaxy 8 and the whole world stands in awe and admits that it is the best phone ever made I still won’t buy it. Nor would I get their TVs or anything else because I can’t in good conscience support a company that has done so much evil without any shame. This isn’t about the quality of a product line, it’s about the morals of the company as a whole. I would rather buy something of lesser quality and know it comes from an honest man then something “great” from a crook.

      • Ethan Monteon

        Are you sure you’re not talking about Apple?

      • John Smith


      • Blip dude

        Yeah, both actually.

      • Interesting claim. Care to list some examples of Apple’s crimes? Have they ever been accused of global price fixing or weaponizing their product lines (oh wait that’s not even possible for them to do) or can you name any lawyer that has ever left Apple only to write books exposing all the bribery, theft and other illegal activities of the company?

      • What illegal stuff has Apple done? Apple was actually the one that exposed Samsung’s price fixing of LCD panels back when Samsung was keeping that entire market artificially inflated worldwide. Just like Samsung did with many other products.

        Samsung as you know creates products for all sorts of companies, so when HTC came to them and had features that Samsung apparently felt rivaled their Galaxy they agreed to make it, suddenly changed their mind months later when it would be too late for HTC to find replacement manufacturers, and then not only beat HTC’s phone to launch but had HTC’s new designs inside the Galaxy. Sound familiar? Apple is claiming that Samsung did something similar to them in the case right now in the supreme court. As have many many other companies.

        I mean, if you want proof of Samsung’s corruption on an almost comical level, one of the time Apple exposed Samsung for illegal activities the authorities arrived to seize evidence and conduct an investigation and were blocked by guards who wouldn’t let them into the building. After police finally gained entrance they immediately seized the security tapes to see what was going on while they were detailed and watched in awe as they saw employees running through the building tearing out computers, setting up others ones and even one man who locked himself in a room and started eating files.

        Apple isn’t perfect. But there is a reason why Samsung is constantly looking for new lawyers. I mean when your own lawyers call you the most corrupt company on the planet or write books exposing thousands of crimes committed by the company it’s hard to lump them in the same category. So no, unless you know otherwise, I can’t swap out Samsung for Apple in that earlier statement.

      • Ethan Monteon

        What illegal things has Apple done? Hmmm… Tax evasion, labor camps/child labor, treatment of employees with harsh policies, and deleting competitions music…

      • Shinonuke

        Tax invasion??

      • Rowan09

        Tax evasion and child labor camps? If you’re trying to use American standard with China your way off and Apple pays its taxes they just want to tax them more. Every company tries to pay the least amount of tax possible, just like we do.

      • Unfortunately you were rather vague so I’m making some assumptions (please clarify if I’m wrong though).

        I assume when you talk about tax evasions you’re talking about the Ireland Tax setup? Because if so then you’re overlooking the part where Apple did everything legally. In fact the Ireland government has repeatedly testified in legal settings that Apple has paid every penny it owes and that no special treatment was given to them that isn’t given to others. So perhaps the government is lying and really did give Apple a special deal to get their business but then, isn’t that the government’s fault not Apple’s?

        As far as the labor camps/slave labor I had to laugh a bit at this one. Apple doesn’t do this directly nor do they endorse it in any way. Any time Apple has found out that a supplier is doing this Apple tries to intervene. But again, the problem is the suppliers. And if you look at those suppliers you’ll see that they supply not only to Apple, but to Samsung and about everyone else. The point is, Apple isn’t doing something illegal buy buying a battery any more than you are when you buy the phone. I agree that it’s a horrible practice, but the only way Apple can be held liable is if we hold ourselves liable for this. Can I call you a criminal then? Should you be prosecuted for purchasing goods made with slave labor?

        Don’t know what you’re referring to about the treatment of employees as I haven’t heard any stories about this in the news.

        And finally if you’re referring to the Spotify app then again you’re not paying attention. This was debunked a long time ago. Apple has openly told them in writing they are welcome to be on the store if they don’t stop trying to break the rules of the App Store. Apple allows for all competitive products as long as they adhere to the rules. Spotify insists it’s above the rules and refuses to adhere to them so Apple kicked them out. So nothing illegal about that either.

        Care to point out the situations you had in mind? Or did I nail them? Because if I did I’m sorry to say I don’t think you have much of a case…

      • Impreza

        Weren’t  involved with android over the poaching of employees or to put it mildly, colluding with a number of firms that involved the non hiring of personnel from each other and in efect stymying any opportunity an employee had of gaining a position in anotjer company. Both companies shit on their customers, it’s just  customers wear teflon trench coats.

      • Not quite… Apparently back in the days when Steve Jobs was CEO of Apple and Pixar and Google’s founder was on the board at Apple and agreement was made between the companies that they wouldn’t cold call random phone numbers of eachother’s staff members to try and poach them. So no cold calling. That was it. The could still hire each other all they wanted, it just couldn’t be done in a way were employee’s were wasting company time due to these tactics.

        When the investigation first started it was under the belief that it was something more significant than this. When the DOJ discovered that this was all it was they decided to work with the companies to draw up new clear rules about what legal and illegal poaching should look like. So while it started as a scandal and the DOJ ultimately still rendered a verdict on the matter to set legal precedent it turns out that none of the companies were really doing anything to stymy employee opportunity as they could recruit each other outside work or my any other means other than cold calling.

