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Apple’s new 12-inch MacBook has left watchers scratching their head over its one-port design.

By replacing Thunderbolt I/O, standard USB, MagSafe and SD card ports with a single, much slimmer USB-C port (also known as USB Type-C), the company was able to create “the future of notebook.”

At the same time, the new notebook does inconvenience users, at least over the short term, by requiring various adapters to connect the machine to their existing accessories. Thankfully, there’re signs that the industry is going all in on USB-C.

Google’s recently refreshed Pixel notebook has two USB-C ports, for example. In addition, upcoming accessories, like Nomad’s versatile Apple Watch charging dock incorporate USB-C as the new charging standard.

It may be a safe bet to wager that USB-C will eventually take the gadget industry by storm, but this begs the question of Lightning I/O on iPhones, iPods and iPads. Is what we’re seeing here Apple’s next iPhone connector, do you think, or should the company stick with Lightning I/O for the next ten years?

Cast your vote below.

And now, some food for thought.

Pundit John Gruber hinted on his Talk Show podcast that Apple may have actually invented USB-C and given it to the standard bodies.

“The politics of such is that they can’t really say that,” Gruber said. “They’re not going to come out in public and say it, but they did. It is an Apple invention and they do want it to become a standard.”

Curiously enough, the United States Patent & Trademark Office last week published an Apple patent the company filed back in the third quarter of 2013 which outlines a slim and reversible I/O connector capable of supporting a variety of data types, including audio, HDMI, audio, USB and video.

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Moreover, Apple was granted a patent nearly a year ago covering a reversible USB connector which reminds us a lot of the USB-C standard.

Of course, we don’t know whether USB-C can do all the tricks Lightning I/O is capable of. Should Apple adopt USB-C across iOS devices, such a move won’t be without perils.

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While the company sells the $19 USB-C to USB Adapter that would let you charge your Lightning-enabled iOS device through the new MacBook’s USB-C port, it’s worth keeping in mind that existing accessories that are MFI-certified (MFi stands for ‘Made for iPhone’) actually incorporate encryption chips.

Rainer Brockerhoff, Apple’s software programmer and ex-engineer, said in September 2012 that Apple had to create proprietary Lightning I/O because the popular Micro USB standard just wasn’t smart enough.

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“It has only five pins so most of the dock connector functions wouldn’t work – only charging and syncing would,” he noted. “Also, the pins are so small that no current plug/connector manufacturer allows the 2A needed for iPad charging.”

So there’s that.

Needles to say, it’s anyone’s guess at this point if adopting USB-C on iOS hardware would entail another painful transition affecting not just its users, but the entire iOS accessories ecosystem as well.

And even though other smartphone manufacturers are yet to release mobile devices with USB-C in place of Mini or Micro USB as a new standard for syncing and charging, it certainly feels that’s where the industry is headed — with or without Apple on board.

By the way, Glenn Fleishman has laid out some compelling reasons over at MacWorld as to why the new MacBook’s single port is all you really need. To learn more about the difference between USB-C and USB 3.1, check out this article.

And what’s your take?

Should Apple retire Lightning on iOS devices in favor of USB-C?

  • The only 2 reasons I’d say no are

    1: Lightning ports are free from pins that can snap

    2: It could add thickness to the devices

    • No One Important

      Most people would be ok with more thickness. I for one am tired of my phone be so thin.

      • sun

        I personally want a much thinner iphone.

      • Maxim∑

        yeah but Apple will not make there phones thicker so we can forget about that

      • Tyler Smith

        i think i read somewhere that if the iPhone 6 was as thick as the 4 it would have 3x the battery life…

      • That’s utter bull if you even remotely comprehend physics

      • Tyler Smith

        same chip. same everything just more space for a battery… how is that hard to understand…

      • JP

        bull shiiit

      • The iPhone 6 is 25.8% thinner than the iPhone 4, how would the iPhone 6 battery increase by 300% when it would only be 25% bigger?

      • Tyler Smith

        I’m gonna walk away before I throw my Mac in hoping I hit you…

      • You understand the math now?

      • Tyler Smith

        You don’t understand how technology works. thats all I can say.

      • Kr00

        Seriously, just give up while you’re behind. You deserved to get slammed for such a dumb comment. Give it up and just move along. You’re making yourself look childish.

