What we learn from the Absinthe 2.0 video [updated]

By , May 20, 2012

Now that a video showcasing the Absinthe 2.0 iOS 5.1.1 untethered jailbreak has finally surfaced, we can glean additional details about what to expect when the tool is released to the public.

If you haven’t already seen our posts outing the name of the highly anticipated tool, or our post with the video of Absinthe in action, then be sure to take a look at those respective posts.

The nice thing about seeing the tool in action for the first time, is that we can have a clearer idea as to what to expect once the tool is released.

Here is what we’ve found so far…

  • Looks-wise, the tool is nearly identical to the original Absinthe tool that was released back in January for the 5.0.1 untethered jailbreak.
  • Like the original Absinthe, no DFU mode is required, or any other manual intervention. All you do is connect your eligible iOS 5.1.1 device, click jailbreak, and let it work.
  • The jailbreak should be fully completed within 5 minutes or so (at least on A4 devices).
  • There doesn’t appear to be a need to mess with any VPN settings from what we can discern from the video footage, though this could change.
  • Cydia is immediately installed after the jailbreak is complete.
  • Unlike the original Absinthe, which only worked for the iPad 2 or the iPhone 4S, Absinthe 2.0 appears to work with all eligible A4 and A5 devices.

Other points of note:

  • A Mac version was shown on video, and just like the original Absinthe release, a Mac version will probably be released first. Windows should shortly follow, and then perhaps a Linux version.
  • There’s no word yet on a Command Line Interface release. During the original Absinthe release in January, the iPhone Dev Team was responsible for the CLI version of the Corona exploit. It’ll be interesting to see if the same pattern is repeated this time around. (see below for updates on this)
  • Still no word on whether or not you will be able to perform a tethered jailbreak on eligible A4 devices, and install a package like you could previously with Corona for a full blown untethered jailbreak.

We’re still analyzing all of the facts we have thus far, and we will update this post with anything we find regarding this exciting time in the jailbreak community.

If you have anything to add, or any observations to note, please let us know what you find in the comments below.

Update: I’ve confirmed directly with MuscleNerd that a) A CLI version of the 5.1.1 jailbreak will be released, and b) the iOS 5.1.1 jailbreak will be incorporated directly into RedSn0w as an all inclusive package. As far as time frames go, those are still undetermined.

If the past is anything to go by, then we may see a CLI version of the 5.1.1 jailbreak released alongside Absinthe 2.0. Please keep in mind that no time table has been confirmed by the iPhone Dev Team, so any time estimates are just conjecture on our end. Still this is very good news for the community.

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  • http://twitter.com/thegabrielk Gabriel K

    oo nice. looking forward to it, will definitely donate to this.

  • http://twitter.com/ahmedor ahmed cheour

    Hey Jeff : difference between Absinthe & redsn0w and what do think we should us to JB our devices A4 or A5
    Cheers

    • Anonymous

      No difference, they us the same process in different GUIs. Ive always preferred Redsn0w over Absinthe, it just feels more stable.

      • http://twitter.com/ahmedor ahmed cheour

        thx, hope that Redsn0w won’t be late to release beta 12 and i have to redown again & again all my tweaks lol

      • Ronald Weaver

        What felt unstable about Absinthe? I defintly have had more troubles in the past with redsnow. IPSW not recognized, troubles getting past second stage of loading exploits. Just curious

      • Anonymous

        Sometimes with Absinthe the phone would not reboot after the process was complete, I would have to play around with the VPN toggle a bunch before it would finally reboot. Redsn0w has always worked the first time for me without any issues.

      • Anonymous

        Same here, back in the 4.2.1 days it was Greenpoison that was perfect and Redsnow that often caused issues, same now tbh … With the current iterations of Redsnow I often have problems when rebooting or jailbreaking, the device often reboots itself instead of uploaing the shizz.

        When I tested it way back when running 4.2.1 jailbroke with different tools it always had less ram free after jailbreaking with Redsnow as opposed to Greenpoison, not just once, everytime I did it. Dunno why like but there it is lol

      • Anonymous

        Same here, back in the 4.2.1 days it was Greenpoison that was perfect and Redsnow that often caused issues, same now tbh … With the current iterations of Redsnow I often have problems when rebooting or jailbreaking, the device often reboots itself instead of uploaing the shizz.

        When I tested it way back when running 4.2.1 jailbroke with different tools it always had less ram free after jailbreaking with Redsnow as opposed to Greenpoison, not just once, everytime I did it. Dunno why like but there it is lol

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Frank-Has-A-Crank/685810626 Frank Has A Crank

        last time for ios 5.0 i jailbreak with redsnow… i rejailbreak with redsnow when they updated redsnow versions…. till now my iphone is unstable….

        am going to absinthe this time… seems faster for me n i wanna try it.

      • http://twitter.com/neoaggelos Aggelos Kolaitis

        you don’t have to rejailbreak every time!!! :P
        probably that’s why problems occur!!!

