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KGI Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo, the most reliable Apple analyst out there, wrote in a note to clients Monday that Apple’s 2016 iPhone—call it an ‘iPhone 7’ if you will—will be even thinner than the current iPhone 6.

According to the report, a copy of which was provided to AppleInsider, the iPhone 7 should be just as thin as the recently released sixth-generation iPod touch and roughly in line with the iPad Air 2.

Here’s a quick look at the thickness of current-generation iOS device:

  • iPod touch 6th generation — 0.24 inch (6.1 mm)
  • iPad Air 2 — 0.24 inch (6.1 mm)
  • iPhone 6 — 0.27 inch (6.9 mm)
  • iPhone 6 plus — 0.28 inch (7.1 mm)

The iPhone 7 should have a thickness of somewhere between 6.0mm and 6.5mm, as per Kuo. Assuming he’s right, Apple is likely to outfit the iPhone 7 with a display featuring in-cell assembly process found on all iPhones from the iPhone 5 onward, which fuses touchscreen sensors into the LCD itself.

That would be in contrast to speculative supply chain reports which have suggested that 2016 iPhones will switch back to using the glass-on-glass panel technology that Apple was using on the original iPhone, iPhone 3G, iPhone 3GS and iPhone 4.

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Glass-on-glass substrates are thinner than in-cell displays, which eliminate a layer. On the other hand, glass-on-glass panels could potentially allow for bezel-free iPhones with ultra high-resolution screens and better multitouch performance at screen edges.

Still, next year’s iPhones won’t have a display featuring a resolution of 4K or higher. While Apple would like to switch to glass-on-glass technology for Force Touch sensing, such a move likely won’t happen for a few years.

Kuo also claims that the iPhone 7 will have a similar Force Touch technology like the upcoming iPhone 6s and iPhone 6s Plus refresh because Apple and its suppliers are understood to have heavily invested in the technology.

iPhone 7 concept by 3D designer Yasser Farahi.

Source: AppleInsider

  • Manor

    WHY???
    Just make it thicker and put a larger battery in it!

    • Erick Reyes

      Apple doesn’t need a large battery in their devices. The optimizations Apple makes to their OS and devices is just amazing, and makes small batteries last longer

      • Manuel Molina

        Says the millions of people who hug the outlets like their family every time they phone drops to 20 %. This year pasted was the first good battery year for iPhones. That wasn’t because of iOS, it was because of bigger batteries.

      • Mr_Coldharbour

        I concur and anyone who’s reasonable will as well. Relatively better battery performance in the current iPhones was due to the larger form factors where larger capacity batteries were put in. Similarly when Apple released the iPhone 4, one of the major talking points of that phone was the larger battery, and people boasted about the iPhone 4 battery and I saw it myself, it had incredible stamina! First the iPhone 4 and then the 6 and 6 Plus, they got relatively better battery performance because of the major bump in battery capacity. iOS software optimisations be damned, those improvements, if any, are negligible. Hardware improvements trumps any software optimisations in the medium to long term.

      • Manuel Molina

        Exactly. The 4 was a huge upgrade from the 3 and 3G. The 4S was horrible, this mostly due to Siri and iOS 5. The 5 and 5s saw improvements, but nothing bigger than 6 and 6 plus. But with each phone, each MAH went up. It was small but battery was increased to uphold and maintain the newer features each iOS had. The fact is, iOS and the continuous upgrades of their A chips require more and more battery. iOS has not been a software with optimization until iOS 9. And iOS 9 only does what we normally do: stop fetching mail, turn blue-tooth and wifi off, etc.

      • Erick Reyes

        Well, I just said that based on my experience with my iPhone 6. I start my day at 7AM and it ends at 5PM with 30%-50% of battery left still and I am a heavy user.I’m always texting, or just catching up with tech news. I just thought my experience will be the same as others, as I have seen in Google+.

      • Manuel Molina

        I don’t doubt nor believe you’re wrong about your experiences. I just see that everyone’s experiences are going to be different based on so many factors. Like, if I’m always in a dim area, I’m gonna have my screen all the way up. Others might not. If I’m in a bad area of service, my phone uses more battery to maintain the 1 bar 2 bar service on LTE or 4G. Stuff of this nature. I think the 6 and 6 Plus had great battery life, but I’ve noticed after my year of usage, it’s gone down heavily and I haven’t hit my 300 cycles at 80 battery retention rate.