      • Tyler Smith

        I’m not actually. I’m using simple facts. It’s not hard. You should try it sometime.

      • If you read the discussion, the only one who has posted any facts is myself. I posted the figures that proved your statement incorrect.

        You honestly thought that if the iPhone 6 was 25% thicker, the battery would increase in capacity by 300%?

        How did you even come up with that figure? that is troll math right there.

      • Tyler Smith

        Because it may be 25% thinner but it is also much bigger in size. So actually if you think about it my numbers make sense. I mean I don’t know if you went to college or anything but if I need to I can get out the giant white board and use smaller terms I can

      • jakerogers . co . uk/iphone

        (Because you appear to be struggling)

      • Tyler Smith

        Good one? I don’t know what to say because it proved nothing.. Like actuallu though. Please explain what that proved.

      • To quote you: Because it may be 25% thinner but it is also much bigger in size.

        We are talking about an iPhone 6 vs an iPhone 6 that is 25% thicker.. where are you getting these new magical measurements that make it “much bigger in size”? all that’s changing is the depth/thickness.

        I can’t find one person in this comment section that agrees with you, surely you can’t be so deluded to think that we are all wrong (despite proving you wrong by doing the math) and that you are correct?

      • Tyler Smith

        I find a bunch of people who have upvoted me… And haven’t upvoted you… This is awkward..

      • Joseph Corn

        Your only taking into account one dimension there at three that you are forgetting so in theory it could be much bigger than just a 25% increase not to mention the battery takes up a small portion of the phone as if it could utilize all the extra space the battery would be much bigger giving about 300% more battery than currently installed in the iPhone because the in the extra room you could fit 3 new batteries

      • davea0511

        Thanks for pointing that out … I was like “really … you guys are that stupid to think that the entire innards of the iphone4 was battery?”. If you take into account the fact that most of the innards are electronics by far, then a 300% increase seems intuitively obvious.

      • Kr00

        So please provide us with your so called facts that, according to you, would provide a 300% increase in battery life on an iPhone? Truly only a moron would fight for his ego whilst exposing his lack of intelligence. Again, just give up, the hole is only getting bigger. There’s 8 billion people in this world smarter than you, you can’t argue with them all champ.

      • Tyler Smith

        I already won the argument. But you can keep trying. Please continue to look like a lonely asshole on the Internet 🙂

      • Kr00

        Ahem…. You won shit. You STILL haven’t provided any facts at all to back up your comment about a 300% increase in battery life, just childish rants and made yourself look like a bigger a moron, so you’ve left no doubt now. How do you like that egg on your face, fried or poached? Unless you can provide evidential “facts”, which you clearly can’t you will forever be a loser, and all here will know the name of an idiot. You could’ve just backed out and let it be, but you just had to keep it up. Pat yourself on the back.

      • Tyler Smith

        You just don’t understand. Obviously you aren’t intellegent enough to understand

      • Brent

        Ok so the current decisions of the iPhone 6 Battery are 95.25mm by 38.1mm by 3.302mm so if you increased the depth of the phone by 25% or 1.725mm you could increase the volume of the battery by 21,217.81mm squared. This is up from the previous battery volume of 11,983.04 mm squared.
        This is achieved by the fact that the entire area of the new depth would be used by the battery. THE COMPONENTS the chip and other hardware would not take up ANY more space. So if you take the current battery volume of 11,983.04 mm squared (95.25mm X 38.11mm X 3.302mm) and stacked another battery with 21,217.81mm squared (dimensions of 138.1mm X 67mm X 1.725mm) this brings us to a total volume of 33,200.85mm squared. A 277.0654% increase of volume. So not 3 times the battery life but 2.77 isn’t bad!

      • Kr00

        If you’re not aware of this saying, then I suggest you aquaint yourself with it.

        “Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.”

      • Tyler Smith

        Please explain here buddy

      • Kr00

        Oh, sigh. You really don’t get it do you? I hope they look after you well in the sheltered workshop. I’m truly embarrassed for you. Really!

      • Tyler Smith

        Respond at a later time why don’t you lol well anyway. I actually did win. Good day 🙂

      • Kr00

        Yes. You won. King of the idiots award. Ha ha ha.

