Leaked documents show the NSA can gain nearly complete access to your iPhone

By , Dec 30, 2013

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In June of this year, Edward Snowden shocked the world by leaking a number of slides and documents and revealing that the NSA has backdoor access to the databases of 9 major tech companies, including Apple and Facebook. But as it turns out, its access may not be limited to software.

Since Snowden’s initial outing, there has been a number of subsequent reports and leaks. And the latest to garner gasps from the security community is that the NSA has the ability to intercept the delivery of a new computer or mobile device—including iPhones—and build in a remote backdoor…

Here’s the report from The Daily Dot:

“The U.S. National Security Agency has the ability to snoop on nearly every communication sent from an Apple iPhone, according to leaked documents shared by security researcher Jacob Appelbaum and German news magazine Der Spiegel. 

An NSA program called DROPOUTJEEP allows the agency to intercept SMS messages, access contact lists, locate a phone using cell tower data, and even activate the device’s microphone and camera.”

And here’s the document showing how DROPOUTJEEP works:

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And finally, here’s a video of a lecture on the research:

According to the leaked documents, the NSA claims a 100% success rate when it comes to installing spyware on iOS devices. For now, it does require physical access to the device for proper installation, but the scary part is, it’s reportedly able to reroute shipments of devices ordered online to get it.

The general consensus is that this is all made possible by one of two scenarios: either the NSA has a huge collection of exploits that work against Apple products, and they are withholding critical information about the company’s systems. Or, perhaps the more worrisome, Apple sabotaged it themselves.

Apple has emphatically denied reports that it’s involved in the NSA PRISM program, and it has joined other tech companies in pushing for greater transparency from the US government and its subsequent agencies on court-ordered user information requests.

So, what do you make of all of this?

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  • Giovanni Amadei

    I’m the only one who don’t care about NSA having all my information?

    • jocastro

      its about freedom, not you not caring about your information..

      • Giovanni Amadei

        I’m free even with NSA

      • ✪ aidan harris ✪

        That’s only because you don’t care that me as an NSA employee (I’m obviously not) can gain access to all of your contacts, SMS data, your physical location and activate your camera and microphone to listen and watch you right now. If you’re okay with that and to you that is the definition of ‘free’ then there’s obviously something wrong with you and nobody can change your mind as the damage has already been done…

      • Giovanni Amadei

        NSA can have access to all my data, so? What could change to my life? NSA isn’t my girlfriend, or a friend, or a parent, if they have my data for anything change apart if I’m a criminal, in that case it’s a good thing that NSA can spy me and get me arrested
        p.s. sorry for my english

      • CaffeinePizza

        I don’t think you want the NSA to hear you using the bathroom. That’s embarrassing.

      • KingKon_NL

        Having the illusion of freedom is not the same as actual freedom.

      • Vivek Raja

        America.. The country of freedom

      • Sin

        And it’s about privacy. In the past century we’ve gone from a nation of citizens, wherein one was acting within the law until they harmed or defrauded someone, to a nation if serfs who are fined and/or jailed for every petty “offense” authority can point to. How are you sheeple gonna feel about it when you begin getting letters in the mail ordering you to pay a fine because you said f**k in a private conversation? The gov is supposed to work for us and this NSA PRISM bulls**t clearly shows they think if us as property to be exploited. Our forefathers revolted against the crown, the most powerful force on the planet, over a 3% tax on tea. If they could see us now I bet they wouldn’t have bothered. We’ve failed.

      • ✪ aidan harris ✪

        Society in general has failed…

      • Antzboogie

        Well said man well said I agree.

    • http://benpike.net/ Ben Pike

      …and this is why we can’t have nice things…

    • Jamie

      No, there are plenty of Americans who are happy to give up their civil liberties in exchange for the illusion of safety. Just look at all these idiots people keep electing to office. It’s safe to say you are one of the millions of people who have allowed this country to become overrun by big government.

      • Umut Bilgiç

        People choose not to escape from the Pluton’s cave, government says inside is safe. Matrix is cool.

    • Alexander Swift

      I am with you Gio! really don’t care NSA will having all my info, my family info, nor my freak secret, and whatever! then once i forget something, it easily to ask them..Nice -.-

    • Antzboogie

      Wow the the dumbest statement of 2013 FREEDOM is important to me I do not need Daddy (the government) checking up on me. Actually controlling my mic and camera of my iPhone wow Im good!!

