Apple Store West Lake China iPhone 6 in hand

Revered gadget leaker Steve Hemmerstoffer recently published a photo of claimed iPhone 6s packaging which suggests that Apple’s upcoming iPhones will continue to offer just sixteen gigabytes of storage in baseline models.

A new report Wednesday by 9to5Mac’s well-connected Mark Gurman reaffirms claims that Apple won’t be ditching the 16-gigabyte tier.

Moreover, the iPhone 6s and iPhone 6s Plus should have unchanged on-contract pricing as the 2014 models: $199/$299/$399 for the 16/64/128GB iPhone 6s and $299/$399/$499 for the 16/64/128GB iPhone 6s Plus.

Moreover, the report reiterates earlier rumors that the new phones will use a stronger 7000 Series aluminum used for the Apple Watch Sport chassis, as opposed to the current iPhone 6’s 6000 Series aluminum body.

Author Mark Gurman gleaned from sources that a few new Apple Watch Sport band colors will launch during Apple’s media presentation next Wednesday, September 9.

“The new colors could be the same as or similar to the wider variety of sport bands Apple’s Chief Design Officer Jony Ive showed to small audiences at private Apple Watch events earlier this year,” Gurman speculates.

Baseline iPhone 6s and iPhone 6s Plus models with sixteen gigabytes of storage will no doubt dissapoint fans who have been holding their breath for thirty-two gigabytes as a new baseline tier.

Although iOS 9 includes so-called App Thinning technologies that optimize app binaries to a user’s target device and support on-demand downloading of in-app content (i.e. additional level in games) via the App Store, sixteen gigabytes won’t be enough to store 4K footage that the new iPhones’ improved back shooter is thought to support.

As for the pricing, I’ll be watching with great intent as Tim Cook puts up the pricing slide because major U.S. carriers like AT&T, Verizon, Sprint and T-Mobile have either killed, or will soon ditch subsidized smartphones in favor of selling devices at full prices through zero-interest monthly installments.

Source: 9to5Mac

  • (JailbreakQA) King Shoot

    Seriously? 16GB? Why does Apple feel the need to have a 16GB iPhone. 16GB is not enough. I have a 16GB 5S, and I ran out of storage after installing 10 apps and games. With no aditional music, videos or photos.

    Apple should really dump the 16GB option from all iOS devices and make 32GB the base capacity. Or at least include some kind of storage expansion.

    • Jon K

      Depends what you install and what you use it for. For soccer mom who installs a few apps and take pics of her kids 16GB is perfectly ok with a few GB to spare. This is a large number of iphone users. Power users are the vast minority not the majority.

      • Sailor_V90

        Well my sister is one of those soccer moms you speak of and she thought an iPhone 6 at 16GB would be enough. You know just for her couponing apps, pictures and couple of songs. However, what her, and I suspect many other 16GB users, issue is that, that iOS takes up 4GB leaving only 11 to 12GB to work with depending on the update. Also when you delete an app it tends to save your settings and the like which take up space and the only way you can get that space back is if you reboot your iPhone entirely. So no, not even for the basic user is “16GB” enough storage.

      • iBanks

        Apps and the OS will be coming in smaller sizes.

      • Sailor_V90

        @iBanks
        I am aware of that, but compressing the file to be smaller is only a temporary solution. We live in a digital age that is constantly evolving and 16GB is about as useful as a Floppy Disk. However contrary to popular belief lies common sense, which if you know you’re a digital hoarder then invest more money on more storage.

      • :D

        I thought it would be enough for me too – it definitely was when I had a 5. I ended up having to exchange for the 64 GB. I only use about 20-25 GB though, so I really wish they’d swap the 16 for 32

      • Mr.Coolfreak

        Not true anymore, even normal people install large apps like games and take loads of pics and videos and don’t want to delete them.

      • Jeffrey

        I am a power user and I have all the apps I want, 350 songs and a couple of hundred photos and videos and I still have 4 gigs to spare on my 16 gig iPhone 6. I have always had a 16 gig version since my first iPhone, the 3G, I have had around 10 iPhones so far and 16 gigs has always worked for me.

        My friends, who are normal users with loads of photos, videos, apps and songs, have spare gigs on their iPhones too, except for a couple of friends who have a 8 gig version, they can live with it.

