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As I was watching Apple’s media event unfold this morning from halfway across the world, I kept my fingers crossed for a 4K-capable Apple TV. Thankfully, the much improved Apple TV is at long last official but it’s conspicuous that there is absolutely no word of 4K support whatsoever.

True, 9to5Mac did report last month that the new box would “lack 4K support for streaming video and AirPlay,” but apparently the hardware itself does support 4K capability, meaning Apple has purposefully disabled 4K on the new Apple TV,

Does that mean that the company is planning on enabling 4K with a software update int the future? This has been on my mind since the event has wrapped up and I’m hoping you could help me get to the bottom of this matter.

For starters, the Apple TV Tech Specs webpage clearly states the new box has HDMI 1.4 video output on the back. That’s quite an improvement over the third-generation model that has an older variant of the HDMI standard which supports up to Full HD 1080p video output.

Among other things, HDMI 1.4 supports 3D and increases the maximum resolution to 4K (4,096-by-2,160 pixels) at 24 Hz or Ultra HD (3,840-by-2,160 pixels) at 30 Hz. So the question arises: why would Apple give its revamped set-top box an enhanced video interface that can drive 4K television sets unless it has something planned for it?

One possible explanation: there might be an option in the settings to enable 4K output to let owners of Ultra HD TV sets or 4K displays admire the user interface in sharp 4K resolution.

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If such an option exists, will only the interface be rendered in 4K while third-party apps, streaming video and AirPlay get to run 1080p? Some people might argue that the new Apple TV’s A8 chip cannot handle 4K video.

However, developers of the excellent WALTR app that I recently reviewed have made an interesting discovery: the iPhone 6’s A8 chip is in fact powerful enough to render 4K video without missing a beat.

So, technically the new Apple TV hardware can handle 4K.

On the downside, it wouldn’t be the first time Apple disabled certain hardware features in software. If you ask me, it’s definitely no coincidence that Apple’s new streamer has 4K-capable HDMI 1.4 video output on the back.

While this could be a simple matter of future-proofing the device, something tells me 4K video output will be turned on via a software update as soon as iTunes starts carrying movies and television shows in 4K resolution.

Thoughts?

Does the new Apple TV hardware support 4K video output, do you think?

  • Hussain Alsanona

    I think so, because I was surprise as well when I’ve seen the Apple TV 4 support 1.4 HDMI. I guess we’ll see a 4K support in the future hopefully.

    • I think so too and for the higher price it better.. the Memory chips don’t cost that much lol.

      • John Malone

        memory chips actually cost a bit. I have seen to many tech sites just dont understand the difference between MegaBit and MegaByte. They quote OEM prices in Mbit and believes its megabytes.

        There is also a huge difference in price depending on low voltage and how fast chips are. (just look any SD card / SSD. ordinary/fast is 4 times difference)

        I understand that PC cllickers would love 16 megabyte more standard memory that support 20Mbyte read/write. But thats why people have dropped frames in their highend 4K phones when they record video. Simply no clue.

        Its just 3 years ago phones/tablets had around 20Mbyte read/write and “experts” screamed for USB3/thunderbolt or WiFi 1300Mbit AC. They never understood that their devices just could handle a 1/10 of that.

        Latest Samsungs/Iphones are about 300Mbyte/read/write. (Apple laptops 2000-1500 thanks to their own custom SSD controller. Same that will be used in iPadPro)

      • The R&D costs are high but the cost of materials are low and pretty much dollors and pennies different in price. Example A 256Gb micro SD card should cost around the the same as a 2GB micro SD card. Same size tech just different internals. Its just all about the money.

    • WhatMiddleClass

      Why? 4K streaming does not matter. It’s a pipe-dream sales gimmick. CNET found little visible improvement over 1080P when streaming 4K from Netflix. The same bodes for all other sources online. Unfortunately 4K needs 25 Mb/s at full quality and most streaming services and ISP’s would not be able to distribute that en masse. Netflix compresses the stream to 15 Mb/s and then uses blurring to fill in missing data. The average consumer will not be able to stream in 4K at least not in the next 5 years and that’s why it wasn’t included. In fact the streaming issues with 4K will likely be it’s downfall. They will not be able to convince people (except maybe enthusiasts) to start buying 4K Blu-rays.