    • mav3rick

      No, many others like you. Mindless zombies users….

  • Tony Trenkle Jr.

    NSA cares more about our Iphones than it did about 9/11. Cool.

    • http://twitter.com/int3nsive Int3nsive

      But they cared about the 9/11 … that demolitions where so perfect that they must be very proud of their work.

      • Tony Trenkle Jr.

        Lol very true!

    • Caleb Youngblood

      Wrong They are snooping through peoples iPhones to prevent another 9/11 from happening again.

      • http://twitter.com/int3nsive Int3nsive

        Yes, sure… because “all bin Ladens” are Apple fanboys with iPhones in their pockets in the middle of the fking Afghanistan…

      • Caleb Youngblood

        I’m talking about possible terrorists that could be in America…….

      • http://twitter.com/int3nsive Int3nsive

        yes, starting with the CIA, NSA and other agencies that work for their own interests and the people that controls them.

      • Caleb Youngblood

        conspiracy nut job…..

      • http://twitter.com/int3nsive Int3nsive

        Exactly what they say. Its all “conspiracy” and the world it’s all fked up .. now imagine if it was not conspiracy…

      • Caleb Youngblood

        Do you have proof any conspiracy is true???

      • http://twitter.com/int3nsive Int3nsive

        Sure, everybody knows. Like the 9/11 with the most perfect demolitions we ever saw. When some people ask them.. they don’t know the answers.. go figure.. why.

        and like the pentagon camera that’s spot a huge explosion and not any airplane.

        one of the most protected places in the world only has a camera that records with like.. 5 frames per second… what a joke

      • Caleb Youngblood

        That is your word not proof……..

      • http://twitter.com/int3nsive Int3nsive

        Can you prove that was “bin Laden”?

      • Caleb Youngblood

        well ya if you have the ability to see with your eyes……………..

      • http://twitter.com/int3nsive Int3nsive

        lol.. you were one of the guys that dropped bin ladens body in the middle of the ocean right…? lolol..

      • Caleb Youngblood

        I guess anything to feed your conspiracy theory nut job mind right?

      • Caleb Youngblood

        The bottomline is you have no proof any conspiracy is true nothing else matters but that

      • http://twitter.com/int3nsive Int3nsive

        Says the guy with a lot of evidences because
        “the TV says so…”

        LOL

      • Caleb Youngblood

        Osama Bin Laden said so on a home made video he admitted to it………. A bunch of his people that are in al qaeda and the taliban also said they were the ones behind it…….

      • http://twitter.com/int3nsive Int3nsive

        They said to you in person or you saw that “evidences” on the TV…? Exactly…

      • http://twitter.com/int3nsive Int3nsive

        You can’t prove anything either. whats your point? Are you stupid or just a NSA troll?… maybe both I think

      • Caleb Youngblood

        Osama Bin Laden himself said in a video that he was the one behind it……….

        P.S I’m not a troll just speaking the truth….

      • http://twitter.com/int3nsive Int3nsive

        lol.. and just because he says or the government, you should trust them right? because they never lied to anyone right?

        Some people say that “bin Laden” was an CIA actor.. but maybe that people are just conspiracy crazy guys.

        And when the CIA admited that they faked some bin Ladens videos…maybe it was just a joke right?

      • Caleb Youngblood

        again that is your word not proof……..l

      • http://twitter.com/int3nsive Int3nsive

        Stop watching TV and Fox News and do some researches more often.

        Google this keywords:
        “former CIA admits bin laden fake videos”

      • Caleb Youngblood

        256 views………. You will say anything to feed your conspiracy theory mind………

      • marcus1324

        Your so clueless. Fox News is all truth and is the station everyone should be watching. And you thinking Bin Laden was not behind 9/11 is a disgrace to America. Also the only reason that the NSA has access to all of this is too prevent future terrorist attacks. You said,”Because we are all terrorists.” Well open your eyes there are terrorists living in America right now and it makes sense because of all the bad things happening in America such as fires and shootings. Obama has cut down on military spending and border control so they can all get it. Start watching Fox News, a news station directed by an Australian and Fox owned by someone from the UK. Not even American, they have no political view they can’t vote they aren’t American citizens. The owner of CNN is democrat and has given tons of money to the Obama campaign. Wouldn’t that make CNN biased and corrupt? There is nothing wrong with the truth, watch Fox News. Thanks for reading.

