5s isight camera

Although the iPhone 5s has only been out for about 4 months now, next-gen iPhone rumors are already ramping up. The handset, believed (for right now, anyway) to be called the iPhone 6, has been widely reported to feature a larger display and other improvements.

Today, a new report from China adds to the chatter by claiming that Apple’s next smartphone should see some camera improvements such as enhanced optical image stabilization. It also calls for the handset to retain the current 8-megapixel sensor for its iSight camera…

MacRumors passes on the report from The China Post:

“According to Nomura Securities, Largan’s recently lagging performance in the market is caused by rumors that Apple may adopt an 8 mega-pixel (MP) camera with improved optical image stabilization on its upcoming handset, instead of the 16 MP upgrade anticipated by industry observers. Apple’s decision is based on the design requirement to retain the handset’s more portable form factor, said Nomura Securities. […] 

Largan retains a leading edge among competing suppliers, as even though the camera’s pixel count remains the same, the company is among the few companies capable of coping with the complexity of the camera module, said Nomura Securities. The production of smaller-factored camera modules would require significantly improved optical aperture and resolution attributes, which are the company’s competitive strengths, said Nomura Securities.”

Apple first started using an 8-megapixel sensor in the iPhone’s rear camera back in 2011, with the iPhone 4s, and it used similar sensors in its iPhone 5 and 5c. The iPhone 5s also features an 8-megapixel camera, but utilizes several hardware and software enhancements.

Obviously, we’re still several months away from seeing the next iPhone, so there’s no way of knowing if Apple actually plans to keep the 8MP camera or not. If it does, I’m sure some folks will be disappointed, despite the fact that it’s been proven that the MPs don’t matter.

Thoughts?

  • Guest

    I hope Scamsung put a 16megapix in the Galaxy S5 so Apple will have to upgrade

    • Umut Bilgiç

      Alaxy s4 camera is already f’ed up if they made it to 16mp, it would go down hill pretty bad.

    • paul

      Samsung can put as many megapixels as they like it still wont make a difference to apple 8mp sensor

    • Nate McKelvie

      Megapixels mean NOTHING when it comes to picture quality. The only difference between 8 mp and 16 mp is how big the image can be printed before losing quality. And Samsung should work on making their cameras better instead of just adding more megapixels. Have you seen the camera on the note 3. I’m pretty sure it’s 13 mp and the quality of the picture SUCKS! I run a mobile gadget store and I sell camera accessories for pretty much every phone. I play with all the major phones on a daily basis. And the iPhone 5s is as good if not better than any phone on the market I’ve seen. Some phones have optical zoom and can zoom better, and some like the Nokia might have slightly better low light but that’s definitely debateable

      • Nate McKelvie

        In fact Nokia just had a booth here at pier 39 advertising how good the Nokia phone cameras are and they did a “put your phone up against our Nokia” and my galaxy 4 took better photos than most of the Nokia and my iPhone 5s blew them out the water even in the low level light scenario, but I will admit the people running the booth obviously were very unknowledgeable about photography so it wasn’t truly a fair competition

      • Adam Bowman

        I’m not too sure that it means “nothing.” Think about cropping. It would be great if I could take a pic of my kids (or any subject) from a distance and later crop the photo without a significant loss of resolution. More MPs would give me that ability. I would love to have the same great photo quality of current iPhones with more megapixels, and, if possible, an improved video resolution.

        Wouldn’t it be great if the next model iPhone could give us the option of switching between 8 and 16 MPs?

        Anyway, I’m hoping they increase the MPs. In fact, I’m kind of expecting it.

      • mehrab

        I have used a lot of the big players smartphones so i know all about their cameras smasung cameras are okayish nexus5 and htc one is meh. Nokia in some cases like with the 920 oversaturates pictures the only good phones for taking photos are the 5s and 1020 i like the cropping ability on my 1020 more then the 5s but other then that i like every camera related thing on the 5s better and ofcourse the whole phone too

      • Umut Bilgiç

        Well forst thing forst, you can not just go ahead and increase megapixels. To maintain image quality, you need to increase lens and the sensor size as well. In this case, we already now that iphone is one of the, if not the most, compact phone out there. Making it lighter and thinner is already such a huge design process priority. Take a look at Nokie Lumia 1020 for example. It has that gigantic, absolutely monsterous sensor at the back. You can not even put the phone flat on top of the table! It is obveous that Apple would not go for such a thing nor they will cram in 41 megapixels. 8-12 megapixels is a sweet spot for a smartphone, at least with the technology is capable as of today.

