Apple A8 (mockup 001)

The general consensus among watchers and analysts regarding the engine powering the next iPhone(s) is that Apple will use an in-house designed A8 processor (reportedly clocked at 2Ghz per core). And that’s about everything we know thus far about the chip.

We’re still left in the dark as to how many processing and graphics cores the A8 might incorporate and we’ve been certainly wondering a lot about the amount of the chip’s RAM. According to a leaked schematic, the iPhone 6 will remain stuck with the same 1GB of RAM as past three models…

Update: As noted in MacRumors forums, the drawing references DDR and NAND, which could suggest that “it more likely refers to some aspect of the device’s flash memory rather than DRAM included within the A8 chip”.

Furthermore, the PN65V model number seen on the technical drawing seems to the PN65 component by a company called NXP, which is basically a Near-Field Communication (NFC) chip for mobile devices.

That’s according to an alleged schematic posted on Weibo by Chinese Apple repair firm GeekBar [Google Translate] and relayed by GforGames.

Though GforGames noted it was unable to confirm veracity of the rumor, the publication underscored the source’s credibility:

We should also note that, in the past, GeekBar has been an active source as far as leaking pics depicting internal Apple hardware components, indicating that the source might have strong connections within Apple’s supply chain.

For reference, the iPhone 5, iPhone 5c and iPhone 5s each has 1GB of RAM. Though Apple never specifies the amount of RAM on iOS devices, software tests and chip analysis by semiconductor researchers like Chipworks help answer that question.

iPhone 6 (1GB of RAM, Geekbar 001)

As a rule of thumb, the more RAM an iOS device has, the smoother the multitasking is because additional processes can remain active and fewer page swaps occur between the fast RAM and much slower flash storage.

On the other hand, because Apple engineers both the hardware and the software under the same roof, iOS from the onset has been optimized for low memory footprint.

It’s therefore not surprising that iPhones with 1GB of RAM run just as smooth, if not smoother, than high-end Android devices that typically incorporate 2 gigs of RAM, such as the Samsung Galaxy S5 and HTC One M8.

For the sake of completeness, I should point out that the iPhone 6 would definitely benefit from more than 1GB of RAM.

Although current iOS 8 betas appear to use fewer memory resources than iOS 7, the upcoming operating system update is extensive and allows developer to create software keyboards and system-wide app extensions, which could potentially add up to the overall RAM use.

Therefore, I hope this rumor is false and that the A8 will have twice the RAM compared to its A6 and A7 counterparts. What’s your take?

  • JulianZH

    1GB of ram… that mean the browser will keep reloading whenever i change tab…

    • Tony Trenkle Jr.

      I HATE that! On the ipad I’ll be watching a video in Safari and I thought I could go back to it…nope! reloads…I hope it has more RAM especially for the keyboards..

    • I’m an analyst and this “supposed spec sheet” is for the new Apple watch. The two new Apple phones will have more RAM than their previous models.

      • Antzboogie

        I hope so 🙁

      • Brian 

        Hey I’m an analyst too, I throw out rumors as well without any actual credible evidence.

      • kadeem kadz Dulice

        lool

    • Star Lord

      🙁

    • Maxim∑

      unused RAM is wasted power, that’s why iOS/Stock* Android doesn’t include a “close all” in multi-tasking. Apple could have went to DDR4 RAM.

      iPhone is ok with 1GB I think its more iPad that needs 2GB

      • Manuel Molina

        Android does have a close all button on their task button when you home down the home. Apple doesn’t, but that’s because you don’t need to kill task for the ram to release itself. When you open so many apps, the oldest apps release the ram on the state being saved. They will still be open, but you won’t see lag. Android doesn’t have that and that’s why you see lag. iPhones rarely lag unless you installed something horrible from cydia or delete a main file from the iPhone using ifile

  • I have never owned a device that has this low of a RAM so I don’t know if it is extremely bad or not.

    • Star Lord

      Don’t worry about it being bad because A8 with even 1GB Ram will be badass. Only problem i think is reloading of tabs on Safari.

  • Роман Жихаревич

    “As a rule of thumb, the more RAM an iOS device has, the smoother the multitasking is because additional processes can remain active and fewer page swaps occur between the fast RAM and much slower flash storage.”

    iOS doesn’t use swapping, because it harms flash storage.