    • http://twitter.com/AlbertoMS89 Alberto Martinez

      the difference between redsn0w and absinthe is with redsn0w so far u have to do a number of steps to be able to jaibreak ur idevice and with absinthe u just plug in ur device and click jailbreak. as for the A4 or A5 thing, A4 devices are iPad 1, iPhone 4, iPod touch 4. A5 devices are iPad 2, and iPhone 4s. so if u have any of those devices the jailbreak should work.

      • http://twitter.com/br3akth3lim1t Nathan Barnett

        If they put the same thing Absinthe does into redsn0w, it would not require extra steps like the older A4 devices that use the limera1n exploit, and you must be in DFU (Device Firmware Upgrade) mode to allow the exploit to run it’s payload and jailbreak the device.

      • http://twitter.com/AlbertoMS89 Alberto Martinez

        i know that the device has to be on the DFU mode to be able to run the exploit (i’m not stupid, go and be a smart ass somewhere else) but with redsnow you have to put your device in DFU mode manually, with abisinthe the software puts your idevice on DFU mode automatically without the need of you pushing buttons on your device.

      • http://twitter.com/AlbertoMS89 Alberto Martinez

        I agree, if they put the same thing Absinthe does into redsn0w, it would not require extra steps. but that has nothing to do with the answer I gave to the question, for future reference try and investigate why a person posts what they post, don’t try to make yourself sound smart, against someone who knows what they’re talking about or you’ll embarrass yourself.

  • http://twitter.com/Lookinforjb John herthe

    Jeff, should I update to 5.1.1? Or stay at 5.1?

    • http://twitter.com/AlbertoMS89 Alberto Martinez

      yes u should update, because the new untether jailbreak will be for 5.1.1

  • Ronald Weaver

    I have a idea Jeff lets make a blog here on your website that we can donate to his reserch and kindness for providing us with such a grate thing! Lets see how much we can raise for him and give it to him from all of us at downloadblog. everyone who donates can say there thanks to him. Mabey Ionic will catch wind of it. LOL

  • Ronald Weaver

    To all those who don’t own a Mac go to your local Apple store and complete the following task. A bring your own sink cable. B find the nicest Apple computer in the store. C upload all necessary files from your provided thumb drive. D jailbreak your new iPad or iPhone4s. C show the closest Apple employee what u have done or run like hell with your new jailbroken device.

    • http://twitter.com/thegabrielk Gabriel K

      you’d probably get banned or something. somebody should do this and post it on youtube xD

    • Anonymous

      “Sink” cable, wtf is that.

    • Anonymous

      “Sink” cable, wtf is that.

  • Marty Cunnane

    i am jailbroken on 5.01 in itunes should i update or restore to 5.1.1

    • http://www.imaxforiphone.co.cc/ McMichael96

      Restore to 5.1.1 and when it asks “Do you want to set this iPhone up from a backup” choose your lastest backup. That’s what I’d do.

      • http://twitter.com/neoaggelos Aggelos Kolaitis

        I think he should Set Up as New
        That’s what I know…

      • Anonymous

        True that, it can cause issues when restoring from a backup, especially if you haven’t installed the same tweaks you had prior to the restore … Jailbroken of course, no issues from restoring from an unjailbroke backup to an unjailbroken phone.

      • Anonymous

        True that, it can cause issues when restoring from a backup, especially if you haven’t installed the same tweaks you had prior to the restore … Jailbroken of course, no issues from restoring from an unjailbroke backup to an unjailbroken phone.

      • http://www.imaxforiphone.co.cc/ McMichael96

        Their is no way is could cause a problem since iTunes only backs up jailbreak’s tweaks settings. And they don’t interfere with anything if the said tweak isn’t installed. I’ve done tested it serval times.

    • http://twitter.com/br3akth3lim1t Nathan Barnett

      I recommend that you set up as a new device because restoring from an older backup can cause problems.

  • http://www.facebook.com/frank9000 Francesco Suarez

    should i update from IOS 5.0.1 > 5.1.1??? so basically the redsn0w downgrade was for only ppl that wanted to be on ios 5.0.1 and to wait or the jailbreak if accidentally upgraded.. so this will no need no more cz every device will be jailbroken on IOS 5.1.1 so what was the point of all that … and so ill update it to keep up to date with the jailbreak & and everybody else lol.. also nothing will change cz it will be same tweks, and apps that i’ll have :/ so no big deal

    • http://twitter.com/Fathead_XIII Fathead

      I dont think I would upgrade. As far as the tweaks are concerned you’ll have more compatibility on 5.0.1 than you will with the new 5.1.1. I’m staying on 5.0.1. I downgraded from 5.1 and my iPhone 4 actually runs better now.

      • http://www.facebook.com/frank9000 Francesco Suarez

        and i also bought an battery charging case from mophie for my 4s ater updated from 5.0 but hopefully i can get a better battery life out of 5.1.1 witht he case as well … if it helps then i’ll really upgrade

    • http://twitter.com/southcackalack Lemerio P.