      • http://twitter.com/int3nsive Int3nsive

        You can’t trust TV. Period.

        They are controlled by the people with power. we all have the illusion of choice, but doesn’t matter the party, at the end, they only care about their own interests. nothing else.

        “Presidents are selected, not elected.”
        – Franklin D. Roosevelt

      • marcus1324

        Fox News shows evidence on things that Obama has done and other things that have happened and they analyze it for months at a time, (I’m not kidding you should watch it). The other stations don’t even bring these things up. What you said is true but only to CNN and other biased stations. CNN is controlled by the people, democrats that is because the owner is democrat. Fox News could technically be controlled by Libertarians or Independents because that’s the reporters views but that population is too small. Watch Fox News you will benefit and it will change all of your views. It shows evidence.

      • Rowan09

        WaterGate was once a conspiracy.

      • ✪ aidan harris ✪

        Can you imagine if we could all just get along nicely with one another and end terrorism once and for all…

      • http://twitter.com/int3nsive Int3nsive

        It’s impossible. Too many people with their brains washed.

      • Caleb Youngblood

        also to many people say stuff without proof….

      • Sergio lima

        AhsuabauBauahhahshauas, i cant stop laughing !!!

      • Walter White

        Anyone involved in organised crime that has even one iota of a brain knows to use a cheap prepaid phone that you snap in half right after your call to prevent triagulation of geographical location.

      • Rowan09

        You really believe that? Apparently some terrorists took over planes and flew them into buildings while being on the phone and contact with FAA for 45 minutes. Another plane basically drove into the Pentagon by a pilot who couldn’t control a small plane. Earlier this year they were going to make small knives legal on flights when apparently these so called terrorists took over these planes with box cutters. Come on, please open your eyes.

      • Caleb Youngblood

        again you have no proof anything you say is true just a bunch of conspiracy theory crap that holds no evidence of being true

      • smtp25

        You ask for proof that it was conspiracy? Where’s the proof that it’s not except the US govt saying its all true? Calling people nut jobs for not mindlessly accepting what they’re are told is just a tactic to try and dismiss any other counter opinion.

      • Nate McKelvie

        They also called us conspiracies nut jobs 5 years ago when people like myself said BACK THEN that the NSA was spying on our phones and electronic communications. And maybe i was just being an “unproven paranoid but” but oh yeah WE WERE RIGHT!

      • Sin

        Yeah, and smoking marijuana turns black people into “crazed negroes” who rape white women. Keep drinking that kool-aid, Caleb, and telling yourself it’s supposed to taste like piss.

      • Tony Trenkle Jr.

        They couldn’t even prevent the first one from happening…they probably WANTED the first one to happen. We needed to have some reason for the “war on terror”

  • ysfemrhn

    I don’t care! Because I’m not living in America, and also I’m using iPhone 3G :D

    • ✪ aidan harris ✪

      It makes no difference. If I remember rightly recently reports emerged of Britain giving America permission to spy on its citizens and vice-versa…

  • chumawumba

    Wasn’t this already implied?

  • Maxim∑

    NSA can gain access to anything im sure

    • ✪ aidan harris ✪

      Exactly. All it takes is a court order of some sort and a gag order to shut the company providing the info up and they have what they want…

  • Caleb Youngblood

    I understand,realize, and acknowledge that they do this program in order to find terrorists and criminals and to prevent stuff like 9/11 from happening again. Its all for National security matters. I do understand that but i just wish they would go about it a different way.

    • Al

      I agree, it’s kind of a slippery slope.

      On the other hand, you want the government to stop things like the Boston Bombing from happening or being able to swiftly find the criminals responsible, yet.. On the other end… it could potentially prey on the innocent.

    • Caleb Youngblood

      I understand the importance of the program. I just wish they would find a alternative method to finding terrorists and criminals . So the big question is. Are there any alternative methods other then the one currently in place?