  • David Gitman

    I think they should put at least 4GB+ of RAM. Whats the point in having 64BIT cpu without 4GB+ RAM?

    • Because we don’t have android thats overkill.

      • David Gitman

        I hate android, but still. why not give the device more RAM?

      • So do I but more ram equals more power consumption, 2 is fine but 4 is definitely overkill, pure bragging rights. In the end the 5S easily keeps up with Android devices sporting 2 and 3Gb so having that much is not necessary.

      • David Gitman

        so the 64bit is only a gimmick?

      • Eric Castro

        yes, the only benefit of 64 bit in current generation is future-proofing the app ecosystem, making them 64bit ready for when the RAM actually goes higher than 4GB. today is only part of a marketing strategy.

      • Maxim∑

        ARMv8 actually is a pretty huge benefit on its own

      • Eric Castro

        correct but my point is that no true benefit comes from 64bit at this moment, except for what I said (future-proof). the true benefit will be seen when devices come with +4GB of RAM

      • yoshikami

        Besides the bandwidth and calculation accuracy improvements of using 64-bit, and yes future-proofing the phone, a major benefit from switching to the ARMv8 instruction set was also being able to finally toss away a lot of the old legacy instructions and enable ‘out-of-order execution’. Combined with the 64-bit architecture, it allows the CPU to continue working on other tasks instead of wasting precious CPU clocks having to wait for the previous task to complete. Overall saving power, while improving the phone’s efficiency, responsiveness, and performance.

        Despite that i would still prefer more RAM in the phone. Especially as video standards shift to 4K and websites continue to get more content heavy, without increases in RAM iOS phones would have to either limit buffering and rely on internet speeds while constantly dumping anything that is not on-screen, or make more use of swapping to flash storage.

      • n0ahcruz3

        Thank you! Atleast one is not blinded by apple marketing hype.
        Ops wrong reply. this is for eric castro.

      • Umut Bilgiç

        Nope.

    • Jeffrey Feuerstein

      Hahahahaahhaahahhaha 4 gigs?

    • Chetan

      And how about 32Gb ram?? N octa-core processor?? Multiple display support?? And how about a blu-ray drive??

      Grow up kid..!!

      • David Gitman

        You dont need to get mad about it.. I just asked a question

      • Edgar C.

        Isn’t that a Galaxy you’re describing?

      • n0ahcruz3

        Chill dude he is only expressing his opinion.

      • David Gitman

        Yeah thanks for understanding man

  • Shingo

    128GB RAM bro……

  • Hopefully the iPhone 6 will have 2 or 3gb of ram. I hope this rumor is false.

  • I highly doubt this. Its way to low even for Apple. I think 2Gb is the minimum especially since they are more focused on gaming/multitasking and productivity this time around.

  • hkgsulphate

    tbh the 5s is already very fast…..work on the battery instead

    • Husam Hamed

      it’s not just about speed. Think of real actual multitasking! like playing something from youtube in the background! or use multiple safari tabs without reloading… etc.

  • Sean Cua

    People keep asking for more ram but that would use up more battery.

    • Manuel Molina

      Thank you for being the only one who understands that logic.

      More ram = battery huggers

    • n0ahcruz3

      Low ram = lag, slow apps, more crashes.

      • Steven Honey

        perfect ram = perfect phone = iPhone 5s

      • n0ahcruz3

        I respect your subjective opinion on what is perfect. 🙂

      • Steven Honey

        Haha. Well. For me the 5s so far , has been the smartphone to come the closest to perfect. I have the galaxy s5 now. I like the larger Cristal clear display waterproof, and the 4k recording camera, but everything else feels cheap/ thriwn togeather without alot of thought compared to apple. The Biggest disappointment for me with this s5 is the Internet browser not easily going into full screen when rotated into landscape. It’s annoying as hell. Especially if you had to scroll down far to get to the video.

      • n0ahcruz3

        I never really like samsung, their screen excellent that for sure. I like their ultra power saving mode. Im using a Moto G right now its got decent battery life. I sold my 4s to buy this, so far im pretty satisfied. I need an iOS device so i’ll probably get the new iPhone 5.5″ (if real)

      • Sean Cua

        im just saying pick one. longer battery or more ram. i dont think apple will supply both.