        And, better video resolution? Iphones record 1080p video at 30fps, and 720p video at 60 fps. With the 5s, you have the 120fps. But, anyways, unless 2K-4K becomes the gold standart, putting in a 4K recorder is nothinh more than a gimmick.

      • Nate McKelvie

        Exactly what I said, it has nothing to do with picture quality other than HOW big it can be printed! And I doubt it will be anything over 12 mp at max because you can’t just increase megapixels and keep the same quality photo, that’s why other phones with more megapixels take such crappy photos

      • xSeriouSx

        Very well put! Here, have an up vote.

    • Ted Forbes

      Check out the Apple imaging hitech, big numbers does not matter. In fact it might be opposite soon where smaller is better. Check it out for yourself.

  • Thiago Vaccaro

    ENOUGH, APPLE.

    • Carlos Gomes

      Yeah!! We want 6000px wide pictures to post on facebook!1! YOLO!

      • and out filters on it YOLO <3

  • Umut Bilgiç

    I do not really carr about megapixels if it is already over 5. 8 is nice, 13 would be good, but then they will have to ircrease the size of the sensor. All i want is great low-light performance, and better image stabilization atm.

    • Matheus Lisboa

      Don’t really understand why people care so much about MP… Not that important…

      • Andrew von Pikrt

        Cause they don’t know the first thing about photography, read on some “tech blog”, that MPs are the key to everything and then advertise it as their knowledge. (even tho they obviously have none)

        The same as with many topics concerning Apple vs. Samsung vs. Nokia “discussions”, I’m sick of these MP debates and am ignoring it for the sake of my mental health.

    • mehrab

      5s does a great job at both of those tasks atm

  • Kenny Woodard

    iPhone 5SS?

    • Jonathan

      It better now..

    • GuyBey0ndC00L

      iPhone 5sc

  • S. Khikmatullaev

    Apple Has to improve camera MP 8 to 10 minimum

    • Maxim∑

      iPod touch 5th gen has a 5MP camera, its literally better than the Nexus 5’s

      • mehrab

        That is actually true lol except the flash is abit better in most cases on the nexus 5

      • Ryan W

        The iPod touch 6th generation may get and 8mp camera as well

    • Carlos Gomes

      Why do you need bigger image files?

      • Rowan09

        Especially when pictures and videos take up so much space.

      • Rickm_jr

        Haha, so much space, everything is moving to bigger files. Sooner or later we’ll be throwing terms like “terabyte” around like they’re nothing. There was a time when a 40MB HDD was a big deal

      • Rowan09

        I know it’s crazy

  • Ryan W

    At least i don’t care about megapixels

    I just want a useable camera

    not only apple will keep 8 megapixel but keep the processor dual core with 1 gb of ram

    they did this with the 5s they are just telling everyone that specs mean NOTHING when it comes with innovation

    but a camera that shoots 4k video like the note 3 is important when it comes with resolution

    If samsung puts a 1 GIGAPIXEL camera that shoots 6k (which is impossible)

    apple could do the same

    not even a terra pixel or yottapixal (if there is such thing as both) could fix everything but apple will fave an f 1.8 aperture just for the low light or bigger µ pixels

    even a 1 million core processor can make a difference (i don’t know but 1 million cores is a bit much)

    The cameras and processors are fine and i just want a useable phone

    • Rowan09

      Hope you know the 5s is faster than almost if not all those quad core phones. Do you own a 4k monitor or tv so why would you need it on a mobile camera? The Note 3 doesn’t have image stabilization when shooting 4k so it’s just something to brag about that doesn’t work well.

      • Ryan W

        But apple can take influence of samsung
        Apple once took influence of samsung 100%

      • Rowan09

        What I’m saying is 4K on the Note 3 works with image stabilization which makes it useless. It’s a feature that’s on the phone that isn’t good at all, it’s just a stat sheet filler. 4K tv are crazy expensive right now so even if I can shoot a 4K video I wouldn’t be able to take advantage of it without the proper screen.