      • You aren’t a power user.

      • Manuel Molina

        Agree. That’s barely using anything. I have 1300 hundred songs on my 16 GB. I have a jailbreak so that takes about a GB or so. I have about 40 or 50 apps. I have a lot of pictures from concerts and usually transfer them out fast. That’s normal use and still don’t have anything but 1 GB left. I use icleaner Pro to clean app files. I deleted carrier and language packs to make space. I even deleted stock, watch, health and other apps I don’t use. I barely have room. And if you want a plus iPhone this year, that’s an extra 100, so getting an upgrade to 32 from 16 is another 100 added on. 16 GB is pointless unless you buy extra space

      • Jeffrey

        Yeah because you know me^^

        Of course you do

      • You explained how you use your phone and you barely do anything.

      • Shadowelite123

        If you think your standards are the only ones, then you must have a huge ego.

      • Manuel Molina

        While me and @Nuff Said have disagreed in the past, it goes without saying that he is completely right. The @Jeffrey is not even close to a power user. I have no room on my iPhone with 16 GB from just music and apps, and I consider myself a basic user. I don’t have apps that I never use, I deleted the stocks apps that come with the puo, and I deleted stock ringtones and even the Apple wallpaper to give myself more room. Again, I’m a normal user with 1300 songs and 40 to 50 apps. I’m barely getting by. 16 GB isn’t made for many people. iPod touches start at 32GB I believe now these days, yes? It’s with reason.

      • There has to be some kind of standard otherwise the term wouldn’t exist. You sir simply don’t meet the criteria.

      • Jeffrey

        Sure man, whatever you want;)

      • Blip dude

        Co-Sign!! I don’t even consider myself a power user and 64GB is barely enough for me.

      • techfreak23

        You are definitely not a power user if a 16GB phone has always worked for you…

      • Jeffrey

        That makes no sense at all

      • techfreak23

        It makes perfect sense. It means that you are a conservative user, if anything, because you barely use your phone for anything. Real power users have thousands of photos, videos, and music with beefy applications on them (think mixers, editing tools, iWorks, etc.). If a user wants to use FB, Instagram, twitter, or whatever social media, they have to have room on the phone for the large cache those apps create. Currently on my phone, FB takes up 274MB, Instagram is 162MB, and twitter 154MB. That alone is half a gig.

        A 16GB maybe fine for you, but that means you’re definitely NOT a power user. Real power users on a 16GB would be constantly struggling with managing memory. It’s a pain in the ass to constantly plug into a computer to transfer things and iCloud still isn’t quite what it should be, so not really a great option for most.

        Some people, like yourself, can get by with a 16GB, but what most people are getting at by being angry about a 16GB still around is that it’s been at the same entry level price point for the last 5-6 years or so. Flash memory has become significantly cheaper since the early days of the iPhone and that should be more reflective in the pricing options available on current iPhones. It’s like they are doing most of their customers a disservice by having that as the entry level option because most people just see the price tag and aren’t aware of what they actually need once they start using their device.

        I work at an Apple Store and I see it all the time. Customers come in with their 16GB device saying “It keeps telling me I have no room. How do I add more storage?” and I have to tell them that you can’t. You should have gotten the larger storage option.

      • Jeffrey

        Okay I didn’t read it lol but let’s just say we have a difference of opinion.

    • Dany Quirion

      to make you pay for the 64 GB simple as that

      • CSK

        exactly

      • eXoguti097

        I think even if the 32 was available, I’d still go for the 64. This probably isn’t a problem for a lot of people

      • iBanks

        So if they did away with the 16 and started with the 64 at the $299 price would you then say they priced it for people to buy the 128 gigger for $100 more?

      • Luke Per

        No its just that the 64 is what most people want and use. 16 GB has too little space for the average user with a few hundred pictures and 10-20 apps plus some music, 128 gb is well, who needs 128 GB? I think people would still buy the 64 GB if apple took out the 16, but i suppose they want to give people options. Also some may not be able to afford or dont want to pay for the higher GB because they assume they dont really need them.

      • Manuel Molina

        I see your point and what you’re trying to say. I think it’s just unfair to continue to use 16GB and users given a horrible choice to spend another 100 to 200 dollars for the next GB level. Having a plus makes it an extra 100 and so would adding another GB level. It should be 32 but I understand their move is business.