      • n0ahcruz3

        How bout apple stop bullshitting with how thin their device is put more juice and faster processor?

  • Lame

    These analysts talk so much BS! They aren’t experts on anything. With all these analysts and their ‘sources and findings’ flying around with every prospect under the sun. Then when one of them manages to luckily strike in they claim they are pro. GTFO! Obviously if you place bets on every possible outcome someone is gonna get it right. That doesn’t make you good at anything though.

  • Jonathan

    I feel 2 GB of RAM will be the new standard for Apple. While yes, 1 GB still really kicks hard, it still isn’t enough for satisfaction. I have 256 MB of RAM and 512 MB of RAM in my iDevices and at the time, I thought 256 was amazing, and then 512 was just blown away. Now 512 is barely enough, and with 256 MB of RAM, it feels like 255 MB is used for iOS 6 itself.

  • Noah Mospan

    Calm down, the schematics refer to NAND and DDR. It’s most likely for the flash memory rather than the DRAM for the new A8 processor.

  • Ariel

    All the ram in the world doesn’t stop an Android from lagging. Ive got a JB’ed 4s with 512mb ram, never really had any problems. Conclusion – its all in the software! (well, mostly…)

    • Luis Barbosa

      gotta have it with 7.1+ and not many tweaks installed

  • Mohammed

    Macrumors said the schematic’s references DDR and NAND suggests that it more likely refers to some aspect of the device’s flash memory rather than DRAM included within the A8 chip.

  • Matt Taylor

    If this is true… Bye bye Apple. I hope the media rip the sh!t out of them…

  • Dan

    It better not, my iPhone and iPad drive me crazy, pages reloading all the time. Apple is supposed to be premium.

  • Eli Montoya

    Apple your freakin cheapskate

  • Star Lord

    Why can’t they be old times? When Apple’s iPhone hardware was badass and all the other OEM’s specification looks infinitesimal in front of it.

  • felixtaf

    2GB RAM please. I HATE this rumour ;(

  • TeChNoStyLeZ

    year 2030 … iphone 12, –> 1 30 <– inch screen

  • Adham

    You should update your article with the 9to5mac info saying this rumor is unlikely.

  • Lhu

    it doesn’t suprise me, owning an iphone 4s for more than 2 years now I dont see the need to upgrade

  • mikehuntertz

    RAM will either be 2GB/larger or Apple will see at least one customer (that has been loyal since the iPhone 2g) moving to check out an Android device. If this is true, it seems that Apple is only concerned about making the devices thinner & disregarding what their customers actually want. Bigger battery, more RAM, or see ya.

  • Umut Bilgiç

    Guys guys no! More power does not necessarily mean more power consumption. Like every other IC DRAM has both static and dynamic components. Ram uses very low power unless it is using the dynamic parts very oftenly and refreshing mass amounts of data. So you are not wasting power unless you are taking full advantage of if! ofcourse there is some battery being wasted on the ram like labeling and memory mapping or just basic partition, but it is nothing significant.

  • n0ahcruz3

    Oh the next leak will say “iphone will only come with 8mp” lol. I guess this years killer iphone feature is the screen size. Lmao i hope this is not true though.

  • Yujin

    We just need to wait and see and the thing is apple usually tweaks the software and hardware to work extremely well. More ram is welcome, but we won’t know till we get our hand on an actual real model

  • Steven Honey

    probably still a better overall performance than this piece of crap samsung gs5 i just got 2 months ago. the only think i like about it is the display and the ability to capture video in 4k. i have already sent one gs5 back because it was getting super hot and i wasn’t even using it, it was in my pocket…burning my leg.

  • eXoguti093

    Appleeee.. Stahhhppp…

  • BoardDWorld

    They’re still pushing 4gb on their Macbook Airs, it wouldn’t surprise me with all the other enhancements if we’re stuck with only 1gb this year. I would love to be wrong though!

  • nfinite

    at least give it 1.5 GB of RAM (even better if they give it 2GB) and with ios 8, hopefully we can get 800-900 MB free RAM after reboot..