WSJ: two big iPhones this year, Apple to abandon plastic iPhone 5c design

By , Jan 23, 2014

concept iPhone 6

Riding high on the iPhone 6 meme, The Wall Street Journal is reporting (or re-iterrating) that Apple will release two gaint-sized iPhone models this year and scrap the plastic iPhone 5c design. The new iPhones won’t have curved-screens (thank God!) and shouldn’t be expected this summer, as some misinformed analysts have said.

Contrary to some previous reports, the financial newspaper is expecting one of the big iPhones to include a screen measuring four and a half inches diagonally. The other phone should be what you’d call a phablet, a device featuring a five-inch screen…

Reporters Lorraine Luk, Eva Dou and Daisuke Wakabayashi filed this story for WSJ in Hong Kong:

Apple plans an iPhone model with a screen larger than 4½ inches measured diagonally, and a second version with a display bigger than 5 inches. Until now, Apple’s largest phone has been the 4-inch display on the iPhone 5.

They’ve learned this from people familiar with the situation, in case you’re wondering.

Both large-screened iPhones are said to feature metal casings like that on the current flagship iPhone 5s, are expected in the second half of this year and won’t have curved-screen design.

The smaller of the two models is further along in development, and is being prepared for mass production, the people said. The larger-screen version is still in preliminary development, they said.

As for the iPhone 5c, expect Apple to kill off that model, presumably amid weak reception. Specifically, Apple is expected to “scrap the plastic exterior used in the iPhone 5c,” the article mentions.

There has been some commotion around the jumbo-sized iPhones meme.

But consider that bigger screens are particularly popular in China, Apple’s second-largests market and a priority for the company. Besides, enjoying one’s apps and media is more pleasing on a bigger canvas, as is typing on the virtual keyboard.

Earlier today, we passed along an analyst note claiming Apple had locked down the design of the next iPhone.

Specs are said to include a 4.8-inch display and 802.11ac Gigabit Wi-Fi networking. The note specifically advised against an iPhone with a screen size exceed five inches due to Apple’s “unwavering principle of one hand use.”

Anyone still having any doubts that bigger iPhones are coming?

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  • Lionelle

    I guess we should expect a higher price range too then.

    • Quinten Janssen

      i hope not

    • chris125

      Eh not really. The android devices got larger screens and beefed up specs and price hasn’t risen. Apple will charge the same prices as usual

      • Virus

        In the UK the price always goes up was £450 iPhone 4, £529 for iPhone 5 now £549 for iPhone 5s

    • Blahfoe

      I will except a higher price range if they give me a larger capacity for storage. Four instance 128 gig capacity would definitely be needed for phone that size in with the video quality expected of the new iPhone 6.

      • chris125

        Agree. Make 32gb the minimum and add a 128gb for those who need it and are willing to pay

  • felixtaf

    iPhone 6 should be an improved iPhone 5S – 4″.
    Kill the damn 5c…
    Bring the bigger iPhone Pro with 32gb storage…
    Everyone is happy…

  • Gróf Attila

    If it gets bigger I expect at least 3 days battery otherwise NOT buying.

    • Lionelle

      Battery Life is definately something they should also focus on.

    • iBanks

      For what? I’m sure you and pretty much everyone else charge their devices every night anyway.

      • RarestName

        Nope. The reason why people do that is because battery life on current smartphones suck. There, I said it.

      • iBanks

        Right…

      • http://andriyg.com/ AndriyG81

        Me and my friend charge our 5s every 2 days. Of course every person has a different needs and usage habits.

      • Technocrz!

        In this case you are not using it right.

      • http://andriyg.com/ AndriyG81

        maybe I am just holding it wrong…

    • DopamineAddicted

      That is what Mophie Juice Packs are for

      • gittlopctbi

        For me, though, I don’t like cases. I like full body skins to keep the slim profile of my phone. I would love to not have to use an external battery case.

    • Carlos Gomes

      3 days?!
      I demand at least a week!!1!1

  • Guest

    Can’t wait to watch their ad for it “we added an extra row of apps”

    • Dev Shah

      This time it would be an extra row as well as an extra column of Apps.! :P

  • Priyank Nauni

    Yup better kill 5C as it was never a cheap version .. after 5C every plastic stuff price went high …

    • Angel Matias

      Just keep in mind that Apple never said it would be cheaper. Media set us up for that, hoping It would be cheaper. Just saying…it’s not cheap for sure

      • Dallas Groot

        But at the same time, It is still cheap, You see, the iPhone 5 Retails just slightly less then what the 5S does (full price) where the 5C is about 100 dollars less then what the 5 was. Making it a cheaper phone. Apple did it right by doing this. Aluminium is more expensive to craft with then the Plastic they used.