      • Benny Lee

        Really? so then why nvidia made a android tv that does 4k and it has voice control and game controller to play all the games and on top of all that it’s 3 times faster and it has micro SD card upgrade, the new SanDisk 128 gb card is only 59 bucks on amazon and it has transfer rate of 48mb per second on the card
        Yes you cant see the 4k video on a 1080p tv ,but when you stream 4k video on a 4k tv you see a huge difference ,that is why why when you go to best buy when they have a 4k tv on demo they always us 4k demo to show people the difference, that is also the reason why people buy 4k tv .

      • Munna

        Have you ever heard of H.265? Current video delivery uses hardware based decoding of H.264. H.265 is an improvement over the previous standard which allows you to use half the bandwidth for the same resolution. So, for example, if the video is still 1080p only, it will require half the bandwidth for the same quality. So, by definition, a 4K video will be able to be delivered in roughly the same bandwidth that 1080p consumes!! So, the net net question is, can the App Device do H.265 decoding? If its software based, say good by to 4K streaming because its not going to be able to keep up. So, there’s got to be a chip that can decode H.265 for this whole 4K shebang to work.

      • cfbcfb

        Well, lets do that math again. 4k has about 4x the pixels of 1080p. H.265 compression is twice as good as H.264 for most content. So you’re going to see a rough doubling of bandwidth to stream 4k/h.265 vs 1080p/H.264. So you won’t get 4k in the same bandwidth but about double.

      • Munna

        Thats a fair point, my mistake. Coming from where I come, we used to encode 1080p content at 9Mb/s with very good level of quality (targeting native 1080p screens). You are right, that for the same level of quality for 4k under HEVC, I would need 18Mb/s

      • WhatMiddleClass

        That’s 18 MB/s of average speed (even at peak periods) for comfortable viewing. Most residential ISP’s cannot guarantee that at this point.

      • Steve

        Your nuts! you whack job!! 4k is a HUGE difference in quality! and no ones gonna buy Blu-ray players they will be out like CDs everything will be streaming, who wants to get up and stick a movie in a player when you can just press a button and start watching.

      • cfbcfb

        You might want to look up something called “internet caps” that are being instituted by Comcast and AT&T. They’re just fiddling with them now. 4k will blow through your cap pretty fast and you’ll be paying $100+/month for internet. I remember when my internet and loaded tv package was under $100. 4k sources are also a little pricey and probably will stay that way. There’s a little on amazon, netflix makes you pay extra, and ultraflix is charging $5-10 per 4k movie.

      • princehamlet

        You could not be more wrong, Ultraflix can stream lossless 4kvideo at around 6mb. Native 4k is always better, I think Terminator Genisis was filmed in 4k.
        All tvs will be 4k within a few years anyway.

      • WhatMiddleClass

        Hahaha…wait…Hahahaha…Thats pure marketing BS. It’s based on a company claim and actually according to them it’s “virtually lossless”. HEVC is the best compression method in use today and that requires 15Mb bandwidth for comfortable viewing. There is no way Ultraflix developed their own compression method that can more-than-half the best standard out there.

      • WhatMiddleClass

        Oh and movies being filmed in 4K has nothing to do with what I am saying. Yes they are even filmed in 8K. It doesn’t mean that will make it into homes. They’re filmed in 4K because in a theatre is where the increased quality really makes a difference. What I am saying is that even if everyone owned a 4K TV, the average household would not have sufficient sustainable bandwidth to support streaming even HEVC-encoded 4K content. Now of course ISP’s could start eventually supporting higher average speeds but this will likely come at an added premium. All of these factors make 4K streaming a niche market that will not be mainstream for at least another 4-5 years. At that point we’ll be at least 3 generations along on all TV’s and streaming devices. Hence why it’s not really important for AppleTV to have 4K streaming at this time.

  • Faisal

    My question is, does the new Apple TV stream MacBook without lagging

    • Vince Reedy

      this

    • Nads

      Yes i do my one quite often, works fine

    • Coatsey

      I have to say I find Airplay really unusable, I have iPhone 6, iPad Air 2, MacBook Retina, MacBook Pro and all simply do not stream well enough.

      • KonoChrome

        it’s your shit wifi, get a new one.

        Or perhaps there is too much interference where you live?

      • Coatsey

        I wish it was but given I use AirPort Extreme and its next to the TV, oh and everything else works like lightning, I think it’s all about AirPlay.