      • Caleb Youngblood

        If there are no alternative methods America is going to have to choose between National security and privacy. You cant have both when it comes to the terrorist activity that is going on right now. If we don’t have this program then we might be risking another 9/11 from happeneing again but if we do have this program then privacy suffers.

      • Sin

        The gov are the terrorists. Do some research.

      • Caleb Youngblood

        So taking two planes and putting them into towers killing over 3,000 people isn’t terrorism?

      • Rowan09

        At one point people believed the government were spying on civilians and they were called conspiracies and now it’s a proven fact. Not all conspiracies are actual conspiracies.

      • Sin

        Yes. It is. That’s the point. There’s plenty if evidence those buildings were demolished. And building 7 wasn’t even hit by a plane. And how can a fire burn so hot that it evaporates steel but a passport survives?! It’s called a false flag operation and gov uses them all the time for private agendas. Even our gov has now come clean about the sinking if the Lithawania (not too sure about that spelling) in order to get the U.S. Involved in Vietnam. How can anyone look at history and see all this devious bs and continue to think “oh, but that was then. They’d never do that now.” After 9/11 the first thing the U.S. Did was invade Iraq & steal their resources then pass legislation to strip civil liberties from their own citizens. Now we can be indefinitely detained without trial if someone “THINKS” we’re a terrorist. Have you checked out the govs definition if a terrorist? It applies to everyone who doesn’t quietly consent to whatever they want. You think the 2nd ammendment is valid. Terrorist. You think the first ammendment applies? Terrorist. But maybe I am just a nut. So don’t take my word for it. Do the research for yourself and know for sure or keep your eyes closed and find out later.

    • YzMENTALzY

      9/11 was a inside job that made people insecure about themselves which gave the US Govt. A chance to use the NSA Prism programme to spy on people simple as that.

      • Caleb Youngblood

        You are a crazy conspiracy nut job. You have no proof that what you say is true.

      • Patrick

        and your ignorant, end of

      • Caleb Youngblood

        Do you have proof any conspiracy is true?

      • Patrick

        no i don’t but you don’t have any proof that their not true

      • Caleb Youngblood

        I actually do. Osama Bin Laden himself said in a video that he was the one behind it.

      • Patrick

        yep and if you do a simple google search then you will find out that osama was funded and worked for the CIA to fight the Russians when Russia invaded Afghanistan, after then he wouldn’t bow down to the US so 9/11 happened so that the government had an excuse to teach him a lesson and steal some oil

      • Caleb Youngblood

        google search is were you get your proof………..GOOD LORD

      • Patrick

        and where do you get yours from the CIA website, “for god and country blah blah blah BLAH!!!

      • Caleb Youngblood

        ignoring what i say cause you know I’m right…….

      • Patrick

        sure, i really hope that that something happens to you and then your lovely government that you very much love and adore and even ass lick to blame your death on another terrorist, so that our soldiers will be dyeing because of you, then maybe you might even burn in hell next to your wonderful George bush

      • Caleb Youngblood

        again you ignore what i say above cause you know I’m right……

      • Patrick

        and again you ignore what i wrote above because you know your wrong

      • Caleb Youngblood

        Do you have proof any conspiracy is true?

      • Patrick

        right do me a favour since we are going into a loop here, read again what i wrote after you first posted “do you have proof any conspiracy is true?” and keep reading on and on again until you finally catch on, i’m going to stop writing here because i think i’m loosing brain cells reading your post’s, have a good day and remember when barack obama tell’s you to jump off the cliff you do it!

      • Caleb Youngblood

        You don’t want to talk to me anymore cause you really don’t have any proof.

      • Rowan09

        He actually didn’t, he said he knew about it but wasn’t responsible says after 9-11, but then miraculously he confessed years later.

      • Caleb Youngblood

        Do you have proof of that?

      • Rowan09

        I’ll have to do some research as some of the videos were removed after his death.

      • http://twitter.com/int3nsive Int3nsive

        Caleb Youngblood, the most brainwashed person I’ve ever saw. If Fox News shows to him that a baby admited that he was the baby behind the 9/11 attacks, for him would be a pretty solid proof.