        Have a look at the comments. You got slammed my friend and everyone called you out. I was just telling you to give it up as you were making an idiot of yourself defending bullshit.

        Now if you’d like to actually provide evidence of your comments, please do, otherwise you look like a complete and utter fool. So put up, shut up or grow up little boy.

      • Tyler Smith

        No. More people agreed with me than you. That’s final.

      • Kr00

        Still waiting for that evidence to back up your utter bullshit champ. Can’t find it can we? Ha ha, loser.

      • Brent

        Ok so the current decisions of the iPhone 6 Battery are 95.25mm by 38.1mm by 3.302mm so if you increased the depth of the phone by 25% or 1.725mm you could increase the volume of the battery by 21,217.81mm squared. This is up from the previous battery volume of 11,983.04 mm squared.
        This is achieved by the fact that the entire area of the new depth would be used by the battery. THE COMPONENTS the chip and other hardware would not take up ANY more space. So if you take the current battery volume of 11,983.04 mm squared (95.25mm X 38.11mm X 3.302mm) and stacked another battery with 21,217.81mm squared (dimensions of 138.1mm X 67mm X 1.725mm) this brings us to a total volume of 33,200.85mm squared. A 277.0654% increase of volume. So not 3 times the battery life but 2.77 isn’t bad!

        DO YOU understand the math now??

      • why are you squaring? it’s a 3-dimensional shape, if you increased the 3.3mm thickness by 25% it would be 5mm so 95.25 x 38.1 x 5 = 11.97ml (66% increase in volume)

        1810mAh + 66% = 3004mAh

        1810mAh x 3 = 5430mAh (Tyler Smith’s original claim)

      • Tyler Smith

        You wouldn’t just making the initial battery bigger. You would have the original. Then a much bigger battery on the very back of the phone that would reach from the bottom to about where the camera is. Just below it actually and it would be about 2.4 mm thick and relatively as big as the phone itself. Now I can’t give you exact numbers. Obviously because such a thing doesn’t exist but if you look at how big the battery actually is it’s very small. So having that massive of a battery would most likely triple the battery life on the phone.

      • Brent

        I meant cubed, it was 1am when I posted.. but the numbers are still the same. Where are you getting 66% from? 1810mAh with an increase of 277% is 5013.7mAh

        1810 x 2.77 = 5013.7

        For the new battery, it doesn’t just get thicker. It gets longer and taller too. Because you can now use the entire height and width of the phone. Plus the original area of the battery.

      • davea0511

        Good effort, but you can’t reason with willful ignorance who’s too busy screaming he’s right to do the math right himself.

      • lysingur

        “1810mAh + 66% = 3004mAh”
        So this is the level of math of the person who thinks he’s so smart from the beginning. Go home, Jake.

      • Marvin

        lol not 100% of the iphone is a battery.
        the battery is huge with 25 % more space.
        will not survive 3X longer – maybe 2X

      • What? obviously not 100% of the phone is battery, but if the phone got 25% thicker, that wouldn’t allow the battery to double in size or capacity…

        Where are you getting “2X’ from? are you even doing the math or just pulling numbers out of your…

      • Hey, Jake, help me out here. Math is not my strength, but I was making some crazy sums here.

        The iPhone 6 battery is 11.9 cm x 4.8 cm. Since the phone itself is 0.69 cm I would allow a thickness of 0.49 cm for the battery. If it where 25% thicker, it would be 0.6125 cm thick. In this manner, the thicker battery would have ~ 35.2 cm cubics, while the original one would have 28.2 cm cubics. Assuming 28.2 equivalents to 100% battery, then 35.2 would be ~ 124.8%. Allowing a margin where apple would optimize the remaining space to optimize the components position, I would guess +25%?

        Following this logics, a 25% thicker iPhone would mean an estimated maximum increase of 50% of battery capacity?

        I think that would be reasonable, but I’m not sure if I made the math right.

      • It’s late and I really cba to do the math, but it seems like it checks out.. a 50% increase is possible, a 300% increase is not.

