iTweak: an upcoming alternative to Cydia

By , Feb 26, 2012

Since the jailbreak community formed sometime in late 2007, we’ve seen a number of “App Store alternatives.” I can think of Icy, Cydia, Rock Your iPhone, and Installer just off the top of my head.

Now it looks like we could soon be adding another option into the mix: iTweak. The new store describes itself as a ‘Cydia alternative’ where jailbreakers will be available to find all of their favorite tweaks, themes and utilities…

iTweakStore.com just went live with a ‘Coming Soon’ banner, and the following message:

“Welcome to iTweak! iTweak is one of the best places to get all of your Tweaks, Themes, Utilities and more on your jailbroken iPhone, iPod touch and iPad! We serve as an alternative to Cydia, and the Apple App Store.”

We’ve seen a number of promising Cydia challengers over the years that never managed to materialize, so for now we’re remaining skeptical. But if these guys can really deliver on their claims of a “fast, powerful, and easy to use” jailbreak store, we’re all for it.

There doesn’t seem to be any word on when iTweak will be open for business, but as always we’ll be sure to keep you up to date as the story develops.

What do you think of iTweak so far? Do we really need a Cydia alternative?

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  • http://twitter.com/asafmoraz Asaf Moraz

    Ohhh nice, i really loved rock your phone at the past! and in the minute it became so powerfull, saurik just got scared and bought it to destroy it!

  • http://twitter.com/asafmoraz Asaf Moraz

    Ohhh nice, i really loved rock your phone at the past! and in the minute it became so powerfull, saurik just got scared and bought it to destroy it!

  • http://twitter.com/asafmoraz Asaf Moraz

    Ohhh nice, i really loved rock your phone at the past! and in the minute it became so powerfull, saurik just got scared and bought it to destroy it!

  • http://twitter.com/TheAdobeFlash 〖iPhone  H@x0R〗

    lol cydia will allways be the most stable and reliable in my mind (saurik ftw)

  • Anonymous

    Saurik will just buy it and destroy it just like he did Rock

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=539008191 Luc Thibault-vallée

      I was going to say the same thing

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1282069152 Christian Campana-Emard

    lol Does anyone remember the ‘Theme Store’? I forgot the official name, but it was constantly under development.

    • http://adam.hbang.ws/ Adam D

      I think it was the DreamBoard store. If you go to the site, though, it says they shut it down.

      Ad@m

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1457594844 Matthew Dias

    finally. I’ve always wanted a mac jailbreak package manager.

  • Anonymous

    Some friendly competition never hurt but Goodluck getting all of the power, Tweeks and developers that chris already has

  • http://www.youtube.com/jwbjnwolf Jwarn

    IF its a lot faster than cydia (as speedy as apple app store) then of course. Cydia is just stupidly slow

    • http://twitter.com/vantheman169 vantheman420

      Not with the 4S its not.

      • http://twitter.com/fireh0tz fireh0tz

        cydia for me on 4s is still slow as shít

      • http://twitter.com/thehayhorse Hayden Jenkins

        cydia for me on iPT4G is incredibly fast, almost no difference between it and app store

      • Anonymous

        Ohh what 6.2 seconds faster… Ok it’s worth it

  • Kok Hean

    It looks like a web app for deb files.

  • http://www.facebook.com/colby.kirchner Colby Kirchner

    What ever happened to Lima ?

  • http://www.facebook.com/colby.kirchner Colby Kirchner

    What ever happened to Lima ?

    • http://twitter.com/Awmusic12635 Awmusic12635

      I’m glad you still remember us. Check iDownloadblog out now, just posted a review of our beta.

  • Anonymous

    More options is always a good thing

  • http://www.facebook.com/tanoodej Tanoodej Anutarakul

    I think Cydia just needs an overhaul. Change the UI up a bit, and some speed improvements would be great to. The nice thing about Apple’s app store and the Android market is that it’s a one stop shop, its convenient. I don’t think it’s necessary to have multiple stores for a single platform.

  • Anonymous

    I really used Rock Your Phone A LOT!!! It was fast, user-friendly and then Saurik bought it and I was like: “yeah, now Cydia will be as awesome as Rock”. But it didn’t.

  • Anonymous

    Unless they can link all the purchases from Cydia it will be pointless to change to it.

  • Anonymous

    Cydia needs to be refreshed. It takes too long to load. The repos are filled with ads, there is so many unsupported and irrelevant tweaks floating around. There is no uniform standard to how tweaks and themes are presented. Some have screen shots right on the main page. Other times in more info. Sometimes on a click out URL.

    Cydia works but it’s the only option right now. Competition would be good. Make it more simple like the app store and more stable and with backgrounding.