      • Rowan09

        I know I can’t believe anyone after seeing how the government caused the financial crisis and didn’t help the poor American people, that someone would still have a lot of faith in the American government. I love America and I’m living here as a native Jamaican but the truth should never be disputed. The American government is no joke. I wonder if he knows America trained the Taliban and Bin Laden worked for the US to defeated the Serbs.

      • http://twitter.com/int3nsive Int3nsive

        It’s because of people like him that everything is possible nowadays. With a lot of evidences that we are all being screwed by governments and bankers around the world and he still don’t get it and need “proves” .. lol.. what a tool.

      • Rowan09

        He needs to do a history lesson. I hope he’s a young kid because if he’s an adult.

      • Imahottguy

        Holy shit, a baby did it??! That’s pretty [b]int3nse[/b] ;-)

      • YzMENTALzY

        Bin laden was dead ages ago for someone who had diabetes and dying of kidney failure how can anyone stay in the mountains for that long? He died they made videos and showed em when appropriate. Take ur head outta the TV and the bullshit they feeding you and research urself u lazyass nutter.

        Funny how when that guy walked into cinema and killed and shot at innocent people they said he was unstable and let him go wasnt that a act of terrorism? What about the school shooting? Wasnt that terrorism but called him unstable the Govt are bullshitting you and your taking it in. Its people like you that is whats wrong with this world and to be honest you deserve NSA checking up on ur sorry ass even jesus cant help you

      • Caleb Youngblood

        Do you have proof all of the stuff you said is true?

      • Imahottguy

        The difference between 9/11 and Sandyhook and Aurora is that one is politically and theologically motivated, and two others are either revenge/voices/what-have-you/mental issues. That is why OKC bombing is terrorism, and columbine is not. Though they are all terrible, and hopefully can be thwarted in the future in part due to tech advances (though I wouldn’t count on it).

      • Rowan09

        You ask for proof and this whole article is proof, people in past called people who knew the truth now conspiracy theorists. People can’t deny it now because it came from a whistleblower.

      • Caleb Youngblood

        anybody can write a article and post it on the internet you are Mr. Gullible

      • Rowan09

        What? This article is about the NSA spying which was confirmed by a government whistleblower. This article is true and in the past it was a conspiracy.

      • Caleb Youngblood

        I wasn’t talking about that.

      • Rowan09

        You ask for proof and I gave you Water Gate and this which is now confirmed. You can keep believing the government is for the people when only 1% is rich and keep getting richer. Did you ever wonder why no one but Madoff got arrested for the current financial crisis? Dude after 9-11 the government can now search your home with a general warrant and the Nazi use to do the same thing.

      • Sin

        Zeitgeist is a great place to start. Lot of details.

      • Carlos Gomes

        His what?

      • YzMENTALzY

        Really? The laws of physics say if something hits side a object even building falls sideways why did it fall downwards? Bombs planted? So much steele in structure of WTC even a plane could not damage it like it did. Thermite was put in to burn the steele. It was like a controlled demolition. Come on man think before you reply back and take ur head out of the TV and whatever they are telling you. I bet your the kind of person that thinks all muslims are terrorists whereas i would complain the US are. Think logically.

      • Caleb Youngblood

        Do you have proof the conspiracy is true? Your word is not proof.

      • JackpotJr

        Don’t see any proof from you either. If you send a video or article the guys above can argue with the same lousy arguments you use.

        Try to open your senses. Do some research your own. I guess you haven’t yet. It’s quite an eye opener.

      • Imahottguy

        So logically, if thermite was used, then it was an inside job? What if the thermite was the contingency plan? What if they flew the planes into the buildings to get it on national news, live no less, in order for the entire nation to watch them be demolished by said thermite to shock and awe? I would bet that the terrorists knew the buildings would not collapse from a crash alone.

        To me, this seems like a more logical conclusion than George Bush et al, lead by Cheney (sp? lol), getting together to figure out a strategy to get into Afghanistan.

        Though we don’t know the full what and how, I think we do know the who and why.

      • Sin

        But I can point you to a lot of evidence that strongly suggests it if you’d take a little time to see.

  • nitwitvd

    The NSA should stop doing stuff like this, just like al agency’s should stop doing things like this. We want our privacy back!!!

  • http://twitter.com/int3nsive Int3nsive

    The big problem is that they can gain access to any device, any operative system and any internet services (social networks, e-mail, etc).