      • RarestName

        I wish that they’d release the iPhone 5s with the plastic body of the iPhone 5c. The iPhone 5s feels so fragile.

      • Angel Matias

        Cheap, I guess to everyone it has it’s own definition lol. But, cheaper, definitely, won’t argue w/ you on that. And you’re right, bought the 5 and saw that the 5S is just a little more, that’s how it is. Waiting on the 6 now

  • Guest

    iPhone 6 & iPhone 6XL

    • John

      Idiot.

  • Steve Jobs

    “You win some… and then you win some more.”

  • http://twitter.com/int3nsive Int3nsive

    Two big iPhones. I don’t think so.

    1 bigger model and one that will keep the same size, that’s the only thing that makes sense.

    Plastic iPhone. If it’s not to make it significantly cheaper and kill the iPod touch to make more sense, then forget about the “c” models Apple.

    More than colors, some people can’t afford for any iPhone and that it’s the biggest pie of the chart that you’re losing.

    • Juan Herrera

      They could easily drop price on the 5s and achieve the keeping one device at the same size. Also, they know their consumers aren’t partial to plastic ( especially to save money when they make so much already). People pay more for premium materials. That being said, if they can’t manufacture the devices without a loss in profits per device, those prices will likely stay out of reach on any New device..

  • ɑղժɾҽա

    That concept image looks sexy.

  • DtownBlogger

    I knew the iPhone 5c wouldn’t last. Too gimmicky. Not apple’s finest work by a LONG shot! But hey, everyones bound to make a few mistakes. : /

    • Andy

      If the 5c costed less, like the current iPhone 4s price, I think it would have been a lot more popular. But for a 100 bucks more, you can get a 5s, so of course most people will opt for the the newest phone.

      • Kurt

        “newest phone”…technically both are the newest phones….but one is not really the newest phone, as you said!

    • Virus

      If the iPhone 5c was Free and the iPhone 5s was $200 on a 2 year than I could see it doing okay but you might as well just spend that extra $100 more the 5s

  • Tony Trenkle Jr.

    I personally want the 5 inch one. Gaming will be better on it, Ibooks will be easier to read, and for us jailbreakers using Movie Box? Thats a steal! Is it just me or are we hearing these rumors really early this year? Prob just me, but waiting 8 more months for this is gonna be hard!

    • http://twitter.com/int3nsive Int3nsive

      That’s too close to the iPad Mini.
      I don’t think that Apple will join the crazy boat of the Phablets.

      • Andy

        I don’t see how a 4.8/5 inch screen can be compared to a 7.9 inch iPad mini.

      • http://twitter.com/int3nsive Int3nsive

        A 5 inch phone can’t fit in our pockets. So walking around with an iPad Mini or 5 Inch Phone would be almost the same…you would need almost a purse for that.. like the ladies do with the Galaxy Phones.

      • chris125

        Unless you wear skin tight skinny jeans, a 5″ phone easily fits in pockets. I had an s4 for a few months and it easily fit in my jean pockets and dress slacks

      • http://twitter.com/int3nsive Int3nsive

        Doesn’t feel very comfortable at all. The only jeans that will fit well and you can walk without noticing the phone it’s the ones with side pockets.. IMHO

      • chris125

        Not sure what jeans you are wearing but the regular boot cut blue jeans the s4 easily fit in. Maybe the skinny jeans I could see an argument but other than that not seeing it.

      • http://twitter.com/int3nsive Int3nsive

        Some jeans you can fit a 5inch phone in your pocket, but It doesn’t feel comfortable at all, specially when I try to sit somewhere… and usually I use regular jeans. I really hate tight jeans.

      • Snailpo

        Yeah i wear skinnies, and my S4 fits just fine.

      • Kurt

        He wears spandex. So you know…

      • gittlopctbi

        You must have very small pockets. :) My friends who have Galaxy’s slip theirs in their pockets quite easily.

      • Andy

        “You must have very small pockets”
        That’s what she said

      • Kurt

        stop wearing skinny jeans…you’re a guy. no need to show off your curves. a 5.7″ screen on the note 3 fits in my pocket no problem. Only one pair of jeans do I notice the phone in there. Maybe when you get a little older and taller you will see that a 5 inch phone is not big. Besides, S4 and iphone are almost the same size.

