TinyUmbrella creator releases questionable tweak for downloading Pandora tracks

By , Mar 4, 2013

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For those of you who aren’t familiar with Notcom, he’s the guy behind the popular SHSH blob-saving tool TinyUmbrella. Thanks to him, we can rest assured knowing that our device blobs are safe in case they’re ever needed again.

Today, the developer unveiled a new project. It’s a questionable jailbreak tweak called pandy that allows you to save tracks from the Pandora music app to your iPod app. And unlike other music downloaders, it syncs with iTunes…

There’s no icon for pandy, or any options in the Settings app to configure. In fact, the only way you’ll know that it’s been installed is to look for the confirmation box that tells you that a song has been downloaded to your device.

So how can you control which tracks are being downloaded? You can’t. At least not yet anyway. Notcom says that this is the “have fun with this” version of the tweak, and he has plans to add more features to it with future updates. But even now the tweak is functional. It automatically downloads the ‘Now Playing’ song in Pandora, and adds it to your iPod app. It stays away from duplicates (must match exactly), you get album art when available, and it syncs with iTunes.

Now, we’re not lawyers, but we’re pretty sure downloading music for free like this isn’t exactly legal. At the very least it likely breaks Pandora’s TOS.

We can’t recommend using pandy – and we normally wouldn’t even give it any coverage – but we found it odd that someone like Notcom would even release such a tweak in the first place. Don’t forget that pirating music or pirating apps is the same in the eyes of the law. It’s surprising that Notcom, someone with a certain popularity among the jailbreak community, would come up with a tweak that downloads (pirates?) music from Pandora. We find it odd.

According to a comment Notcom posted on his site about the tweak, he seems to believe it is legal:

As recording radio* for personal at-home use is protected by law, I am creating a private repo which will host my tweak.

When asked about it, this is what Notcom had to say:

It still doesn’t look really legit to me.

If you still want to check it out for yourself, you’ll have to add notcom’s personal repo to Cydia. To do this, open Cydia > Manage > Sources > Edit > Add > type: http://apt.semy4.com/repo > and search for pandy. It’s completely free.

Do you think Notcom made a mistake by releasing this tweak?

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  • http://www.facebook.com/Gregory.Gonsalves10 Gregory Smiley

    I love Daft Punk

  • anasiatka

    I can not locate this in the repo… I think it was taken down.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000945354629 Avery Massenburg

    Leave a message…Whatever happened to iDB not supporting Piracy of any kind?

    • http://www.iDownloadBlog.com Sebastien

      I can understand your comment. I actually thought about it before publishing this post. As I see it, we’re not supporting piracy. We’re highlighting the questionable move from a well-regarded member of the jailbreak community.

      • http://twitter.com/burlow burlow

        as someone who doesn’t follow/use internet radio, I never would have heard about this tweak unless it was mentioned on a few popular blogs (I only visit 2-3 tech blogs on a given day).

        I’ve now installed it, going to give it a try. I only say this to tell you, there are people out there who are using this because of this post. I don’t fault you for it – quite the contrary! I’m glad I came across this. But don’t fool yourself into thinking you’re not supporting piracy.

  • http://twitter.com/x_rus_x Vitaliy Anonymous

    Pretty sweet tweak. I tried capturing the mp3 file, and it wasn’t the best quality though. Something around 128kbps.

  • Coka Coka

    it is not there any more, I even checked to see if the source was right, weird?

  • Justknight

    Will it be updated to be compatible to other services such as Songza and others?

  • Greg

    Its not on the repo…

  • http://www.iDownloadBlog.com Sebastien

    What was Notcom thinking when he released this tweak? I bet he will take it down in the next few hours.

    • deepdvd

      He says exactly what he was thinking on his site:
      “EDIT:

      As recording radio* for personal at-home use is protected by law, I am creating a private repo which will host my tweak.

      I’ll be announcing the repo here… stay tuned ;)

    • http://www.iDownloadBlog.com Sebastien

      Replying to my own comment. Well, it didn’t take long. As predicted, he took it down. That was stupid from him to release such a tweak in the first place.

      • deepdvd

        uh, no. try again.

    • EpicFacepalm

      Previously he said that (he has removed that entry from the website), he asked about the app to a legal counsel and the given reply was negative. I don’t know what has been changed.

  • Martin Saturnator

    Is there a tweak that does this for YouTube as well?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Steven-Cannan/100000630162509 Steven Cannan

    Must get for spotify oh god and Android please please Android curious to see how this competes to pandroa downloader :)

  • Victor Rosales

    It’s called Pandy and it downloads every song you play on pandora

  • deepdvd

    Release notes say “0.0.1-1 pandy : Changed name!”

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1457594844 Matthew Dias

    Don’t see why it would be so hard to add a download button…

  • http://twitter.com/Tiff_Sherman Tiffany Sherman

    I don’t see it in the repo. :( I see pandy only.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1332728607 Omar D. Plumey

    It’s called Pandy now. Check recent changes.

  • http://www.facebook.com/joe.jonsen Joe Jonsen

    pandora downloder is better

  • http://www.iDownloadBlog.com Sebastien

    I don’t think I’m being hypocritical. The tweak you link to was used to skip ads. There isn’t much difference between this and an ad blocker for your browser. This being said, we may have written about similar tweaks in the past, which doesn’t make us hypocrites, but doesn’t necessarily mean we were right to post about these tweaks in the first place either. We used to cover every tweak that was released, and sometimes, it might have been one with questionable purpose. That doesn’t mean we encourage piracy in any way.

    • iphone4sgamer

      If you think about it endorsing the removal of ads is piracy because with ads enabled you are paying the company or developer etc.. your time using their service opposed to using physical currency. when using adblocking programs or hacking their software to skip music you essentially are using their service for free without giving anything back in return.

      • EpicFacepalm

        Yes it’s almost the same as piracy. They don’t lost anything physically but you get media for free. Also they pay for servers, artists, developers etc. So, even it is legal, it is not ethical. Both Pandy and Ad removers. Though ad companies should give users a choice to be tracked or not.

  • Queker

    I use pandora v3.1.13, pandy 0.0.2-16, but pandy keeps crashing the pandora.app. How to fix this?