      • Brent

        Ok so the current decisions of the iPhone 6 Battery are 95.25mm by 38.1mm by 3.302mm so if you increased the depth of the phone by 25% or 1.725mm you could increase the volume of the battery by 21,217.81mm squared. This is up from the previous battery volume of 11,983.04 mm squared.
        This is achieved by the fact that the entire area of the new depth would be used by the battery. THE COMPONENTS the chip and other hardware would not take up ANY more space. So if you take the current battery volume of 11,983.04 mm squared (95.25mm X 38.11mm X 3.302mm) and stacked another battery with 21,217.81mm squared (dimensions of 138.1mm X 67mm X 1.725mm) this brings us to a total volume of 33,200.85mm squared. A 277.0654% increase of volume. So not 3 times the battery life but 2.77 isn’t bad!

        Ask if you have any questions.

      • cabrone

        so it’s 25% thicker AND how much wider/taller…. it’s not outside the realm of possible…

      • Dilir Daiyan Aranna

        The A8 chip is much more efficient

      • Stoker

        “same chip. same everything just more space for a battery… how is that hard to understand…”
        That’s totally correct: Except it’s not the same chip. And it’s not the same screen and a different GPU, and different audio processors, and different variants of radios supporting different bands, and well, it’s pretty much different in every single way except for some of the feel of the different version of iOS it runs. Except for that.

        If you believe what you said you have no business commenting on technical issues.

      • Tyler Smith

        so you can’t make all that stuff smaller and make it work with a little bit thicker phone? If you believe what you said you have no buisness trying to correct me 🙂

      • Stoker

        The percentage increase in battery size you are proposing is not going to compensate for the increased power requirements of the faster device to the tune of 3X. Sorry if you don’t like it; but sometimes you have to live in the real world.

      • Tyler Smith

        Sorry someone over exaggerated but maybe 1.5 times possibly 2 times longer. That makes sense. If you were to consolidate things and use the”same type” of chips this is possible

      • Lmao and you tried to question my technical knowledge

      • Tyler Smith

        I am now.

      • davea0511

        You gave up too early … look at Brent’s comments. Jake has been pwned.

      • Joshua The-Legend Wiebe

        That’s completely absurd. If the iPhone was to be thicker, it would consume more battery life, simply engineering the chips in a whole new, slimmer design preserves power thus increasing battery. The thicker it gets, the more it needs.

      • Tyler Smith

        so if you have the same chip… and the same everything.. but more space for a battery.. it uses more? man thats really cool.

      • Carlos Gomes

        That’s ridiculous, Joshua. What’s your reasoning behind that assumption?
        The hardware, including the whole board, would be as thick as it is right now, why on earth would they make the internals thicker?

      • Joshua The-Legend Wiebe

        The reasoning behind it explains the iPhone 4 compared to the iPhone 6, think about it.

      • That doesn’t really make sense.. being thicker doesn’t make it magically consume more power, it could be a thicker device with exactly the same components inside.

        If it was wider/taller however, then it would affect battery life as the screen would require more power

      • Domodo

        The iPhone 6 is 25.8% thinner than the iPhone 4, how would the iPhone 6 battery increase by 300% when it would only be 25% bigger?

        It being 25% more thick doesn’t mean a 25% increase in battery capacity/life. That’s beyond ridiculous to say the least.

        Current iPhone 6 Plus takes up approximately 73 cubic centimeters of physical space. It’s battery takes up 19 of those centimeters. (Dimensions taken from iFixit and GSMarena.) If the iPhone 6 Plus was 9.6 millimeters thin, like the iPhone 4S, it would take up 97 cubic centimeters of physical space.

        Since we know that is a 24 cubic centimeter difference, and the current battery takes up just 19, that means they could fit 1.3 times more battery in it. One that it currently has, an extra one, and plus one third. (2915+2915+875) It could have a ~6500 mAh battery. More than twice, and up to three times the battery life.

        Simple math.

      • Tyler Smith

        Sorry to say this so late but thank you. Omg thank you!

      • 1: we were talking about an iPhone 6

        2: 2915 x 1.3 is 3,789.5

        3: how is 6500 “up to three times” 2915?

      • Domodo

        1. The iPhone 6 is even thinner than the Plus, which means if it were the same thickness as the iPhone 4, even more volume would be added, thus even more battery would fit inside. Same math applies, just different dimensions.