        Memory is very cheap these days and so is storage. It’s common for many carriers and companies to give you 32 as a start off at the 16GB price. And if they give you 16GB, there is a memory slot option via android devices. 16 just isn’t enough as it use to be. Apps are being made at 80 to 100 MB mark. The new iPhone takes higher mega pictures, so that means it will take bigger size pictures for better quality. Videos at 4K will be larger. 16 is just not useful

      • Rowan09

        That’s why they have cloud storage. How would it benefit Apple to keep giving higher capacity when the cycle of a typical iPhone user before an upgrade is 2 years?

      • Manuel Molina

        You’re right, but their cloud service is just a rip-off. While we should all be grateful for a free 5GB, their prices are horrible at best. I’ll stick to my option with buying the UBS storage for the iPhone. At least I know I will always keep and can use it for more things or other phones down the road.

      • iBanks

        With Apples way of reducing OS size and app size with iOS 9, I think they will be fine. I have an 128GB iPhone 6 Plus and I only use 10GB of storage because all of my photos and videos are in iCloud. Using Apple Music so I stream all my music and stream movies as well. Yes, they could start at 32gigs, but why if they don’t have to? They will still sell either way. But with the 7 they may make that jump and start off at 32. But because I’m so Geeky, I gotta have the bigger and better of Apple products. Didn’t step up to the Apple Watch Edition but I have the step right before it and that’a the stainless steel one.

      • Manuel Molina

        While iOS 9 is a step in the right direction, I don’t think it’s a matter of “why if they don’t have to”, it’s more “they don’t want to.” I understand they are a business and this is a business move; however, it just holds me back from making customer moves with Apple in the future. Not that one customer makes waves, I just see it not worth the money to be stuck with little options for more storage in my view.

      • iBanks

        I’m confused. You’ll stop purchasing Apple products because of an option of 16GB when you are the decision maker on what size suits you and other size options are available? Maybe it’s that they have sold an lucrative amount of 16GB and see that there’s an demand for it and need to fulfill that demand. Just because they don’t choose to make an different standard doesn’t make them a bad company, they have created options. Can’t fault them just because we want more for less, purchase what fits in your budget. I don’t need 128GB but that’s what I purchase because the option was there. You too have that same option.

      • Eliijah Moss

        Lol. You do have a point. Not sure how Apple determines what size/storage/capacity is made default (16gb,64gb,128gb). If I were them, however, I would look at statistical data. Yes, i understand that if the vast majority picked 16gb, it’s either because they want 32gb, or 16gb is enough for them. Statistical data is what factors out needs from wants and vise versa… If any of what I said sounded right.

      • iBanks

        Sounded right to me but I’m sure statistical data is what they use to determine what they will sell. If they will survey every purchaser, then maybe that statistic may have a benefit into increasing the storage. But I’m pretty confident that the 16GB outsells all other sizes mainly because of price point. I sell these devices daily and 9/10 iPhones I sell are 16GB even if I tell them 64 is better in value. Even when it’s the same price as which a 32GB would have cost. They still go for 16 and say I’ll sync all my photos to my computer. I think it’s more of the fact that there isn’t an device of 32 or 64 at the price point of a 16 than the fact of them getting rid of the 16 GB. If they get rid of the 16 GB and sell just and 64 and 128 at the current going prices, people will still cry. So it’s not about the storage options available, it’s more about people complaining of the costs that they don’t want to or can’t afford to pay.

      • Eliijah Moss

        Absolutely true. People don’t understand that there are options for a reason. I guess I don’t understand. Maybe when I start paying bills and worry about mortgage, I will being to understand lol.