      • smtp25

        Thats android hype I think. I have a Galaxy S4 when it hits 15% it complains at 5% its barely useable it disables camera and forces screen to lowest brightness. On my old IP4S you could use that fully down to the last %. Even at 20% I wouldnt normally worry about it as it kep going.

      • Manuel Molina

        That I hate. My note 2 would dim the light completely and tells you that you can’t turn it up. I could be wrong, but my note 2 prevented me from getting out of power saving mode once 10 percent hit.

      • Stefano

        guy, every phone i had, from nokia, nextel, 8525 windows mobile, and iPhone 1st gen to current, I HAVE ALWAYS CHARGED more than once daily. nobody is wall hugging like the commercials joke about.

      • Manuel Molina

        I’m sorry, but no one believes that you had a iPhone 1ST gen lasting throughout the whole day. The battery on the 1St gen was straight shit.

      • Stefano

        maybe you want to read my comment one more gain.

      • Manuel Molina

        I did – epic failure on my end.

      • Stefano

        at least we came to a consensus LOL

      • Manuel Molina

        Agree.

      • WonkieInc

        I leave home at 7am and by the time I get to work at 8, my battery is completely flat and turned off already.

        GG iPhone.

      • karol

        2 days of battery life is still pretty shitty… the thing is slim enough already, battery on the other hand…. there is still room for improvement… plenty…

      • Manuel Molina

        You get two days of battery life? There goes to wishing I get a day in with light use. these days. I have a plus and it went from a day of use to barely getting me through the day, all in one year since I had the phone at the end of Sept. last year.

      • karol

        I have plus too…. but all energy consuming features are off, and maybe you’re right 2 days without charging is a rare thing… I have chargers at work and home and whenever I get a chance to plug it in I do it.

      • Manuel Molina

        I have no push notifications but calls and text messages. All energy consuming features are off. I even use airplane mode with wifi on to do my texting and calls. It saves a hella amount of battery life. Those are the days I get 40 percent and through my days. They are rare though.

      • 5723alex .

        I too get 2 days of battery with iPhone 6. GPS and BT+BTLE are always on (connected to Pebble smartwatch with 2 apps running in the background 24/7), and heavy usage of browsing, emails, messages….

      • WonkieInc

        I get under an hour battery life from my iPhone… a day would be magical.

      • Guy

        Pass me whatever your smoking

      • mickey

        Bigger battery and screen has been the most requested upgrades for years for apple users. I’m sure it does last a work day for you but you are not a heavy user. The plus is the first time I’ve felt like my battery was enough beside android phones that have similar capacities. Sure apple does a good job at optimizations but to be honest Google are just as good if not better considering the power and high resolution android phones are powering now. “All day” battery life on a 720p screen is not that impressive in late 2015.

    • Rowan09

      Thicker does not mean thicker battery. Have you ever looked inside an iPhone before? The iPhone 4 is thicker and the battery is not thicker, etc.

      • rockdude094

        The dimensions are also smaller in comparison

      • Rowan09

        True, but the argument was about making a thicker phone means a thicker battery which is just false. The size of the phone now makes the battery bigger which is why (one of the reasons) Apple increased the phone size to fix the battery problem.

    • Cameron

      Apple will never make a phone thicker just to improve battery life, its way too simple, it not actually any technological breakthrough and therefore, not cool. If battery life will ever improve it will be done while being thinner or as thin as before. If you dont care about thickness, get a battery case, theres hardly any difference then. So far with every new iteration, battery life slightly improves and thickness slightly decreases. Thats good enough.

      • Manuel Molina

        Battery cases don’t improve battery, they shorten it. Let’s say as an example that I have a phone that goes from 100 to 0 in 5 hours all the time. This is 100% every day. If I charge that phone up 3 times in 1 day to get me through it, my iPhone won’t last past a year because of battery cycles and the battery retaining a charge. That’s why battery chargers aren’t the greatest. It should be needed as a once in awhile thing. Not as everyday usage.

      • WonkieInc

        Well, you drain the battery case first, and then start draining the iPhone internal battery. It’s not really an additional battery cycle, it’s the same as using it while plugged in to a wall socket at 100%.

      • Manuel Molina

        The battery case charges the phone. You’re using the battery case to charge the internal battery of the iPhone just as if you were charging it through a normal USB outlet by computer or wall. It’s still a cycle

      • WonkieInc

        The designed use of a battery case though is to use it all the time, from 100%. So that way it drains the case first before using any power from the internal battery at all

      • Manuel Molina

        Apple’s website says to use the phone the first day and drain it to zero, wait 5 to 30 mins, then 100 the device. Then use as as. Point is that you’re still running through cycles after a lot of charges to your device. And no one wants to be always charging their phones.