    • http://twitter.com/vantheman169 vantheman420

      And be able to install multiple tweaks and only have to respring once instead of respringing after every tweak or extension, that is so flipping annoying. The rock you could install multiple tweaks and respring once. Cydia UI is a complete failure and hardly any structure or organization to the jailbroken app store. Competition is good!

      • Anonymous

        Just put them in the queue and you only need to respring once.

      • Anonymous

        Yeah, you know, the ability to Queue installs that’s existed for a year and a half.

  • http://twitter.com/The_Malik Malik Davis

    Those of you who complain about Cydias performance, I want to ask you some questions?
    Are you on a recent iDevice? I noticed a significant increase in Cydias load time when I upgraded from the 3G to the 4 then another increase when I went to the 4S. Also do you have a bunch of repos your trying to load ? Having too many unnecessary repos will make your load time longer. Lastly, did you know that you can hide sections in cydia that you really don’t use? For instance there are thousands of winterboard themes. If you’re not using themes too much you can go to sections. Press edit. and chose to hide the theme section. Even though you hide the section you will still be able to search the theme. Hoped I helped.

  • http://twitter.com/The_Malik Malik Davis

    Those of you who complain about Cydias performance, I want to ask you some questions?
    Are you on a recent iDevice? I noticed a significant increase in Cydias load time when I upgraded from the 3G to the 4 then another increase when I went to the 4S. Also do you have a bunch of repos your trying to load ? Having too many unnecessary repos will make your load time longer. Lastly, did you know that you can hide sections in cydia that you really don’t use? For instance there are thousands of winterboard themes. If you’re not using themes too much you can go to sections. Press edit. and chose to hide the theme section. Even though you hide the section you will still be able to search the theme. Hoped I helped.

    Also opening Cydia at least once a day just to let it load helps. It’s just like the App store. You won’t know your apps need to be updated until you open it.

    • http://adam.hbang.ws/ Adam D

      A note about the loading speed: Cydia runs on APT, which is actually from the Debian OS. Cause it was designed for desktop machines, it does things that might take a few seconds on a PC but take forever on iOS.

      Ad@m

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000304163638 Jim Tate

    what we need is an overhaul for Cydia. it may be slow as molasses, but it’s stable, reliable, and you can’t beat the peace of mind that MobileSubstrate and SafeMode bring. saurik really knows what he’s doing, but if he doesn’t have time to overhaul Cydia, why couldn’t he hand over the code to some of the grizzled veterans and let them have a go?

    they don’t have to compile/package/publish the update. they could just give the finished code back to saurik who could look over it, approve it, tweak it to his liking, and turn it into a finished product. surely, he would at least have time for that…

    it’s long past time for an update that does more than keep Cydia running on the newest firmware. where’s the rating system? let’s see a tagging system. I want to be able to narrow down my search results by category, date, developer, repo, etc.

    that being said, I would probably browse the packages with something other than Cydia if it was fast, but ultimately, I’ll probably never stray from Cydia for actual package management. it may be painfully inefficient, but at the end of the day, it just plain works. and for me, that is by far the most important thing.

    • Anonymous

      There are already grizzled veterans looking at and actively working on Cydia. Taking the time to look under the hood instantly blows away any notion that it’s inefficient – everything it does, it does for a very particular reason. This seems lost on most users.

      • Anonymous

        There is a Ton of work gone into cydia by top devs, I think we could show a little more love! If it’s so easy have at it, but like the majority says, cydia is all we have…// so I don’t see ppl lining up to speed it up!

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000304163638 Jim Tate

        “everything it does, it does for a very particular reason.”

        I don’t doubt that one bit, except for that fact that it doesn’t cache anything. does it really have to reload every single page, even when no changes have been made to my packages/sources? if I do a search and select a package from the results, does it really have to re-execute the search when I press back? that’s the kind of inefficiency I’m talking about. or, at least from a non-developer standpoint, what I perceive to be inefficiency.

        I understand that everything Jay put into Cydia is for the safety of the user’s device, and I appreciate that immensely. that’s why I’ll only ever rely on Cydia for un/installing packages. it’s really the U.I. and general browsing of packages that I’m referring to when I call it inefficient. but if there’s a good reason for that as well which is, as you say, lost on me – then I stand corrected.

        I certainly don’t want to seem disrespectful or unappreciative of the work that goes into it, I guess I just assume that Jay forgoes certain “luxury” features in favor of core stability. and if that’s all he has time for, I certainly don’t fault him for it. he gives very freely of himself for the jailbreak community. I’ll never forget the server issue which he spent three(?) days working on with Amazon, sleeping in 1.5 hour shifts and maintaining a sense of humor throughout. I just wish for the amount of money I spend in Cydia, it was a little more enjoyable to use.

        but in light of the news that a Cydia team has been established, I’m suddenly excited to see what a bunch of high-caliber devs come up with when all that talent is pooled. in the mean time, I’m going to keep quiet and keep spending money to help you guys do what you do. =)

      • Anonymous

        There isn’t really a Cydia team as such but the Cydia code is open source and so any dev can take a look at it.
        The real problem is that there are no problems that need to be fixed with Cydia. I looked at the code and after my initial reaction “that’s a massive amount of code” I started looking at it and realised most apps are many times bigger then this.
        The ObjC is has pure C scattered through out for better performance and I’ve heard that it even drops down again into assembly code for some things.