      • Eliijah Moss

        *begin

      • Manuel Molina

        I believe you may have read my comment wrong. Again, I respect their business choices; they are a business at the end of the day. However, yes, I refuse to buy a device at the 16 GB model. It doesn’t fit my needs. However, yes, I’m not in the means to spend more money at a higher GB level at the moment. That’s completely personal on my end. That’s not their fault, that’s all me and my mean Anything not a 32 GB model or higher is useless to me. Does that make them a bad company? Not at all. Never said they were nor believe that they are. They are smart to keep 16 GB, as they make money of people who use their cloud in the end. However, I’m just not gonna buy the next iPhone and keep my 6 Plus. That’s a choice and option , too. I don’t expect nor should I expect anything from apple to change 16 GB to 32 GB as the first price point. Again, they are a business and business comes first. I respect, understand, and accep that. I’m going to use my 16 GB Plus and use my iPhone USB device on my iPhone to make complete use of my iPhone to my needs. Again, I’m not going to boycot or make waves, but I’m not gonna buy their next product. I understand there options, though, I think many can agree that even though they have options, it doesn’t mean they are given because they are useful. The options of 16 GB is useless for many, not all. For me, it’s useless. That’s why I have a USB drive for the iPhone. In the end, I have 48 GB for my phone. I’m choosing to do what I will do. Doesn’t mean I won’t get an iPhone 7 or whatever it’s called. I’m not looking to be a cheapskate or anything of that nature, I’m just hoping they kill off 16 GB like other companies. Hopefully that gives you a good understanding to what I meant.

      • iBanks

        Just pay for the device with more storage capacity. It’s that simple.

      • Manuel Molina

        Yeah, that’s very simple. So let me know when you have that extra 100 for me to buy that with then. You don’t know my finances nor anyone’s for that matter. Telling anyone to simply buy something is pretty naive.

      • Blip dude

        Some of us don’t trust cloud storage, and from every complaint I’ve heard so far, I don’t want Apple anywhere near my music.

    • Shadowelite123

      I think that source might just be messing with us. If it turns out to be true, I hope Apple surprises us by doing what they did with he iPad and other 4 storage options. If they do that, a simple $50- $70 price difference between tiers would suffice.

    • Shadowelite123

      And did you really run out of storage like that? I have like 80+ apps on my 32GB 5S with 3GB of Music, and like 20 full length movies. I have 9GB left on my phone. What kind of apps do you have that take up as much as my 80+apps?

      • Why would you defend any manufacturer giving us such paltry memory?

      • Shadowelite123

        Can I ask where did you get the impression that I’m defending a rumor that there will be a 16GB model from simply asking what kind of apps a person is using that takes up way too much memory?

      • Al Fresco

        but you have no music.

      • Eliijah Moss

        Yes, 3gb is music isn’t that much compared to the average user. However, you’d be supprised how many songs are equal to 3gb. Had close to 1,000 using spinrilla, and it’s only taking up 7gb (far from 3gb). If he was saving songs offline with Apple music, then that’s where it gets a little tricky.

      • Shadowelite123

        To me, that’s a lot and that’s not even counting how much in iCloud Music Library songs downloaded. 3GB for me is significant.

    • Same reason they feel as though the older iphone should be sold with only 8GBs

    • Merman123

      I mean it’s not for you. You tried it and it wasn’t enough. Next time you won’t choose 16GB. I choose a slow tier for my internet at TWC and it wasn’t fast enough for me. So I upgraded. I can’t blame TWC for offering the lower tier though. What Apple does need to upgrade is their free iCloud space though …

      • Rowan09

        Why when the just significantly dropped the price for each tier?

    • I have 30 apps plus 500+ pics and approx 4 albums and I still have 4GB free. Although I do spring clean every week. You really don’t need to store everything on the phone unless you’re on the move. For the average person, 16GB would be overkill.
      I still agree though, with falling memory prices, 32GB must be the base option. But it’s not a necessity.

      • TwinSon

        “Although I spring clean every week” – That right there kills yoru average person argument. If you didn’t manage your space, you’d run out pretty quickly. It takes no effort to fill up 16Gb of storage. It would not be overkill for the average person.

    • iBanks

      Just don’t buy the 16GB model. Or is the problem that you don’t exactly care that they have a 16GB model, you just want either an 32 or 64 GB model for the same price as an 16GB model? That will make your argument a little different.

    • burlow

      so…..buy a higher capacity phone.

    • Manuel Molina

      There’s something called an iBridge Leef. It’s a USB drive that connects to your iPhone and let’s you transfer files or record and take pictures directly to the device. I have a crappy 16 GB and fill that up with music alone for long rides in the car. The Leef helps with this problem a lot and 32 GB is cheaper than adding another 100 dollars into the price of the iPhone. I do wish apple stop making 16 GB but they won’t because they make good money off them.