    • rockdude094

      The battery is not the only issue, its the efficiency of the hardware that actually makes a difference as well. I would pick a thinner device over a larger device any day

  • therealjjohnson

    I wonder why it seems that the market thinks thinner is better.

  • Anthony Lara

    I guess battery life isn’t worth shit to Apple.

    • Erick Reyes

      Well, have you seen how well the small batteries in the 6/6+ perform because Apple optimized the system? I don’t see how a thin phone could cause trouble.

      • Anthony Lara

        No I have not seen how well their batteries perform. After all I am an owner of an iPhone 6 and the battery life is mediocre at best. Battery life has always been an iPhone owners biggest woe.

      • Rowan09

        Nope not the 6+.

      • Blip dude

        Hah!! The 6+ is just as bad, Jailbreak or not!! I will admit, coming from the 6 I did see an improvement but it’s still just as bad.

      • Nathan

        Jailbreaking doesn’t drain battery.

      • Blip dude

        Oh, my bad, I guess I should have better phrased it. You are correct, the Jailbreak itself does not worsen battery (yup, it’s made no difference to the battery in my 6+), but the second I add more than 3 tweaks and a few themes and it begins to get worse. I’ll admit that it has gotten better since upgrading to the 5, but even if I don’t use it for half a day, I’ll still go home with one 15-20% with only 5-7 hours of actual usage. It’s only an hour to 2 difference from the 5 so I definitely wouldn’t call it a “huge” improvement.

      • besrate hogsa

        yes it does

        It depends on what kind of tweaks you are using

        – multitasking tweaks

        – tweaks that helps with back grounding apps

      • Rowan09

        I own the 6+ and I go to work from 5Am and get back at 5PM with 60% left (this includes 4 hours of watching videos heading to and back from work). It has a 3000mAH battery so I don’t know what you’re complaining about.

      • Mr_Coldharbour

        Software optimisations are important of course, though in the medium to long term, hardware improvements trumps the software side. It’s like saying Apple can keep the exact same battery capacity as the iPhone 5 and keep making the screens larger and larger, CPUs faster, more RAM, etc. but no need for a larger battery because iOS software does all the necessary optimisations. The thing won’t last 3hrs if it is used the way it was intended. At some point, a significant battery bump is needed and will always be needed in the long run.

    • Rowan09

      How would you come to that conclusion when they do everything especially in IOS 9 to reserve battery life? Every manufacturer makes phone thinner not thicker.

  • TJ

    Here we go again, people moaning about wanting a bigger battery. What you actually need is a more efficient processor, something that Apple pushes every year and that increases battery life.

    A bigger battery would mean an increasingly thicker phone which would inevitably lead to some wasted space on the inside. Plus a larger battery means longer recharge times.

    • Anthony Lara

      You guys can back Apple all you want at the end of the day the iPhone 6 has mediocre battery life across all real life test. The 6 plus obviously has great battery life due to it having a much larger battery. There is modern battery technology being worked on which is great maybe we can experience it on the iPhone 22S. Also that “bigger battery means more charge time” is bs look at apples competitors. I’ve been with Apple since the iPhone 3G and it’s sad that we’ve experienced miniscule upgrades to the battery life department.

      • TJ

        Sorry, I disagree. I can easily get two days out of my iPhone 6 and that’s with my Apple Watch connected all day too. Bigger battery wouldn’t solve anything, people would still cry out for more.

      • Mike

        iPhone batteries suck. I have the iPhone 5s and it goes from 100 to 50 in like 2 hours on heavy use. iPhone batteries are trash because they don’t even include quick charge which would be very useful with a bigger battery.

      • Rowan09

        The iPhone 5s battery does suck especially since the 6 and 6+ is out, but you’re making it seem as if an iphone equals the 5s only. Quick charge is a joke I own a S5 active which has the quick charge feature and nothing about it charges any quicker than my iPhone and I’m using an iPad charger.

      • Alberto Espinal

        TJ i think Antony Lara is just trolling, he ain’t got no iPhone

    • Manuel Molina

      You do realize Apple puts slightly bigger batteries or more powerful MAh batteries in their phones each year? Why? Because each iOS takes more battery life.

    • Mr_Coldharbour

      Larger battery does not = longer charging time. Look at the iPad charger on an iPhone, it charges an iPhone noticeably faster than the regular iPhone charger. Apple can improve upon the current iPhone chargers which haven’t changed in years. That ought to improve battery charging time.

