Why Piracy Hurts the Jailbreak Community

By , Dec 2, 2011

A recent post by jailbreak developer Filippo Bigarella really hit me. Filippo is a relatively well-known developer in the jailbreak community, and his most recent app, Springtomize 2, has been making huge splashes since its public release yesterday.

We have a great relationship with Filippo at iDB, and I consider him a friend. He’s a good guy who makes incredible software. His stance on pirating Springtomize says a lot about how piracy hurts the jailbreak community.

What Filippo had to say:

I’m 17 now, and I develop tweaks because I like doing so and because I’m earning money for my future studies at university. I spent a lot of time working on Springtomize and its copy protection, and now, after 24 hours, thousands of people are getting all this work for free (I started working on it almost 4 months ago).

Also, I always tried not to charge too much for any of my products, because I know that spending more than $3-4 may sound expensive.

If you want to start figuring out what I lose, just calculate (let’s say) the 10% of all pirates (assuming that’s the lowest part of them that would have bought the program legally). The rate is 1:80 = legit : pirates.

I’m not saying I’m the first dev whose stuff gets pirated, I know, this is how things happen every time. I just thought I had to spend these 3 minutes writing this.. Now, back to work (even If my motivation is really low at the moment).

Here’s a 17 year-old genius who makes jailbreak apps (PasswordPilot, SMSPlus, FlashLock, Springtomize, etc.) to help pay for his future schooling. He behaves more maturely than most adults I know, respects the community, and even gives free copies of his apps away on sites like iDB.

Heck, he even realizes that asking more than $4 for an app is unrealistic because people don’t want to pay that much for software anymore. That doesn’t mean that the cost of producing great software has really changed, just that developers like Filippo must accommodate the new market.

I feel like many people must think that the developers behind apps we use every day are mindless drones that sit in their basements coding all day. That’s not the case. They’re people like Filippo. People like you and me. The only difference is that they know how to make awesome software and we don’t.

I’m not going to get into the “morality” issue of pirating, because hairs start getting split and it doesn’t really make a difference. I don’t care why you pirate. Popular responses are usually “I don’t have any money to spend on little apps, “I’m a teenager who doesn’t have a job,” “I only pirate apps to try them out,” “It doesn’t really make a difference if I pirate, the dev still makes money,” etc.

In the case of Filippo, there’s a huge chasm between Springtomize’s legal and illegal users — 1:80, to be exact. Other jailbreak developers have echoed such figures from their download statistics. Piracy runs rampant in a community that pretends to be unified against the “big bother,” Apple.

Frankly, people that say they belong to the jailbreak community and then pirate apps are hypocrites. Pirates help no one accomplish anything; they’re digital parasites. Developers like Filippo have to deal with support emails from people who are complaining about a cracked version of Springtomize malfunctioning. That’s wrong.

If anything, Filippo’s last statement should hit home the most. Piracy doesn’t just steal the product of hard work, but it also demotivates. If, like me, you’re waiting for the “next big thing” from the jailbreak community, piracy could very well be the reason. If brilliant developers like Filippo are discouraged to create stuff because people are stealing their work, we (the users) have nothing to do but blame ourselves.

Don’t pirate apps because it’s “wrong,” choose to not pirate because you want to be a decent human being.

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  • http://twitter.com/littlefuter Ian F.

    great article alex

  • Anonymous

    So dear ol’ Flippo goes on increasing the price of his code just because a bunch of no good pirates keep pirating. In other words, he applies purely retarded logic and justifies legitimate users to pitch in. I’d love to see where this standoff ends. He’ll probably have even lesser moolah from future releases, because $4 is way too much for a simple jailbreak app, some might enquire the reason for the price increase and find out that his app can be pirated and give it a shot themselves. Because hey, why the hell should he be pitching for others?

    • http://www.mikebeas.com Mike Beasley

      Filippo hasn’t raised the price of anything. He introduced Springtomize 2 at a special introductory price and said he would raise it later (which he may or may not still do, considering he said this months ago.)

    • http://twitter.com/qwertyoruiop qwertyoruiop

      “So dear ol’ Flippo goes on increasing the price of his code just because a bunch of no good pirates keep pirating. In other words, he applies purely retarded logic and justifies legitimate users to pitch in. I’d love to see where this standoff ends. He’ll probably have even lesser moolah from future releases, because $4 is way too much for a simple jailbreak app, some might enquire the reason for the price increase and find out that his app can be pirated and give it a shot themselves. Because hey, why the hell should he be pitching for others?” – translates to “I’m a piratefag idiot” on google translate, from faggish stupid nonsense to english.

      • http://www.alexheath.me Alex Heath

        That comment made absolutely no sense. And you’re one more comment like this one away from getting banned.

      • http://twitter.com/therealjdizzle Jason Masters

        +1 on that one there is no need to belittle someone because of their opinion, thank you idb for keeping it social and not a jungle.