        2. That 1.3 was a typo, if you were any good at math you would’ve realized I meant 2.3 times more.

        3. Do the math. I haven’t seen that in any of your comments you posted so far. Correct me if I’m wrong. You bring up knowledge of physics/math, but present none of it. Multiply 2915 by 2.3 and look at what you get. But keep in mind I rounded the numbers for internal iPhone 6 Plus’ dimensions. There is a reason why I clearly stated up to, since different phone dimensions would allow for different, more efficient, battery placement.

      • iPhone 6 battery is 95.25mm x 38.1mm x 3.30mm = 11.97ml

        6.9mm iPhone – 3.3mm battery = 3.6mm for components

        25% thicker iphone 6 = 8.6mm

        8.6mm – 3.6mm for components = 5mm for battery

        95.25mm x 38.1mm x 5mm = 18.14ml (66% increase in volume)

        1810mAh + 66% = 3004mAh

        1810mAh x 3 = 5430mAh (Tyler Smith’s original claim)

      • Domodo

        iPhone 6 is 6.9 mm thick, whereas the iPhone 4 is 9.3 mm thick (Wikipedia). iPhone 6 takes up 63 cubic centimeters of physical space. If it was as thick as the iPhone 4, 9.3 mm, it would take up 83 cubic centimeters of physical space (volume), which is 20 ccm difference.

        Keeping up? Moving on.

        iPhone 6’s battery takes up 12 ccm (iFixit), and has the capacity of 1810 mAh. Since we have determined that a thicker iPhone 6 would take up 20 ccm more, that would allow Apple to fit almost 2 extra batteries (with the one it already has) inside the extra space. (Since one takes up 12 ccm.) More precisely, they would be able to fit 2.7 times more battery, which is around to 4900 mAh, which is 270% more, thus almost 3 times the battery life.

        Any questions?

      • I’ve just given you the dimensions of the battery and calculated the 25% increase in depth for you.

        I didn’t need a reply, I posted the math for you to read, go get a calculator and check it for yourself

      • Domodo

        It’s easy to use a calculator with numbers you pull out of your ass. Get your sources right and get a math tutor. Ask him to explain percentages to you.

      • LOL

      • Domodo

        You don’t even understand what I’m saying! First of all, the iPhone 4 is 9.3 mm thick. Second, in those 3.3 mm where the battery is, THE REST of the components (logic board) also reside. Third, the image.

      • Greg Warren

        And with that thickness plus the added width for the larger screen, you’d never be able to hold it in your hand.

      • Tyler Smith

        I would be able to. It’s about as thick as a phone with a case on it. If you can’t hold it then that’s your problem. Maybe grow up. That might help

      • Domodo

        Thank you for being right.

      • Marcus

        This would be amazing. I’d prefer a super powerful (thick) iPhone over a thin one. Same goes for computers. I don’t care about the thickness of the MacBook Pro. I only care about how powerful it is.

      • Tyler Smith

        I completely agree.. Like 1000%

      • Brent

        Ok so the current decisions of the iPhone 6 Battery are 95.25mm by 38.1mm by 3.302mm so if you increased the depth of the phone by 25% or 1.725mm you could increase the volume of the battery by 21,217.81mm squared. This is up from the previous battery volume of 11,983.04 mm squared.
        This is achieved by the fact that the entire area of the new depth would be used by the battery. THE COMPONENTS the chip and other hardware would not take up ANY more space. So if you take the current battery volume of 11,983.04 mm squared (95.25mm X 38.11mm X 3.302mm) and stacked another battery with 21,217.81mm squared (dimensions of 138.1mm X 67mm X 1.725mm) this brings us to a total volume of 33,200.85mm squared. A 277.0654% increase of volume. So not 3 times the battery life but 2.77 isn’t bad!

        Questions? please ask and I can explain.

      • Tyler Smith

        It makes sense

      • I’d like flush camera tbh

      • No One Important

        As would I.

      • Heitor Castro 

        I would say the same thing since “thickness” means more battery. Otherwise, stick with the Lightning port.

      • WaterTrooper

        Because the thinness of the iPhone is so horrid. Please tell us how thin the iPhone has to be for you to be happy?

      • No One Important

        Not as thin. Makes the 6 plus painful to hold after a long use. And I have large hands. It just creates a giant gap that’s uncomfortable.

    • blindexecutioner

      The pins part is the thing I would prefer change with USB C. If Apple was in on it why didn’t they design it like the lightning connector or simply use the Lightning connector as the next usb standard?