      • http://twitter.com/int3nsive Int3nsive

        so are you saying that 185cm, 85kg is not working? oh shi…ttt.. maybe I need to start to eat mcdonalds then. thanks for your bright advice kurt, as always.

      • Dan

        There’s a big difference between 5′ and 7.9 inches. Imo 5 inches is not phablet territory yet. Here’s hoping they have two options.

      • Quinten Janssen

        i agree. 4.5 to 5 inches is IMO called a big phone. A phablet is 6 inches

      • http://twitter.com/int3nsive Int3nsive

        5 inch above people look ridiculous talking with their phones. I think that it’s even worst than taking pictures with iPad or other tablets…

      • Dan

        You’re pushing it a bit, nothing is more ridiculous that people taking pictures with an iPad ;)

        Anyhow, you certainly have a right to your opinion. Personally, 5 inches and a thin bezel to me is perfectly acceptable.

      • chris125

        No note sized devices are a little ridiculous to call on. Have you ever even used or actually held an s4? It isn’t really that much larger than an iPhone and especially not that large when talking on.. I think you’re confused and are thinking of the note line of devices.

      • http://twitter.com/int3nsive Int3nsive

        In the company where I work we test a lot of devices. And yes, the NOTE line are ridiculous big to call on. The S4 has a really great display but I think that it’s too big for a daily use… For me the perfect size would be something between the iPhone 5(s) and the S4. And apple should reduce the bezel as much as they can.

        But let me clarify, Im not against a bigger iPhone, what I fear is that Apple loses their mind and stop making phones at the 4 inch range. I don’t like the iPhone 5 aspect ratio and I think that he should be a little bit larger. I always said this since the day one.

      • Tony Trenkle Jr.

        The apps though are specifically made for the Ipad wont be on the iphone though. And actually if we’re gonna make that point then why is there an Ipad mini? Too close to the regular Ipad. Same argument could be made for that.

      • Snailpo

        If they did do this it would probably decrease iPad mini sales, because i can technically do everything an iPad mini can do, plus more. Like phone calls, full phone services etc.

      • Tony Trenkle Jr.

        But as long as sales in general are good I Dont think it matters. We dont hear how many Ipad mini’s are sold we just hear how many Ipads. And I guess Samsung doesnt have this issue or they dont care because they have screen sizes of all kinds. Customers like different screen sizes so I dont think it will hurt as many sales as we think.

      • chris125

        Apple isn’t afraid to cannabalize sales of their own devices. As long as people are buying apple devices they are happy and would rather them buy I phones as they have higher profit margin

    • hkgsulphate

      iPad mini <—

  • Eihab Khan

    Apple should be careful not to pass their pinnacle, A phablet?!….. that’s not Apple, 4.5 inch should be good

  • Jason Baroni

    My problem with the 5c is not the plastic itself, but the way the glass is assembled in the housing. I am on my 2nd 5c and this is presenting the same “bouncing” screen issue as before.

  • Lordthree

    The only way Apple will release a large size phone is if it coincides with the release of an iWatch. They can say “use the watch so you don’t have to take this giant ass phone out of your pocket.”

    I need a 4 inch iPhone. I refuse to go bigger. If the smallest they release is 4.5, what an I supposed to do? Switch to android?

    • Quinten Janssen

      android and small phones?

    • Snailpo

      hahahahaha the first part was pretty funny xD as for the second part, i prefer a bigger phone so i can get more out of my screen, my parents including other “older” people have also gone to bigger screen phones like the galaxy note. Old people want bigger screens as well so that they can see. Apple wants to be able to serve all of their customers.

      • Lordthree

        I think old people use iPad and iPad mini. I don’t see the demand accept among young kids

      • Snailpo

        Older people must have phones though? They can’t just use iPads and minis

    • pizentu

      Do you feel obligated to buy every new iPhone that comes out? Your current phone will still work after the release of a newer version.

      I assure you, that unless you have the hands of a newborn, a 4.5 inch iPhone wont be as horrific as you make it out to be.

      You arent hoping ship to Android. Apple knows people like you will buy whatever they slap an apple icon on. They want to bring back all those that abandoned them when they refused to make larger screens. People like me. Once they release a 5 inch screen, I will come back. Till then I am happy with my Note 2. Though my contract is up this year and if they want my business, they better bring the bigger screen this year. Otherwise it will be another 2 years before I look at them again.