      • TJ

        Larger battery = longer charge time, simple physics. I’m pretty sure if I had an iPhone 6 with a 1810mAh battery in it and one with a 2500mAh battery the latter would take longer to charge.

      • Mr_Coldharbour

        As I said before, should Apple choose to improve upon their already stagnant and long-in-the-tooth iPhone chargers (which haven’t seen an improvement in years) where they can do things like up the amperage or voltage output to allow for electrical currents to travel to the phone at a faster rate, this should help in making faster charging a reality.

      • Manuel Molina

        It depends. I think you’re right but to some degree. My 6 Plus takes longer to charge with the small brick outlet Apple gave me when I got the device. It actually takes forever to hit 100 from 5. When I use an iPad charger (the bigger brick) the device chargers fast and almost fast then the 6 or 5S does. In short, bigger battery, longer charges unless the right output outage going to the device.

      • Rowan09

        I use the iPad charger for my phones because the small charger would take forever to charge my 6+.

  • José Gabriel Rivera Velázquez

    If you carried your Macbook around all day and used it every 5 seconds, it would be stupid of you to think that 1) you don’t need to bring something to charge your battery and 2) that the battery sucks. Stop complaining about battery life and either go to a different phone maker (and complain about that phone yet again) or get something to charge your phone on the go (external battery or battery case).

    • Anthony Lara

      Thanks Jose I didn’t know the solution to my problem was to run and go to another phone maker or carry an external battery. I should have known.

      • José Gabriel Rivera Velázquez

        You are welcome, Anthony. I’m sorry that I couldn’t have been there before to illuminate you with my knowledge.

      • Anthony Lara

        I understand why you couldn’t have been there before my iPhone can sometimes die on me for no reason but I definitely will add on the heaviest battery case I can find.

      • José Gabriel Rivera Velázquez

        I’m being serious now. What device do you have and have you done anything for your battery problem? I would drain the battery and then charge it to 100%.

    • Rowan09

      The problem is everyone has the same issues. The Edge has a battery life that’s shorter than the S5 and the Note 5 has a shorter battery life than the Note 4. Battery tech needs to advance and this is the real issue. Apple did some things though in IOS 9 that will help significantly with battery life especially the battery saving mode.

      • José Gabriel Rivera Velázquez

        The real improvement will be once batteries themselves are better than they are now. Making something that is not optimal (in this era) bigger and bigger is not the solution that we need.

      • Mr_Coldharbour

        With the way I set up my iPhone settings, it’s exactly equal to that of Low Battery Mode or Power Reserve Mode of iOS 9, if not more conservative. Doubt that feature will help me or anyone else who sets their phone in that manner.

      • Rowan09

        Have you used the feature at all?

      • Mr_Coldharbour

        I have on my test iPhone 4S (which ran iOS 9 beta) but not on my daily driver (which still runs 8.4). As I said, this feature does exactly what I do when I set up my device (disable parallax effect, animations, transparency, background refresh, fetching, etc.) I already do that by default. So unless this feature also (possibly) downclocks the CPU, I don’t see what more this can do for those who already have these options set, is what I’m saying.

  • Guy

    Apple a found a way to put the Apple watch battery in iPhone 7.

  • Jason Baroni

    If they are really working to get this thin with the 7, so why couldn’t they develop a 6s, that is rumored to be thicker due to the force touch technology, with the same thickness of the 6?

  • n0ahcruz3

    In others news/rumors, iphone 6s will have a resolution bump from 329 to 488.

  • hkgsulphate

    bend gate 2.0

  • Marcus

    It would be nice if there were several options for the next iPhone. iPhone 6s, iPhone 6s Air (iPod Touch thin), and iPhone 6s Pro.

  • 5723alex .

    I want Macbook fatness with 10,000 mAh battery

  • rockdude094

    Just waiting for the days when super capacitors will replace the old-school lithium-ion batteries we use today

  • besrate hogsa

    I will take iPhone 7 over the stupid iPhone 6s even if it is thinner

  • KaM

    So thin its bendable.

  • Dante Arellano

    New iphone 6+ has alots of improvements but the software still pushing to slow

  • momerathe

    will no one stop the madness?!

  • Donovan

    “Glass-on-glass substrates are thinner than in-cell displays, which eliminate a layer”

    Isn’t glass-on-glass thicker? I guess we have a typo 🙂