      • Anonymous

        thats a fantastic response, please continue :)

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003073164107 Daniel Bolton

    Shut up alex and just give me a free copy

    • Anonymous

      u need to be banned

  • http://twitter.com/Ramesses Messiah

    Charly,

    Alex,
    I couldn’t agree more with the 17 year old dev. But I can only speak for myself.. I spent a lot of money on Cydia apps, and most of them dnt even work anymore with the new iOS. Sometimes, you have to wait for months before you can use your tweak again. That happened to me with tether me, Lockdown Pro, Album Plus and much more.. they don’t even answer to my email anymore and they won’t refund the money as well.

    Thanks

    • http://twitter.com/L0stInH011ywood ricardo

      Heres a soultion idiot. get it off a free source if it works and u like it buy it!

      • http://twitter.com/Ramesses Messiah

        you idiot, how many times you get something for free and decided later to pay for it?

      • http://www.facebook.com/KalaniSmith94 Kalani Smith

        Sorry, but it’s known that some tweaks are not always reliable. Why would I invest money to it just to have it installed and either make me restore my phone or not work on it? It’s like throwing money out the window. I would never spend 300+ dollars on tweaks for them to later be useless.

      • http://twitter.com/therealjdizzle Jason Masters

        If you got a bj for free then the hooker turned around and said now pay me 100$ would you pay or say no thanks I was just trying your mouth out lol!!!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3SXZXS5MI3L5OYFNJXTKKTIWWA omar

        You idiot !!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3SXZXS5MI3L5OYFNJXTKKTIWWA omar

        You bloody fucking idiot !

    • Daniel Shaffer

      Exactly, I’ve spent well over 300 bucks on tweaks in Cydia…50% of which are useless now. I’m willing to pay for software that is committed to updates and further development. Not some kids dream to write a tweak and get enough people to buy it before saying peace out. Any tweak over $.99 is really asking to be pirated. Everyone in this community realizes Apple will change the firmware…if you are not committed to updating your tweak for everyone that bought it – then at least put it in GitHub so others can modify and continue to use it. I had zero problem paying 10 bucks or whatever it was for IntelliscreenX…but I also know those developers will always be there (within reason) to make it work. OpenSource ftw.

  • http://twitter.com/Coachgonhard Marcus Carter

    Great article. You guys need to make a dislike button. Some of these people that are posting simply “don’t get it.”

  • Anonymous

    This pisses me off, I paid for this app…. and still got a pop up from him saying that I have cracked version and that if my device gets fucked up its not his fault.

    Fuck that, bro. I gave you my money for your hard efforts, I don’t like getting a pop-up accusing me of stealing your software.

    • http://www.alexheath.me Alex Heath

      I would email Filippo about that. I’m sure he will fix your problem.

      • Anonymous

        All I saw was a twitter contact……

        I wanted to email him but after going through the documenation I could not find his email.

        Hopefully I didnt look right over it… but I don’t think it is readily available.

      • http://twitter.com/Byronnnn Bryan Heindel

        There should be a link to email the dev right in Cydia on the App page, in this case Springtomize.

    • Anonymous

      I would guess you purchased a cracked version from a different Repo then Filippo’s original host?

      In which case who knows who actually got your money.

      • Anonymous

        Got it off the BigBoss repo…. should be the correct one, no?

      • David Alonso Villamizar Lizcan

        good one! lol

    • Anonymous

      “If you’re on Comcast and you can’t get the license to activate, respring while connected to another network.”….he tweeted that earlier…. fix incoming though!!!

      • Anonymous

        Yes: that happened to me too. I am on Comcast so I turned off Wifi and downloaded Spingtomize 2 under 3G without a glitch.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OOHNKXBL472N6KAPMRSPZOU6EY Brent S

    Bingo. It’s sad that you had to use that many paragraphs to explain it. Someone put in the work, they deserve to be paid. What’s even more sad? Those that pirate this stuff are more than likely not ever going to change.

  • http://www.mikebeas.com Mike Beasley

    Filippo actually posted that in response to a conversation I was having where I was trying to explain exactly what you said here in this post (but in tiny 140-character bursts). Excellent post. Thanks for writing this. I hope more people realize how discouraging it is for developers to realize their apps are being stolen at such alarming rates. Luckily for Filippo, he has built very good copy protection into Springtomize, and from what I’ve been seeing on Twitter, the cracked versions aren’t working at all. I’m glad for his sake that is the case because it means the pirates are getting nothing in return for their crime. I wish more people would realize how stupid of them it is to steal other peoples’ work.

    Imagine if you were at your own job and someone just came in and decided they were going to take your merchandise without paying because they didn’t have enough money or didn’t think it was worth the price you were charging. Now imagine if for every one customer that came in and bought something, 80 more came in and took your merchandise without paying. Soon, you’re going to be out of business because you can’t be afford to restock the merchandise. Besides, even if you do restock, it’s just going to be time and money lost on your part because others will simply come in and take it without paying again. That’s what happens you pirate software.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003073164107 Daniel Bolton

    Lmao this article is really bad!