  • chris125

    Hopefully they put same internals in both and not high end in the 5+” device and give the smaller variant lesser specs

    • Mike Colacone Saal

      I could see them adding the same specs to both.. look at the air and mini

  • ic0dex

    I will pay $500 on a 2 year contract if they make a bigger iPhone. I dumped my iPhone 5 for the Note 3 and its because I was just sick of the small screen and zooming on everything just to read and article. I personally think 5″ is the perfect size and I will be a happy Apple customer once again. I’ve been using my Note 3 for well over a month now and when I get my Wife’s iPhone 5 I feel like a giant holding a toy phone, it feels so tiny.

    Also the Android OS is so incomplete its just crap compared to iOS. It’s funny how the Note 3′s processor and RAM is 3X more powerful then the iPhone 5 or 5S but yet the iPhone still runs way better on lowers specs. Anyways I can’t wait for the new iPhone to come out and I also think that they will change the name too it won’t be the iPhone 6 anymore.

    • Snailpo

      I agree with you. Androids software really isn’t to bad, it does however slow down. There is just so much that gets packed into androids devices after a while unlike Apple. Because apple has made their devices so “locked down” this prevents from 3rd party software clogging up your devices unlike android. But you have to give some to get some i suppose. Thats why when you jailbreak some iPhones after a while it just becomes so cluttered it starts to slow down the phone.

      • ic0dex

        You’re completely right. I mean there was so much crap I’m my Note 3 when I first got it. Also when it comes to multitask apple takes the cake on this but you’re on point with the iPhone and it being cluttered When you jailbreak it. Personal with IOS 7 I really don’t see the point of jail breaking anymore. I bet with ios 8 they will completely take out Jailbreaking.

  • SweetAppleiPhoneRepair

    I’m really hoping this doesn’t turn into some stupid phablet war between Apple and everyone else. They’re better than that. Yeah, a slightly larger display would be nice, but the last thing I want is to be carrying around a f**king GS size slab of metal in my pocket… Especially since I’m already planning to pick up a Retina iPad mini this year.

    • Kurt

      If you are getting a mini, you don’t need a big phone. If you don’t want to carry two devices you need a big phone. Now do you understand why people want phablets? I have a iPad Air for home, and my Note 3 for everywhere else.

  • Tobias9413

    They shouldn’t go for the 5 inch. I feels it’s too big. The 4.5 would be fine. Plus this would cause trouble for the App Devs. Releasing two different size phones in one year means Devs wont be as happy to make apps exclusively for iPhones. I mean the 4 inch just came out two years ago with the i5 and some apps haven’t been fully updated yet. Imagine making three different sizes for your app. It’s already a pain in the ass with androids because they have a bunch of different sizes.

  • n0ahcruz3

    Thank goodness i skipped 5/5s, i didnt really like that design. Bigger screen & longer battery life. And please not 720p wtf if they did.

    • AndroidDogHeatandSteelersFan

      i doubt it. everything is retina from here on out. they have the tech. except the batteries.

      • n0ahcruz3

        Everything is retina? Why are they still selling ipad 2? Ipad mini is not retina when it was first unveiled. While everyone is putting out 1080p hd at that time. Every manufacturer has HD everything or 2k,4K. While apple is stuck at 326ppi. But i hope you’re right tho. About batteries apple should increase tha Mah. 1450mah just wont cut it. They want to maintain that slimness of their devices but suffers battery life.

      • AndroidDogHeatandSteelersFan

        they are still selling ipad 2 because people still buy it, that is why they said during the wwdc. Because at that time they didn’t have the technology to have stability performance within the ipad line products. Apple is not stuck at 326ppi, that is what is best for users at that time and may still be best as these are mobile devices, not home entertainment centers (tv). Yes I agree Apple should increase it, but Apple is one of the few companies that squeeze the most sustainable battery juice in that amount of size. Just to let you know the technicians doesn’t just blow off battery. The os handles it well if you didn’t know. Other companies or manufacturers may not even have a battery type like department. Bigger battery = longer charge, if you ever had an ipad or know someone ask them. not really the best thing. But would be nice for a bump. Wait for liquid metal, i think they rumored to run up to 15-24 hours once turned into liquid metal cells or something.

      • Dao Sasone

        Plz search n find out what apple terms of “retina display” means.

      • AndroidDogHeatandSteelersFan

        I don’t have to. Retina is better than not Retina. And more pixels pi doesn’t mean much for small handheld devices. it only matters on bigger screen. Why would somebody watch a 4k on a small screen than compared to a big screen? I mean outputting it makes sense, but on a small display like that? It’s going to suck the battery dry of any smart devices. Not smart decision. I rather have balance in an OS.