  • No One Important

    Most definitely. It would allow for a larger range of peripherals. And quite possibly keep the price of charging cords lower than they are now. It’s also USB 3 so much faster sync and change times as well.

  • Jerry

    They switched to lightening to make the phones thinner. Will never happen until they make one the size of the lightening cable

  • 9to5Slavery

    Yes

  • BigWin

    Should it? Absolutely. Will it, no way. Apple makes WAY too much money off of proprietary accessories. Good to dream though 🙂

    • Maxim∑

      That didn’t stop them from releasing it on the Macbook

      • No One Important

        There aren’t accessories that would make sense for a MagSafe though.

      • BigWin

        Exactly….apples and oranges.

      • Guest

        Your statement was 100% true, he didn’t like you saying anything negative about his god Apple.

  • john myth

    you are forgetting that the internal electronics need for all those signal types probably wouldn’t fit inside the phone

  • pauleebe

    The iPhone doesn’t need USB Type C.

    I have already invested in tons of Lighting cables. Lighting is still a new standard being 3 years old. 30 Pin lasted 11 years. I’m not expecting a new interface until the iPhone 7, but more realistically the iPhone 8 at the earliest.

    Apple should offer USB Type C to Lightning cables, but USB Type C to USB 3.0/USB Type C would be stupid.

    • Type C to Type C wouldn’t be stupid.. imagine 5-10 years (take any figure) when consoles have Type C ports, the controllers have Type C ports, your phones have Type C ports.. everything can communicate with 1 male to male Type C cable that is completely reversible

  • Chindavon

    No mag safe charger is VERY dissapointing.

  • Jonathan

    I have 2 reason why to say yes.

    1. It’s still reversible, so nothing lost

    2. This is USB.C, so I could plug in all kinds of stuff (cameras, hard drives maybe (if it can provide enough power), and, well just about anything a laptop can take)

    • James G

      Just because it’s reversible doesn’t mean “nothing is lost” – the point about micro-USB not supporting something like 2A charging for iPads is certainly a loss in that instance.

      • Micro-USB isn’t reversible..

        Lightning is reversible and charges iPads

        USB Type C is reversible and could charge an iPad

  • Jo

    MagSafe should replace USB-C AND Lightning.

    • Not really practical to have all of our keyboards/mice/storage devices connected by magnets. I also can’t imagine Magsafe allowing for a great data throughput

  • James G

    It’s possible there are technical capabilities of lightning that aren’t present in USB-C, we just don’t know without digging in really deep into the capabilities. That said, there is always the possibility Apple will start selling lightning cables with USB-C on the other end instead of the standard USB they’ve been using.

    It would be nice if the data transfer rate of lightning was improved…especially when restoring iOS devices with 20+ GB of content!

  • cristian

    They should replace the lightning ports a.s.a.p. It breaks so easily. I think that usb-c won’t break that easily

    • I’ve never had a lightning port break.. unless you mean the cable? in which case an Apple USB Type-C cable would probably break just as easily.

      If anything, the Type-C ports are more prone to damage as they contain a central pin, much like Micro-USB which is prone to failure.

  • Rock lobsta

    You say that micro usb couldn’t charge the iPad because it couldn’t give the registered amount of 2amps. But the usb c can charge a laptop. So clearly usb c can support an iPad.

  • Rob180sx

    I’d like to see a apple watch style charger/sync cable on the back of the iPhone. this would make for great docks and charging cases.

  • mike

    What ever happened to thunderbolt ports on the mac?

    • Guest

      What ever happened to PING…just another apple failure.

      • Thunderbolt isn’t an Apple failure, it’s an Intel technology that is wildly innovative and unmatched

    • Still present on every Mac except the Macbook which serves as the go-between for Macbook Air’s and iPads.

      Thunderbolt isn’t going anywhere, don’t worry, in fact, 40Gbps Thunderbolt 3 is coming soon.

  • Biggest reason why they are going to change all devices to this… the lightning connector was hacked recently. So they have really no choice but to change over if they want to keep security tight. Might not be until iPhone 7 but its going to happen.

    • Carlos Gomes

      USB has been hackable since forever and USB-C didn’t solve the issue at all.