    • http://twitter.com/_XemnasX_ Justin Michael Edens

      Are you serious? Show some respect dude.

    • http://twitter.com/_XemnasX_ Justin Michael Edens

      Are you serious? Show some respect dude.

    • http://twitter.com/_XemnasX_ Justin Michael Edens

      Are you serious? Show some respect dude.

  • Anonymous

    Is this post not a bit hypocritical in itself? Is jailbreaking strictly legal? Where do you draw your moral line Alex?

    • http://twitter.com/Byronnnn Bryan Heindel

      Jailbreaking is 100% legal. No pirating. Not copyright infringement. Nothing. Stealing software, especially from an indie developer is wrong. Just because its digital, doesn’t mean it didn’t take as much work to make as something physical (painting,furniture,clothing etc.) Don’t be ignorant.

      • Anonymous

        Apple obviously are anti-jailbreaking, so he is trying to make money from their product in a way they are trying to combat. Apple are the creators of the original product and he is making money off their product without paying apple any royalties, while this may not be illegal, is it morally correct? Is it morraly correct enough to post a blog getting on your high horse about piracy of jailbreak apps?
        For the record I am an iphone owner for the past 3 years and jailbroke once back at 3.?.? and never rejailbroke after next update. 4S owner now,

      • http://twitter.com/Byronnnn Bryan Heindel

        This comment is also ignorant. Apple really isn’t fighting jailbreaking, they are doing the necessary things as a company to fix the security bugs that are used to jailbreak, it just so happens that fixing those vulnerabilities halts the ability jailbreak until a new whole is found. In a sense, the jailbreak community is helping Apple keep the 99% of iPhone users not jailbroken, safe from malicious hackers.

        Do the companies that produce all the software you install on your computer pay royalties to Apple and Microsoft? No and why would they? The reason dev’s have to give Apple a cut of there profits is because Apple is hosting and distributing the application.

      • http://twitter.com/therealjdizzle Jason Masters

        I agree here with rossa25 and this debate will forever go on it’s like a prochoice/prolife rally everyone has their opinions and made up minds most won’t change or listen so it’s senseless to even post these articles the devs all know the business either you accept known risks or you don’t develop but whining about it trying to appeal to people’s moral or ethical side is a dangerous path especially when most hackers aren’t your average Joe smith but rather we think outside the box hence our reason to jail break I mean look at installous the morning after the iPad 2 was jailbreak was it all the tweaks getting pirated or even bought nope installous had to get new servers because they added nearly over a million new people now if jailbreakers preach non piracy then why did that happen like I always say if you know the risk you accept or protect yourself from it but please whining has no place not here not in the jailbreak community n0t anywhere but in grade school!

      • Anonymous

        Stealing software (apps) is stealing software… Indie developer or not.

      • http://twitter.com/Byronnnn Bryan Heindel

        That was not the point I was trying to make, stealing is stealing, I agree. My point is, you should feel morally worse stealing from someone who could easily be your neighbor.

      • Anonymous

        And my point is stealing from your neighbor is morally equivalent to stealing from everybody else…

      • http://twitter.com/Byronnnn Bryan Heindel

        Nothing like arguing with someone about something you both agree on. I’m not saying this is how I feel, but with all these comments I have been reading one here, people don’t give a shit about anybody.

      • Anonymous

        Your comment below is ignorant in the use of the word ignorant and in its argument that apple isn’t fighting jailbreaks.

        Your paragraph about companies not paying royalties for software I install on my computer has little to nothing to do with software on my iphone and apples model for this, maybe this is a seperate bugbear of yours.

      • http://twitter.com/Byronnnn Bryan Heindel

        Jailbreaking is not illegal! Therefore Apple has no right to enforce there business model. And I’m not saying Apple doesn’t like jailbreaking, because if they did, they would condone it like Microsoft does for WP7, the point is, they are obviously going to fix the glitches in their software that is allowing a jailbreak because the same method could be used to install malware and steal information.

    • Daniel Risler

      Jailbreaking IS strictly legal. Google it.

  • http://twitter.com/iFunked  Ross 

    I totally know how he feels. I just started studying Computing in university, and a lot of work is Java coding. Some programs take a lot of effort to write, so I appreciate that jailbreak tweak devs would like to profit off their hard work!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002455017458 Brandon Nolet

    The reason about 50% (my guess) of people who pirate pirate things is because they A) don’t have the money to spare B) it’s much easier to get stuff that way C) they don’t have a credit card D) they’re parents don’t let them use money online or E) they just don’t trust the online usage of money

    Note: This is solely a guess and in no way represents true fact

    • http://twitter.com/L0stInH011ywood ricardo

      still if u cant buy it dont get it. u dont NEED these paid tweaks if ur not gonna support the developer dont get this app at all

  • http://twitter.com/GXGOW Nicolas Loots

    I use the ‘Try it, then buy it’ way, so I’m sure what kind of tweak I’m purchasing.

