Phil Schiller Lance Ulanoff campus walk

Phil Schiller, 55, is a man of many superlatives, not least of which is the famous ‘can’t innovate anymore, my ass’ message to Apple haters during the unveiling of the radically revamped Mac Pro workstation.

And as a guy who oversees Apple’s marketing initiatives across the globe and acts as the steward of the company’s relationship with developers, it’s his nature and his job to promote collaboration between engineers, designers and executives.

In a rare and interesting interview with Mashable editor-at-large Lance Ulanoff (Mashable? This is the new Apple, get used to it), Schiller talks in detail about internal collaboration that makes radical products like the new 12-inch MacBook possible.

He and John Terns, who is Vice President of Mac and iPad engineering, also touch on a bunch of topics that are dear to the hearts of Apple’s many fans, including an upcoming flying saucer-shaped campus, hybrid computing devices, Apple’s design processes and much more.


I find it interesting that Schiller talks in detail about a combined speaker and Bluetooth/Wi-Fi antenna design inside the new 12-inch MacBook. The black strip along the back edge of the MacBook speakers is amusingly referred to as speaktenna.

No one has tried a design like this before, Schiller argued, saying it required intense collaboration between the company’s wireless teams, chip people, hardware folks, software engineers and industrial designers.

MacBook Speaktenna

“From the beginning, the Mac has been about Apple taking responsibility for the whole thing: hardware, software, how applications can work and, increasingly, Internet services. But that means something different today than it did 20 years ago,” he said.

“Today, those teams are not only integrated and designing something together, they’re actually thinking of features that could only exist because of that integration and solving problems that could only be solved because of that unique advantage.”

Phil Schiller Lance Ulanoff

Spaceship campus

The upcoming Campus 2 project is another great example of tight collaboration between the various teams, both internal and external.

The 2.8-million-square-foot circular building is massive, prompting one to wonder how the heck would teams seated on opposite sides of the circular structure collaborate efficiently.

Apple Campus 2 (Rendering 001, Retina-optimized)

Schiller responds that the design of Campus 2 is particularly focused on fostering collaboration. It begins with “large open spaces” between various sections and continues with hallways connecting the sections of the building’s ring and lots of open spaces.

“You can walk through the entire space, both on the inside and outside perimeter and go from section to section,” he said. “This is going to be the most incredible collaborative space that’s been created.”

Check out the latest drone footage of Campus 2 showing rapid construction progress as huge glass panels in the staging area continue to grow, with more than half of the ring completed just six months after it began rising.

Challenged on Apple’s secrecy when it comes to Asian companies that provide components, Schiller said Apple refuses to talk about suppliers because these parts have been “created so uniquely for Apple that implying it’s an off-the-shelf part like others may get would be really misleading.”

And this on the topic of Microsoft’s latest hybrid devices, the Surface Pro 4 and the Surface Book:

There certainly are more offerings today, more people trying to create a market, but based on all the data that I’ve been able to see, it is still incredibly small and niche and may not be growing to anything significant.

Time will tell.

I’m not going to spoil the whole article for you so click the source link below to read the whole thing, you won’t regret it. The 4,500-wordish write-up is worth saving for later if you don’t have the time to read through the whole thing today.

Source: Mashable

  • n0ahcruz3

    They might not admit it but i think MS recent moves making apple feel uneasy. Surface tablets have soared in sales.

    • Fanboy 

      You’re one funny guy (possibly girl)

      • Anmol Malhotra

        Lol. I think he is a guy. :p

      • Anonymous

        Siri got tails… So im gonna say girl! 😉

      • n0ahcruz3

        Im a guy, and what’s so funny about my post? Surface tablets have soared. Fanboys are a funny bunch easily get butt hurt when their beloved company is criticized. Just my opinion on apple being uneasy. So chill yo

      • Anonymous

        Darn i got it i got it wrong! Thanks alot siri!

    • I don’t think Apple is uneasy they are just watching and waiting.

      There certainly are more offerings today, more people
      trying to create a market, but based on all the data that I’ve been
      able to see, it is still incredibly small and niche and may not be
      growing to anything significant.

      Time will tell.

      I find this response very typical of Apple as a whole. They quite often
      wait and watch what’s happening in various different markets before
      coming out with something themselves (for example the Apple Watch came
      out sometime after various other smart watches but was better than any
      other smart watch).

      • n0ahcruz3

        “Uneasy” wasn’t the right term to use. MS releasing an all-in-one tablet that could replace a laptop and declining iPad sales got them convinced to make the iPad pro. It’s too pricey at $799 for 32gb only. I could get a Surface 3. But that’s just me we’ll see how it will perform when the Pro is released.

      • iPhoneWINS

        and its sucks and is boring

      • n0ahcruz3

        What sucks? Surface? Well it’s not meant to be media consumption device it’s more of a productivity device. I got my iphone for all things iOS media etc. and my Macbook for productivity. iPad = large iPod.

      • Anonymous

        I agree with you. You could even say apple did that with the iPhone.

    • Jamessmooth

      You’re right. I imagine apples response to surface book similar to the response everyone had to the original iPhone… “Oh s***”

  • iPhoneWINS

    lol @ perfection but the damn new apple TV unit can only connect one remote lol

  • Jamessmooth

    Lol @ Mashable. At least it isn’t buzzfeed.