    It’s not about security. It’s all about control over the population and that’s the BIG problem. It’s one of the ways that the 1% controls the 99%.

  • Mac_Guy

    What I don’t get is since this whole NSA spying started happening, why don’t they tell us what potential terrorist attacks and crimes they have actually been prevented. 9/11 wasn’t stopped and neither was the Boston Marathon bombing.

    I find it ridiculous that they keep going deeper into invading our privacy yet the results from all this seems unchanged.

    • Caleb Youngblood

      You need to look it up……

      • Mac_Guy

        The truth is there is nothing to look up, these programs aren’t helping the people. The government could lie and say they have saved us from the next global thermal nuclear war but they are smart enough to know not even try.

    • ✪ aidan harris ✪

      That’s because these programs don’t work and the Governments involved in spying programs are in denial. The fact of the matter is if I route my internet through a no logging VPN provider and then use tor over this VPN I can guarantee no one anywhere will find you…

      • Imahottguy

        You are kidding right? In truth the “no logging” bit is just marketing. I GUARANTEE that if it comes down to it, the VPN providers will hand over the logs and etc. to appease the authorities of their home country, who are being pressured by the US. Also, if you believe because you use a VPN and TOR that you are anonymous, you are mistaken. No, I would not be able to run my hack.bat file to locate you, but I would be willing to wager that the government could ID who you are through your connection if they put their resources to work. If nothing else, the leaked documents prove that what we thought was impossible, or at least very difficult, was indeed happening.

        Of course they will not focus on you for your pr0n and music torrenting. Unless of course you start typing in some keywords into google on a regular basis.

        TL;DR: Never assume you are anonymous on the internet. You are not. It may take a while to peel each layer of the onion, but eventually your true location/identity will be found.

      • ✪ aidan harris ✪

        I was just being hypothetical but yes with physical access to a machine anyone anywhere could obviously be located in regards to what you think about VPNs though I agree and disagree. While some companies clearly use the no logging thing for marketing purposes only assuming your provider is somewhere in a country that dislikes the US you are probably safe. As far as figuring your location by using all resources then you’d have to be a pretty high target for them to do that…

    • EpicFacepalm

      I think their plan is to spy the world, but they will show us a few incidents that is prevented.

  • Roddy

    America is the biggest lie..

    • Freddy Born

      the only thing thats a lie is the cake…

  • Patrick

    i call this the new world order, everyone is getting raped up the bum by the worlds elite (illuminati)

    • Carlos Gomes

      Fortunately we all have our tinfoil hats to protect us!
      Phew!

  • Rowan09

    This is not news it was just confirmed. I’ve been saying it for years and even the movie Enemy of the State said this but people that made these allegations were “conspiracy theorists”. If anyone actually believes freedom means the ability to do whatever you want freely you are living in a dream world. Freedom is controlled hence we wouldn’t have laws, rules, guidelines, etc. This is one reason when people lobby for lawmakers to pass new laws to protect us, I’m always against it. The government can get access to whatever they want, the difference now is especially since after 9-11 we allow it.

    • Joe Benning

      Of course you have to have rules and laws. Freedom doesn’t mean you can murder anyone you want. This isn’t the 1600’s. It may be excessive but if it stops someone from another 9/11. I’m for it. So no, I guess you can’t be a terrorist and have your freedom too.

      • Rowan09

        I’m from NY and was in Manhattan heading to the World Trade on 9-11-01 if you really believe we are more secure you have to open your eyes. We have a bunch of school shootings, Boston Bombing, etc. There was also a failed bombing attempt in Manhattan with a SUV and regular civilians foiled that plan not the government. Anyone can be a terrorists and America terrorism people as well, I’m from a country that they destroyed and it’s called Jamaica WI.

  • bobism

    duh

  • Luism27

    I wish the jailbreak allow me to get rid of them lol.

  • Burge

    If thay want access to your device, it will not be because you take pictures of your mates mum.. It going to be a bit more on the serious side. Get a grip people.

  • Victor J. Lockwood

    Frankly I really don’t care what the NSA has access to. If your not doing anything wrong WHY WARRY!?

    • Victor J. Lockwood

      I’m not saying I like the concept. But again if you’re not doing anything wrong who cares?