    • http://twitter.com/_XemnasX_ Justin Michael Edens

      It’s 20% cooler to just research the tweak before you buy it instead.

      • http://www.facebook.com/KalaniSmith94 Kalani Smith

        Researching the tweak doesn’t mean it will work on your phone. Sometimes what others say or show (screenshots) are completely different than what it actually is.

  • http://twitter.com/ThemeMyi ThemeMyi

    I THINK that someone should Redevelop Cydia or create a new app that Defeats Piracy im Sure thats Possible

    • http://twitter.com/Byronnnn Bryan Heindel

      Among other reasons, this would completely go against everything jailbreaking is about. You jailbreak to free your phone from Apples rules, by implementing strict drm, you are walking a fine line and are no different than Apple. I am completely again piracy, but I also hate DRM.

  • http://twitter.com/melovestoast Jared Floyd

    I’ll be honest, I do pirate.. Mainly because I want to try the app to see of its worth it. I will buy it if I like it.

    • http://twitter.com/L0stInH011ywood ricardo

      ha exactly me too cz they b having tweaks dat dont work or themes dat look good in the preview but ugly when u try it out

      • Anonymous

        Maybe they do work but the are just way to hard for you to figure out like elementary english obviously was.

      • David Alonso Villamizar Lizcan

        I can barely understand your comment! lol

    • http://twitter.com/packerrd packerrd

      yeah, because you will pay for the app knowing that you already have it for free.

      • http://twitter.com/melovestoast Jared Floyd

        No? I just don’t want to pay for something I don’t want. I do delete them if I want to buy them. Ive done that many times in the past.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1769816470 Albion Goxhaj

    Really good article.
    I used to pirate apps here and there, and it was great. I stop doing that few months ago. I just simply feel better about it, and writings like this one make me support my decision even when i get a little tempted :)

  • Anonymous

    I don’t pirate jailbreak apps, but I don’t buy them, either. I respect that a lot of work goes into them, which is why I don’t want to be the asshole who rips off the dev who’s just trying to help the community bring to life a feature that is lacking in the the stock iOS.

    The reason I won’t by jailbreak apps is simple and twofold: 1) I don’t trust Cydia with my credit card information, and 2) I am far too lazy to buy and maintain a disposable line of credit just to use on my iPhone.

    • http://twitter.com/Byronnnn Bryan Heindel

      Cydia never see’s your credit card info. If you’ve ever bought anything from Amazon, then you have no reason not to buy anything from Cydia, since Cydia uses Amazon payments or Paypal.

    • http://www.alexheath.me Alex Heath

      Well at least you’re honest.

  • http://www.twitter.com/ANGOmarcello Angelo

    I try to be honest now.

    After I performed my first jailbreak, the first thing I did was searching the web for informations.
    Informations on how to get anything for free. I know that was not nice, but I was like: “Hey I’m the best I can have everything I want for free!”. But from that time to today I really changed my mind on the matter. Maybe it was the fact that I was following some developers on twitter, which showed me that they are indeed also people like me trying to get a bit money with there work. Or simply myself growing up understanding that it is not right.

    Long story short:
    I think I can understand people who pirate app’s and tweaks and everything. But I also think that everyone should consider buying the App’s that made them happy at some point. To make the people behind them also happy and support them.

    Where is the advantage in having a awesome tweak for free. If the developer is demotivated so that he discontinuous the work on it, and it gets useless after the next firmware update?

  • Anonymous

    Its a cydia app! Most of you get upset or want your money back when it stops working, or is not compatible with the next ios update. Guess your not smart enough to know this is the chances you take. But again you were stupid enough to buy a cydia app.

    And poor flippo crying about pirating! Arent you taking business from ios developers that play ligit with apple? They sell an app for .99 cents and have to pay 30 percent to apple. Poor flippo is bypassing apple so he can get the full 4.00 to homself. Cry me a river flippo

    • http://twitter.com/Byronnnn Bryan Heindel

      Just when I thought these comments couldn’t get any worse, I read your’s. Is is not taking business away from “legit” developers (Filippo is a legit developer), because Apple would not allow the apps he makes into the App Store because it doesn’t follow their rules to be submitted. And from my understanding, most repos that host software packages take a small cut of the profits as well to keep the servers up and running (though not as much as Apple).

    • Anonymous

      At least write the name right ONCE, for crying out loud.