      • Ryan W

        I won’t tell a difference of 4k and 1440p without a 4k tv which should have a significant price drop this year

      • Rowan09

        I won’t be purchasing one anytime soon until cable networks start supporting 4k and the price drops to $700-$1000

  • R4

    Just because people complained about the S5 article doesnt mean you have to post an article on completely wild and most likely made up rumors.

  • GuyBey0ndC00L

    Bigger Screen Apple pretty please

  • Andrew Lewis

    8MP is fine for a phone camera. Increasing the the number of pixels in such a tiny sensor is likely to decrease image quality rather than improve it. The enhancements come with improved sensors, lenses and software which appears to be what Apple is doing.

    Apple is doing the right thing – rather than the wrong thing just because it’s what the uninformed (or ill-informed) masses want.

  • lemonhead

    Personally I have to agree with the people here on this blog, I don’t care about the megapixel…
    it’s not like I wanted to show the pictures on my new 4k Flatscreen Tv which needs more pixel so the image looks half way good…
    small note: i wad obviously lying about having a 4k tv it’s not like i have 5000 bucks laying around in my yard :p

  • Rowan09

    I don’t know why anyone cares about MP when the Lumia is 41mp. Just improve the camera and I’ll be fine.

  • s0me

    Apple gonna release the same phone every year with unnoticeable changes and this will go on forever because of sheeps like you who praise and buy whatever they do. Ios will still be the same, no customization whatsoever, less software features for the old models. On the other hand this is great for the unbiased people who love tech because they gonna get something good in the end, the less sucessful companies will innovate as hard as possible because they are motivated to get into the spotlight.

    • Rowan09

      Umm. First off the 5s is an s model just like the S4, Note 3, HTC Max, etc. IOS 7 is a huge upgrade to any of the previous OS and the 6 is a big upgrade year so stop the nonsense. Pure Android looks basically the same since inception and didn’t add as much features when compared to how far IOS has come. These small companies you’re talking about killing with innovation where are they? What’s the last innovation on a phone since the first iPhone? I would have to say the fingerprint scanner and now 64 bits. Apple is fine we don’t need to brag about 8GB of ram and still move slower than a phone with a dual core and 1GB. Go to your Android blog and praise google over adding themes to your phone. If I need themes I just jailbreak and solution solved a lot of IOS and Android owners don’t even use themes so only a few care.

      • s0me

        Iphone 5 is not an S model, I own only IOS devices, I said the less sucessful companies WILL innovate I never said they did it dont read between the lines. 64 bit is a desperate move IOS is what Apple wants it to be, they dont really need better cpu’s every year, thats why it is not laggy like the android phones you “hate” so much.(the 4S on the first final release of IOS 7 was laggy as hell) IOS 7 has the control center and a modified task switcher + a new theme that most people dont like (I like it). Wake up see the reality. This discussion has ended for me.

      • Siddharth Desai

        I agree with your view in that iOS hasn’t changed much (may be aesthetically), but I like it that way and I am in no way an iSheep. You do get to customize Android in far more ways than iOS and while this may be a strong point for some, for me it is simply a non-essential feature of an operating system. People seem to forget that these things are just phones. I remember when I bough my first cell phone, a Sony W580, just a simple phone that can call and was decent for text messaging. I simply use an iPhone because it was my first smartphone and I am quiet used to it. It does what I need it to do and then some.

        Theming is overrated, sure it makes it look nice, but is it really making the phone better? Not for me. As long as I can call, send messages, email, browse web, some social media, I am good. I couldn’t care less about what my processor speed is or what how much random access memory it has or how many MP the camera it has.

      • Kash Gummaraju

        Please do tell me how Pure Android looks basically the same since inception? Show me how KitKat 4.4 and 1.0 look the same? Or even 4.0 and 4.4 for that matter? iOS has just changed, to neon colors, which aren’t applied in the best way either unlike windows phone.

      • Rowan09

        Dude are you serious. Since Gingerbread Android OS got themes (different UI), either smoother, NFC been around since 2.3, so was hotspot and closing individual notifications as been around since 2.3. What new features does Android have since 2.3? The truth is it’s been pretty much the same, themes been around since Froyo. Changing a theme or UI doesn’t it huge upgrades. IOS benefited from Android and the jailbreak community by adding a notification center, folders, control center, hotspot, multi-tasking, Siri and accessibility. The upgrade for IOS was greater because it lacked more features than Android did in its inception.