    • Antzboogie

      Worry* No one wants to be spied on who cares if you have nothing to hide. Get searched every second of everyday? Your in a rush to get to work ” Oh he looks suspicious get searched plant the bug your late for work fired”don’t you think the people are tired of getting snooped on dude. #FREEDOM

    • WolfgangHoltz

      Hope someone use same backdoor and place something on your iPhone you must be worried about if NSA find.

    • gittlopctbi

      Victor, in the course of history, you can find whole groups of people that were “not doing anything wrong.” Yet, the government they were under found reason to accuse them of wrongdoing and they are now dead. Your position is fraught with total ignorance. I might ask you, “If you’re not doing anything wrong, why should the government have to spy on you?” Ever thought of that?

    • Sin

      Just because I’m not walking around my house in the buff doesn’t mean I’m ok with people peeping into my windows. That’s why.

  • jimmyb

    I got a galaxy s4 so ain’t got to worry bout that :)

  • J. Rockwell

    I’m just waiting for the “NoNSA” jailbreak tweak.

    • Sin

      Halla-F**king-Luya!!

    • FrankensteinBlack

      It already exists. Its called “Firewall-IP”! Buy it!!

    • http://twitter.com/int3nsive Int3nsive

      Yes, it’s called “hammer”.
      Just hit hard your iPhone or any other smartphone and you’re NSA free.

  • Rick Kreuk

    So let me get this straight: the American government allows Apple to prevent jailbreaking, but in the meantime uses exploits/backdoors to spy on citizens? To all Americans: your country is quite nice, but your government is full of shit and doesn’t represent the American people whatsoever.

  • Antzboogie

    The question is how can we protect ourselves??

    • Sin

      Rise up! Civil disobedience. Drug war is a great example. For half a century lobby groups have been begging the Feds to legalize grass but it was always laughed off until it became too expensive to keep locking stoners in jail that the public has begun shifting opinion.

  • n0ahcruz3

    Oh sh*t the nsa knows about my porn stash lol

  • MrSergioRamos

    I hope they turn the camera on when I’m taking a shit..

  • Andrew

    NSA mentioned in a post = 43635457457 pages of comments aka drama

    • Sin

      And I for one am glad to see people are discussing it.

  • Core

    now we know what all those unuesed daemons are for ;-)

  • FrankensteinBlack

    Oh geez I wonder why apps like “Cryptocat” gets rejected by Apple! Which is why the “Or, perhaps the more worrisome, Apple sabotaged it themselves.” is the more likely scenario despite Apple’s emphatic denials. What are they going to say “yes, you got us”? That would be more harmful than Samsung could ever be!

    So, JAILBREAK that iDevice and guard your draws with apps like Firewall-IP (and others). Sayin…

  • Hackintec

    no terrorist is gonna use Safari on their iPhone to buy a bomb off the black market…

    But it’s okay. NSA knows how much pr0n u are watching, which is much more important that others privacy and safety

  • Andrew von Pikrt

    This is so funny “discussion”. Seriously.
    Ive spend over 12 years researching 9/11 and going through the piles of intel, mis-intel, bullshit made up stories, etc..
    Im not gonna comment on what I found out, or who did I talk to, nor what I think of people proclaiming they know everything about that event, but this is just so funny, when everyone is arguing without the slightest idea of what actually happened.

    Further more, the idea of complete privacy in 2014 is idiotic. It is not a question of who is watching you, it is a question of what are you willing to share. Anywhere.
    And if you have a smallest piece of brain in your skull and know how to use it, you must surely realise, that you are sharing more information about yourself every day, than for example your parents shared in their entire life.

    Certain data should not be accessible, or at least not that easily, but every encryption can be broken. Every encryption. It is just a matter of brute force and time.

    Not mentioning, that when you want a complete privacy, go offline. There are ways to avoid 99% of surveillance. Obviously with growing number of satellites orbiting Earth (and there are over 500 of them currently) it is getting increasingly difficult, but that is the tax of our age, stupidity and willingness to listen to American propaganda. (And Im not talking only about the so called “freedom” propaganda)

  • Burge

    After reading some of the comments here I can stop thinking that some of you must use tin foil hats.. PARANOID ..