      • John Parry Jr

        take it away from your tv. Your tv interferes with the signal when it is that close. It is a horrible spot for your router

      • Benny Lee

        No its supposed to be WiFi direct

      • Benny Lee

        That is because apple tv is very slow.

    • Benny Lee

      You want to stop lagging ? Buy the nvidia android tv that sucker is 3 times faster go check it out on nvidia and it also support ios.

  • Eni

    Jailbreaking could fix that 😉

    • Except there’s never been a jailbreak for the Apple TV 3 let alone the new Apple TV…

      • Eni

        ATV 3 was a brick, the new one has various more reasons to be jailbreak ed so let’s hope it will 🙂

      • It still likely has a small attack surface though. There’s presumably no iTunes syncing / backup & restore which most jailbreaks use. My gut tells me a hardware exploit will need to be found the chances of which happening are minuscule…

      • Benny Lee

        Stop wasting your time and money and go buy a nvidia android tv that thing is 3 times faster and the hardware is 4k streaming already and it has voice control and you can also buy the controller if you want to play insane games, go to nvidia to check it out.

    • John Malone

      We should legally have right to Root on any device we own.
      But there is almost no chance for a jailbreak since all exploits usually is based on the 3G/LTE/CDMA chip. All those parts are gone on custom A5 in ATV3 and custom A8 in AppleTV4.

      BTW. Jailbreaking would enable the H265 decoder/encoder. Still no Intel chip that can realtime encode today (on mac). Skylake… where are you?

      And this is all solved if Apple finally dumps X86. Its much better to do custom parts and Apple can put on encoders/decoders on SoC like they did with A8 almost 2 years before Intel manages do add a H265 encoder.

      • Benny Lee

        All this legal right bs apple knows they can careless what you think as long as they make their money, why do you think they have so much money , it’s called we gotcha sucker LOL.

    • Benny Lee

      It’s sad how I always hear that people have to do all kind of illegal jail beak
      To get apple products to work right , why don’t they just give the consumers what they want?

  • Antonio

    As far as I know, Apple tv 4 (or any other device) requires HDMI 2.0 or 2.2 support to stream UHD content from the internet to the television, due to the copyright protection. Correct me if im wrong?

    • James G

      I think you are thinking of HDCP 2.0, not HDMI.

      • Dalton

        HDCP 2.2 is the standard for how two 4K UHD devices authenticate as to each other legit. If either device fails to give a valid response in 15ms, it cuts the connection. (may be off a little on the time ;P)
        Streaming content right to the TV (I.e built in Netflix app to the TV) doesn’t need HDCP 2.2 as it doesn’t travel across any cables

    • Dalton

      HDMI is just a data cable basically. HDMI 1.4 handles “4K” but not 4K @ 60FPS.. Hence HDMI 2.0 = 18.0gb/s transfer, well enough for 4K @ 60FPS. HDCP is just a DRM standard which is only available on HDMI 2.0.
      Basically not all HDMI 2.0 ports support HDCP 2.2… But ALL HDCP 2.2 compatible ports are HDMI 2.0

      • Benny Lee

        All this technical logic is true if the hardware of the apple tv support it not to mention the current hardware is already too slow for 4k streaming if there hardware in the unit was faster like the nvidia android tv it would probably do it, but apple knows this bs so they can release another version so they can suck you dry , go take a look at the nvidia android tv that thing is 3 times faster then apple tv and it has 4k support already.

  • n0ahcruz3

    The 6s and 6sP has 2gb of ram according to BGR.

  • Dalton

    It’s because of the 1.4 HDMI. It requires HDMI 2.0 with HDCP 2.2 (copywright standard set for 4K content.) I was mad at first until reading the 1.4 HDMI. I’m glad they disabled it. But it begs the question, why not use the new HDMI 2.0….

    • James G

      No Ultra HD TV’s support HDMI 2.0 yet, to my knowledge. The HDMI 2.0 standard was just introduced a few months ago

      • Dalton

        no… HDCP 2.2 was released months ago. HDMI 2.0 been out for awhile. But actually some do already. I just bought a 55″ Curved Samsung UN55J6700 which features 4 HDMI 2.0 ports all of which are HDCP 2.2 certified.