    • http://twitter.com/jacobtf jacobtf

      Shows how much you know! There are actually developers who return money, if you aren’t satisfied with their product. But how would an ignorant know the full story…

  • http://twitter.com/nasterlovin2010 Jerad McCarty

    Flippo deserves all the money only pirate BS themes and useless tweaks but pay for all the good ones like ISX and call bar and especially springtomize 2 cause there worth paying for

    • http://twitter.com/Byronnnn Bryan Heindel

      Any app worth using is worth paying for, if it isn’t, dont use it.

  • Luis Finke

    i think the introduction of something like cydia gift cards that you can buy at a store would make that ration a bit better

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000041129068 John Angelo Moraitis

    Piracy also hurts the jailbreak community in that when people (out side the jail break population ) think of jailbreaking, they right away link it with piracy. So when I offer to jailbreak other people’s iPods and they say “I though jailbreaking was illegal!” I then go to explain the difference. However if they did make a jailbreak that blocked pricey, it would be a hypocritical statement. Jailbreaking is removal of all limitations, and what you do with those is up to you.

  • http://twitter.com/bowser1067 Mark B

    Maybe if more devs released trials, maybe more people would buy if. I for one like the try before I buy, but have purchased many tweaks because I use them a lot. (folder enhancer, iFile, sb rotator, ls rotator just to name a few)

    Devs release apps that are charging lets say 5.00. How do we know if it is any good if we can’t try it. Does that mean I have to waste 5.00 if I don’t like it? I may as well burn a 5 dollar bill.

    I understand the devs work hard on these tweaks, but they need to give a trial. (much like iFile)

    Just my 2 cents.

  • http://twitter.com/bowser1067 Mark B

    How do you know if it is worth paying for if you can’t try it first?

  • Dan

    I bought springtomize 2, but I’ve encountered a bug that renders it useless. When I take a picture, the camera lags up. Then the phone goes into a respring loop. I need to shut it down and reboot using the PC. I had to remove it from my phone entirely. 3$ down the toilet :( .

    Not sure if it’s a general bug or it’s acting up with my other tweaks… but i’m not getting rid of the other tweaks that worked perfectly together before

    • http://twitter.com/Byronnnn Bryan Heindel

      You have to understand that sometimes things don’t always work perfectly and the developer is there to help. Just send him an email, I’m sure he would be happy to work through your problem, and if he can’t, I’m sure you could get a refund.

      • Dan

        yeah I did yesterday, no response yet

      • http://twitter.com/Byronnnn Bryan Heindel

        Well, obviously with a fresh release, he likely has a lot of support emails. You can only beta test so much.

      • David Alonso Villamizar Lizcan

        That is something we are not supposed to do, if I pay for something, I want it the way they tell me it is, so I don’t pay for bugs nor to help fix ‘em. And it’s frustating to ask for support without an answer when you paid to get the right to ask for help.

      • http://www.bloise.co.uk Frankie Bloise

        true, in fact in this model you are paying to be a “beta tester”…

      • http://twitter.com/Byronnnn Bryan

        False, you are not paying to be a beta tester. By your logic, a developer should never release updates to their software, it should always work perfect right out of the box. If this is what you think, then next time there are updates for your computer or iPhone, don’t install them, they are unnecessary.

  • http://adamscode.sourceforge.net Adam D

    The reason why people pirate software is because it’s much easier to get away with than in a shop. I mean, you don’t go into a shop and say, “I’m going to steal this apple so I can test what it tastes like, but don’t worry, I’ll buy it tomorrow,” and the staff allow you. Not just is this illegal, but the staff need to be paid. You might think not paying $2.49 won’t hurt, but if you times that by the number of people that stole the product, it could be a big number. I remember iDB interviewed a paid tweak developer and he said that he had lost thousands of dollars to piraters. Also, you don’t really need to be concerned about a small amount of money, when there’s people out there buying expensive stuff, then deciding they don’t like it.
    If it sounds good and you want it, buy it; if you’re not sure, look around for other peoples’ opinions or try a (legit) demo version, if any.
    I’ll be honest, I was a pirate of quite a few tweaks, until about a month ago, when I started buying them. It feels much better to buy them legit.

    Ad@m

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GHMMMM7USVIIFRZP44YHTD76RM Jason

      Go fuck yourself, you self righteous prick! Oh, way to go with the whole you wouldn’t steal in a store analogy. Ok, what about all the devs that you’ve ripped off in the past? You’re pretty much saying fuck you to them and their hard work. You WILL NOT see me on here bragging about the last time I bought an app or a song or criticizing the people that pirate. But don’t act like you’re so much better than everyone else because you decided to do the right thing this month. This goes to everyone acting innocent, GROW THE FUCK UP!

