Apple meets with top podcast producers to hear their complaints

By , May 7, 2016

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Unhappy that Apple’s been neglecting iTunes podcasts for years now, top producers were invited to meet with Apple executives at the company’s Cupertino headquarters and voice their grievances, The New York Times reports.

It’s true that the iTunes podcasting hub’s remained virtually unchanged since its 2005 debut so it shouldn’t surprise Apple if producers think that this might have something to do with the fact that podcasts bring the Cupertino firm nothing in direct revenue.

While Apple essentially gave life to the podcasting industry, and it still dominates that sector, company officials made no promises to these producers. Small wonder some of them are now concerned that Apple may no longer care about podcasting.

Apple meets top podcasters

“Late last month, Apple brought seven leading podcast professionals to the company’s campus in Cupertino, California, to air their case to a room full of employees,” according to two people who were there.

“The company made no promises, the people said, but several pressing issues for podcasters were discussed in frank terms,” reads the article.

“After the presentations concluded, Eddy Cue, the executive at Apple who oversees software and services, arrived for a closed session with the company’s employees,” according to the attendees who spoke with the paper.

What are podcasters complaining about?

Some of the concerns that podcast producers told Apple about include:

  • Lack of stats—Apple does not provide podcasters with listener counts, listening duration and other crucial stats on their listeners. While podcasters know how many times their shows are downloaded, they don’t know how many people actually listened or how far those listeners might have gotten.
  • Difficult promotion—Podcasters are relegated to wooing a single Apple employee, Steve Wilson, for the best promotion, but most podcasters lack direct access to him. Worse, promotion is decided by a small team which fields pitches and conducts its own outreach.
  • Cumbersome social sharing—Advertising podcasts on social media channels takes multiple clicks.
  • No paid subscriptions—Podcasters can sell ads at rates ranging from $20 to $100 for every thousand listeners, but Apple currently does not allow podcasters to optionally charge people to download show episodes.
  • Problems with featured podcasts—The Top Podcast section within iTunes is the subject of constant speculation among podcasters who complain about inconsistencies in the way iTunes elects to promote content.

Apple should be concerned about these grievances. In these day and age, many amateur podcasters are going pro and big media organizations release new podcast episodes on a regular basis.

Opening up an opportunity for Google

Spotify and Google’s Play store both recently added a section dedicated to podcasts.

Knowing how Google can help podcast owners monetize their free shows with advertising, I think Apple should move swiftly to assuage their concerns unless it wants to see them give up on iTunes podcasts and seek other venues of podcast distribution and monetization.

As podcasters themselves said, these issue could open up an opportunity for a competitor. Apple’s share of podcast listeners currently sits around an estimated 65 percent, down from 70 percent a year ago when podcast listening on Android wasn’t a thing.

Apple: Podcasts hold a special place with us

Apple insists it remains committed to podcasting as it’s ever been.

“We have more people than ever focused on podcasting, including engineers, editors and programmers,” said Apple’s Eddy Cue. “Podcasts hold a special place with us at Apple.”

With more than 325,000 podcasts available on iTunes, Apple expects users to listen to ten billion episodes on Mac and Windows PCs, iOS devices and on the Apple TV by the end of the year.

Do you agree with the assessment that Apple no longer cares about podcasters?

Source: The New York Times

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  • Impreza

    Jeepers the podcasters aren’t given much love it seems considering the wide selection of subjects they provide for free. Maybe that’s what Eddy meant when he said they hold a special place at Apple as they generate no income per se.

  • Jerry

    I LOVE podcast. That’s where I get my weekly DJ music sets of fresh house music. Apple needs to step it up

    • Anonymous

      I forgot there is music in the podcast section. I always use it as my talk radio. But i think im gonna search for music on there again.