      • Daniel Francis

        Also, there are now HDR TV’s that support HDMI 2.0a, which is needed to handle HDR UHD transfers, was hoping the new apple TV would get on board HDR streaming. It looks much better and more discernible to me than the the extra resolution gained from 4k, especially on smaller TV’s

  • Martynet

    HDMI 1.x is not true 4K. You need HDMI 2 to fully enjoy 4K in reasonable framerate.

    • James G

      You can do 30fps in 4K with HDMI 1.4.

      HDMI 2.0 will support 60fps 4K content and also enable true 3D in 4K but TV’s that can support this aren’t for sale yet.

  • Matt

    They could just enable it for airplay to stream 4K recorded video from the iphone, no copyright problems there.

  • Yusuf Taiyoob

    HDMI 1.4 is so yesterday. Apple shoud’ve include HDMI 2.0 that support 4k @ 60Hz not useless 4K @ 30Hz with HDMI 1.4

  • Bugs Bunnay

    I wouldn’t get my hopes up mr zibreg.

  • Brian Hymes

    Personally, I think this is something Apple did on purpose, not including HDMI 2.0 support so they can sit back and see how the sales do with the upgraded box. Then next year, they’ll do a refresh with HDMI 2.0 support and everyone that wants 4k, will have to upgrade. It’s not like this is something new. Apple, purposely leaves out hardware upgrades to their lineup all the time, so people will upgrade when the new product is released. Business 101. Sucks for the customers yet Apple, still makes it rain.

  • Eikast

    Not HDMI 2.0 therefore it will never support 4K. As others have said, it can’t stream due to copyright reasons, and also that 24/30Hz will be crappy. Imagine air playing a 4K video from your phone running at 24/30FPS.

    At least I have my Nvidia Shield TV. I’m so glad that I purchased it. Remote is better too. Plus I can install Kodi on it. Along with third party air play support (non drm), plus chrome cast.

    • James G

      4K video you take from an iPhone 6s is going to be 30fps anyway. It won’t shoot 60fps 4K video.

      • Eikast

        Good point. Still doubt that they’ll enable 4K. They’ll probably save 4K for the next version in 2017 -_-. It’ll take them some time for them to start selling 4K movies vis itunes

      • Vittorio D’Antuono

        *2016. 2017 would be ridiculous. Even though they’ve released a new Apple TV pretty much once every two years, I can’t imagine Apple to wait so long to introduce 4K. It will probably the main feature of the next 4th gen Rev A or 5th gen Apple TV, coming within a year, with HDMI 2.0.

      • Eikast

        There’s no way that Apple will introduce a new Apple TV next year. The last Apple TV was released March 2012, this one was October 2015 (more than 3 years).

        If they didn’t release it now then that means that they’ll be waiting until iTunes offers 4K content. 4K Blu Ray players aren’t even out yet, they’ll be coming out in 2016, so it makes sense for Sept 2017.

      • Vittorio D’Antuono

        That’s obvious I thought of it my self, no need to explain me. But considering that tvOS was introduced, with new interface and Apps support, that could mean that version will get released more often, even once every 1 or 2 years. 3 is impossible. Apple already made a huge mistake not hurrying up in upgrading its set top box, they won’t again. Maybe they won’t release it in Sept 2016 but surely by June – September 2017. UHD Blurays are coming out alongside UHD BluRay Players by the end of this year. 2016 will be the year 4K gets heavily mainstream, that’s why Apple should’ve added 4K support to the 4th gen Apple TV. Maybe the could via tvOS update as the new Apple TV has HDMI 1.4
        And if they don’t they should definitely release a revised version of the 4th gen Apple TV by the end of 2016, otherwise they’ll be out of the circle.

      • Eikast

        They won’t release a software update because you need to have HDMI 2.0 and something else for the copyright protection for streaming 4K content. If anything then they could release and update to just support 4K video from your iPhone (4k recorded content). It’s just stupid of them to not support 4K content. I mean they’re pushing retina, high pixels, so why don’t they support 4K -_-

      • Vittorio D’Antuono

        Right what I thought at first while watching the event. That’s why I feel disappointed about this. Yeah I know HDCP 2.2 is a standard included into HDMI 2.0 so HDMI 1.4 is probably not enough to stream any 4K content. I’m sure though, Apple is in talks with content providers to start selling / renting and streaming 4K contents as soon as possible. And they’ll most likely release an upgraded Apple TV with HDMI 2.0 and everything else hopefully in 18 – 24 months from now. But it’s still a lot of time to wait.