  • Anonymous

    I am 100% agreeing with the article, but one thing “I know” would make a huge difference, well maybe not huge, but would definitely make a difference is you guessed it “FREE TRIALS!!!”. I have paid for a few tweaks that have never worked at all. YourTube, really come to mind. I bought that, and it never worke for me but once. Update after update , and finally ( when I was still on 4.x.) YourTube 3 came out an it still didn’t work. After that I decided I will not pay for any tweak unless I can try it first, by any means. Now Fillipo, well I paid for almost all of his tweaks (and no the ones I didn’t pay for are not cracked, I just don’t use them). And i “gladly” paid the $1.00 upgrade fee because i just think it is awesome of him to let previous owners of 4.x Springtomize have his tweak for such a decent price, and if he didnt, i would have still paid the full price because I aware of the hard work put into it. . Now tweaks like IntelliscreenX just truly pi** me off because if it was $5 i would gladly buy it but $10 is such a rediculous amount to pay when you compare to the price (and functionalty) of Spingtomize 2 And I don’t promote piracy, but if Devs would just let people try things first I think it would make a difference. I guarantee that a lot of people who use pirated tweaks, were people that paid for an app that didn’t work, ever. YourTube 3 made me use cracked apps. But never have I just used cracked tweaks just because I didn’t want to pay. I DO want to pay. It makes me feel good knowing I contributed. And some people just don’t get that they can, & need to help the Devs if they want a nice tweaked out and smooth JB. Any cracked tweak I used (that I liked) I paid for, and only because I tried them out!. So of it wasn’t for using a cracked version of a tweak that offered no trial, I would have not spent the money on them. If it wasn’t for that one tweak that I bought not know how well it functions, I would still be just buying tweaks that looked appealing. So yes, I agree with how piracy hurts the jailbreak community. But Devs that put out tweaks with a price tag, no free trial and no updates or support have also contributed to piracy, so users are not the only ones to blame,(certain) DEVS are too and no one will convince me other wise. So until I see a free trial, if even one day, I will continue to use cracked tweaks to test out. So it’s up to the users AND THE DEVS to put a drag on piracy.

    • David Alonso Villamizar Lizcan

      that’s right, cydia should get free trials for every app, or at least refunds for those that doen’t work properly.

    • http://twitter.com/jacobtf jacobtf

      While I like Springtomize 2 too, even though it made my iPhone reboot spontaneously and I had to remove it, I can’t really see the problem about paying 10 dollars for IntelliScreenX.

      Springtomize is great, but it is mostly tweaks. Hence there is another degree of programming involved. IntelliScreenX interfaces with mail, rss, twitter and facebook, making it somewhat a different degree of programming (no disrespect to Filippo!)

      In other words, IntelliScreenX is more like building something from scratch whereas Springtomize is more poking around and finding ways to turn things on/off, alter/tweak them a bit. I’m pretty sure even Filippo would agree to this.

      I will, however, admit that I too have bought apps on Cydia, that never really worked at all or were horrendously buggy. A trial WOULD be nice. But hey, there was a trial for IntelliScreenX and it was extended on several occasions.

      Oh and IntelliScreenX was also cheaper, if you had previously bought IntelliScreen.

  • Anonymous

    I could be wrong but the way I see it is like this: 1. People will continue to pirate software simply because they dont have the money to buy it. 2. People pirate to try before they buy. 3. People think your asking way to much for an app. So I would say pirating does have its good points as well as there bad. No I dont pirate simply because I dont jailbreak. But when I used to jailbreak I used installous to try before I buy.

  • http://twitter.com/MeenaSunilK Sunilkumar

    More often the people who download the pirated copies are the ones who don’t mind eating a $2-$4 pizza slice but they do mind spending money on tweaks like Springtomize failing to realize that pizza slice is good for few hours for their stomach while Springtomize is good for at least a year.

    • Anonymous

      Ya, your right! Way more important to use an app for a year than starv to death. WOW!

      • http://twitter.com/MeenaSunilK Sunilkumar

        Wow someone is so poor that he could post on a forum and talk about starving lol.

      • Anonymous

        WOW!

      • Anonymous

        Johnydoe, you obviously don’t understand the comparison.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t pirate Cydia apps because I tried it more than once, and more than once has it bricked my iPhone. But I do download free games from Installous, and not once do I feel bad about it, so yep, I’m pretty much dead inside actually.

    But to be honest, though, there is no App Store in my country (Paraguay: dare you to find it in a map), and even if there was one, I don’t have a credit card, and I’m pretty far away from getting one. So I don’t have a choice, so don’t you dare get all religious on me, people.

    • Anonymous

      A huh right, no pre paid credit cards in your country? If not you must own tall rubber boots on your farm huh?

      • Anonymous

        Ok, human, I see you are finding it hard to understand. There are credit cards in my country, I personally don’t have one, since I’m underage and I admit I would totally lose control if I had one. There IS NO APPLE APPSTORE in my country, therefore I couldn’t BUY APPS LEGALLY ANYWAY. And by implying that Paraguay is a farm, you are just stereotyping yourself and the rest of the Americans as the stuck-up, self centered, ignorant people they are known to be.