  • Mauricio Figueroa

    USB Type C could give the iPhone and the iPad the posibility to connect to diferent devices and with that the option to get rid of the expensive and not always useful Apple adaptors.

    For example USB Type C has direct MHL 3 support (mhltech .org/Alt-Mode-FAQs.aspx), so bye bye to the awful Lightning Digital AV Adapter.

  • Anonomous.TECH.man

    Lightning is more succure but not duable at all the pins corrode like a whore. USB C is bigger thicker though it would make a universal way of charging divices.

  • We understand a bigger battery = more capacity for power, but Tyler said increasing the thickness of the phone by 25% would allow for a 300% battery capacity increase.

    • Tyler Smith

      Do you have an iPhone 4 in front of you? Because I do. And man my 6 looks huge. Make the phone as thick as it and woah hold up.. It would be the se phone… Just bigger screen size.. No freaking way… Oh wait wouldn’t that allow for a bigger battery?

      • Why do you keep talking about the iPhone 4?

        I’ll quote you again: “i think i read somewhere that if the iPhone 6 was as thick as the 4 it would have 3x the battery life…”

        We’re comparing an iPhone 6 to an iPhone 6 that’s as thick as an iPhone 4 (25% thicker) the height/width isn’t changing, just the thickness.

        I think perhaps you’ve confused yourself to the point that you’re trying to compare an iPhone 4-sized iPhone 6 to an actual iPhone 6.

      • Tyler Smith

        Exactly… Make it thicker… Not as thick as your head obviously but 25% thicker. There would be more room for a bigger or more battery. What don’t you get about that…

      • You: “Because it may be 25% thinner but it is ALSO MUCH BIGGER IN SIZE.”

        You: “Just BIGGER SCREEN size.. No freaking way… Oh wait wouldn’t that allow for a bigger battery?”

        You: “Exactly… Make it THICKER… 25% THICKER”

        So make up your mind.. what is it? just thicker or a bigger screen?

        We’re comparing an iPhone 6 to an iPhone 6 that is 25% thicker and you said the battery would last 3x as long if it was 25% thicker.

      • Tyler Smith

        I’m not going to argue with you. If you don’t understand what is being said then you need to go back to school or something, it’s a very simple concept. I’m gonna go now…

        *walks out of room away from idiot*

      • Lmao finally realised your math didn’t add up?

      • Tyler Smith

        No I actually did the math and it sorta makes sense. You must have done your math wrong 🙂 maybe not 3x but 1.5 or 2x actually makes a lot of sense. I said I saw. Not that I believed. I’m just backing up that it is possible. With the battery technology today vs what it was. It actually makes sense. But I’ll let you sit in your little dilutional world 🙂 bye buddy

      • iPhone 6 battery: 1810 mAh

        1810 mAh + 25% = 2262.5 mAh

        1810 mAh x 1.5 = 2715 mAh (a 50% increase just by getting 25% thicker… magic)

        1810 mAh x 2 = 3620 mAh (a 100% increase just by getting 25% thicker)

        1810 mAh x 3 = 5430 mAh (Your original estimation LOL)

        Are you sure you did the math? because your math doesn’t “Sorta” make sense at all?

        Also, dilutional isn’t the word you were looking for.

      • Tyler Smith

        Actually someone did the math.. As did I. I am just to lazy to type out numbers. And I was actuallu right. I’m pretty sure he replied to you as well but I wanted you to know that you were wrong.

      • iPhone 6 battery is 95.25mm x 38.1mm x 3.30mm = 11.97ml

        6.9mm iPhone – 3.3mm battery = 3.6mm for components

        25% thicker iphone 6 = 8.6mm

        8.6mm – 3.6mm for components = 5mm for battery

        95.25mm x 38.1mm x 5mm = 18.14ml (66% increase in volume)

        1810mAh + 66% = 3004mAh

        1810mAh x 3 = 5430mAh (your original claim)

      • Tyler Smith

        First off no…

      • finally.. you realised you were wrong

      • Tyler Smith

        You need to give up… I am correct and you are not. Just gather your things and walk away with the dignity you still have left. You can’t possibly have that thick of a skull that you will continue to argue a losing battle. Please I am correct you are not. Drop it.

      • despite the fact you refuse to post any logical math and the fact that I’ve posted various equations and diagrams to explain to you how volume works.