  • Dante Arellano

    Nah every body nows the new atv sucks it does looks like old shitte

  • Dante Arellano

    4k theresnt content jet who fuckking needs 4k

    • BetelgeuseBoom

      Ultraflix – look it up

  • James G

    It clearly says 1080p on the tech specs page. If it was 4K, they’d have said so and bragged about it.

    With tvOS, though, if it follows an annual release cycle like iOS, Mac OS, and watchOS, it’s possible we’ll see hardware upgrades more regularly.

    • Vittorio D’Antuono

      tvOS will certainly be released once a year just like all the other OSs Apple has. I don’t know though, if 4K will be added with tvOS 2 or we’ll need to wait until the next Apple TV (coming next year hopefully) launching with tvOS 2.

  • Vince Reedy

    that

  • ReanimationXP

    If you walked away confused it wasn’t because of the presentation.

  • M_Hawke

    Well, if the new iPhone can do video in 4k, it would stand to reason that the ATV would support that, wouldn’t it, so that iPhone 6s owners could stream their videos to the ATV?

  • Vittorio D’Antuono

    Finally! Someone covered this topic. I was really disappointed as well when I noticed that no words on 4K support were spoken. Yeah HDMI 1.4 totally supports 2160p @ 24Hz and 30Hz so it wouldn’t make sense if they didn’t want the new Apple TV to run in 4K. Of course, even enabling this important feature, maybe via tvOS 1 (the first version of its proprietary OS), won’t make sense until proper amount of content is provided. Now that Apple has also opened the Apple TV to the World of Apps, I can totally see apps such as Netflix, Hulu, YouTube and maybe even Amazon Video being revamped and updated to support native 4K. For example on the 3rd gen Apple TV, there is YouTube but it’s not fair to call it an app. It doesn’t support 4K of course and it’s unlike the official YouTube apps found on PS3s, PS4s and nowadays Smart TVs, so I’m assuming they’ll bring the very same, actual app to the Apple TV. And of course 4K movies and TV Shows on the iTunes Store is key. Well it’s good to know Apple cared about all the owners of 4K TVs out there, including me.This would make the Apple TV definitely future-proof.

  • Scott McCarthy

    It’s good to hear that it’s at least capable of 4K output, but I’m still surprised they didn’t go the whole way and put in an HDMI 2.0 port. They are currently limited to 30Hz. BT in the UK have recently launched their 4K service, and they deliver their UHD channel at 50Hz (which looks stunning).

  • karol

    apple tv doesn’t mirror stuff through internet, so you could have 600Gbit and it still doesn’t matter:)

  • Xee

    If I had my own movie files (mp4) on a hardrive. What are the options to play them via ATV4? I know airplay is one but are there any others ways? Like can ATV4 see a shared network directory etc?

    • Cy

      Regarding external hard drives, if it is like the previous versions yes but they have to be seen by ATV through a machine running iTunes (and open and running which makes me crazy since I use a macbook pro).

      I guess now that there is an App store, there is the potential for Apple to allow apps like Plex to be available.

  • Cy

    So here is my theory:

    It is very Apple to have a roadmap, and the easiest way to do that is through feature creeping.

    They have already given complete access to their entire iTunes music catalog via a subscription service which only allows access to stream music.

    They are now taking the Apple TV out of “hobby” status, and given the success of Apple Music would only make sense to add a subscription service around the huge movie catalogue they already have.

    My theory is they are locking out 4K video output so they alone (at a later date) will have the ability to provide exclusive 4K content through iTunes subscriptions.

  • blu

    If they were planning on supporting 4k, they would have used a faster wired connection. This only has 10/100 ethernet connection.
    Yes the wireless n and ac standards are fast, but I (and I am sure many others) like wired.

  • Cy

    So here is my theory:

    It is very Apple to have a roadmap, and the easiest way to do that is through feature creeping.

    They have already given complete access to their entire iTunes music catalog via a subscription service which only allows access to stream music.

    They are now taking the Apple TV out of “hobby” status, and given the success of Apple Music would only make sense to add a subscription service around the huge movie catalogue they already have.

    My theory is they are locking out 4K video output so they alone (at a later date) will have the ability to provide exclusive 4K content through iTunes subscriptions.