    • Rowan09

      It’s called the cloud. You don’t have to use iCloud but that is their solution.

    • Bugs Bunnay

      They did it just to have people bicker around like you see here in this commnet section.

  • Joonyaboy

    Out of the 9 iphones in our family, only mine has anything over 16GB.

    I check their storage and most are only half-filled. So Apple is doing well it seems. Sure more would be better, but we all know Apple strings this kind of stuff out.

  • Vince Reedy

    Most people that visit idownloadblog and sites like it need more than 16gb. For people like my wife, the only thing that uses space are pictures. I just copy her pictures to our NAS every once in a while and she has a dropbox if she needs to look them up. She doesn’t need a 64gb phone and probably most iPhone users are this way. Apple knows how many they sell and how many are almost full.

    • Mr.Coolfreak

      No, most normal users are installing apps which are getting larger due to retina quality. They are taking videos and pics which are getting larger. 16gb isnt enough for regular people. The only reason Apple has 16 gb is because more people will just pay extra 100 to get 64gb. Apple approximately made 3 billion dollars due to propel getting 64gb. And I can’t tell you how many people can’t update there iOS because they don’t have any space left

      • Rowan09

        The 32Gb was the most popular model I believe so people paid the same price and got twice the storage. I would say that was a deal, instead of paying the $100 extra when 64 was the highest capacity.

      • Mr.Coolfreak

        Your assumption is wrong, the base model has always been the most popular.

      • Rowan09

        So according to you it’s so small that people get it to complain?

  • n0ahcruz3

    With 4k recording and 12mp 16gb will not last, average iphone users like to take pictures and videos, and we all know photos and videos takes up the highest chunk of memory. Greedyrottenapple.

    • Jeffrey

      Maybe Apple has found a way to compress 4K photos and videos so that it won’t take a lot of space. Sounds Apple like to me.

      • Mr.Coolfreak

        Even with compression it will take a good amount of space

      • Jeffrey

        But I think 16 gigs will last for most people, just like it does for me.

      • n0ahcruz3

        if you’re a long time iphone user and kept buying iphones, u backed it up then resync that with your new iphone then it already takes up alot of space then overtime it will consume more space same cycle. If you did that, then you know the struggle. Unless of course you have iCloud subscription or dropbox. Now that apple is putting 12mp and 4k recording, 16gb will not be enough and some users don’t even know about cloud storages.

      • Jeffrey

        I am a long time iPhone user, I’ve had about 10 iPhones, first to be the 3G, and I always had the 16 GB version. I am a power user and I don’t use iCloud or dropbox or any kind of cloud software. I have 350 songs (recently deleted 250 because I didn’t listen to them anymore), about 100 photos/videos and all the apps I need and more but I still have 4 gigs left of my 16 gigs storage. All of my friends have storage left with 16 gigs too. The thing you said about backing up and resyncing is kind of unusual. Have you never restarted and did a clean install? I like to do that everytime I get a new iPhone, just because it makes me feel like I’m getting the best out of my iPhone! Maybe you should try it too, just maybe.

      • n0ahcruz3

        I dont delete i backed it up on my computer when then i sell the old iphone buy a new one then restore that on the new iphone, then all the photos and apps will be on the new iphone then, i go take pictures/videos again on the new iphone thats additional gigs on the memory then install new firmware then the cycle continues. So this time i got the 64gb cause all the photos videos of the old phones are restored to the new one. So if i get the 16gb iphone and restored it there wont be enough space left. I hope u understood what i said lol.

      • Jeffrey

        Yeah I get it, but I’m the kind of person that want to start with a clean phone every now and then. I only install the apps I use and delete the ones I never use, I also don’t take an awful lot of pictures and when I do, I delete the ones that I don’t like, and every now and then, I put all my photos on my mac and delete all the photos on my iPhone so I can start over again while all my photos get cropped up on my mac.

        Of course I respect the way everyone else, including you, want to use your phone though.

      • Bruh, just how many apps have you downloaded, not including stock?

      • Jeffrey

        About 40, I delete the ones I don’t use, and please don’t tell me that you use all the 120 apps you use (so to speak), because that’s just plain bullshit.

      • Blip dude

        I would really like for you to play with a 4K camera (if rumors turn to facts), and then given us the results in terms of storage.