  • MrShutEmDown

    Dont know why people want a bigger megapixel phone… only to send the pictures to Instagram lol

  • People are so used to the “mega pixels” war
    Gimmick that they still think that MP on every camera it’s the only thing that matters.

  • Laszlo Gaspar

    I would like to see an upgrade but only if it will make a big difference, if not then its better if they just focus on making the device thinner.

  • Kenny Woodard

    The galaxy S4 camera is about as overblown as it gets. Yeah its got 13 megapixels.. But I’d take the iPhone 5 camera over it any day.

  • n0ahcruz3

    http://m.connect.dpreviewdotcom/post/5533410947/smartphones-versus-dslr-versus-film
    Its a 5s vs nokia 41mp vs older dslr. On why apple atleast needs to increase the mps.

  • Tim smith

    I don’t know I hope they bump it up abit. The camera still takes photos the same size as they were on the 4s. It leaves big gaps near the top and bottom. I don’t like that.

  • oralarts

    Yeah, we’re about 9 months from seeing iPhone 6. I’d say no one outside of Cupertino knows what’s in the next iPhone at this point. Pure speculation no matter the source.

  • N&LH

    If the number of megapixel does not matter. So I think Apple should really introduce new features in iPhone 6..

  • Curtis Morales

    there is no way that apple gonna stay with a 8mp camera, this would drive folks insane who actually care about the camera being 8mp for the past 3 gens!!!

    • N&LH

      The problem not number of megapixel

  • batongxue

    OIS please!

  • Saulo Chonay

    I just want them to let me choose ringtones for individual apps, let me attach any file to an e-mail in stock app, let me lock individual apps, share with bluetooth to any phone (music, pics, docs, from root…why not?)…after the last udpate from ios 6 to 7, there is not that much to add. I wouldn’t jailbreak if they did so…at least i wouldn’t.
    Lol…what am i going to do with 10,14, 16mp camera and a 32GB phone…music,videos…i dont care about the camera…front camera maybe some HD quality…people will never have enough.

    I’m ok for now.

    • mehrab

      Letting you attach files will often confuse users as most dont attach everything on their phone to their mail except pdf”s photos notes etc. Bluetooth is disabled for piracy reasons

  • Bob

    I’m sick of these camera upgrades. Who cares. Give us a bigger screen, IR blaster, NFC, Front facing speakers, 1080p screen, wireless charging, etc. INNOVATE, DON’T JUST IMPROVE.

    • s0me

      Hold your horses Bob, they dont not to innovate anymore they came with the biggest innovation of all time: the iphone and the isheep.

    • What’s innovative about all those things? If this is what you are waiting from Apple device you mind as well stop. All these things already exist for years and most of them are useless. There are plenty of manufacturers out there that put anything in their phones, regardless of the implementation. if you like to be a tester of new technologies that have no reason to exist but are doable technologically at this point, get a Samsung phone. To understand, how Apple designs and why it does what it does, I would suggest reading new Leander Kahney’s Jony Ive the Genius book. Though I understand that we all have our opinions and we all look for a different things from our devices I just think you might be sticking with the wrong manufacturer for what you need. Bigger Screen maybe for men with larger hands along side the 4inch. IR blaster 50 years old tech and a gimmick on the phone. NFC has been dead for long time and it’s never coming to iPhone, Apple adopted low power blue tooth 4.0 (ibeacon), 1080p screen totally unnecessary on 4 inch screen but may happen eventually just because of the content for mobile devices is getting higher in resolution and codacs are getting better with smaller file size. Wireless charging, YES this one will happen, but only when you don’t have to hook up your phone to the charging pad because at that point it doesn’t make any difference. That’s not innovation. It doesn’t solve the problem of plug and a wire. Just adds a pad at the end of it. Front facing speakers? Why ruin the look and feel for marginal improvement to Audio. HTC One sounds better then iPhone but it’s still a mobile phone sound with paper 2 mm thing speakers. There is a difference in between innovation and what’s technologically possible. Apple is there to solve real problems we have in our lives. Samsung is there to show us what they can cook up and produce in 20 days or less. Choose carefully, because grass is definitely not greener on the other side.

  • kelvis

    iphone 5c the same crap, iphone 5s the same shi**. Anyway we buy it, I’ll be buy it,

  • blastingbigairs

    Apple sticking to their guns, I love it. My 5s’s camera blows away the S4’s camera all day everyday.