      According to Pod2g, He noticed a difference in better battery life once he updated to 5.1.1. Perhaps that is worth the time to re-jailbreak for some, you be the judge…

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jude-Palermo/100002164977772 Jude Palermo

    Jailbreak. Jailbreak. I can chant and chant and chant. I will sleep on my roof of my house till this is released. Jk. That is crazy. I can’t wait!

  • http://twitter.com/99metanight Jack T ;)

    so when will this be released to the public, i promised a friend i would jailbreak there device tomorrow…

    • http://twitter.com/neoaggelos Aggelos Kolaitis

      probably you shouldn’t have done that … :p
      noboby knows when they release their tools :P

    • Anonymous

      LMAO why would you promise that when you have no clue when it’s out haha

  • http://twitter.com/Phyr_Fir Phyr 

    Just to confirm, this does work on the new ipad right?
    anyways, gd job Dev Team!

    • http://twitter.com/neoaggelos Aggelos Kolaitis

      Of course!!!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/TMT6W26UHBBMMYRTJ7BAOYUMPI Euro Nakabayashi

    jeff,are they still working on the 5.1 untethered jailbreak?

    • http://twitter.com/br3akth3lim1t Nathan Barnett

      On iPad 2, 3, and iPhone 4S the jailbreak will only support 5.1.1.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/WZGHYQT662OJ7PDRSJXIHBAF3E Jess Smith

    Always go to Absinthe or C Dev, never had any problem but Redsn0w sometimes get white cydia icon or something else

    • http://twitter.com/neoaggelos Aggelos Kolaitis

      a single respring would fix that

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/LGXF5LCSOQMKOE2KFFAX34PRLE Irving

    Guys I have a question. Can I update my iPod on 5.0.1 to 5.1.1 over the air even though I’m jailbroken?

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003530234142 Peter TheMoo Cow

      No, Apple checks for Cydia, or other traces of jailbreak tools, before they install the OTA update, you can try all you want, but it’ll keep showing errors of fail :)

    • http://adam.hbang.ws/ Adam D

      You can’t because it checks system files to see if they were changed by jailbreaking. Also, there’s really no need to upgrade from 5.0.1 to 5.1.1 unless it has a feature or bug fix you need.

      Ad@m

  • http://www.facebook.com/jeromechrome1 Jerome’s Room

    Hey everyone, do we need to download the large IPSW file to be able to perform the jailbreak with absinthe?? Plz reply

    • http://twitter.com/neoaggelos Aggelos Kolaitis

      I think not

  • http://twitter.com/jake1047s jacob wolin

    I’m so excited, I’m hoping for a release tomorrow, but I can wait, I just updated my iPhone 4s from 5.0.1 (jailbroken) to test out battery life before I rejailbreak, so far it’s excellent, I have no problems with it, and I like what the update adds, I also can’t wait till I can reupdate

  • http://twitter.com/jake1047s jacob wolin

    My iPad 2

  • http://twitter.com/NoahKing666 Noah King

    Just downloaded ipsw for 5.1.1 in anticipation :D:D

  • http://twitter.com/The_Malik Malik Davis

    Perfect timing. My iPad was just shipped to me. =D

  • http://twitter.com/neoaggelos Aggelos Kolaitis

    You are so lucky then!!!

  • Anonymous

    Hi Jeff do i need IPSW file or just update OTA?
    Thanks

  • http://twitter.com/bennsteward Benn Steward

    Will the jailbreak not come to redsn0w at all? That’s the only tool I’ve used so i trust it a little more.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Paul-Kuhn/100000664029525 Paul Kuhn

    is there a way to “update” jailbreak from 5.1.1 tethered to untethered. Or do I have to install it completely?

    • http://adam.hbang.ws/ Adam D

      Usually you can just re-jailbreak with the new redsn0w. It’ll probably come as a Cydia package too, like Corona.

      Ad@m

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1134997801 Omar Assaad

    Thanks guys, very nice work!!! :D And for those who use custom ipsw jailbreak? Will the jailbreak be available in sn0wbreeze or pwangetool?

    • http://twitter.com/br3akth3lim1t Nathan Barnett

      Doubt it because it is a userland jailbreak and not bootrom. You have to have a bootrom exploit to install custom IPSW unless they use redsn0w to install it.

  • http://twitter.com/br3akth3lim1t Nathan Barnett

    Unless they used another racoon VPN exploit or any exploit in VPN then VPN is not necessary to launch the payload. Which is what VPN did in the original Absinthe.

  • http://jailbreakandrootexpert.co.cc/ ipodtouchman77

    CLI means I can jailbreak tethered now and then use corona to untether right?

  • http://www.facebook.com/jnobrega1984 João Pedro Nóbrega

    Will it work on A5 5.1 ? Or only 5.1.1 ?