        PS: And dude, for crying out loud, you could’ve just said that you knew no other country apart from the US and we would’ve totally understood your situation.

      • Anonymous

        Your true colors are shining now. So your all about “fuck America” and “pirate all I can” by the way, I said PRE PAID VISA. And I didnt try and label your country as a FARM. I simply emplied you fuck sheeps.

      • Anonymous

        Oh, Johnnydoe, using sex jokes as a last resort. It is such a shame that I don’t really seem to care about them.

      • David Alonso Villamizar Lizcan

        you are right, it’s not about discriminating people for the country they live in, latinamerica is not a farm as some people may think it is, there is just no appstore in some coutries here, and about the prepaid cards, they are not in every city, and in a country without appstore, how can you expect to find a prepaid card there!!? some people speak without even using it’s head.

    • Anonymous

      get a prepaid card

    • Joshua McClure

      Im pretty sure any tweaks cant brick your phone. I think “bricked” means it is literally a paper weight. Meaning not even a restore could fix. Only a rebuild. But I know I heard quite a few people explaining what bricked really means( they explained in different ways that if you restored your phone, and fixed it, then it was never bricked. Or something like that). But he**. Who knows. Not me.

  • http://twitter.com/Elf_Knight Wayne

    Perhaps, Saurik (Cydia) could do more to remove repos that offer cracked apps.

    If you can afford to have an iDevice then you can afford to pay for the apps, if not tough luck! Don’t expect any help from the developer if it don’t work properly if at all.

    • Anonymous

      nothing saurik can do. if he blocks all repos, that breaks meaning of jailbreak – free from restrictions. and other repo mangers like rock or icy will come out for sure.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Matthew-Cooper/100000164561256 Matthew Cooper

    I remember hearing awhile back about an anti-pirating jailbreak that would disable pirating from jump street. I think Comex was still in the game then. More work needs put into that project.

  • http://twitter.com/melovestoast Jared Floyd

    Okay I’m going to add something to my previous comment. I don’t ALWAYS pirate. I respect developers, because I am one for the most part, but I do not want to waste money on something trashy I’ll never use.

  • Anonymous

    Seriously, he shouldn’t be developer if he doesn’t like getting pirated. I mean every developer gets pirated.

    • Sam Iceton

      he said he wasnt anything special, he just felt obligated to give his 2 cents. and just because pirating happens doesnt make it acceptable

      • Anonymous

        i mean no great developers complains about their products getting cracked. they work on new products instead of wasting time to protect crackers.

        Crackers gon crack

  • Anonymous

    Great post! I’m glad to see that other people share my position on thoughts of piracy.

  • http://twitter.com/Dicky_sangadji Dicky sangadji

    How about installous dude???
    It was piracy??
    Hmm…someone have to explaine me about this?

    • http://twitter.com/alexjdz Alex Diaz

      Installous is piracy, yes. Because you download applications without paying for them. If you really need Installous, I recommend download i LIKE FREE from the AppStore. It kind of puts all the limited free apps in one app, which makes it easier to find limited free apps.

  • http://twitter.com/Gielk Giel Konink ✔

    i always buy if i like ;)

  • http://twitter.com/Neglefarot Neglefarot

    Wow i just dont care about him or his app…if i want one i search and look for the not blue link in cydia…i havent
    pay for an mp3 neither since….never….. and im sure a lot of singers from 5 decades and blah blah blah people of the industry are pissed too…and not to mention the 90% of the apps in my pc since windows 3.1 to the date which is about several hundreds…and a thousand movies and their industry.

    C’mon give me a break…we feel big for not buying shit of data and pixels and probably this guy filipo feels it too…i respect his effort but he should pushed an app whit apple and the app store if he wanted money and not cydia.

    This thing bugged me so i will NOT buy springtomize and i will not install a pirate version neither.

    One less pirate to worry about.

    • http://twitter.com/Byronnnn Bryan

      Idiot. App store apps are easier to pirate than Cydia apps. And all the tweaks in Cydia are not allowed in the app store.

      • http://twitter.com/Neglefarot Neglefarot

        You do know they make more money in there than cydia?…he said he wants MONEY not SYMPATHY so no im not the idiot…hes the “i want to be a millionaire from the no-warranty betas”

      • http://twitter.com/Byronnnn Bryan

        You missed the point of the article.

      • Anonymous

        A part of the profit is removed and given to Apple when an app is sold.

    • Sam Iceton

      great job asshole, now everyone your a pirate and that your an asshole.
      if your gonna be a thief, at least show some shame

      • http://twitter.com/Neglefarot Neglefarot

        You do think to much in “assholes” are you gay or something?….go preach somewhere else but check your downloads folder first…and disguisse your shame…i dont have shame on the internet.

      • Sam Iceton

        ahh the gay jokes are always a classic. you should write a book or somethin man.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YJSF534TOWOYXSHIJID4S5AEZU bigCat

    Hey kid, I gave you 2.99 so…Shut the f*ck up and get the f*ck off this site. Thanks for the tweaks though!