  • Rasmus Stenholt

    It would not be the first time for them to disable a hardware funktion via software. Remember the iPod touch? That got Bluetooth via a software update, so the possibility is still there! 😀

  • LarryS

    We should be clear that the current standard is HDMI 2.0 to handle 60 frames per second 4K. TVs are made with HDMI 2.0 so why not connect to them if that is the current high end?. Why not Apple TV with ThunderBolt 3, with USB 3C standard connectors? That solves lots of possible options for those who would connect content from computers. Apple is now producing obsolete items as “new”.

  • Coatsey

    I have to say I buy most new Apple products, as well as other leading brands, I love my Sony Z3 Compact, but whilst I have the older Apple TV’s I won’t be upgrading until 4K.

    That said I may not upgrade at all as I find my Samsung Smart TV very good, I can stream 4k to it, watch Netflix and various other things. Currently it’s just not compelling enough, 4K would have sealed it, but it’s not so I find myself standardising on smart TV technology.

    I understand this is an enhance to the existing Apple TV but I feel Apple may need to evolve this quicker if it is to succeed. I say this because if someone like me is buying this might be a sign given I feel I fit squarely in the sights of this type of product.

    Slightly off topic but I feel the same about the iPad Pro but the 6S phone are worthy of an upgrade from the 6.

  • Coatsey

    BBC iPlayer and other videos mirrored are bad, streaming an iPad using Chromecast works better than directly to Apple TV.

    • John Malone

      2 different things. Chromecast captures the original stream from internet. Airplay encodes the computers picture/sound and send it. Use any iTunes compatible media and you will not have a problem since the media is not encoded and just streamed like Chromecast.

  • Bytowner

    It’s weird. The iPhone 6S supports 4K video recording and you can now edit it right on the phone and yet the new Apple TV won’t support it? Why bother?

  • John Malone

    People dont understand the problem.
    A8 SoC was the first SoC that had H265 decoding AND encoding.

    Intel lastest CPU “Skylake” is the only Intel with H265 encoding. Its possible to make Skylake Intels stream 4K to AppleTV.

    The other problem is that both encoding picture/sound in realtime AND output picture on the computer is to much for Intels crappy graphic cards. I have used Airplay for 4 years without problem. But that was because my macs had dGPU. Apple uses the Intel graphics to real time encode the picture in H264 without performance loss.

    Using a mac without dGPU makes it almost impossible even at 1080P. Decoding a 1080P MKV file and real time encode it: get dropped frames. Converting files to H264 solves this, but the elegance with Airplay was that I could do anything on my mac and stream it without performance lag.

    When Apple releases Intels with H265 encoding Apple could enable this feature in AppleTV. An educated guess is next years OS.

    (And this is all Intels fault: Technically I cant even connect a mac today to a 4K screen and get 60hz. Because picture signal is routed thru intels GPU even if I have a dGP)

    BTW. 90%+ of 4K TVs dont support chroma 4:4:4.
    Even if AppleTV had HDMI2 most TVs cant accept uncompressed picture. Google some Chroma 4:2:2 or 4:2:0 pictures. Text for example are blurry.

    And this is today’s problem. There is no real 4K standard. 90%+ of today’s TVs are not compatible with Ultra blurays. The industry “solves” this by banning companies writing what HDMI revision they support. Today everything in 4K is more or less a scam depending on consumers that just chase big numbers and don’t understand how things work.

    • 9to5Slavery

      I had a hard time understanding this, would a jailbreak for apple tv 4 enable it to render 4k out and receive in?

  • John Malone

    Forget it: Its impossible. Intel graphics cant both encode the picture and write the picture on the screen. Airplay works flawlessly with all macs with dGPU.
    Only way to get no dropped frames is to re encode the movies to H264 that is accelerated by OSX. Use handbreak for it.

    Blame Intel and their crap.

    • Benny Lee

      That is why you need the nvidia android tv it’s 3 times faster then apple tv and it supports 4k and ios

      • 9to5Slavery

        loooool

  • Benny Lee

    Why wait the new Android tv by nvidia is 3 times faster then apple tv and it stream 4k already thru amazon and Netflix and who ever produced 4k streaming also it has voice comand , and it has video controller to play all the best game posible , I don’t understand why apple is always
    Behind its like they just craw out of the cave LOL.

    • 9to5Slavery

      you advertise so much

      • Ben Lee

        Don’t feel bad apple will catch up eventually lol…..