        Ok, run along now child

      • Tyler Smith

        Considering my reply wasn’t posted…
        Tl;dr your math is wrong. You have no idea what you are talking about. Stop being an Internet thug when you are wrong. You have no life… Honestly go outside or something.. And lastly good day. 🙂 idiot…

      • prove it’s wrong.. post your own math

        Until then, hush little girl

      • Tyler Smith

        Lol you are special aren’t you. Someone already posted the same math I did and proved you wrong. I don’t think you understand how math works. Because your math is well… Wrong. I’m gonna go because arguing with you actually makes me feel stupider… That doesn’t happen often. good day

      • 1: post the dimensions of the iPhone 6 battery in mm

        2: calculate the area

        until you post that you’re wrong

      • Tyler Smith

        Okay buddy ✋

      • didn’t think so

      • Tyler Smith

        Can we ignore each other now? Because I can and I have been since well… You started talking but can we both do it now? I’m getting tired of being right.

      • you mean you’re too embarrassed to post your math because you realised it was wrong

      • Tyler Smith

        *ignore*

      • hahahaha it really upsets you doesn’t it? that you can’t do basic multiplication and division

      • Tyler Smith

        *ignores* side note Math major. Js.. So yeah *ignore*

      • Tyler Smith

        Side note.. Math major Js.. So I will continue to ignore you.

      • yeah course you do mate, and you’ve replied to me three times since you started ignoring me, perhaps get a dictionary for the definition of ‘ignore’ after you learn multiplication

  • Arthur Larin

    It’s way too soon to make everyone throw their lightning cords away.

  • momerathe

    I voted no, because I don’t want to buy new cables.

    • TAJF

      Imvoted yes because replacement cables will be cheaper due to economies of scale and because Lightning isn’t any faster than USB-2.

  • iPhone 6 battery is 95.25mm x 38.1mm x 3.30mm = 11.97ml

    6.9mm iPhone – 3.3mm battery = 3.6mm for components

    25% thicker iphone 6 = 8.6mm

    8.6mm – 3.6mm for components = 5mm for battery

    95.25mm x 38.1mm x 5mm = 18.14ml (66% increase in volume)

    1810mAh + 66% = 3004mAh

    1810mAh x 3 = 5430mAh (Tyler Smith’s original claim)

  • Jason Merk

    I would love to see all things move to USB c, but i think Apple likes to stand out of the crowd and regardless of what is best for the customer, they will continue to use lightning.

    • MrUNIMOG

      Apple likes to do what they think is best for the customer, regardless of wether they stand out of the crowd with that.

      Lightning was the best solution available while Micro USB pretty much sucked.
      With USB-C the story is different, we may see Apple drop Lightning in favor of it or we may not, as both connectors have their advantages.

  • Mr. Pino

    Due to having it’s pins on the outside the lightning connector can easily short circuit. I’ve had 3 original Apple cables burned. Just leave the cable in the wall socket, and one day you will short circuit it because something else laying on your desk will short circuit the pins. Don’t say it can’t happen, it happened to me 2 times … until I realized this design flaw, tested it by burning a third 😉

  • timothytripp

    I was concerned that the USB C port might be too thick for an iPhone, but comparing the Lightning port on the bottom of my iPhone 6S to the USB-C port on the new Apple TV I was surprised to see that the hole is exactly the same size. The USB-C port has the connector in the center so it would be considered a male port and the cable would be the female (opposite of the Lightning port/cable) but given that, I’d say there’s absolutely no good reason for Apple not to make the switch. The 6 and 6s were just a little early to make that switch, but I think it’s inevitable and would really open up possibilities of what you could do with an iOS device.

    Honestly, for charging it’s time to go with Qi wireless charging (or at least a proprietary wireless charging). It’s fast enough and Apple’s already got the Apple Watch wireless charging. Sure hope they include that in the 7 and 7s (and iPads) so we can start to move away from external ports altogether.

    BTW: Brockerhoff’s statement that “the pins are so small that no current plug/connector manufacturer allows the 2A needed for iPad charging.” only applies to micro USB not to USB-C. The Apple MacBook already charges via USB-C at 14.5V 2A (29W) and theoretically the spec allows for up to 20V 5Amps (100W).