    • Anonymous

      Wow, really?

      You’re a single person who payed compared to an extremely large group of people who stole his tweak, and you believe you should talk like that?

  • http://twitter.com/daveamato Dave Amato

    Well, it comes down to who to blame: the cracker or the pirate.

    I personally wouldn’t blame the cracker since they are further proving that the product can be exploited; basically what that the jailbreak scene is based on. ‘Crackers’ are more-then-less keeping the developers on their toes by presenting them with issues, loopholes, or exploits with the software.

    The jailbreak community at large, contains an extremely high number of people in the 10-18 year old age group. Kids that don’t have their own money and/or credit cards, which leaves them with the option of piracy. Some respect the developers work enough not to install the copy written material, but the majority do not care. And for the most part, they have easy access to the software, via cracked repos/sources or friends just install it for them.

    I myself, am a “try it before you buy it” person. Multiple times ive experienced puchasing a peice of garbage or a non-stated incompatibiliy with Cydia apps. I really hope Suarik mandates & implements the “try before you buy” feature globally in Cydia in the near future.

    • http://www.bloise.co.uk Frankie Bloise

      me too… i mean, paying $2 for an app just to find out isnt compatible with iOS 5 is just pure b.s.

      I’ve downloaded the pirated version of springtomize as i like to try it out first before handing down my money. This one is well worth it. However snappy (the camera app), anyattach, and a few more… I paid for them a month before iOS 5 came out. None are still compatible.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mersim-Hasanbašić/1639751939 Mersim Hasanbašić

    hah i will always pirate sorry bro my pay is less than 400$ a month in my country so try to live on such a standard ;) and i study to(not english xD) ;)

    • http://twitter.com/Elf_Knight Wayne

      And yet you can afford an iDevice.

  • http://twitter.com/ic0dex ic0edx

    I did pirate apps once but not anymore. I now buy all my Jailbreak tweaks and Apps from the AppStore. Put yourself in this persons shoes and see how it will feel if some did that to you, better yet sell something on eBay and have someone claim that they never got the item. It’s a crappy feeling. Believe me it’s a lesson learned for me.

  • hellome

    Today i noticed that springtomize was already cracked and i thought “damn i could have got it for free.” this really put things into perspective. it was only 3 bucks, well spent. thanks filippo!

  • Shamus dilio

    i must be one of the oddballs around here,i have never pirated anything from the app store,but i got a boat,crew..even a cabin bout when it comes to cydia..and to be honest i wont change,my friends wont change,cydia is a black market,apple see’s not one penny from anything related to cydia,,theres no real validation to cydias workings,some things work,others do not..heck some things work after you get them and mess with it for a few hrs. if i had some assurance that i would be treated like a customer,a client ect i think i would buy things from cydia,but seeing my “tech support” take a week to reply is absured,if they reply at all.for every app,every dev…there are 10 more in the works out there,so yes it hurts them,but they hurt apple

    try jailbreaking anything and talk to someone at the apple bar,see the responce,once that funny look gets off their faces,i’ll suppost the black market,till then i’m going to snatch a grab

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Thomas-N-Shanna-Bernauer/100002948594321 Thomas N Shanna Bernauer

    U reap what u sow

    How do u think apple feels about the jailbreak

  • Kok Hean

    Wow, he’s only a year older than me…

  • http://twitter.com/purpledodi Jens Tinnerholm

    I dont really care for cydia apps. I pirate app store apps as much as i can tho. Not gonna spend more money then i have to until i switch to android in 2 months.

    • Anonymous

      Then don’t get any apps through any method.

  • Anonymous

    I’m pretty sure another user addressed this a few months ago. He posted in the comments section “most people jailbreak to pirate apps” and it caused a huge flame war and excuses like the ones listed above. It’s really sad to see guys like Filippo, a student like a lot of people here, get ripped off for his hard work.

    If you have any humane ethics, please support these small time devs.

  • http://twitter.com/micr0g micr0g

    Well.i product music but none will buy my copy,so i’ll do it for my hoby,also i don’t develop for apple that i can took money from appstore,so guys pls dont cry when you do your hoby and you want to be millionaires.!You tweak a file from apple product and not your own .app!You do it because you want to be usefull in JB community,or for your hoby like me.If you don’t then go and make your own app!I don’t like pirates but come on,we see a lot of tweaks for a lot of money!

    • http://www.facebook.com/KalaniSmith94 Kalani Smith

      Right. Like I write, but when people read it and say it’s good, I don’t go “Can I have 3 dollars for that.” If you like to do something, you should do it to better mankind, not to be rich.

  • Anonymous

    But what if you’re willing to pay but can’t, due to unavailability of Paypal and Amazon Payments in your territory? There should be method to directly pay via a credit or debit card!