        What do people have against Cydia they want fixed? The problem developers have is that there’s nothing wrong from a technical point of view and besides vague complaints most people don’t mention specifics developers can look to for changes to make.

        Also lots of the issues like the download speed is to do with the repos. There’s one BIG file that lists all the packages that repo has and so Cydia must redownload it each time to find new packages. And as more packages are added so the file size grows.

  • http://twitter.com/Estebab1997bc Esteban Gonzalez

    I think it’s going to be like the rock app. Ok for a while but then not heard from again

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Marc-Peters/100001462059887 Marc Peters

      Rock was bought by Cydia, it’s not like they dissapeared because no one was using it. About the only thing Saurik took from Rock was the Queuing. Which is a shame because Rock was FAST.

      • Anonymous

        The queueing that Cydia had months before Rock even started showing up on phones. Was stolen from Rock. Cool.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Marc-Peters/100001462059887 Marc Peters

        Shrug, guess I was wrong. No reason to be snarky about it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Derek-Probst/1805682098 Derek Probst

    Finally, someone decides to give Cydia some competition. Just like AT&T got denied on the T-Mobile buy-out, Jay Freeman shouldn’t have been able to buy out Rock Your Phone. (yeah, way different, but just wanted to vent)

    If they (iTweakStore) put in a rating/comment system (as opposed to an optional comment section), it will succeed because it will finally have something that Cydia seems to think is unimportant. Jay Freeman must get SO much money from the Cydia Store, but he seems to put so little of that back into his alternative app store. For a long while, he couldn’t even keep his Cydia home page updated. I think he finally hired one other person to help him. It seems he wants to stick with the “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” mentality.

  • Anonymous

    Is this a new way to make money? Will Saurik buy this one, too?

  • Donovan Wynter

    there is no problem with cydia i dont see where we need a competitor
    not that i wouldnt try it if it should mature because i,m a jailbreaker and love to try new tweaks on my phone but i,m not excited

  • http://twitter.com/tomdotcom_uk Tom

    Do we really need a Cydia alternative?

    A new source for apps doesn’t mean there will be an increase in the range of tweaks available. The level of inventiveness and the work rate of developers won’t increase. You will just have to open both app stores to check for updates and to browse new packages!

  • Anonymous

    THIS IS GONNA B AWSM..!!!!!! :D

  • http://twitter.com/amad_ahmed01 Amad

    They will have to do well to beat cydia coz saurik won’t go down with out a fight plus cydia comes mandatory with every jailbreak, if you can change that then you can kill cydia.

  • Dan

    I hope it’s true, I find cydia outdated in many aspects

  • Anonymous

    So we may finally see a speed upgrade after all

  • http://twitter.com/Reelin101 Auguste Nahas

    Well I’ve always thought that the Cydia’s interface isn’t great. If iTheme can be as stable as Cydia, with the same amount of tweaks and a better interface, then I think it has a good chance of taking off.

  • Anonymous

    I am a firm believer in options (competition) as a consumer. After all, that’s the main reason(s) for jb my iP4S. OPTIONS :)

  • Anonymous

    Everyone saying Cydia is slow then go pay for a server & run your own repo & see how much it cost to run & much much time you will have to put in to it to keep it up to date.

  • Anonymous

    I think the fact the UI mockups use iWebkit is a bad sign (though saying that most of Cydia is just HTML files too) but not completely disastrous.

    I think the real problem is all the biggest developers are also involved in some way with the repos and/or Cydia itself so your unlikely to get much developer support from the big players. Also to get something like this off the ground you NEED mass developer support. That’s the same reason why lots of smart phones never get going, no developer support.

    Of cause if this support apt repos like Cydia, icy and rock then that’s good as its compatible with all repos. However that means it still has the same problems that Cydia, icy and rock had with speed and performance.
    To fix those you’d need to start again from scratch (as it seems they have) but then that means you also start from scratch with regard to packages available (0).

    We’ll see how this turns out but apart from the UI using iWebkit the developer support is, I think, the most difficult challenge they’ll have to overcome.

    (also as a developer I get the feeling I’d get some abuse on IRC if I out my stuff up there)

  • http://twitter.com/coolstarorg CoolStar Org.

    Hey, it’s @coolstar from @iTweakStore, and we just downloaded the first deb from iTweakStore. Expect more from us soon.