      • Docservlet

        It’s amazing how uninformed some people really are.

      • Impreza

        I couldn’t agree more. Deja vu, I feel like an entourage moment.

      • Docservlet

        He’s right. It was a no cold calling agreement.

      • Yeah but like he said it was just from memory. Seeing as how some people made a HUGE deal of it when they thought they had finally caught Apple doing something wrong and the DOJ even got involved people originally thought it was a huge scandal and when the truth came out and everyone was like, “that’s it?!” and the reporting on it stopped overnight.

        Funny how the naysayers didn’t want to talk about it at that point 😛 So I can’t blame someone if they didn’t know. I’ll just blame the Apple haters for not going on the news with equal enthusiasm to admit they were wrong and apologize for spreading inaccurate information if I feel like blaming anyone.

      • Docservlet

        That’s the funny thing about the press Apple gets. When it’s negative news, it’s a tidal wave of nonsense of course with the trolls creating unnecessary waves. When it turns out that the negative was not actually negative or even that bad, there’s no retractions or restatements of it. Kinda like the bendgate that never was. 😉

      • Impreza

        Yes I think from memory that was where a particular email from the late Steve Jobs to Googles boss that I think was just a smile 🙂 Either in response or initiating it over that agreement. I’m going off memory alone.

      • Docservlet

        It was a NO COLD CALLING agreement. It’s on wikipedia. That’s it.

  • “According to the report, the S8 should have the features Apple is expected to engineer into its Tenth Anniversary iPhone next year” Isn’t trying to beat Apple rumors exactly what Samsung admitted started this whole mess to begin with?

    Why not forget copying what Apple has done and what they are rumored to do and try thinking for themselves for a change? That would be a nice switch wouldn’t it? But I guess the only way to live up to “The next big thing is already here” is to steal ideas, patents and rumors and rush them to market first huh?

  • Bugs Bunnay

    Wouldn’t be surprised if this one has improper grounding, sending jillion of volts to it’s users. This next one will be… Electrifying!

    • samyg

      Yes, “sending jillion of volts” from a 3.7V battery makes complete sense. /s

      • Danuel Carr

        Ever hear of hyperbole?

      • Bugs Bunnay

        This is gonna be mean, but I’m willing to bet this person is gonna pronounce it wrong as well lmao

  • TheAvatarNice

    Isn’t it called a 3,5mm headphone jack instead of 3,55mm?

    • smtp25

      yeah sick of seeing that too

    • nonchalont

      It’s 3.5, instead of 3,5.

      • TheAvatarNice

        Yeah, you’re right. In Germany we use a comma as a decimal separator so I mixed it up. But it’s definitely not 3.55

      • XZavier

        In some countries it’s 3,5 instead of 3.5 as he has said below.

  • therealjjohnson

    So Samsung and Apple are virtually preparing the same phone

  • Blip dude

    Umm, why even stop producing the Note 7 entirely?? Just go back, check exactly what the issue is, and re-releasing it when it’s 200% ready??

    • TL;DR Samsung feels if it’s not a simple fix and it would be impossible to work on it when they are already well into construction of next year’s phone.

      If it would have turned out to be a battery issue Samsung could have kept their stock and simply replaced the batteries, repackaged them and shipped them out. However when it becomes an issue fundamental to the design it means they have to reengineer the phone and this late it becomes nearly impossible to do.

      This is overly simplified, but say Samsung send off their final plans to be built by the various manufacturers and that it takes 6 months for everything to be set up, tested, manufactured in bulk, assembled, packaged and ready for distribution. During that 6 months though Samsung is already working on their next phone. By the time we see the big announcements Samsung has already (on this timetable) been working on the next phone for the last 6 months. 6 months after we have the “new phones” Samsung is already gearing up to produce the next phone and so on.

      So assuming this is somewhat close to the timetable they are on, Samsung released the Note 7 in April which could mean that the team has already nearly finalized their designs for the Note 8 and is working with manufacturers to set up the factories for initial test production runs. Seeing as how we are 6 months after the launch of the Note 7 it is entirely possible that Samsung is already done (or very nearly there) with the design of the Note 8. At this point any attempts to fix the 7 would eat into time that needs to be spent on the 8’s manufacturing deadlines and even worse may not be ready for customers until right around or after the launch of the 8. And seeing as how the name is tarnished anyways, who would want to “risk” buying the 7 when “the next big thing is already here” 😛

    • Rowan09

      Because they have no idea what’s wrong. After the initial investigation it was stated the battery wasn’t the only cause, but they still gave out replacements knowing the phones were still dangerous.

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  • Jake Platt

    I’m not particularly fond of a phone with no bezels at all. It looks odd, at least from the prototype mockup images I’ve seen floating around over the years. It will be very interesting to see how these bezel free devices look.

    • Bangali

      Same..! I want the sides done, but the top and bottom should have at least a little bezel..would be hard to pull out the phone from your pocket without tapping something..!

  • Docservlet

    Why is this something that iDB should be worried about?