      • Jeffrey

        I’m probably gonna skip the 6s though;) But you might be right about people who take lots of photos and videos, but I don’t take a lot of photos and videos, so for me, it most likely won’t be a problem.

  • 32 gig is the best option for me

    • eXoguti097

      Guess you gotta go 64

  • singhay559

    Isn’t this the same line up annually year after year.

  • GarrettD

    So instead of paying $200 on-contract for any other flagship phone, which will probably include at least 32 GB of storage or expandable storage, I will pay $400 for the flagship plus that has more than a measly 16 GB. Seriously considering other options now.

  • iPhoneWINS

    lol @ 16 gigs in 2015

    • Disqus

      Lucky for you they’ll continue to offer other options. Yay!

      • Mr.Coolfreak

        That’s not the point

      • Eliijah Moss

        That is the point. Now be a good little boy, and eat your vegetables. If you want to full-on rage, then please, do so.

    • johnsm

      in 3rd world sh1tholes they still sell 8GB phones……. in 2015

    • Jim Hart

      A 16gig Apple II would rock.

  • Rowan09

    No surprise Apple is a company that makes most of its business from hardware sales. They got rid of the 32 and gave me the 64GB, so I’m more than happy with that move.

    • Eliijah Moss

      Unfortunately, people aren’t realizing this. Before the 128gb option, it was 16gb for $199 and 32gb for $299. Now, it’s 16gb for $199 and 64 for $299. People are getting the option to get doubled the space for the same price when comparing to last years, and the previous years price range

  • Matta Fakt

    One of the other annoyances is that the 16gb models are pretty much the only ones readily available for the first month or two of sales, if you aren’t well-off enough to preorder and pay in full up front.

  • Y4VIN

    It’s Obvious… The’re keeping 16Gb just so we all see the value in paying $100 more for 64Gb. Essentially most people complain but then do this (upgrade) now and Apple makes $100 more on the same phone.

    • Rowan09

      Even if it was 32 there’s still value in getting the 64 and for people like my friend who does professional video recording the 128. I think it’s more about promoting cloud services over specifically upgrading to the 64GB. If the 16GB was so usable people wouldn’t buy it leaving them with extra inventory, so obviously it’s not as bad as we are making it seem. Now the 8Gb devices are just a one year device and a joke for any real hard core smart phone user.

  • Dante Arellano

    There is people that always get iphone free after 2 years and 16gb model I always pay full price iphone 6 plus 128gb $999 no contract or any fuckking waiting

  • M_thoroughbred

    Everyone complaining abut the 16gb iPhone not being enough well don’t buy it. They wil also have a 64 & 128gb models.

  • Joey

    lol @ 16GB haters qq

  • Jukkmoddr

    MOREOVER MOREOVER MOREOVER

  • urrl

    In a way I’m glad they didn’t offer 32 gig when I bought my IP6+. With a 64 gig model I’ve never wanted extra space and at the moment I have about 12 gig left. If I had bought a 32 gig I would have been disappointed.

  • Jason B

    I’m an apple fan, but this is one reason Apple sucks. Milking $100 out of people to get what most would consider a base phone memory.

    And for those that say a basic user doesn’t need anymore than 16GB? Are these basic people the people that tend to offload their videos off their phone to a computer? No, well then, 16GB is not enough then.

    I’m constantly having to take my wife’s phone and offload the videos…very annoying.

  • Jeffrey

    Hahah that’s the stupidest thing I’ve heard all day

    It’s like, if you could choose between a Fiat Panda or a Ferrari 458 both at the same price, which would you choose.

    Stupid.

    • n0ahcruz3

      That was a legit comparison, you on you other hand comparing a car lmfao! Now that was stupid. What’s more stupider was comparing sub 20k car to a super car hahaha

      • Jeffrey

        Yeah figure of speech bro, heard of it? Your comparison was plain bullsh*t.

      • n0ahcruz3

        Your figure of speech is dumb omg lol

      • n0ahcruz3

        And don’t get butt hurt, wouldn’t you be happy if apple were to offer 32gb instead of 16gb for the entry level? Like what they did with the iphone 6 offering the 64gb for $750 instead of just 32gb.

      • Jeffrey

        Ofc I would be happy, I’m only saying I don’t need it

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