      • Dao Sasone

        Gs4 support 1080 n rocks 440 ppi. With wifi and bluetooth while im playing videos I get around hrs min everytime. So obviously samsung is smarter then apple based on your comments. You will need higher ppi as the screen size increases. For clearer quality. The point of having biger and clearer screens is to improve viewing distance hence your tv. And were talking about apple upgrading size here. Retina is just a sales gimmick that apple uses to control all u sheeps that likes to pay for outdated tech. Its based on the average distance between them n their devices. Thats why apple still have that same ol 640 resolution on the 5s.

      • AndroidDogHeatandSteelersFan

        I know you need more PPI as the screen increase. Did you know the GS4 is larger than the iPhone 5? The iPhone 5 remains an HD view. Where did I say base on my comments that Samsung is better than Apple? Samsung is inferior in many ways. I never argued against you nincompoop that you did not need to increase it as screen increases. You don’t need any more PPI because the viewing distance from a mobile device is already high that the eye can see. And no shit you need higher PPI for a tv, thats why I pointed it out in my comment. Retina might be a gimmick to you, but it is a way to describe the resolution best the eye can see at reasonable viewing distance, and even then, it is still high definition. What’s wrong with the resolution? If it’s why Apple still have 640, doesn’t mean it’s outdated either. A lot of people are fine with it and some want it more technical than others and pursue different things like inferior devices like the GS4. You suck at rebuttals, just stop embarrassing yourself and finish your high school degree. /end convo.

      • Dao Sasone

        Aaawwww did the little boy got mad? Start calling people names. You have no ideal of my education level. Look who’s acting so childish. Did you finish your research? Took you long enough to reply. You replied as if “retina ” was dominant in display. You stated that its not smart to have a big screen and that it will suck the battery dry. Stating its dumb. Since samsung have both big screen and battery life they would be smart. This is based on your comment. I have the gs4 and also the 5s. If 640 resolution isnt outdated then why is apple looking to upgrade in sizes? And if they upgrade in size that means resolution and ppi needs to be boosted up too. 5s only remain in hd view at a certain distance from the user. Gs4 remain in hd view in greater distance because of its resolution and ppi. Apple just got you as one of their sheep. Thats why your so mad..

      • AndroidDogHeatandSteelersFan

        I am not mad and I did not do research to post to your meaningless rebuttal. I have a life and I do other things than just reading and positing comments. You should go outside instead of assuming what you already do, which is research but failing at it? C’mon. You are so incompetent to understand anything. I’m done with you trying to troll and prove your idiotic no common sense points. And if you are not in high school, why are you still acting like one? You don’t have to answer that because some people don’t grow up and can’t stand that others are right. Bye.

      • Dao Sasone

        Seems like some one got affended and deleted my comment haha. If you cant handle the truth then dont reply. Yea you got a life but yet I see you reply to almost every comments on this blog. Typical isheep in denial.

  • Abdl

    Oh thank God,please scrap off the plastic phone off the line of phones,i wonder why Apple brought them in in the first place.
    Phablet! Apple Please No,dont kill your market by making that,at least an ipad mini would suffice.

    • AndroidDogHeatandSteelersFan

      to extend a year and delay the excitement and testing for release of this years phone. duh! diversion lol

  • gittlopctbi

    I can’t wait. I definitely want a bigger screen and was disappointed when I had to stick with the 5 instead of going G3 or 4. A 4.7″ screen would still be perfect.

  • Abdl

    Offtopic;Anybody know if the developer of SemiRestore will create the tool for ios7?

    • leart

      I think he is still testing

  • Jason Dennery

    Any mention of an IGZO screen? Would definitely help with the battery life concerns with a bigger screen.

    • AndroidDogHeatandSteelersFan

      probably because the ipad air did.

  • Jonathan Rosga

    I’m not buying s*** from Apple until they make my iPhone look good again. I can’t stand iOS 7!! I rather have iOS 6 on my iPhone 5S!

  • leart

    imagine apple releasing a quad core with 4 gb of ram iphone :)

  • jack

    All I want is a decent battery, OBEX

    • AndroidDogHeatandSteelersFan

      whats obex

      • jack

        Bluetooth file transfer.. like all other phones have, even the old and cheap ones.

      • AndroidDogHeatandSteelersFan

        Yeah the old ones have bad BT security :( lol. Those nokia can hack through bluetooth.